>All the weapons Russians left behind in Ukraine. >All the excess NATO surplus Ukraine will have after the war.

>All the weapons Russians left behind in Ukraine.
>All the excess NATO surplus Ukraine will have after the war.
>Potential of Russia disintegrating
Tell it to me straight, /k/, how fricked-up/glorious will the illegal arms trade look like after this mess?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    well considering the US is about to trade that fricker for a basketball player, probably pretty lucrative.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Exactly as fricked up as ZOG wants it to be.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Tell it to me straight, /k/, how fricked-up/glorious will the illegal arms trade look like after this mess?
    No where near as bad as the sell off in the 90's. When the Soviet Union collapsed they had tens of thousands planes, helicopters, tanks, AFV's, artillery and such. After the big sell in the early 90's a lot more was sold off over time, a lot was scrapped due to treaties or just being too obsolete and a lot has rotted beyond all repair.
    So Russia is basically using everything they have left at this point for the war. When this is over they as a poor nation unable to produce replacements will hold on to everything they have to still try to project the illusion of a great military power.
    On the Ukraine side I don't think they will give anything up either in fear of being caught unprepared against another attack. At least for a decade or two, eventually the economy will stabilize and they'll start replacing all their old gear as well as the stuff they captured from the Russians with new NATO equipment.
    So we might see a sell off from Ukraine but it will be a while from now and very small compared to the 90's sell off. Also there might not be any big buyers, Russian gears reputation has been dragged through the mud and the gear is now heavily used.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >HOW CAN I SELL A USED TANK?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well the first step is finding all the pieces that got asplodded off when the turret decided to compete in the turret toss competition.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I swear there was a guy who won an auction for surplus East German equipment, expecting uniforms... only to get tanks, guns and most of East Germany's army with it. Forget the name, though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Idgaf about used bmps and jets, just waiting for the opportunity to acquire AKSU, few cans of ammo and a crate of RDGs for self defense purposes in Terraria.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nato will impose restrictions on this stuff. Probably the surplus will permeate Russians border to arm some kind of Chechen style indipendentist movements. Russia dun goofed.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not very, they'll want to keep all their weapons for potential future attacks and whatever civilians looted will probably remain with them or sold to their goverment, BMP isn't that useful to ukranian farmer

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can see Ukraine getting a full suit of NATO kit and dumping all their old soviet shit on Belarussian separatists as a parting FRICK YOU to Russia.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actually, there's plenty of Belarussian separatists already fighting for Ukraine. They might just steal the NATO kit and roll across the border with it when the war's wrapping up if they're trusted with any. They're absolutely holding onto any Soviet shit they get, whether Ukraine means to "donate" any or not though.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Something I don't understand is, why doesn't Pietr go to local Russian Market, buy tons of bakelite mags since they're dirt cheap in motherland, start online shop US can access, and sell them for perhaps double what he paid instead of selling them for 85+ a mag? Or, if there's some gay restriction on selling gun/mags right now to US, ship mags in pieces.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There are a number of Ukrainians doing this. I personally know a few people who took home some RPK-16 mags and sold them at a tremendous markup.

      none, nearly everything used over there has a "machinegun receiver". the ATF wont even let you use the barrel, they torch cut everything.

      That's fine, the receiver and the barrel are some of the easiest parts to make in the US. When you hear imports you think parts kits.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >After
    Its glorious right now if your israeli.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    none, nearly everything used over there has a "machinegun receiver". the ATF wont even let you use the barrel, they torch cut everything.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >ATF
      >illegal gun trade in Europe
      what are you on about anon

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine's surrounded by NATO countries on all sides so who would they be selling to

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine's surrounded by NATO countries on all sides so who would they be selling to
      Very angry Belarussians.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sell it to the US so they can gift it to the other satellite republics that are tired of Russian shit... which is all of them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ships from Odessa can go anywhere in the world

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the Free Russia faction and whatever the Belarussy version is called

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure most of the damage was done after Iraq and Afghanistan.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The only way Ukraine would give away/sell any arms or armor would be to help facilitate some native brake-away movements in Russia. Like Chechnya.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I assume Ukraine has to return the guns after?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you assume that? They're in the process of building themselves up to NATO standards and all the guns have already been payed for one way or another.

      Oh, I'm sure America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol though in exchange for everything.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol
        man that would drive the ivans up a wall like nothing else.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          And just as the Russian butthurt is peaking, Civilization7 gets released and Zelenskiy is the leader of the Slav faction (Kievan Rus)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol
        man that would drive the ivans up a wall like nothing else.

        Thanks I guess for the base Ukraine, we'll put it with our two dozen other naval bases around world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >America will get a 100 year lease for a naval base in Sevastopol
        If that happens I'll laugh so fricking hard I'll shit my pants.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They can return the lend/lease shit to get the debts forgiven. A deal will probably be struck where they don't have to though.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Post yfw NATO weaponry sent to Ukraine and Russian soldiers selling their equipment to milsurp LARPers for a dose of krokodil wind up getting resold to fight the Second American civil war in a few years

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      gtfo spastic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hicks not welcome on /k/

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Hicks not welcome on /k/
        >one of the demographics most likely to own firearms isn't welcome on /k/

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

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  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine & Russia is a war between 2 organized state militaries, not an anarchic warlrod clusterfrick like the Middle East. So unlikely.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There's a weird possible scenario where the Ukrainian military splinters back into the militias used to form it after the war's over and everyone runs off with their shit and refuses to follow orders to return it because they know how much it's worth.

      Depends on the relative power dynamics between the Ukrainian military and people that were recruited for the war and through the national guard/local defense forces and the units comprised of former militias though.

      Would genuinely not be the first time something like that's happened in world history. Disloyal regional forces running off with the loot/war chest like a stock war clusterfrick.

      That said, I don't view this outcome as particularly likely. The entire reason Ukraine nationalized the militias is to drill the disloyalty frickwittery out of them. They also reorganized a lot of the units they formed so the units weren't 1:1 just the militias rebranded so they'd be less likely to pull shit.

      Honestly Ukraine has been really on the ball about not walking into ridiculously obvious historical traps. They're like the anti-Russia.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >into the militias used to form it
        That was like 2 units though. You make it sound like the Ukrainian president brought to heel numerous bands of Nazis errant roaming the Ukrainian steppe and made them acknowledge him as the one true Khan.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I love this picture. It just makes Russian failures even more hilarious.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >That was like 2 units though
          It was fricking 37 and that's basically exactly what he did.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He's living my dream

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Sniffing feet or embarrassing Putin militarily on the world stage?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              both

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >That was like 2 units though
          It was fricking 37 and that's basically exactly what he did.

          >a israelite herding and uniting roaming Neo Nazi Banderites in the Ukrainian steppes into a united fighting force against R*ssians
          Tengri-willing, the Blue-and-Golden Horde shall buck-breaking the R*ssoids once more

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically Nic's character was based on a Ukrainian arms dealer.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >how fricked-up/glorious will the illegal arms trade look like after this mess?
    How dense will be border protection and control after this mess?
    very dense.

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