Had a uncle who was shell shocked for life after the Germans bombarded them with thier 88's >He also afterwards was given electro shock therapy and became even more crazy!
>bombarded >88
88 don’t serve an indirect fire role, it’s a high velocity anti aircraft gun that was used in battery fire
germans just realized that you can also point high velocity guns at tanks in north africa
Did O'Neill kill Bin Laden, or did he just shoot him once he was already down? I thought the guy who actually fired the shots that put him down never had his identity revealed. I think he was also the guy who tackled two of Bin Laden's wives after shooting him.
It honestly doesn't even matter if he did fire the fatal shots, I will never take this glorywhore at his word. Supposed to be a operating in the shadows as a matter of course, and can't keep his mouth shut because he can't bear the thought of not going down in history
There's always narcissists on spec ops, as they do test for psychopathic/sociopathic traits and prefer them (they provide resilience to mental stress of repeated missions). They're the ones doing podcasts and shit.
We think it's fine, as no one would really know some of the stuff we do otherwise.
Also doesn't help that the military pays shit and kicks you to the curb at the end of your service once your body & mind is broken. Gotta monetize your experience somehow to make a living once you're out.
O'Neil wasn't even on the same floor. He was coming up the stairs when Bin Laden was shot. He just put a round in the body like everyone else on the team did. He's just another former spec ops guy inflating his own legend for personal gain.
This. He left where he was supposed to be during the mission just so he could canoe Laden's corpse which is why we will never get photos of the corpse. It was desecrated and the world would burst a blood vessel even though he deserves it.
>It was desecrated and the world would burst a blood vessel even though he deserves it.
Wow the man took direct action explicitly in the name of stopping US aid to Israel. What a fucking horrible guy draw and quarter him
Yeah bc being so mad you chimp out and shoot a body a bunch of times after the person is no longer even there is totally not-crying-about-it activity. 10 years later
>It was desecrated and the world would burst a blood vessel even though he deserves it.
Lmao the world would've burst a blood vessel if bin laden had been captured and allowed to testify and reveal that he'd been a long-term CIA asset and was living in an ISI safehouse, which is why they sent a unit of serial killers on leashes to kill him, with weak instructions not to fuck the corpse and no consequences for the ginger retard who fucked the corpse anyway.
If the government was worried that Bin Laden would testify (nervermind nobody knew he was even shot until the government announced it anyways) why wouldn't they just missile strike the compound? Why do your conspiracy plots always lean on some shadowy group that is above the law relying on concocting silly black ops to hide their crime? Why is it always presented as some last ditch cover up that was discovered by internet autists? In this case specifically, why would the government care if Bin Laden caught a bullet from a SEAL in his compound or Agent Smith in some blacksite cell? The US government would be under literally zero pressure to let Bin Laden testify or to even let the world know they had him in custody. They extracted the body and it was "buried at sea" claiming there was also valuable intel found in the compound. For all you know he is sitting in some windowless cell beneath the whitehouse being brainwashed with sissy hypno porn and interrogated with long drawn out non-sequitur stories by Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell about their childhoods.
>why didn't they just level a large house in the middle of a city of 250,000 people in an officially allied country
The raid was carried out without the permission or knowledge of the Pakistani government and they officially condemned it as it was, it would have been a legitimate problem to just fucking blow it up.
You're acting like it's some tinfoil hat conspiracy to say that bin Laden had extensive connections to both the cia and isi dating to the soviet-afghan war, which is just objective fact. In terms of what I think happened? It's not tinfoil hat lizard man conspiracy theory to think that he cut a deal with the ISI when he fled Afghanistan, and given the ISI's extensive history of funding terror groups it's not far fetched to infer from there that at least to some extent they were aware of his presence in Abbottabad given the location and size of the compound.
The CIA connection is admittedly a bigger leap to make but given, again, the agency's record of material support for entities outright hostile to the US up to and including setting up networks and training them, and given the close collaboration between the ISI and CIA, again it's not that far fetched leap to make.
>they wouldn't be compelled to allow him to testify
They didn't allow him to testify and they didn't allow themselves to be put into a situation where that was even remotely a possibility
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moron, everyone knows he was an asset, it's common knowledge he was trained by them to fight the soviets. Blowback and America's inability to forsee it coming is a joke specifically because of him. The tinfoil comes out when you think the CIA or Feds needed to task a kill squad for the guy when he would have been dead either way or they would have simply used the same weapon that turned Soleimani into salami. It doesn't matter if they killed him in Pakistan, had Obama blow his brains out with a gold plated 1911 on the flight deck of the Reagan or if Agent Smith put one in the back of his head somewhere in Langley or Cuba. Once they had actionable intel on his location he was a dead man, there wasn't a single deep state gay shitting his pants over the possibility that Bin Laden would get handed over to the UN and allowed to say he worked for the CIA, they didn't allow it to be a possibility because it never was.
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Yeah for sure gay that's why they waited until soleimani was in iraq to vaporize him lol
There are places that it's politically acceptable to drone strike and places it's not. Nobody gives a fuck if we drop a hellfire missile in Afghanistan or Iraq (ignoring that there was legitimately a ton of outrage over the Soleimani assassination), that particular urban center in Pakistan, not so much turns out.
Like what are you even fucking arguing here lmao? They literally sent a Tier 1 mil squad to merk him, they didn't do a drone strike, which they absolutely would have, which is why he was hiding in the middle of a city in pakistan in the first place.
You're not even arguing he wasn't an asset. You're arguing, what exactly? That there was no concern about him implicating high-level government officials in attacks on US citizens? We both agree he was an intelligence asset, we both agree he was killed in a manner that precludes any such testimony.
So our disagreement isn't about any of the facts, it's speculation about the motive. I think he was maintained as an asset up to his death and I suspect that at the very least the ISI and probably the CIA knew where he was and was probably even using him to control counterterror operations potentially up to his death, at which point I think a call was made that he had become politically more useful as a dead body than as an asset. Within a few months of his death we were actively funding, arming, and training al qaeda affiliates in syria and libya.
You think that we killed him as soon as we verified where he was.
The manner of his killing means that we'll never actually get to know.
I'll also argue that what I'm saying is considerably less tinfoil hat shit than the official narrative for a decade, which was that he was holed up in a sophisticated network of underground fortresses in hollowed-out mountains like a fucking bond villian.
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>he had become politically more useful as a dead body than as an asset
[NTA] Same week as the Royal Wedding and over a year out from the Elections?
1 month ago
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Remember when the moderate rebels turned out to actually be al qaeda, anon?
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If you're implying that Usama's liquation cemented the resolve of "moderate" jihadists in MENA, why was his supposed corpse advertised as receiving Islamic rites before its burial at sea?
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That's not even kind of what I'm saying
I'm implying that UBL's very publicized killing was specifically intended to drum up domestic support for the Obama administration's policies and actions in MENA as well part of a removal of "old guard" CIA assets to replace them with a new wave of amenable assets in terror orgs across MENA
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>BHO had UBL eliminated to pave the way for nu Islamism and curry Fauvel ahead of his MENA 2.0 strategy
Interesting theory
If watching real sniper kills has taught me anything, the targets who are hit always seem to drop faster than a sack of potatoes instead of flailing around like in that clip.
ye
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>argue to support >argue not to support >end up with half-assed covert support >half-ass-supported groups not competitive with jihadist groups >supported groups get absorbed into jihadist groups
you literally cannot win
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Dumb bros will read this uncritically and not connect the dots between "pro democracy moderate activists trained in and funded by the US" turning out to be al qaeda operatives and shit like the School of the Americas training foreign death squads lmao
This is literally how we've played the game since WWII, will you morons read a fucking book
1 month ago
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bro, you're fucking retarded.
