>all the local fun stores are really low or completely sold out of suppressors

>all the local fun stores are really low or completely sold out of suppressors

What gives?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lots of people falling for the suppressor meme

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Masterful bait, let's see who replies

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's not bait, pistol suppressors are cool but that's it, there's no good holster options, adds weight, kinda pointless.

        Rifle suppressors too gassy, normies will buy these suppressors then never use them after they realize the headache it is to clean your shit after using them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It is bait, because you have no cans, you know nothing about them, but you're spouting a bunch of complete bullshit about them with great confidence. Since you're the same homosexual who does this every suppressor thread and it's been patiently explained to you before, we know you're just baiting at this point. Assuming you even own guns, maybe you're just seething because you're a felon or something.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nta, but we all know carrying with a can is the meta with the NFA crowd since its superior, right anon? I mean most of the hasguns on this this board at least, right? It's not like this is an incrediblely niche thing in practical usage right?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >meta
              >nfa crowd
              Can you try this again, in english? What the frick are you talking about? What does anything you wrote have to do with the bullshit about "too gassy" or "headache to clean" or "kinda pointless".

              If we all bought suppressors the “raid me” list would be pointless since it would be too long to actually raid

              Also the only way they're not hypocrites on that is if they never buy new guns either, since then you still go right to the federal government for that too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nta means not that anon, whatever they were saying about suppressor gas or cleaning are not my words. I like seeing the suppressor shills seethe because they know pistols on suppressors are not practical for owb carry, but they have to market them because companies are paying them to do so.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *suppressors on pistols

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah bro da joos are forcing people to carry suppressed pistols for marketing and it's not because we can

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >are not practical for owb carry
                >owb
                You don't own guns at all do you anon?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Duh, it's possible to carry with a suppressor owb. I'm referring to concealed carry owb with a suppressor. The fact that you immediately jumped to open carry (I'm assuming) as a practical option says more about you frankly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >concealed
                >outside the wasteband
                >not inside
                yeah

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >anon think it's practical to conceal carry with a suppressor iwb
                yea

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            do you own a can company or something? kek
            he's not wrong, a bunch of artards are not going to have a good time realizing ars are shit guns, and their personal arsenals are full of them

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ars are shit guns

              Good bait, too bad you can't fool me

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >opinions different to mine are bait
                Eat shit and die, Black person.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >since they're my "opinions" I'm immune from criticism and people pointing out I'm wrong and moronic!
                go back

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My homie you are just making shit up. I point out that you're a gay and you try to step up saying some bullshit about criticism.
                So I'll clear it up for you, having different opinions is not bait, having contrarian opinions even is not bait. Now having different opinions doesn't mean you can't criticize or even just make fun of them, talk all the shit you want. I am simply calling (You) a moron because you instantly call any opinion that goes against the grain "bait".
                This is almost exclusively a /k/ thing as well, as for why that is I can't say but you don't see this dumb ass shit anywhere else.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                None of that stupid fricking shit changes you being a fricking wrong moron. Fact remains you said that "ARs are shit guns" and that is wrong and moronic and I say that as someone who literally owns zero ARs anymore since I prefer bullpups. But I've had them and shot plenty, and their performance, popularity, value/$, market options etc are absolutely utterly objective fact. If your gay ass noguns "opinions" are at odds with objective fact your opinions are wrong. Sorry that's reality.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Chill out, you sound like a 14 year old.
                I'm not even that anon, you again are making shit up. I'm not even going to get into a b***hing match about the AR. It's the cheapest option for an autoloading rifle for most people and it's fine. Again not even the original point, I simply stated that an opinion on a rifle is not bait and you are flipping shit over that. Go relax and maybe stay off the chan for a while buddy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >adds weight

          That's actually part of the reason I want to buy one. I fired a friend's 92fs with a can on the front and the balance was unreal. Now I'm jonesing for a suppressor of my own

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/OD0Q7eo.jpeg

              Which can is that?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                rugged obsidian

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Shit. It's on backorder even on their website

