Alligators seem like rather pleasant animals for being 14 foot predators and can take pretty low temperatures in stride as they used to range as far n...

Alligators seem like rather pleasant animals for being 14 foot predators and can take pretty low temperatures in stride as they used to range as far north as Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee.

Would they make effective guard animals for a moat?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably not.

    Gators are pretty chill, at least the ones bred in captivity. It’s a weird large reptile thing that the ones that are born in captivity are incredibly tame, the same things happens with Komodo dragons and other monitor lizards. Crocodiles are the exception as they’re bastards pretty much all the time.

    Gators are also smarter than most people realize, they’ve been observed setting traps in the form of bringing sticks out into lakes and waiting for birds to land on them. They also can learn their names and respond to being called. I don’t think you can train them to guard something though. As that would need you to train them for an aggressive response to a specific target which I don’t think is doable for them. If anything they would be good intimidation even if they’re just lounging around all day waiting for you to feed them.

    So I guess you could theoretically create the illusion of guard gators just by having them and demonstrating that they recognize their names.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t even know if they are good predators. Almost every alligator attack involves an 80 year old woman

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No they’re very effective in their niche, they just don’t go after things human sized or larger normally.

        But like I said, you could create an illusion of guard gators. Most people think gator=dangerous, which they are they’re wild predators with super strong jaws, but they overestimate how aggressive they are. And if you demonstrate that they respond to their names those same people would go “oh shit he’s got them trained”. Therefore the vast majority of people wouldn’t go near the area if they think there are trained guard gators there.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You could probably take advantage of their feeding behavior to use them as actual guard animals. They're most dangerous when hungry, so if you always feed them from the outside of the moat and keep multiple groups so you can rotate fed gators out so it's always hungry gators in the moat, they'd be pretty dangerous to anything that gets in that water.
          That's a big complicated schedule that would involve a lot of expert gator keepers though. More expensive and less effective than many other security solutions

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you're some eccentric billionaire I'd say it's worth maintaining an image by paying gator handlers instead of some security firm.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Gator moat strikes me as more of a "meth head with a shovel and all the time in the world to dig gator trenches" thing than an eccentric billionaire thing.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're doing the hungry gator rotation thing you're probably gonna need eccentric billionaire money instead of Billybob Joe's two tooth solution

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're ambush predators, though they can move shockingly god damn fast over short distances you wouldn't really expect a gator to chase you all across creation. But if you go for a dip in their little swimming hole and they think they can get ya, they will.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gators are also smarter than most people realize, they’ve been observed setting traps

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one ever said their prey was smart

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that slow close followed by [realization] from the bird
        That bird is too dumb to live.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          they got tiny lil brains and the gator is a carnivore

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        based Archosauria purging stupidity from the bloodline

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >signature smugness of superiority

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you're telling me the ones that say See you later are the cool chill ones, and the ones that say In a while are the ones that frick you up?

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good for guarding sailing yachts.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is a croc of shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      (you)

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, they are ambush predators
    We use dogs because they can be used offensively and defensively. Gators can just sit and wait

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No alligators are pretty docile. There’s a retention pond 30 feet from my front door and they always shy away when you get too close to them. They are dangerous to small children and the elderly

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a weird fricking Lacoste ad.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they used to range as far north as Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee.
    Source????

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.tn.gov/twra/wildlife/reptiles/alligators.html#:~:text=Occasionally%20they%20will%20feed%20on,allows%20them%20to%20continue%20breathing.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why does it look like he has shades?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's cool

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would they make effective guard animals for a moat?
    just putting a sign that warns about alligators would keep most from swimming across

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think snakes would be better. Whe. Situating my honeybees I decided to put them between the driveway and house right out front. Alotnof people are scared shitless of them even though as long as you don’t know the hives over they won’t bother you.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Alotnof people are scared shitless of them
      Yeah, I'm one of those people, butthole. Frick anything that flies and has a stinger.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're unpredictable, in the worst of ways. They'll do anything from completely ignore you, to the point of bumping into you and acting suprised. Shit themselves fleeing from you, or go full on balls to the wall attack mode. I love Gators as animals, but I recognize their brains and method of thinking are so alien to mammals in geneal.. let alone humans
    >t. Swamp anon