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If the government was worried that Bin Laden would testify (nervermind nobody knew he was even shot until the government announced it anyways) why wouldn't they just missile strike the compound? Why do your conspiracy plots always lean on some shadowy group that is above the law relying on concocting silly black ops to hide their crime? Why is it always presented as some last ditch cover up that was discovered by internet autists? In this case specifically, why would the government care if Bin Laden caught a bullet from a SEAL in his compound or Agent Smith in some blacksite cell? The US government would be under literally zero pressure to let Bin Laden testify or to even let the world know they had him in custody. They extracted the body and it was "buried at sea" claiming there was also valuable intel found in the compound. For all you know he is sitting in some windowless cell beneath the whitehouse being brainwashed with sissy hypno porn and interrogated with long drawn out non-sequitur stories by Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell about their childhoods.
At least one other guy on the raid (Matthew Bissonnette) wrote a bookand publicly claimed to be the guy who killed UBL, in fact Bissonnette's book came out first but he got in trouble because he didn't let the Navy vet the manuscript before publication.
Both Bissonnette and O'Neill left the Navy early foregoing their full pension to try and capitalize on the fame of being "the guy who killed bin Laden," O'Neill just happened to win the press battle.
According to multiple anonymous sources neither of them were the first guy through the door.
O'Neill has publicly said he canoed UBL, probably after he was dead, which is the reason for the "burial at sea" and that was probably the ONE thing these dudes were told explicitly not to do.
O'Neill is also from my hometown and is a notorious violent drunk driving shitbird who leans on his celebrity to get out of trouble and I have literally zero doubt the allegations in OP are 100% true.
>O'Neill has publicly said he canoed UBL, probably after he was dead, which is the reason for the "burial at sea" and that was probably the ONE thing these dudes were told explicitly not to do.
Lol. I would trust rank and file Marines to be more professional.
Hi fellow Buttant. Love hearing other people acknowledge Rob is a shitstain. His dad conned a lot of people out of their retirement funds and went for prison as well, but he lives it up at the bars and social clubs talking about his operator son.
osama bin laden died of kidney failure. he's probably loco in the membrane from whatever mkultra they used to sir han sir han him into thinking he did combined with the fact that he has navy seal retard monkey brains in a jar
If watching real sniper kills has taught me anything, the targets who are hit always seem to drop faster than a sack of potatoes instead of flailing around like in that clip.
Brain damage has nothing to do with it, the average sof dudes are authoritarian assholes with super jock personalities and PrepHole just hates to admit it. Most of them 100% would have bullied the average PrepHoleommando in school. Sort of a never meet your hero type of deal.
This type of behavior isn’t from a medical condition, it’s just the actual douchebag acting the way they are, usually with some chemical assistance (alcohol/drugs).
There’s a reason the alcoholism, addiction, divorce, and suicide rates among these people are so high (same with law enforcement/corrections).
They’re usually entirely unlikable after they peak and leave their cool guy job, and they lose all of their personal connections because nobody likes being around them.
O’Neil will very likely end up an hero’ing himself, for the above stated reasons.
SOF selection is deliberately biased toward "non-traditional" problem-solving, physical and mental resiliency, and antisocial personality disorder (more commonly known as sociopathy and/or psychopathy). All these dudes fit the type for a reason. And I'd argue that you're wrong about the TBI thing, a lot of these dudes show symptoms that are consistent with multiple concussions in conjunction with the criteria listed above.
Idk how much interaction you've had with former SOF dudes but they're extremely weird in pretty much every normal social situation. One particular encounter during a training I was at stands out where a former CAG guy (who was in his 50s) out of nowhere starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags out of his backpack at the range during our lunch break, and he legitimately did not seem to understand or care that this wasnt an appropriate context for that or that nobody else was interested in that concersation.
>SOF selection is deliberately biased toward "non-traditional" problem-solving, physical and mental resiliency, and antisocial personality disorder
<citation needed>
Anon, this reads like you ripped it from a wikipedia article. We have dozens of interviews with these guys talking about selection and sucking themselves off with self descriptions like “meat eater” and “type A personality.”
They are super jocks and meatheads, no need to complicate it or class it up. >starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags
And this is weird for a jock how? Sounds like 100% typical locker room talk about banging cheerleaders and talking about his dick and sharing nudes.
The only weird one in the group was the quiet dude who keeps to himself and browses a mongolian basket weaving forum populated by furries and jap porn coomers (you).
>Y-you can’t just go around condensing and making fun of OPERATORS! >They’re elite high functioning sociopathic autists just like me!
Hero worship is a hell of a drug.
SOF selection is deliberately biased toward "non-traditional" problem-solving, physical and mental resiliency, and antisocial personality disorder (more commonly known as sociopathy and/or psychopathy). All these dudes fit the type for a reason. And I'd argue that you're wrong about the TBI thing, a lot of these dudes show symptoms that are consistent with multiple concussions in conjunction with the criteria listed above.
Idk how much interaction you've had with former SOF dudes but they're extremely weird in pretty much every normal social situation. One particular encounter during a training I was at stands out where a former CAG guy (who was in his 50s) out of nowhere starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags out of his backpack at the range during our lunch break, and he legitimately did not seem to understand or care that this wasnt an appropriate context for that or that nobody else was interested in that concersation.
that makes you think I think these dudes are "heroes" lmao
Was it the part where I said that a high proportion of them test strongly for antisocial personality disorder? Was it the part where I said they were socially maladapted when trying to talk with people outside of their own insular culture? Was it the part where I said the lifers show consistent symptoms of fucking brain damage?
How would you know what a jock is if you've never been one. Do you need everyone to fit some stereotype from some shitty 80s move or 90s self help book? There are as many different kinds of people as there are people on the face of the earth. In all my many years of being what you think of as a 'jock', hitter and a-type I've never ever had a conversation in a locker room with anyone. I associate the phrase a-type more with HR people who are taking up running than I do with hitters or people who make teams. Party hard work hard. All this jock shit is noise in your head.
not him but
It took me a while to see this. Almost every sports person I've met has been very kind, while the smart, nerdy kids were some of the most vicious people I ran into. Hollywood is a complete inversion of reality. Yes, I realize I'm retarded to have to invest any thought into it to come to that conclusion.
After travelling the world on his release at the end of the war, Sir Jack returned to live at Castle Leslie in his 70s, when he became a regular visitor to County Monaghan nightclubs.
The pensioner is famed for his love of dancing to rave music, and celebrated his 85th birthday in the world's biggest nightclub in Ibiza.
Sir John Leslie was presented with the Legion d'Honneur at the French embassy in Dublin on Monday. The 98-year-old is a cousin of Winston Churchill.
During WW2, he commanded a section of the British Army in a battle to defend Boulogne Sur Mer from the Germans.
He was captured and spent five years in a German Prisoner of War (POW) camp.
He was a nice guy by all accounts. Why are you trying to shit on his memory like a fag? Does he make your life look small, bitter, unaccomplished and spiteful by any chance?
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Saville was a nice guy by all accounts until the truth came out.
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Also he was literally accused of rape lol.
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[...] >British >rich / well connected >PTSD
I wonder what kind of Saville-tier stuff he got up to
well done on slandering a based dead anon because of your weak google skills and the way you were born a worthless tard.
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>t. Bongistani Internet Defense Force
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>t. retard
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Saville was a nice guy by all accounts until the truth came out.
Also he was literally accused of rape lol.
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Accused or convicted? I don't know who this guy is but I ask because anyone can accuse anybody of anything
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That's not the same man. That's a TV presenter.
Accused or convicted? I don't know who this guy is but I ask because anyone can accuse anybody of anything
Anon is an idiot. He searched for John leslie and found a TV presenter who is nothing to do with him aside from the same name who was accused of and cleared of sexual assault. Anon is as they say a stupid cunt.
>Idk how much interaction you've had with former SOF dudes but they're extremely weird in pretty much every normal social situation.