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not my problem, I got mine two years ago (and had to wait 10 months)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bereli had them for 550

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >too gassy
          >NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN BACKPRESUSSY HOW WILL MY BOLT ACTION RIFLE SURVIVE?!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Speak for yourself moron, I tuned my gas system and this thing runs 1000x softer than a factory Aug. don’t buy steyr’s silencer gas plug by the way it’s a piece of shit, I made this one myself with an adjustable gas dial

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How's the trigger on that pos?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Bad, but that’s a skill issue. You get used to it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah just another reason to go shoot more

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              nta but there are trigger/bar kits for it that make it significantly better, same as x95 or other military ones that have typical mushy military grade triggers. but military triggers do, like, work.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t plan on upgrading mine, as far as I’m aware the drop safety on an Aug relies on the weight of the sear spring. All of the trigger upgrades for the Aug reduce that weight, and the gun’s manual safety only serves to prevent the transfer bar from activating the FCG. I’m pretty sure most Aug trigger upgrades seriously reduce the gun’s drop safety for that reason
                I also have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the Aug trigger. I went in expecting it to he horrible but it was honestly not that bad. I think people are just babies

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I also have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the Aug trigger. I went in expecting it to he horrible but it was honestly not that bad. I think people are just babies
                don't disagree with you, like I said all these military triggers are in fact literally used by literal militaries in literal war. of course they fricking work if you train with them. if somehow they made all shots be 40moa and took minutes of straining to pull they wouldn't be used! they're fine for typical <200yd work. match grade stuff is fun for sure and if you are elr or even just really shooting for accuracy at 500+yd yeah why not but the standards have gotten slightly crazy. on a civvie gun all else being equal with other safeties absolutely not reason not to want a good trigger. but silly to deny yourself cool military guns just because they aren't identical to your ar.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ATF made it waaaay easier and quicker to get NFA forms approved. If they're sent in digitally and contain no errors or weird complications they get done within a week or two.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's their endgame? This is a data collection effort isn't it. I don't trust the ATF

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Their endgame is not getting buttfricked by Congress since they were told to improve NFA processing times and didn't make any progress with that for years until the e-filing system was actually ready.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Of course it is. They finally figured out that it is actually in the Agency's best interest to process as many forms as possible. Its the only way for them to legally build a registry of gun owners and gun owners have been flocking to put themselves on the list.

        Before 2014, a trust got around LEO sign-off requirements for individuals.

        Now you just have to "notify" the CLEO. People who qualify as the CLEO are:
        >the local chief of police,
        >sheriff of the county,
        >head of the state police,
        >state or local district attorney or prosecutor
        >state attorneys general
        >judges of state courts having authority to conduct jury trials in felony cases.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a whole bunch, sorry

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    people be subpilled silencemaxxing

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What gives?
    Well sonny, after me and all my Nationwide Boomer friends bought up all the milsurp to piss off (you) whipper-snappers, zoomers, coomers et al. We decided to buy up all the suppressors. When the price is right we will sell back to you, because we know what we've got. inb4 stfu Boomer.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>all the local fun stores are really low or completely sold out of suppressors
    >What gives?
    Previous wait times: 200-400 days
    New wait times: 2-14 days

    Simple as.
    (worth noting that's individual, trusts have lagged behind and still take 60-120 days, far better then before but not the radical improvement individual has had. can bypass that with money, give up on it, or wait as always)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >now you wait 6 months for the can to ship to your ffl instead
      whee

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bereli and Blackhawk Armory took less than 5 days from purchase to shipping, the Form 3 approval is the bottleneck.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>all the local fun stores are really low or completely sold out of suppressors
          >What gives?
          Previous wait times: 200-400 days
          New wait times: 2-14 days

          Simple as.
          (worth noting that's individual, trusts have lagged behind and still take 60-120 days, far better then before but not the radical improvement individual has had. can bypass that with money, give up on it, or wait as always)

          90% of people are using a trust, the individual wait times are gonna skyrocket with all the normies buying them now. ATF does this every few years to decrease the average wait times so congress approves more funding. Oldgays know this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one has used a trust since Obama made them gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don't think it's about F3 and shipping (well, that can be a complaint but minor right now) vs what OP was talking about which is having shit in stock. If you just want "a" can, like, any can, yeah you can find stuff fine. If you want a specific one you've researched though it's more of a crapshoot, manufacturing hasn't caught up yet, and/or demand hasn't peaked.

          isn't a trust better than an individual for legal reasons?

