Air rifles are handy for prepping:

Can get thousands of rounds for pennies
Modern ones are good enough for rabbits
Better than nothing

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ok

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    true, though springers are quite heavy - we're talking 5+ kg without glass.

    Good for backyard practice on the cheap - you get about 1000 pellets for the price of a single box of 9mm.

    16J (12 fpe) air rifle in .177 with H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme (pic related) will devastate rabbits, and top of the line springers (AA Tx200, Pro Sport, HW97k, Walther LGV/LGU) can reliably brain the little buggers at 45 yards (we're talking penny grouping - I've been to competitions where some shots were 0.6 MOA difficulty).

    Regular .177 pellets (around 8 grains of lead) are great for squirrels, pidgeons, and rats, and it can be used for ratting indoors, where even .22lr is too Hispanicy.

    It's no substitute for a real gun, but definetely has a place.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"springers are 11lb+ without a scope"
      >gamo swarm (gas-piston, admittedly) is 5.65 pounds and includes admittedly chintzy scope
      what did he mean by this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        AA tx200 mk3 is 3.9 kg. Add a proper hamster, and adjustable butt pad, and you're pushing 5kg (6 with glass).

        Light air rifles do exist (AA s200 for example), but PCP guns require a separate air source, or a fuckheavy pump to keep running.

        Cheap springers with polymer stocks are only good for killing scopes. You can take glass that's rated for 7mm WMR, put it on a cheap chink springer, and it will kill the scope - all because of double recoil, and vibrations.

        Now, get one of the HFT setups with custom stocks, and again - you're looking at 5-6 kg.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Add a proper hamster
          A what?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this. It allows you to get a lower grip with your supporting hand. HFT regulations specify that the hamster can be no more than 15cm lower than bore axis, for Field Target you can go as low as you like, and the hamster is most often placed on the knee/thigh, since FT guys usually shoot sitting (except the few forced positions on the course).

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, it's a silly name for a fore-end riser. Got it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Brits came up with it. Of course it's a silly name.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Cheap springers with polymer stocks are only good for killing scopes.
          The swarm is not a springer, anon. But yes, the worst part of break barrels is the retarded shit you have to go through for scopes. Mine has been fine so far, though. Their older springers were hell on scopes and the recoil was quite crazy. Also, I doubt most are putting a hamster on their hunting rifle; maybe one of those adjustable butt pads.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >though springers are quite heavy
      there are many pros and cons between springies and gas. gas is much quieter than spring, I've had the case where i've popped off 3 rabbits, one after the other, because the shot is so quiet, they all stick their heads up in surprise 'what the fuck was that'. although gas maintenance is much more complicated and fiddly over spring, and generally cheaper.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, they are heavy. It probably depends on the gun, but 11lb (5kg) seems heavy even for a springer. My Diana 34 weighs 7lb (3kg) and almost 9lb (4kg) with a scope.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The argument thrown around here against air guns is "MUH KILLIN BULLET!!!", but sometimes you don't want to kill things. That's where the air rifle comes in handy when the threat is obnoxious gypsies, dogs or poles sneaking through your backyard in search of something. Pop open a window, shoot the fags out of your backyard and the police cannot charge you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      power has traditionally been a weakness of airguns but that is really changing. I think there's 3 really important recent developments to take note of:
      1) More than 10 years ago, IIRC, you started getting real big-bore air guns like the Airforce Texan. This is not a very refined design so it's not very efficient when it comes to air consumption but it does deliver power equal to modern pistol calibers like 9mm or 45.
      2) Airguns have been super precise for a long time. But now the super precise guns are getting powerful enough to match .22LR standard velocity in a .22 airgun, or 140ish ft-lb out of a .35 cal....and are doing that at 1/2 MOA. For example, FX Impact M3.
      3) Previously with airguns you had a choice between single-shots, which were often accurate and powerful, and semi-autos, which were usually toy-grade power and accuracy. Now there are full-on semiautos--not just repeaters--with target level accuracy and sufficient power to hunt with, like the Edgun Leshiy 2.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the police cannot charge you
      Pretty sure they can. Assault is assault.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get what you're saying but
      >le cops cant do anything
      is always bullshit. Cops can and will haul you off to jail for literally anything (or even nothing at all)

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Air rifles are handy for prepping
    Or a less faggy use case, killing pests in your yard if you live within city limits

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Or a less faggy use case, killing pests in your yard if you live within city limits
      Gotta be careful of local laws. Some places define firearm by the velocity of the projectile, and some air rifles qualify. Same for some crossbows.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >want a PCP airgun
    >also want to be able to travel by motorcycle rather than needing to use my car to go to the range
    >hand pumps are comparable size/weight to a bullpup rifle
    fugg

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there PCP air rifles with quick swappable barrels and tuning presets for different tasks? For example, a .177 barrel for extra cheap plinking with ammo you can get at walmart and tons of shots per fill that could even be dialed down to shoot indoors, a .22-.25 barrel for small game, and a larger .30 barrel for when want the power that a .22 rifle can bring to the table. From my reading, the biggest problem with more powerful airguns that can start matching any .22 loading other than .22CB in power is that the ammo stops being available locally and starts matching current .22lr prices or coming so close to it that you could never hope to break even.

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