Can confirm, one of my next door neighbors was an active duty SEAL. My first interaction meeting him was when he pounded on my door at 3:00 in the morning wearing all black skivvies and a skullcap to let me know that, quote, "some dudes are staking out the neighborhood." Guy had no social cues, and couldn't understand why I was pissed off and came to the door with a glock behind my back. His wife was hot though, but they were both evangelical or some shit so she was always talking about god.
SOF selection is deliberately biased toward "non-traditional" problem-solving, physical and mental resiliency, and antisocial personality disorder (more commonly known as sociopathy and/or psychopathy). All these dudes fit the type for a reason. And I'd argue that you're wrong about the TBI thing, a lot of these dudes show symptoms that are consistent with multiple concussions in conjunction with the criteria listed above.
Idk how much interaction you've had with former SOF dudes but they're extremely weird in pretty much every normal social situation. One particular encounter during a training I was at stands out where a former CAG guy (who was in his 50s) out of nowhere starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags out of his backpack at the range during our lunch break, and he legitimately did not seem to understand or care that this wasnt an appropriate context for that or that nobody else was interested in that concersation.
Post more “beta PrepHole user mogged and baffled by sigma SOF” stories
>out of nowhere starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags out of his backpack at the range during our lunch break
LMAO, based schizo
had the privilege of meeting several members in the SOF community. Green Berets and Air Force dudes were the most normal. most Rangers and Seals are mad dogs on a leash.
In my experience, AFSOF, Rangers, and Green Berets were the most normal in that order, with MARSOC, CAG dudes, and SEALs being the least normal, also in that order.
Those are the ones I've had experience with anyway. It's also been exclusively former mil dudes I've met through work so there's definitely a chance that skews stuff but I think it's relevent to this convo in terms of retired SOF public figures
>the only groups that recruit APDs are cartels and organised crime >organised >not "organized"
You're not American, and I couldn't give less of a fuck what your uninformed opinion on this is lmao
>APDs are guaranteed future friendly fire incidents
Correct lmao pic fucking related
>They’re usually entirely unlikable after they peak and leave their cool guy job, and they lose all of their personal connections because nobody likes being around them.
Actually me and fair. The good news is I stopped caring a long time ago. You have to to do that shit anyway
He said that to the Apostles. I don't rank myself that highly.
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What was said to the Apostles applies to everyone who follows Christ. If you're a Christian, then you're supposed to be kind and generous and merciful the way Christ is kind and generous and merciful.
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I am well loved by Him, you do as you like.
1 month ago
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Okay buddy. Enjoy Hell. : )
1 month ago
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I think if you keep trying to take Gods place and pronouncing judgements on his behalf maybe you'll be maybe acquainted with it. Still you cultists were always into setting yourself up as God. he says to me he does not know you. make of that what you will
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see
If you are genuinely saved and full of grace, then the good works will come naturally. You will be kind and generous and merciful to those around you because you are filled with the light of Christ. >You will know them by their fruit.
You have only produced bad fruit.
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My God knows me and loves me as his Son. Best of luck to you on your journeys.
1 month ago
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Enjoy not being saved.
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Do you think of yourself as God? You are not. In fact seems to me you are far from God but that's your business.
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If you are genuinely saved and full of grace, then the good works will come naturally. You will be kind and generous and merciful to those around you because you are filled with the light of Christ. >You will know them by their fruit.
You have only produced bad fruit.
This is why I think we should have old soldier homes on bases to help people readjust into civilian life, or give them a place to fall back to if their shit gets out of sort. Some guys just need that stability and order.
The guys from my platoon that went to green berets and the rangers I trained with were mostly very normal guys except my old psg who was a total psycho. Seals seem to be more unhinged than the rest. Don't know why.
I think it is the drugs that came with the high operational tempo. Alcohol included. Injuries from too much PT or battle injuries add up. Roids are necesary to keep up with the insane fitness standards and painkillers are needed to keep you going. Uppers are used for long operations and downers to stabilize you. Marihuana to mellow you out. Tobacco and stupid amounts of caffeine are used everyday to stimulate the CNS against the massive fatigue. It is not hafd to see how you can become an unstable junkie like mad man. Performance is what matters and the navy wont ask how do yo do it.
Yeah my psg was roiding hard when he went to selection and the q course so army does the same shit. They're just a bit more humble than the seals. As long as you don't get caught it's all good. Pretty sure the combat controllers from the air force were juicing too.
Machine'll chew up and spit out anyone. It's just easy to lose sight that it's treating a seal as disposable as the jarhead.
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Yeah for sure gay that's why they waited until soleimani was in iraq to vaporize him lol
There are places that it's politically acceptable to drone strike and places it's not. Nobody gives a fuck if we drop a hellfire missile in Afghanistan or Iraq (ignoring that there was legitimately a ton of outrage over the Soleimani assassination), that particular urban center in Pakistan, not so much turns out.
Like what are you even fucking arguing here lmao? They literally sent a Tier 1 mil squad to merk him, they didn't do a drone strike, which they absolutely would have, which is why he was hiding in the middle of a city in pakistan in the first place.
You're not even arguing he wasn't an asset. You're arguing, what exactly? That there was no concern about him implicating high-level government officials in attacks on US citizens? We both agree he was an intelligence asset, we both agree he was killed in a manner that precludes any such testimony.
So our disagreement isn't about any of the facts, it's speculation about the motive. I think he was maintained as an asset up to his death and I suspect that at the very least the ISI and probably the CIA knew where he was and was probably even using him to control counterterror operations potentially up to his death, at which point I think a call was made that he had become politically more useful as a dead body than as an asset. Within a few months of his death we were actively funding, arming, and training al qaeda affiliates in syria and libya.
You think that we killed him as soon as we verified where he was.
The manner of his killing means that we'll never actually get to know.
I'll also argue that what I'm saying is considerably less tinfoil hat shit than the official narrative for a decade, which was that he was holed up in a sophisticated network of underground fortresses in hollowed-out mountains like a fucking bond villian.
They sent a team because a drone strike wouldn't be able to verify it. Also it's really just muslim or anti-american butthurt that would have conniptions about killing Osama or canoeing him. He wasn't Yasser Arafat where he was a political figure as well as a militant. He was an out and out terrorist. Asset or not, the only reason people give a shit is: >A bloo bloo bloo sovereignty (for some reason A-Ok for Afghanistan or Pakistan to violate American sovereignty by abetting and protecting Osama while he plans a strike but not ok for the US to violate their sovereignty) >A bloo bloo bloo americans >A bloo blo bloo treating killing someone like a ra ra soccer score
Jocko Willink got his brain damage from being used as a battering ram. The other SEALS would hold him horizontally and heave ho his head into doors to break them down
Operator culture getting more and more pop culture is so funny im here for it. Now people who pretend to be anti-war have to do respect and adore someone who's canoed a child (nothing wrong with that).
>his ass would get laughed at for posting it during the day. AKA he's a pussy.
NTA, but try not to be an asshurt retard. SEALs have an out of proportion number of retards, liars, and frauds. Marcus Luttrell, and Rob O'Neill probably being the most famous of the asshats. We could do a daily SEAL hate thread and never run out of material.
>be me >have dad who was unironically a Navy SEAL who served in both Panama and the Gulf War >he's actually a nice guy to basically everyone he meets and is a volunteer lifeguard at the local lake
GWOT SOF bloat and mission creep plus muh troops propaganda has propagated the current culture.
Your dad probably actually did underwater demolition and maritime operations (you know, the specialized tasks the SEALs were founded to do) rather than being one of a shitload of dudes across every branch whose main job was to go into people's houses and kill them while they were asleep, and he probably did it before muh psychopath biker gang aesthetic and sick branding and podcast opportunities after retirement were the reason people went through selection in the first place.