          Trust is better in terms of flexibility with compliant usage/storage. Like if you need to go somewhere and want to leave your NFA stuff with somebody else like family or a close friend, or you want your wife/kids to be able to have/use it and have no immediate issues if you die. Technically all that is legally hard as an individual, whereas with a trust it's easy. And trusts don't cost anything extra.

          But I use "technically" because I dunno if anyone has ever had a specific problem with it, though it's possible it's been an extra for something already an issue. I think it's a good idea myself, but you can always transfer from yourself to a trust later for another $200. For a first can it's not critical.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >trusts don't cost anything extra

            What

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              don't cost anything extra
              >What
              ?
              It's $200 for a stamp no matter what the entity is. It's the same cost whether you register it to a trust or yourself. If you don't find a free one online or take advantage of a sale then yeah getting the trust documents made for you will cost like $50, but that's a one time thing.

              https://i.imgur.com/18GAspC.jpeg

              >willingly putting yourself on a PLEASE FRICKING RAID ME list for the federal government

              lmfao

              It's hilarious how you tourists keep pushing this meme lol.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw set up a trust for my first can
            Approaching a month since submitting the eForm 4 in a few days. Do I call the NFA line on Friday or wait another month?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still don't understand how any of this shit works

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    isn't a trust better than an individual for legal reasons?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't trust you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't have a trust and don't add anyone you want using your shit as a responsible person, this means you are the sole owner of the item, you can't have people around your stuff using it without your permission, you have to keep it locked and away from anyone not added, plus when you want to transfer them to someone eventually that person would have to pay the 200 dollars for every single item.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine believing this
        I mean I know it's cucked to register your cans in the first place, but trustcucks took it to a whole other level

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sorry I don't listen to people who use buzzwords in normal conversation

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I accept your concession

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all my sups are walking away
    getting tired of screwing them after one mag, teflon to the rescue i guess

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      use rocksett or get a proper mounting system

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is getting suppressors since ATF registration is somehow working efficiently so you can get approved within a week now.
    The only I'll register is my dick. I am not giving $200,and I don't even have gats to put a suppressor on because I am a NEET poorgay but yeah, people with money are buying them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >and I don't even have gats to put a suppressor on
      thanks for admitting you're a noguns at least unlike the gay below you

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >willingly putting yourself on a PLEASE FRICKING RAID ME list for the federal government

    lmfao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If we all bought suppressors the “raid me” list would be pointless since it would be too long to actually raid

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's at that point already. 2.6 million suppressor owners in the USA according to google. If they ban them completely it will be like the bump stock or the pistol brace ordeal. They will issue their rulings and possibly send out letters saying you have to destroy it or turn it in. If you decide to ignore their rules, its likely that nothing will happen. If you post it online or use it in a public place or something dumb like that, you are obviously just begging for it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >If they ban them completely it will be like the bump stock or the pistol brace ordeal.
          The difference is that your name is on a list as owning it, rather than bump stocks and braces where it would take some research with vendors and credit card companies to determine if you probably own one. Nothing would happen to 99.9% of people but then when somebody specifically needs to be in jail they don't even have to plant cp on the computer, that person is already on the felony list, just go make the arrest and find the items. Unenforced laws are the worst kind, because at any time they can decide to enforce them ON YOU and "why don't you enforce them on anyone else" is somehow not a valid defense although it should be.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The difference is that your name is on a list as owning it
            Your name is on a list then for every single normal gun purchase. They all go right back to the feds. Most people buy them with credit cards as well, so make that a pile of lists both public and private.