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      We got em down here and if you feed em meat they can get pretty playful and friendly, and if raised in captivity they are chill as pets.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah man a few almost got me at a national park circa 2014. My family got tired and was chilling by the pond while i decided to press on and follow the path between the pond and a swamp. Was looking at all the wild horses and cool shit when a big momma comes lumbering across the path. We just stared at each other and i slowly backed away. Double timed back towards the safety of the wooden ramp thing and right when i was about to go thru the gate a little one shot out outta fricking nowhere and almost got my leg. I had to jump over the fricker and zigzag the last few yards. Get back to my family shitting myself and my frickfrick cousins were throwing rocks at baby gators. If im gonna get killed by an animal i do not wanna get death rolled and drowned in some shit water. It was pretty cool looking at the big momma up close. I remember my first thought was holy shit its like looking in a dinosaurs eyes. Gators are cool though. I wanna go shoot me some on my moms lake one day. Also they are immune to aids and anthrax so go get em gays

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Crocodilians are basically cold-blooded shitbulls—even if they seem chill, it's only a matter of time before they decide not to be.

    2. Yeah, they'd probably be fine moat hazards, as long as you had a steady supply of small livestock to keep them fed, but not so fed that they weren't interested in eating intruders. A delicate balance that I doubt anybody who needs to ask is up to the task of maintaining.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not taking the wasp/bee-pill

    Gators might not eat a human. Bees and wasps WILL attack a human in their territory. If you make their territory also your territory, you have a natural guard tower.

    Also, dogs. Just use dogs, if you MUST have a moat, jellyfish are the better bet.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They can also recognize human faces as a side effect of their own facial recognition system for hive politics. Its why only certain family members get stung lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Bees and wasps WILL attack a human in their territory
      nah, they only attack you

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >moat with jellyfish
      i like it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look up Hornet King on Youtube. Hes trying to domesticate wasps and hornets and has a bunch of nests around his property.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, alligators are so friendly. I'm sure that half this thread isnt filled with them.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure you could full on train crows to not only warn you of approaching strangers, but to even effectively communicate how many and whether they're armed.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    GOT AN ALLIGATOR I AIN'T TALKING LACOSTE, UH

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Made me say, ughhh
      Like I'm mixing Master P and Rick Ross (Uh, uh)

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Salt water crocs are the only thing that might be angry enough to work. Monitor lizards are pretty food crazed but they mainly consider something they can swallow whole as something worth chasing. Overall reptiles are very lazy and minimize wasting energy.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    they like marshmallows. used to bring a bag out and toss them into the water.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just get geese. They dont afraid of anything and cant be bribed with treats like other animals. Plus their eggs are decent. And they are smart as frick and fun to play with (if they are yours and know you)

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy frick!! I can't believe that the movie producers were that stupid, to say nothing of the stunt man.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The "stuntman" is the owner of the Crocodiles, iirc.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alligators are not aggressive enough. If you leave them alone, they'll leave you alone. Just don't be a small child playing on the shorelines of a freshwater lake or river in Florida and you'll be fine.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are carnivorous reptiles, which means most of the week/month they are chilling in the sunlight to conserve energy and transient moments of extreme exertion as it bites into its prey, drag it into the water, drown and dismembers it with its death rolls.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They’re alright, but will eat your dog if they’re hungry. I used to feed them hushpuppies when I was a kid because I’m a Confederate and that’s just what you feed animals sometimes. Everybody and everything likes hushpuppies.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alligators are just everywhere all over Florida and people just pay them no mind unless if they get into your backyard pool or if they are hunting gator skins. They spend almost all their time just sitting there. That's why hunters can just walk up and dome them with a 22. I can't imagine they would have the aggression you'd want from a defensive animal.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have the linen suit, I have the Smith 3rd gen autoloader, but I need the pet gator.

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