This is probably the best take. OG SOF guys did the job for higher reasons. Most people probably didn't even know what a Navy Seal even was, or even SF or fucking Rangers. There was no real fame or fortune to be had. You did it, full well knowing of the risks involved, because you had a calling to it or thought that you could do more than what you were doing for the/a "cause".
Modern SOF have been psyop'd into being irl marvel superheroes. Combine that with the zeitgeist of the last man syndrome of "feel bad for me" and "look how much I've suffered, compared to you!" race to the bottom type of shit and you got yourself a shitstorm of hyper aggressive in the childlike sense retards joining up and having their egos go out of control. Just to get occasionally cockslapped by reality when the enemy doesn't just die while being asleep but actually fight back through ambushes and IED's which leads to horribly fucked up mental states as those egos of supermen get shattered by the fist of reality. If US forces ever get deployed into a combat zone against a competent enemy who has the will to fight and terrain where they can actually protect themselves from constant drone strikes, I have a feeling we are not only going to see mass casualty events that we haven't seen since Korea and Vietnam due to GWOT making everyone lazy and making moves they really shouldn't ever make because they would never get punished by the enemy for doing them. But you will probably see mass casualties and a complete breaking down of US SOF forces who will go in thinking it's another D/A mission just to walk into an enemy complex battle position and get shot at from all sides with no cover and no means for support to help.
Most dudes now, just as then, do it for fun. Finding it fun to do violence effectively is evidence of normal testosterone levels, not a personality disorder. Dudes who did it for recognition are just much more likely to occupy the limelight for obvious reasons.
>Finding it fun to do violence effectively is evidence of normal testosterone levels
Violence in and of itself is normal, men are warlike. Who you do violence to and whether said violence is controlled or uncontrolled are far more important aspects. Most guys I see who are former SOF all give me "I beat my son for not being what I dreamed of while I'm drunk, but it's not my fault" kind of energy.
they weren't anywhere near that unknown, there were movies (that john wayne green beret one was made while the vietnam war was still going on even) and songs and all that going back to studios rushing to make OSS films right after ww2. you're absolutely right that the kind of exposure and the level of it doesn't compare to post-gwot though.
>It's another episode of PrepHole seething about SOF
That being Robert kinda does seem full of himself
At least Marky Bis somewhat went away from the spotlight
The service doesn't make them like that. What you don't understand is that soldiers and operators are just average dumb dudes. You don't have to be smart to clear rooms, you just have to be dumb enough to suffer through tons more abuse than even the regular military for the same amount of pay just to get the title of SF. Not even to mention the immense amount of risk involved that they didn't factor into their cost-benefit analysis. These are retards, and retards are often trashy and will do shit like get drunk often or beat up their spouses.
Was reportedly the deadliest sniper in American history at 160 confirmed kills. Got caught lying about shooting looters during Hurricane Katrina and beating up ex-Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura for his supposed lack of patriotism. Was killed while administering one of the most ill-advised forms of therapy imaginable (taking a PTSD-afflicted vet to a gun range, I'm not kidding) before either came to light. His death proved to be extremely convenient as it overshadowed the lies.
>Marcus Luttrell
Lone survivor of the botched Operation Red Wings. Wrote a book naturally called Lone Survivor. Has been proven to have at the very least greatly exaggerated the number of Taliban fighters present, is alleged to have engaged in cowardice and fled the battlefield to save himself although virtually no solid proof of the latter claims actually exist.
You forgot the part where Kyle claimed he beat up (or killed I don't remember) some guy at a gas station then told the cops he was a Navy Seal and they let him go.
Meh. O'Neili is a bit of a jerk, but that guard was a pompus twit trying to take him on solo, and probably didn't even have the authority to arrest to begin with.
They 'literally' put out a doctored photo claiming it was his corpse, then said they did not take him alive, took no other photos or dna evidence, and dumped his burned remains into the ocean.
Then they would of had to admit he'd been dead for years prior.
Many of his videos were thought to be made after he died.
Low and behind he had no new content for a long time prior to supposedly being iced.
Never said it did. No such thing as heros anyway everyones cowardly sooner or later and everyone is stupid sooner or later, its just a job, just do the job.
For the love of god disband the seals already, these gays have gotten way too insufferable. Make ANY other special forces unit just take up the work that they do.
You can actually see in someone's eyes if they're smart or not, independently of the physiognomy.
Look as Magnus Carlsen, for example.
He has an actual neanderthal face, but you can see the calculating behind his eyes.
DJ Shipley also has brain damage he was next to a door charge that went off right next to him as well as multiple grenades and bombs. All of these guys are on TRT or HGH and all of them have severe PTSD/paranoia issues (see Shipley calling the cops on his own friend).
I can almost guarantee DJ was just as big of a gay before any brain damage as he was after, maybe just with less inhibitions and a pinch more violence.
Like most of these guys, he is a grade A douche if you actually listen to them.
That video is insane and such a great indicator of what many people in this thread have said about these guys coming across like serial killers in normal situations
Imagine publicly filming, editing, uploading, and then selling a line of products all centered around the fact that integrity is gay and retarded.
Imagine being any of the fucking retards paying these dudes for workout routines and motivational speeches about brotherhood on patreon knowing that they did this lol. To say nothing of the gbrs gay drama that followed.
much like the British conquering the entire world to get away from British women the Romans conquered europe and the near east to get away from Giton henpecking them over their lack of respect for their elders and other infractions that would anger a virtuous roman boywife.
>much like the British conquering the entire world to get away from British women >tfw you will never sail the unknown world in search of Hispanices and exotic dicky
why even live
Theo Von said he went to a party and they said "Rob O'Neil is going to be here" people were "who's that?" "He's the guy who killed Bin Laden" He said everyone was kinda somber when he kicks the door in "ROB O'NEIL HERE!!! I KILLED BIN LADEN!!!" I guess he brags about it a little to much now.
Had a uncle who was shell shocked for life after the Germans bombarded them with thier 88's
>He also afterwards was given electro shock therapy and became even more crazy!
>bombarded
>88
88 don’t serve an indirect fire role, it’s a high velocity anti aircraft gun that was used in battery fire
germans just realized that you can also point high velocity guns at tanks in north africa
88s were used for indirect fire, allied soldiers also tended to call every gun an 88 as it was what they knew, and you're being an autistic pedant.
Not true. 88s were also used for indirect fire in WW2. According to the 101st Airborne anyway.
They were never used in that role. Just like how every tank was a tiger…
88s didn’ have shells or any way to aim in an indirect role.
You where there?
Bombarded doesn't mean indirect in the English language.
But Yes the Germans used them for indirect fire roles on both fronts
I want to fuck her mouth so bad, what's wrong with me bros
probably a victim of subliminal messaging
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Wrong Country to go to jail in!
>COLON COUNTY!
yeah and probably from all the coke
Did O'Neill kill Bin Laden, or did he just shoot him once he was already down? I thought the guy who actually fired the shots that put him down never had his identity revealed. I think he was also the guy who tackled two of Bin Laden's wives after shooting him.
It honestly doesn't even matter if he did fire the fatal shots, I will never take this glorywhore at his word. Supposed to be a operating in the shadows as a matter of course, and can't keep his mouth shut because he can't bear the thought of not going down in history
There's always narcissists on spec ops, as they do test for psychopathic/sociopathic traits and prefer them (they provide resilience to mental stress of repeated missions). They're the ones doing podcasts and shit.
We think it's fine, as no one would really know some of the stuff we do otherwise.
t.schizoid sociopath that's immune to PTSD
As a rule, the narcissists don't lie. The sociopaths with narcissistic traits do. These guy is probably the latter.
The quiet guys are the nomadic sociopaths or psychopaths.
Also doesn't help that the military pays shit and kicks you to the curb at the end of your service once your body & mind is broken. Gotta monetize your experience somehow to make a living once you're out.
You get a 50% lifetime pension retiring before the age of 40.
