>All the weapons Russians left behind in Ukraine.
>All the excess NATO surplus Ukraine will have after the war.
>Potential of Russia disintegrating
Tell it to me straight, /k/, how fricked-up/glorious will the illegal arms trade look like after this mess?
well considering the US is about to trade that fricker for a basketball player, probably pretty lucrative.
Exactly as fricked up as ZOG wants it to be.
>Tell it to me straight, /k/, how fricked-up/glorious will the illegal arms trade look like after this mess?
No where near as bad as the sell off in the 90's. When the Soviet Union collapsed they had tens of thousands planes, helicopters, tanks, AFV's, artillery and such. After the big sell in the early 90's a lot more was sold off over time, a lot was scrapped due to treaties or just being too obsolete and a lot has rotted beyond all repair.
So Russia is basically using everything they have left at this point for the war. When this is over they as a poor nation unable to produce replacements will hold on to everything they have to still try to project the illusion of a great military power.
On the Ukraine side I don't think they will give anything up either in fear of being caught unprepared against another attack. At least for a decade or two, eventually the economy will stabilize and they'll start replacing all their old gear as well as the stuff they captured from the Russians with new NATO equipment.
So we might see a sell off from Ukraine but it will be a while from now and very small compared to the 90's sell off. Also there might not be any big buyers, Russian gears reputation has been dragged through the mud and the gear is now heavily used.
>HOW CAN I SELL A USED TANK?
Well the first step is finding all the pieces that got asplodded off when the turret decided to compete in the turret toss competition.
I swear there was a guy who won an auction for surplus East German equipment, expecting uniforms... only to get tanks, guns and most of East Germany's army with it. Forget the name, though.
Idgaf about used bmps and jets, just waiting for the opportunity to acquire AKSU, few cans of ammo and a crate of RDGs for self defense purposes in Terraria.
Nato will impose restrictions on this stuff. Probably the surplus will permeate Russians border to arm some kind of Chechen style indipendentist movements. Russia dun goofed.
not very, they'll want to keep all their weapons for potential future attacks and whatever civilians looted will probably remain with them or sold to their goverment, BMP isn't that useful to ukranian farmer
I can see Ukraine getting a full suit of NATO kit and dumping all their old soviet shit on Belarussian separatists as a parting FRICK YOU to Russia.
Actually, there's plenty of Belarussian separatists already fighting for Ukraine. They might just steal the NATO kit and roll across the border with it when the war's wrapping up if they're trusted with any. They're absolutely holding onto any Soviet shit they get, whether Ukraine means to "donate" any or not though.
Something I don't understand is, why doesn't Pietr go to local Russian Market, buy tons of bakelite mags since they're dirt cheap in motherland, start online shop US can access, and sell them for perhaps double what he paid instead of selling them for 85+ a mag? Or, if there's some gay restriction on selling gun/mags right now to US, ship mags in pieces.
There are a number of Ukrainians doing this. I personally know a few people who took home some RPK-16 mags and sold them at a tremendous markup.
That's fine, the receiver and the barrel are some of the easiest parts to make in the US. When you hear imports you think parts kits.
>After
Its glorious right now if your israeli.
none, nearly everything used over there has a "machinegun receiver". the ATF wont even let you use the barrel, they torch cut everything.
>ATF
>illegal gun trade in Europe
what are you on about anon
Ukraine's surrounded by NATO countries on all sides so who would they be selling to
>Ukraine's surrounded by NATO countries on all sides so who would they be selling to
Very angry Belarussians.
Sell it to the US so they can gift it to the other satellite republics that are tired of Russian shit... which is all of them
Ships from Odessa can go anywhere in the world
Probably the Free Russia faction and whatever the Belarussy version is called
I'm pretty sure most of the damage was done after Iraq and Afghanistan.
The only way Ukraine would give away/sell any arms or armor would be to help facilitate some native brake-away movements in Russia. Like Chechnya.
I assume Ukraine has to return the guns after?
Why would you assume that? They're in the process of building themselves up to NATO standards and all the guns have already been payed for one way or another.
Oh, I'm sure America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol though in exchange for everything.
>America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol
man that would drive the ivans up a wall like nothing else.
And just as the Russian butthurt is peaking, Civilization7 gets released and Zelenskiy is the leader of the Slav faction (Kievan Rus)
Thanks I guess for the base Ukraine, we'll put it with our two dozen other naval bases around world.
>America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol
If that happens I'll laugh so fricking hard I'll shit my pants.
They can return the lend/lease shit to get the debts forgiven. A deal will probably be struck where they don't have to though.
Post yfw NATO weaponry sent to Ukraine and Russian soldiers selling their equipment to milsurp LARPers for a dose of krokodil wind up getting resold to fight the Second American civil war in a few years
gtfo spastic
Hicks not welcome on /k/
>Hicks not welcome on /k/
>one of the demographics most likely to own firearms isn't welcome on /k/
Ukraine & Russia is a war between 2 organized state militaries, not an anarchic warlrod clusterfrick like the Middle East. So unlikely.
There's a weird possible scenario where the Ukrainian military splinters back into the militias used to form it after the war's over and everyone runs off with their shit and refuses to follow orders to return it because they know how much it's worth.
Depends on the relative power dynamics between the Ukrainian military and people that were recruited for the war and through the national guard/local defense forces and the units comprised of former militias though.
Would genuinely not be the first time something like that's happened in world history. Disloyal regional forces running off with the loot/war chest like a stock war clusterfrick.
That said, I don't view this outcome as particularly likely. The entire reason Ukraine nationalized the militias is to drill the disloyalty frickwittery out of them. They also reorganized a lot of the units they formed so the units weren't 1:1 just the militias rebranded so they'd be less likely to pull shit.
Honestly Ukraine has been really on the ball about not walking into ridiculously obvious historical traps. They're like the anti-Russia.
>into the militias used to form it
That was like 2 units though. You make it sound like the Ukrainian president brought to heel numerous bands of Nazis errant roaming the Ukrainian steppe and made them acknowledge him as the one true Khan.
I love this picture. It just makes Russian failures even more hilarious.
>That was like 2 units though
It was fricking 37 and that's basically exactly what he did.
He's living my dream
Sniffing feet or embarrassing Putin militarily on the world stage?
both
>a israelite herding and uniting roaming Neo Nazi Banderites in the Ukrainian steppes into a united fighting force against R*ssians
Tengri-willing, the Blue-and-Golden Horde shall buck-breaking the R*ssoids once more
Ironically Nic's character was based on a Ukrainian arms dealer.
>how fricked-up/glorious will the illegal arms trade look like after this mess?
How dense will be border protection and control after this mess?
very dense.