            You fricking schizos never actually think anything through. Having stuff be out and proud is how to keep it protected. The bigger the better. If your default assumption is the government will just ignore all law (contrary to all proof to the contrary) then take that to its logical conclusion, and it's still better to have more people.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Tried to tell an old coworker about the "qualified professional" discounts that some online retailers provide and he hit me with the "UH YOU GOTTA BE ON A LIST FOR SUUUURE, I LIKE TO BUY MY STUFF ON THE DOWNLOW"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                These same people use credit cards to buy ammo and have filled out at least one 4473(which have to be retained for 10 years in paper, and probably indefinitely for the new e-form). Your best interest is having so many fricking people that it becomes a nightmare to try and do anything.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The ATF has been using a loophole to digitize the 4473s for a few years now.

                They have been sending agents into active FFLs and they are taking photographs of every page,

                Also, when the FFL gives up their license they are required to send in their 4473 directly to the ATF who currently have interns scanning them all into a database.

                IIRC how they are getting around this is they paid CISCO to remove the search function on the database as by law it can't be "searchable"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                sure they have

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well, I got 3 and an SBR and I'm gonna go for an AOW so I can further meme my Deagle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The ATF doesn't need to raid the full list, they just have to shoot a couple of people in the head every now and then and the rest will fall in line.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shoot enough people and the next guy on the list is ready for them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it also works the same in reverse.

          who wants to get shot in the face for 40k a year?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Being surprised by this while posting on the board that sucks fed wiener without shame

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you're pressed about this you have a main stash and then you have a backup stash of 80% that you put somewhere that isn't your property. Or you go big mode and get remembered as a hero by the gun community

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God i wish /k/ had thread ids

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn't know what a gun trust is
      We get it you're poor no need to advertise it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you own a gun at all, you're on the purge list (I'm aware this is most americans, glowies don't care and will take any excuse they can to spill blood). If you post on this website you're on the double or triple kill list.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is such a weird cope because the NFA registry is literally a list with your name and address in a database at the federal government while the "post on PrepHole" list and the "probably owns a gun" list are gangstalker schizoid ramblings.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/T198VIF.gif

      >state law bans suppressors outright

      Your local hardware store in all 50 states has suppressors with no government registry. What are they going to do, hear it?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the largest detraction from getting a suppressor (the previously 8 to 14 months wait) has mostly ended, therefore more people are willing to buy cans. I'm glad I got mine before this because everything I wanted is now out of stock and probably will be for quite a while. the wait was mega extremely gay, though.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m convinced these moronic takes on suppressor ownership and the turd worlder noguns trolls that have decided to camp out this board overlap 100%

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I’m convinced these moronic takes on suppressor ownership and the turd worlder noguns trolls that have decided to camp out this board overlap 100%
      Not unreasonable, though the cope and seethe from nocans americans used to be real sometimes too. Though now that the wait is so short and the stamp keeps effectively getting cheaper wouldn't be surprised if the percentage is shifting towards the trolls.

      Have noticed an increase in them always repeating the exact same talking points, and they never, ever post guns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Have noticed an increase in them always repeating the exact same talking points, and they never, ever post guns.
        To be fair, the sort of person who might reasonably be worried about having their name on a fed-can-killlist might be the same sort of person who doesn't want to post their guns online to avoid data mining bait

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Before 2014, a trust got around LEO sign-off requirements for individuals.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really give a shit

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >anons who think you can't iwb carry a suppressor outing themselves as small pp havers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a grower, not a shower.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anons, reply if you or someone you know, concealed carries a handgun with a suppressor IWB everyday. Even if it's a wipe suppressor, I'm genuinely curious if all the shills in the board are speaking from experience.