O'Neil wasn't even on the same floor. He was coming up the stairs when Bin Laden was shot. He just put a round in the body like everyone else on the team did. He's just another former spec ops guy inflating his own legend for personal gain.
This. He left where he was supposed to be during the mission just so he could canoe Laden's corpse which is why we will never get photos of the corpse. It was desecrated and the world would burst a blood vessel even though he deserves it.
>It was desecrated and the world would burst a blood vessel even though he deserves it.
Wow the man took direct action explicitly in the name of stopping US aid to Israel. What a fucking horrible guy draw and quarter him
Cry about it.
Yeah bc being so mad you chimp out and shoot a body a bunch of times after the person is no longer even there is totally not-crying-about-it activity. 10 years later
>the man took direct action explicitly in the name of stopping US aid to Israel
How the fuck did that turn out
>strengthens the US Isreal partnership by giving the US even more reason to want a friendly presence in the middle east.
0 IQ
>It was desecrated and the world would burst a blood vessel even though he deserves it.
Lmao the world would've burst a blood vessel if bin laden had been captured and allowed to testify and reveal that he'd been a long-term CIA asset and was living in an ISI safehouse, which is why they sent a unit of serial killers on leashes to kill him, with weak instructions not to fuck the corpse and no consequences for the ginger retard who fucked the corpse anyway.
If the government was worried that Bin Laden would testify (nervermind nobody knew he was even shot until the government announced it anyways) why wouldn't they just missile strike the compound? Why do your conspiracy plots always lean on some shadowy group that is above the law relying on concocting silly black ops to hide their crime? Why is it always presented as some last ditch cover up that was discovered by internet autists? In this case specifically, why would the government care if Bin Laden caught a bullet from a SEAL in his compound or Agent Smith in some blacksite cell? The US government would be under literally zero pressure to let Bin Laden testify or to even let the world know they had him in custody. They extracted the body and it was "buried at sea" claiming there was also valuable intel found in the compound. For all you know he is sitting in some windowless cell beneath the whitehouse being brainwashed with sissy hypno porn and interrogated with long drawn out non-sequitur stories by Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell about their childhoods.
>why didn't they just level a large house in the middle of a city of 250,000 people in an officially allied country
The raid was carried out without the permission or knowledge of the Pakistani government and they officially condemned it as it was, it would have been a legitimate problem to just fucking blow it up.
You're acting like it's some tinfoil hat conspiracy to say that bin Laden had extensive connections to both the cia and isi dating to the soviet-afghan war, which is just objective fact. In terms of what I think happened? It's not tinfoil hat lizard man conspiracy theory to think that he cut a deal with the ISI when he fled Afghanistan, and given the ISI's extensive history of funding terror groups it's not far fetched to infer from there that at least to some extent they were aware of his presence in Abbottabad given the location and size of the compound.
The CIA connection is admittedly a bigger leap to make but given, again, the agency's record of material support for entities outright hostile to the US up to and including setting up networks and training them, and given the close collaboration between the ISI and CIA, again it's not that far fetched leap to make.
>they wouldn't be compelled to allow him to testify
They didn't allow him to testify and they didn't allow themselves to be put into a situation where that was even remotely a possibility
moron, everyone knows he was an asset, it's common knowledge he was trained by them to fight the soviets. Blowback and America's inability to forsee it coming is a joke specifically because of him. The tinfoil comes out when you think the CIA or Feds needed to task a kill squad for the guy when he would have been dead either way or they would have simply used the same weapon that turned Soleimani into salami. It doesn't matter if they killed him in Pakistan, had Obama blow his brains out with a gold plated 1911 on the flight deck of the Reagan or if Agent Smith put one in the back of his head somewhere in Langley or Cuba. Once they had actionable intel on his location he was a dead man, there wasn't a single deep state gay shitting his pants over the possibility that Bin Laden would get handed over to the UN and allowed to say he worked for the CIA, they didn't allow it to be a possibility because it never was.
Yeah for sure gay that's why they waited until soleimani was in iraq to vaporize him lol
There are places that it's politically acceptable to drone strike and places it's not. Nobody gives a fuck if we drop a hellfire missile in Afghanistan or Iraq (ignoring that there was legitimately a ton of outrage over the Soleimani assassination), that particular urban center in Pakistan, not so much turns out.
Like what are you even fucking arguing here lmao? They literally sent a Tier 1 mil squad to merk him, they didn't do a drone strike, which they absolutely would have, which is why he was hiding in the middle of a city in pakistan in the first place.
You're not even arguing he wasn't an asset. You're arguing, what exactly? That there was no concern about him implicating high-level government officials in attacks on US citizens? We both agree he was an intelligence asset, we both agree he was killed in a manner that precludes any such testimony.
So our disagreement isn't about any of the facts, it's speculation about the motive. I think he was maintained as an asset up to his death and I suspect that at the very least the ISI and probably the CIA knew where he was and was probably even using him to control counterterror operations potentially up to his death, at which point I think a call was made that he had become politically more useful as a dead body than as an asset. Within a few months of his death we were actively funding, arming, and training al qaeda affiliates in syria and libya.
You think that we killed him as soon as we verified where he was.
The manner of his killing means that we'll never actually get to know.
I'll also argue that what I'm saying is considerably less tinfoil hat shit than the official narrative for a decade, which was that he was holed up in a sophisticated network of underground fortresses in hollowed-out mountains like a fucking bond villian.
>he had become politically more useful as a dead body than as an asset
[NTA] Same week as the Royal Wedding and over a year out from the Elections?
Remember when the moderate rebels turned out to actually be al qaeda, anon?
If you're implying that Usama's liquation cemented the resolve of "moderate" jihadists in MENA, why was his supposed corpse advertised as receiving Islamic rites before its burial at sea?
That's not even kind of what I'm saying
I'm implying that UBL's very publicized killing was specifically intended to drum up domestic support for the Obama administration's policies and actions in MENA as well part of a removal of "old guard" CIA assets to replace them with a new wave of amenable assets in terror orgs across MENA
>BHO had UBL eliminated to pave the way for nu Islamism and curry Fauvel ahead of his MENA 2.0 strategy
Interesting theory
ye
>argue to support
>argue not to support
>end up with half-assed covert support
>half-ass-supported groups not competitive with jihadist groups
>supported groups get absorbed into jihadist groups
you literally cannot win
Dumb bros will read this uncritically and not connect the dots between "pro democracy moderate activists trained in and funded by the US" turning out to be al qaeda operatives and shit like the School of the Americas training foreign death squads lmao
This is literally how we've played the game since WWII, will you morons read a fucking book
bro, you're fucking retarded.
Nice fiction you've constructed.
>Did O'Neill kill Bin Laden
no lmao
but he sure does like to say he did to act as an authority for gun control though
At least one other guy on the raid (Matthew Bissonnette) wrote a bookand publicly claimed to be the guy who killed UBL, in fact Bissonnette's book came out first but he got in trouble because he didn't let the Navy vet the manuscript before publication.
Both Bissonnette and O'Neill left the Navy early foregoing their full pension to try and capitalize on the fame of being "the guy who killed bin Laden," O'Neill just happened to win the press battle.
According to multiple anonymous sources neither of them were the first guy through the door.
O'Neill has publicly said he canoed UBL, probably after he was dead, which is the reason for the "burial at sea" and that was probably the ONE thing these dudes were told explicitly not to do.
O'Neill is also from my hometown and is a notorious violent drunk driving shitbird who leans on his celebrity to get out of trouble and I have literally zero doubt the allegations in OP are 100% true.
>O'Neill has publicly said he canoed UBL, probably after he was dead, which is the reason for the "burial at sea" and that was probably the ONE thing these dudes were told explicitly not to do.
Lol. I would trust rank and file Marines to be more professional.
Hi fellow Buttant. Love hearing other people acknowledge Rob is a shitstain. His dad conned a lot of people out of their retirement funds and went for prison as well, but he lives it up at the bars and social clubs talking about his operator son.
he did not.
stumpf is good friends with bill rapier, who was actually on the assault team for the bin laden raid.
o'neil is lying.
that makes sense, I’ve always thought O’Neill doesn’t really have Bin Laden killing physiognomy
It never even happened, bin Laden was chilling on the Bush’s ranch
Beating up a security guard (allegedly) does though.
>Beating up a security guard (allegedly) does though.
Nathaniel lalo Roberti style! Nice. Bonus points if you know who im talking about. Alcoholism is really really bad in the SEALs man...
osama bin laden died of kidney failure. he's probably loco in the membrane from whatever mkultra they used to sir han sir han him into thinking he did combined with the fact that he has navy seal retard monkey brains in a jar
SEAL's happily lie for book/movie deals (Marcus Luttrell)
If watching real sniper kills has taught me anything, the targets who are hit always seem to drop faster than a sack of potatoes instead of flailing around like in that clip.
Brain damage has nothing to do with it, the average sof dudes are authoritarian assholes with super jock personalities and PrepHole just hates to admit it. Most of them 100% would have bullied the average PrepHoleommando in school. Sort of a never meet your hero type of deal.
This type of behavior isn’t from a medical condition, it’s just the actual douchebag acting the way they are, usually with some chemical assistance (alcohol/drugs).
There’s a reason the alcoholism, addiction, divorce, and suicide rates among these people are so high (same with law enforcement/corrections).
They’re usually entirely unlikable after they peak and leave their cool guy job, and they lose all of their personal connections because nobody likes being around them.
O’Neil will very likely end up an hero’ing himself, for the above stated reasons.
SOF selection is deliberately biased toward "non-traditional" problem-solving, physical and mental resiliency, and antisocial personality disorder (more commonly known as sociopathy and/or psychopathy). All these dudes fit the type for a reason. And I'd argue that you're wrong about the TBI thing, a lot of these dudes show symptoms that are consistent with multiple concussions in conjunction with the criteria listed above.
Idk how much interaction you've had with former SOF dudes but they're extremely weird in pretty much every normal social situation. One particular encounter during a training I was at stands out where a former CAG guy (who was in his 50s) out of nowhere starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags out of his backpack at the range during our lunch break, and he legitimately did not seem to understand or care that this wasnt an appropriate context for that or that nobody else was interested in that concersation.
if that's a relatively well known trainer, I can guess who that is.
You'd probably get it in one guess lol
>SOF selection is deliberately biased toward "non-traditional" problem-solving, physical and mental resiliency, and antisocial personality disorder
<citation needed>
Anon, this reads like you ripped it from a wikipedia article. We have dozens of interviews with these guys talking about selection and sucking themselves off with self descriptions like “meat eater” and “type A personality.”
They are super jocks and meatheads, no need to complicate it or class it up.
>starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags
And this is weird for a jock how? Sounds like 100% typical locker room talk about banging cheerleaders and talking about his dick and sharing nudes.
The only weird one in the group was the quiet dude who keeps to himself and browses a mongolian basket weaving forum populated by furries and jap porn coomers (you).
Can't tell if literally still in high school or just mentally and emotionally stuck in high school
>Y-you can’t just go around condensing and making fun of OPERATORS!
>They’re elite high functioning sociopathic autists just like me!
Hero worship is a hell of a drug.
What the fuck are you even talking about, retard?
You being a massive dick riding gay.
Can you articulate what exactly I wrote in
that makes you think I think these dudes are "heroes" lmao
Was it the part where I said that a high proportion of them test strongly for antisocial personality disorder? Was it the part where I said they were socially maladapted when trying to talk with people outside of their own insular culture? Was it the part where I said the lifers show consistent symptoms of fucking brain damage?
You're the one ranting about muh jocks, retard.
>mfw condensing
>you're going to be sp destroyed when I post my photos hope depicting you CHUD
......want to try that again, esl-kun?
Photo shop autocorrected, but despite that you are still a moron.
>Sounds like 100% typical locker room talk
If you act like a teenage jock in your 50's you're highly dysfunctional
How would you know what a jock is if you've never been one. Do you need everyone to fit some stereotype from some shitty 80s move or 90s self help book? There are as many different kinds of people as there are people on the face of the earth. In all my many years of being what you think of as a 'jock', hitter and a-type I've never ever had a conversation in a locker room with anyone. I associate the phrase a-type more with HR people who are taking up running than I do with hitters or people who make teams. Party hard work hard. All this jock shit is noise in your head.
not him but
It took me a while to see this. Almost every sports person I've met has been very kind, while the smart, nerdy kids were some of the most vicious people I ran into. Hollywood is a complete inversion of reality. Yes, I realize I'm retarded to have to invest any thought into it to come to that conclusion.
After travelling the world on his release at the end of the war, Sir Jack returned to live at Castle Leslie in his 70s, when he became a regular visitor to County Monaghan nightclubs.
The pensioner is famed for his love of dancing to rave music, and celebrated his 85th birthday in the world's biggest nightclub in Ibiza.
Sir John Leslie was presented with the Legion d'Honneur at the French embassy in Dublin on Monday. The 98-year-old is a cousin of Winston Churchill.
During WW2, he commanded a section of the British Army in a battle to defend Boulogne Sur Mer from the Germans.
He was captured and spent five years in a German Prisoner of War (POW) camp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Leslie,_4th_Baronet
he used post here...
>British
>rich / well connected
>PTSD
I wonder what kind of Saville-tier stuff he got up to
He was a nice guy by all accounts. Why are you trying to shit on his memory like a fag? Does he make your life look small, bitter, unaccomplished and spiteful by any chance?
Saville was a nice guy by all accounts until the truth came out.
well done on slandering a based dead anon because of your weak google skills and the way you were born a worthless tard.
>t. Bongistani Internet Defense Force
>t. retard
Also he was literally accused of rape lol.
Accused or convicted? I don't know who this guy is but I ask because anyone can accuse anybody of anything
That's not the same man. That's a TV presenter.
Anon is an idiot. He searched for John leslie and found a TV presenter who is nothing to do with him aside from the same name who was accused of and cleared of sexual assault. Anon is as they say a stupid cunt.
>Idk how much interaction you've had with former SOF dudes but they're extremely weird in pretty much every normal social situation.
Can confirm, one of my next door neighbors was an active duty SEAL. My first interaction meeting him was when he pounded on my door at 3:00 in the morning wearing all black skivvies and a skullcap to let me know that, quote, "some dudes are staking out the neighborhood." Guy had no social cues, and couldn't understand why I was pissed off and came to the door with a glock behind my back. His wife was hot though, but they were both evangelical or some shit so she was always talking about god.
Post more “beta PrepHole user mogged and baffled by sigma SOF” stories
is that weird? I'd be genuinely glad that the dude decided to tell me, in case the nogs decided to fuck around my house
>out of nowhere starts talking about jacking off and eventually starts pulling porno mags out of his backpack at the range during our lunch break
LMAO, based schizo
>a former CAG guy
>I can guess who that is.
No idea who you are thinking of, but I've heard that Paul Howe is legit nutzo cuckoo crazy.
had the privilege of meeting several members in the SOF community. Green Berets and Air Force dudes were the most normal. most Rangers and Seals are mad dogs on a leash.
In my experience, AFSOF, Rangers, and Green Berets were the most normal in that order, with MARSOC, CAG dudes, and SEALs being the least normal, also in that order.