      Every time a thread like this gets posted, you see these anons and it's always
      >but for home defense...
      and then you just ignore them, but there's also the anons who say they're good for carry. When you dig deeper, it's always owb and there's some big caveat like 'I carry a maxim 9' (out of production) or 'when I'm innawoods'. By then, the goalposts have moved so far beyond the status quo in terms of practicality.
      >inb4 it's possible, it's possible
      That was never the argument

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So the silencer shop "single shot trust" ones aren't going through as fast? I was thinking about picking up something shorter and HUB compatible so I can direct mount onto a 300blk and leave it...

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i still find it funny that as an European I can walk into a gun store and walk out with a suppressor.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's funny too. Funny in a tragic way, that is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a certain irony in me owning an imported used threaded .22 rifle from the UK. I'm more free than they are as I can go to a gun store and just buy it no questions asked other than a 4473 and background check and buy as many as I want no loicenses. I can buy and sell .22s privately with nothing more than cash and a thank you if I wanted to as well. Shit I could pile a room full of them like those stacks of rifles in Ethiopia if I really wanted to burn money. Meanwhile they (in the UK) can only have so many guns on a loicense IIRC. While they have to put their silencers on their loicense and it takes up a slot, it's in and out almost exactly like like we buy guns here in the US. Meanwhile I had to wait over 200 days for my silencer for that rifle lol. Topsy turvy.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like guns as loud as possible

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Which 9mm handguns make for the best supressor hosts?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hi-Point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Which 9mm handguns make for the best supressor hosts?
      Unlike with rifles there isn't really any difference in practice. In theory a fixed barrel could make for a cool host since there'd be no need for a booster. In practice not many exist, or have ever existed for that matter. Steyer GP, HK P7 would be examples. In current production there is the walther CCP, though I've heard that's a very weird one, or of course the laugo alien, which is a comp gun and stupendously fricking expensive. In recent history there was the Maxim 9, but that of course was an integral suppressor anyway. Sadly the non-NFA version poofed out of existence for some reason, that would have been a fantastic host based on early reviews.

      Boosters work fine though so just don't worry about it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for this answer. The Maxim 9 looked so cool. Do you have any idea why SilencerCo stopped producing them?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Yukari

          they never sold remotely as many guns as they needed to. As much as morons on this board like to claim no one actually likes Glock clones, that's 90% of the gun market share right there.
          People had five+ years to buy one and going by the serial number on mine I doubt they ever broke 10,000 units.
          Same deal with the Maxim 50. Innovation unappreciated.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Yukari

            oh actually

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also thanks for the link. Though in that case damn, 5000 units is at least way above my ultra pessimistic guess. My LGS must have been really sitting on this gun for fricking ages to have a serial # that low, I assumed since I got it in 2021 that it was later in what they were doing. Makes more sense now he was eager to take 1/3 off the price to move the thing. Though wonder if he regrets it now that he could probably get 2-3x the price instead lol.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Robocop called, he wants his gun back

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well he can't have it, he can frick right off. He doesn't even have ears anyway he has microphones that can be replaced why does he even need suppression?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Maxim 50 was cool too but there's niche and then there is really, REALLY fricking niche. That I'm not surprised about, I think the Maxim 50 was a real passion project they took a flyer on, doing something nobody else was, and it's not any real surprise.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Yukari

              I concur.

              Also thanks for the link. Though in that case damn, 5000 units is at least way above my ultra pessimistic guess. My LGS must have been really sitting on this gun for fricking ages to have a serial # that low, I assumed since I got it in 2021 that it was later in what they were doing. Makes more sense now he was eager to take 1/3 off the price to move the thing. Though wonder if he regrets it now that he could probably get 2-3x the price instead lol.

              I bought mine in late 2019 and got a low 4000s serial. They really did not move any guns in 2019 or 2020.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Maxim 9 looked so cool.
          I own one, and I love it even though unfortunate the greatly improved 3rd gen trigger they were developing never made it to shipping. Still though fantastic balance, soft shooting, pretty cool to have the optic not move, great suppression, and it's also actually "short" for a full size hg + can.
          >Do you have any idea why SilencerCo stopped producing them?
          The NFA and long Form 4 wait times really discouraged integrals I'm afraid, particularly back before eforms. It's easy to forget how quickly things have changed. When I got my maxim in 2021 it was pure paper, had to fill it all out by hand 3x, go the pharmacy for a passport photo, police department for finger prints on ink, mail all copies, then wait "only" 7 months which was actually luckily fast at the time (got worse shortly thereafter).