Those are the ones I've had experience with anyway. It's also been exclusively former mil dudes I've met through work so there's definitely a chance that skews stuff but I think it's relevent to this convo in terms of retired SOF public figures
>SOF
>APD
the only groups that recruit APDs are cartels and organised crime
APDs are guaranteed future friendly fire incidents
>the only groups that recruit APDs are cartels and organised crime
>organised
>not "organized"
You're not American, and I couldn't give less of a fuck what your uninformed opinion on this is lmao
>APDs are guaranteed future friendly fire incidents
Correct lmao pic fucking related
>O’Neil will very likely end up an hero’ing himself, for the above stated reasons.
Nah, death in a drunk driving accident seems much more likely
This. Alcohol is like kryptonite to these burned out CTE retards.
>They’re usually entirely unlikable after they peak and leave their cool guy job, and they lose all of their personal connections because nobody likes being around them.
Actually me and fair. The good news is I stopped caring a long time ago. You have to to do that shit anyway
Seek Christ.
he gives me everything I need and I don't worry
You're aware He commanded you to love others as He loves you, right?
He said that to the Apostles. I don't rank myself that highly.
What was said to the Apostles applies to everyone who follows Christ. If you're a Christian, then you're supposed to be kind and generous and merciful the way Christ is kind and generous and merciful.
I am well loved by Him, you do as you like.
Okay buddy. Enjoy Hell. : )
I think if you keep trying to take Gods place and pronouncing judgements on his behalf maybe you'll be maybe acquainted with it. Still you cultists were always into setting yourself up as God. he says to me he does not know you. make of that what you will
see
My God knows me and loves me as his Son. Best of luck to you on your journeys.
Enjoy not being saved.
Do you think of yourself as God? You are not. In fact seems to me you are far from God but that's your business.
If you are genuinely saved and full of grace, then the good works will come naturally. You will be kind and generous and merciful to those around you because you are filled with the light of Christ.
>You will know them by their fruit.
You have only produced bad fruit.
This is why I think we should have old soldier homes on bases to help people readjust into civilian life, or give them a place to fall back to if their shit gets out of sort. Some guys just need that stability and order.
The guys from my platoon that went to green berets and the rangers I trained with were mostly very normal guys except my old psg who was a total psycho. Seals seem to be more unhinged than the rest. Don't know why.
I think it is the drugs that came with the high operational tempo. Alcohol included. Injuries from too much PT or battle injuries add up. Roids are necesary to keep up with the insane fitness standards and painkillers are needed to keep you going. Uppers are used for long operations and downers to stabilize you. Marihuana to mellow you out. Tobacco and stupid amounts of caffeine are used everyday to stimulate the CNS against the massive fatigue. It is not hafd to see how you can become an unstable junkie like mad man. Performance is what matters and the navy wont ask how do yo do it.
Yeah my psg was roiding hard when he went to selection and the q course so army does the same shit. They're just a bit more humble than the seals. As long as you don't get caught it's all good. Pretty sure the combat controllers from the air force were juicing too.
Machine'll chew up and spit out anyone. It's just easy to lose sight that it's treating a seal as disposable as the jarhead.
They sent a team because a drone strike wouldn't be able to verify it. Also it's really just muslim or anti-american butthurt that would have conniptions about killing Osama or canoeing him. He wasn't Yasser Arafat where he was a political figure as well as a militant. He was an out and out terrorist. Asset or not, the only reason people give a shit is:
>A bloo bloo bloo sovereignty (for some reason A-Ok for Afghanistan or Pakistan to violate American sovereignty by abetting and protecting Osama while he plans a strike but not ok for the US to violate their sovereignty)
>A bloo bloo bloo americans
>A bloo blo bloo treating killing someone like a ra ra soccer score
>They sent a team because a drone strike wouldn't be able to verify it
And yet the Obama admin's primary MO when killing HVTs was drone strikes.
He should go to jail.
>b-but he's a hero!
Don't care. He said the N-word.
Jocko Willink got his brain damage from being used as a battering ram. The other SEALS would hold him horizontally and heave ho his head into doors to break them down
LMAO wtf
Sauce ?
GOOD
to be fair, he has the battering ram looks
That's bullshit, but I believe it. And it'd definitely a GOOD! thing
Operator culture getting more and more pop culture is so funny im here for it. Now people who pretend to be anti-war have to do respect and adore someone who's canoed a child (nothing wrong with that).
Yet another night PrepHole post that's horrifically retarded because his ass would get laughed at for posting it during the day. AKA he's a pussy.
>his ass would get laughed at for posting it during the day. AKA he's a pussy.
NTA, but try not to be an asshurt retard. SEALs have an out of proportion number of retards, liars, and frauds. Marcus Luttrell, and Rob O'Neill probably being the most famous of the asshats. We could do a daily SEAL hate thread and never run out of material.
>Marcus Luttrell, and Rob O'Neill probably being the most famous of the asshats
>leaving out Chris fucking Kyle
Chris Kyle's been dead for like a decade, the only thing people remember about him is his being "sniper dude" and Jesse Ventura's (justified) lawsuit.
out Chris fucking Kyle
How absolutely silly of me. I was trying to think of one more professional SEAL fish story teller, but it slipped.
>he thinks day/k/are would be able to discern a quality post
You have to go back.
>N-word
Why people no longer say old fashioned moron?
>be me
>have dad who was unironically a Navy SEAL who served in both Panama and the Gulf War
>he's actually a nice guy to basically everyone he meets and is a volunteer lifeguard at the local lake
WTF PrepHole?
the tempo of gwot stuff exacerbated everything probably
it was a different time
GWOT SOF bloat and mission creep plus muh troops propaganda has propagated the current culture.
Your dad probably actually did underwater demolition and maritime operations (you know, the specialized tasks the SEALs were founded to do) rather than being one of a shitload of dudes across every branch whose main job was to go into people's houses and kill them while they were asleep, and he probably did it before muh psychopath biker gang aesthetic and sick branding and podcast opportunities after retirement were the reason people went through selection in the first place.
idk what exactly he did because he doesn't like to talk about it. He'd much rather talk about swimming techniques and Magic card games.
I do know that he was involved in that botched airport raid because he got drunk once and lamented about how a friend of his was killed there.
Seals have had a fucked up rep long before GWOT. It just became well known around that time.
This is probably the best take. OG SOF guys did the job for higher reasons. Most people probably didn't even know what a Navy Seal even was, or even SF or fucking Rangers. There was no real fame or fortune to be had. You did it, full well knowing of the risks involved, because you had a calling to it or thought that you could do more than what you were doing for the/a "cause".
Modern SOF have been psyop'd into being irl marvel superheroes. Combine that with the zeitgeist of the last man syndrome of "feel bad for me" and "look how much I've suffered, compared to you!" race to the bottom type of shit and you got yourself a shitstorm of hyper aggressive in the childlike sense retards joining up and having their egos go out of control. Just to get occasionally cockslapped by reality when the enemy doesn't just die while being asleep but actually fight back through ambushes and IED's which leads to horribly fucked up mental states as those egos of supermen get shattered by the fist of reality. If US forces ever get deployed into a combat zone against a competent enemy who has the will to fight and terrain where they can actually protect themselves from constant drone strikes, I have a feeling we are not only going to see mass casualty events that we haven't seen since Korea and Vietnam due to GWOT making everyone lazy and making moves they really shouldn't ever make because they would never get punished by the enemy for doing them. But you will probably see mass casualties and a complete breaking down of US SOF forces who will go in thinking it's another D/A mission just to walk into an enemy complex battle position and get shot at from all sides with no cover and no means for support to help.
Most dudes now, just as then, do it for fun. Finding it fun to do violence effectively is evidence of normal testosterone levels, not a personality disorder. Dudes who did it for recognition are just much more likely to occupy the limelight for obvious reasons.
>Finding it fun to do violence effectively is evidence of normal testosterone levels
Violence in and of itself is normal, men are warlike. Who you do violence to and whether said violence is controlled or uncontrolled are far more important aspects. Most guys I see who are former SOF all give me "I beat my son for not being what I dreamed of while I'm drunk, but it's not my fault" kind of energy.