          Given that bullshit, the vast majority of people, very reasonably, wanted something modular so that they can move it to whatever guns they want thereafter. Integral offers a few real advantages, but it's a niche. As a result, the Maxim 9 clearly didn't sell that much. My serial # is only in the 400 series. Seems near certain to me it had <1000 lifetime sales, maybe less then that. They were heavily discounted at the end, you could get one for <$900 (I got mine for $1k, list was $1.5k). In retrospect I wish I'd gotten two more, so it goes.

          It's too bad. I think if it was still on sale in this new era of it all being digital and automated and taking <1 week it'd do significantly better. In business though sometimes timing is everything. As far as the non-NFA version I have no fricking idea. That got almost to completion, a lot of people were super interested, and there is very little in the way of direct competition at under 1k. But that was in the middle of the pandemic craziness, my guess is something happened internally and the project fell off the tracks. Like shit, for all I know some key person literally died or something.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah dang. Good info, thank you! Maybe one day SiCo will revisit this idea. Business must be booming for them now, and maybe this will get resurrected. I bet you have a lot of fun shooting that. I'm sure people at the range always ask of they can try it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Maybe one day SiCo will revisit this idea.
              I actually wrote them about it earlier this year. Their customer support rep claimed to me that they did plan another run. I have no idea if that will actually come to pass or they were talking out of their ass, timeline, pricing, or anything, but fwiw I did get direct word in email from the horse's mouth or at least its butt.
              >Business must be booming for them now, and maybe this will get resurrected.
              Precisely because business is booming it's mixed? At least short term. They're struggling to keep stuff in stock and ramp up production of what they've already got. Dunno if they have the bandwidth to also relaunch something more complex. On the other hand maybe they'll see an opportunity to seize before anyone else, and in the medium term demand won't stay like this forever. Massive pent up demand from people who always wanted a can but didn't want to wait 300 fricking days. It'll die back down though towards normal (albeit a higher level normal) eventually at which point they'll need new products.
              >I bet you have a lot of fun shooting that. I'm sure people at the range always ask of they can try it.
              I do, it's also my EDC woods/farm gun. Which is part of my extra bummer with the discontinuation and skyrocketing price after, I absolutely did not buy it to be a collector gun I bought it to use, and before if it broke could replace it. So kinda sucks in that regard. And yeah plenty of "what the hell is that" lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I did get direct word in email from the horse's mouth or at least its butt
                Baste.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      92 series since the barrel doesn’t tilt, the weight on the barrel still matters. I run mine with a booster since it came with one but I’ve seen suppressed 92s without boosters where they use lighter recoil springs ~11-12 pounds vs the stock 14.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Which one should I get for my FNX45T?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of style are you going for?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm okay with a massive one, since the pistol is for HD. I recall seeing a blocky one... osprey or something? But I'm okay with something that is more durable and
        quieter

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This one?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah! That one. Some people said the rugged 45 is better though. And I saw some weird b&t impulse or something.

            [...]
            I have no idea about whether anyone has done any comprehensive (or at least pretty wide ranging) objective testing for 45 suppression. That said durability isn't much of a concern with 45 subs. So I'd probably go by other features, and pay attention to warranties.

            Honestly, the [...] Osprey remains a pretty good looking choice, even if you compare it to fancier newer stuff like from huxwrx or whatever. The decibel ratings are still pretty decent. It's still not that heavy for a 45 can either. I would not call their warranty process great but it's not terrible, and the coverage itself is fine.