If you are feeling subject to your testosterone and can't control it, your neocortex failed you.
they weren't anywhere near that unknown, there were movies (that john wayne green beret one was made while the vietnam war was still going on even) and songs and all that going back to studios rushing to make OSS films right after ww2. you're absolutely right that the kind of exposure and the level of it doesn't compare to post-gwot though.
>muh psychopath biker gang aesthetic and sick branding
That shit has permeated every inch of murkan culture by now.
Sounds like your dad was a professional soldier and not a sociopath chasing fame and a free license to kill.
Okay, so he said it. So what? What's wrong with saying it, huh?
>It's another episode of PrepHole seething about SOF
That being Robert kinda does seem full of himself
At least Marky Bis somewhat went away from the spotlight
>Terminal List was real
My fucking HERO
>Say word
>Get cancelled
>Land of the "free"
>Leaving out the violent assault
that was obligatory. not personal. so it doesnt count
The service doesn't make them like that. What you don't understand is that soldiers and operators are just average dumb dudes. You don't have to be smart to clear rooms, you just have to be dumb enough to suffer through tons more abuse than even the regular military for the same amount of pay just to get the title of SF. Not even to mention the immense amount of risk involved that they didn't factor into their cost-benefit analysis. These are retards, and retards are often trashy and will do shit like get drunk often or beat up their spouses.
>Killed countless people
>Takes credit for it
>Allegedly says a word
>Life's over
America worships...
Are there any non religious historical analogies? It really is an interesting cultural phenomenon
Qrd on Chris Kyle and Marcus Luttrell?
>Chris Kyle
Was reportedly the deadliest sniper in American history at 160 confirmed kills. Got caught lying about shooting looters during Hurricane Katrina and beating up ex-Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura for his supposed lack of patriotism. Was killed while administering one of the most ill-advised forms of therapy imaginable (taking a PTSD-afflicted vet to a gun range, I'm not kidding) before either came to light. His death proved to be extremely convenient as it overshadowed the lies.
>Marcus Luttrell
Lone survivor of the botched Operation Red Wings. Wrote a book naturally called Lone Survivor. Has been proven to have at the very least greatly exaggerated the number of Taliban fighters present, is alleged to have engaged in cowardice and fled the battlefield to save himself although virtually no solid proof of the latter claims actually exist.
You forgot the part where Kyle claimed he beat up (or killed I don't remember) some guy at a gas station then told the cops he was a Navy Seal and they let him go.
Meh. O'Neili is a bit of a jerk, but that guard was a pompus twit trying to take him on solo, and probably didn't even have the authority to arrest to begin with.
>twit
Weird thing for an American to say.
I feel like literally killing Osama Bin Laden gives one a n-word pass
Sure, old age gets the n word pass.
They 'literally' put out a doctored photo claiming it was his corpse, then said they did not take him alive, took no other photos or dna evidence, and dumped his burned remains into the ocean.
Then Osama's posse would have given some evidence stating otherwise
Then they would of had to admit he'd been dead for years prior.
Many of his videos were thought to be made after he died.
Low and behind he had no new content for a long time prior to supposedly being iced.
'member when Benazir Bhutto said bin Laden was dead back in 2007 and then she got whacked about a month later?
Yeah. It's better for the world to believe the Americans killed him.
Another win for tiny Korean cock.
>shoot an unarmed old man
>hero
lmao
some unarmed old men need shooting that asshole was one of them.
I agree; everyone associated with the CIA should be killed.
Yes, but doing it still doesn't make you a hero.
Never said it did. No such thing as heros anyway everyones cowardly sooner or later and everyone is stupid sooner or later, its just a job, just do the job.
>defamatory claim with no source
>unironic find yeshua posting
begone vile agent of the demiurge
Holier than thou christians are the most insufferable people on the face of the planet. I recall something about the log in your own eye, gays
Okay, but was he a moron?
Getting drunk and beating up a security guard makes you one by default
black on black violence is dey culture. navy seal? more like moron seal
Western militaries treat their soldiers so badly. Our soldiers even fear life imprisonment for defending America.
Free Bobby Bales unironically. Afghans are subhuman.
Hello everyone I am Osama bin laden I am still alive and well .
What's your favorite Tom & Jerry episode?
What kind of hentai did you have on your pc
Better than having brain damage from posting in anonymous anime image boards from a young age like everyone here
For the love of god disband the seals already, these gays have gotten way too insufferable. Make ANY other special forces unit just take up the work that they do.
So, does he have those droopy eyes from PTSD or something or is he an actual meathead?
I thought SEALs were supposed to be smart or something?
This “droopy eyes” intelligence connection is some interesting folk reasoning I haven’t encountered before, where are you/your family from anon?
You can actually see in someone's eyes if they're smart or not, independently of the physiognomy.
Look as Magnus Carlsen, for example.
He has an actual neanderthal face, but you can see the calculating behind his eyes.
More likely that you can see to some extent how focused they are at a given moment. O’Neill does look depressed or tuned out.
Veterans (only referring to former infantry) are usually stimulant or fentanyl or krokodile (in russia only) addicted loosers.
The shitty goreposters on PrepHole are likely mostly veterans.
Press F to spit on your veterans.
At least they aren't tighters.
Also, you have to be 18 to post here.
I'd take them over anti-war protestors any day, though.
DJ Shipley also has brain damage he was next to a door charge that went off right next to him as well as multiple grenades and bombs. All of these guys are on TRT or HGH and all of them have severe PTSD/paranoia issues (see Shipley calling the cops on his own friend).
I can almost guarantee DJ was just as big of a gay before any brain damage as he was after, maybe just with less inhibitions and a pinch more violence.
Like most of these guys, he is a grade A douche if you actually listen to them.
Like other anons in the thread have said, multiple TBIs plus baseline sociopathy tracks for most of these shitbags
That video is insane and such a great indicator of what many people in this thread have said about these guys coming across like serial killers in normal situations
Imagine publicly filming, editing, uploading, and then selling a line of products all centered around the fact that integrity is gay and retarded.
Imagine being any of the fucking retards paying these dudes for workout routines and motivational speeches about brotherhood on patreon knowing that they did this lol. To say nothing of the gbrs gay drama that followed.
DJ is an asshole. He abandoned sin son and forced his parents (Don and Diane Shipley) to raise him.
The phenomenon has been recognized by modern science as picrel
>Myers-Briggs
>"recognized by modern science"
It was recognized all right. Just not in a positive way.
>shit meyers briggs type confirmed
Literally me
are you really taking advice from a society where "men" would get henpecked by their own twink slave boywives?
we use their 7 day week too (we just renamed tuesday thru friday)
the 7 day week goes all the way back to sumeria
much like the British conquering the entire world to get away from British women the Romans conquered europe and the near east to get away from Giton henpecking them over their lack of respect for their elders and other infractions that would anger a virtuous roman boywife.
>much like the British conquering the entire world to get away from British women
>tfw you will never sail the unknown world in search of Hispanices and exotic dicky
why even live
Thailand maybe. I wouldn’t touch sputh america as there’s a legitimate chance you might end up getting kidnapped or CARTEL’d
Theo Von said he went to a party and they said "Rob O'Neil is going to be here" people were "who's that?" "He's the guy who killed Bin Laden" He said everyone was kinda somber when he kicks the door in "ROB O'NEIL HERE!!! I KILLED BIN LADEN!!!" I guess he brags about it a little to much now.
Again the funniest thing about it is that he didn't kill bin laden lol.
What a pathetic fucker
Why do SEALs tend to have thin necks but other SOF operators have thick necks?
look up something called focal length
Why did a moron think he can beat an elite SEAL, even if he was drunk and out of shape baka
He fought for his country, and the VA wouldn't even give him an N pass? Disgraceful.
So? Now he is still a common thug, fuck him.