            Good point anon, thanks.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I haven't heard much about it but if you're going for that Metal Gear/Splinter Cell aesthetic, then that's definitely the suppressor for you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm okay with a massive one, since the pistol is for HD. I recall seeing a blocky one... osprey or something? But I'm okay with something that is more durable and
      quieter

      I have no idea about whether anyone has done any comprehensive (or at least pretty wide ranging) objective testing for 45 suppression. That said durability isn't much of a concern with 45 subs. So I'd probably go by other features, and pay attention to warranties.

      Honestly, the

      https://i.imgur.com/zi8DrZm.jpeg

      This one?

      Osprey remains a pretty good looking choice, even if you compare it to fancier newer stuff like from huxwrx or whatever. The decibel ratings are still pretty decent. It's still not that heavy for a 45 can either. I would not call their warranty process great but it's not terrible, and the coverage itself is fine.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ong you guys I think an ATF scanner just flew over my apartment!

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Likelihood of cans being removed from NFA due to texas lawsuit?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Zero.None. Zilch.Nada.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doubt. Sad truth is that while cans deserve to be removed the most as they don't even have anything inherent to do with deadliness or whatever, they're just PPE, for that very reason gov probably has the strongest argument that they're not protected by the 2A at all anymore then optics would be. They're not weapons. Though it'd be an interesting argument if someone sued specifically over an integral design.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Haven’t several lawsuits successfully argued that accessories are covered by the 2A?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Haven’t several lawsuits successfully argued that accessories are covered by the 2A?
          Do you have links? Unironically, if so I'd be enthused, but the details really matter in law. An "accessory" like a magazine is integral to the basic function of the weapon and usage. I'm a lot more doubtful that the court would be equally expansive on, say, lights. I can't really see the government actually ever bothering to regulate lights either beyond generic anti-fraud, like what even would there be to do? But if they did (like maybe if they banned incandescents early, not that everyone didn't rush to LEDs as fast as possible anyway for the enormously superior lighting and battery life) dunno how courts would fall on that one, and I genuinely do not know of any cases about it because I also don't know of the government actually doing that, except for suppressors themselves (which of course the courts have found for almost 90 years is a-ok).

          Anyway not to be a doomergay or anything, if it works awesome, but I'm not feeling any optimism either. And from the actual for-real lawyers I follow the general feel has been that SCOTUS doesn't seem to have any majority in favor of touching the NFA despite Bruen, that they're not going to legalize MGs let alone heavier weapons. I can see suppressor arguments going both ways, but while I think suppressor regulation would fail strict scrutiny I have no idea what it does under the weird historical standard or if it does anything at all.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not something they actively want to do, but if a case challenging the NFA came before them I think they’d probably overturn at least some parts of it. They’re not Second Amendment activists, unfortunately, they just look at things through a lens of basic fricking common sense and rule logically as opposed to sketchy lower level judges who look at 2A stuff however Bloomberg pays them to

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the deal with titanium suppressors? How do they hold up to steel ones?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's the deal with titanium suppressors? How do they hold up to steel ones?
      The three main suppressor materials are steel, titanium, and inconel. Steel is dirt cheap and plenty durable, but heavier. Titanium is expensive (it's hard to work with), but technically the lightest and can be made that way (more on this asterisk in a second), but it handles heat the worst and thus heavier duty of fire, in general you must keep a ti can below 700 degrees. Inconel is extremely durable, still more expensive since it too is harder to work with. It's heavier then ti, but because it's so much more durable in practice many designs don't have as much difference as raw density would suggest because you can use less material. Flow through is another wrinkle, less dwell means less heat into the can which makes ti hold up somewhat better. Titanium also fundamentally sparks more then the others, it reduces a lot after breaking in but it will always be there.

      So in general:
      - Steel is great for solid range cans, beaters, just general usage. There's nothing wrong with it. I've got steel cans.
      - Titanium is great for bolt guns going innawoods like hunting trips. Every oz matters, obviously you're not ever going to mag dump there.
      - Inconel is just a great material in general, if you want to spend the $$$ on higher end stuff.

      I'd call titanium the most specialized choice, steel the default, and inconel the upgrade default.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you for the information anon. So Inconel would be the best bet. Any good brands that use this? I was thinking of getting one in 300 and one in 45

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually picking a can gets into more factors then just the material. Handguns you don't really have to worry about because they have such low pressure, frankly it's not hard to do well there and whatever works. For 45, anons asked earlier in the thread and I stand by the Osprey being a decent one to look at. It's steel and aluminum (which meant to address but I forgot to mention since you don't see it on rifle cans at all), but 45 has a max SAAMI of only 21k psi and almost all the ammo is subsonic. It's easy to handle. The Osprey is also cool in that it's a rare asymmetric design, which means on a handgun you do not need suppressor height irons (or a riser for certain optics).

          For 300 do you mean 300bo only or a 30cal can in general? Certain 9mm handgun cans are rated for 300bo only, and that'd be the shortest and lightest, but personally I think getting a quality 30cal rifle can is worth it in that case because it'll suppress better and give way more flexibility (30cal is a solid bullet, and a quality 30cal can will be great on everything from 300bo to 308 to 300 winmag, or 6.5 or 7mm or .284). You also have to consider the platform you're running it on. Cans restrict gas flow by nature, so they generate back pressure over a bare gun. Particularly classic designs can have a lot. With a manual action this is irrelevant, but for semi a high bp can will need an adjustable gas system and still result in more potential for puffs into your face (plus somewhat more wear, you're running the gun harder). On the other hand they have better suppression. Relatively new are "flow through" designs, which use complex 3d printed geometry to channel almost all the gas out ports in the front but at a controlled rate that reduces impulse. They don't have as good raw suppression, but they accomplish it with extremely low bp which makes them quite pleasant on semi guns even ones that have no agb. So use matters.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyway with all that tl;dr done, and also mentioning that obviously budget is always a factor:
            - The absolute highest performing supersonic 30cal cans right now are the CAT ("combat application technologies" is the company name) ones. They're available in both ti and inconel with identical internal geometries, so only difference is duty rating and weight. They quite expensive (like in the $1300 area) and the cat guys are absolute meme lords with the worst fricking site I've ever seen but it performs. They're medium high BC cans.
            - The Diligent Defense Enticer L is a very reasonably priced high performing medium high BC alternative, can be had for less than $600. It's not inconel but I'll mention it anyway just because it really punches above its weight for a gun that can handle the BC.
            - Anthem-S is a solid lowish BC option for $830, a hybrid design that uses inconel for the blast baffle (highest force facing part) and steel for the rest. Also really punches above its weight.
            - Huxwrx makes the best flow cans right now. Their top end model is the Flow762, which is all titanium but that matters less with flow, and it too is expensive as frick. A more reasonable really good hybrid option from them is the Ventum. It's a ti core again, but unlike anything else it has a steel shell which means it's the first 3D printed one I know of that is actually repairable vs replaceable. The core can be replaced if damaged without affecting the serial #'d part, which means no new form 4, and it's $820 not $1300+.

            Dunno if any of that will be useful to you but places to start. Granted with stocking all crazy these days you might want to settle for something else to start out with. Sadly in America the NFA means there aren't any actual cheap cans, even $500 is still a lot by normal standards.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >state law bans suppressors outright

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of the shitty 8 huh? Well, don't give up hope or activism if you're committed to said state, getting stuff done at a state level isn't impossible. Alternatively if you're just there to make a bunch of moolah focus extra hard on saving/investing and count the days until you can move to a free state. Maybe establish residency elsewhere, at one point at least texas had very low requirements to get a driver's license, only need to "live there" for 30 days which you could actually mostly do remote. Then get some funs on a trust, add someone one state over who can hang onto them and you can at least go shoot there I dunno.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      File a lawsuit to reverse the bans, but do it under some reason like suppressors are environmentally friendly (because they are). Bleeding heart queers love shit like that

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just ordered the Obsidian Rugged 9. pretty stoked, please try not to be too jelly

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not jelly, happy with what I've got, but happy for you too. And you probably won't have to wait 248 days like I did as well! Good luck on a quick approval anon.

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