After witnessing the events of the past two years, I'm beginning to see the writing on the wall. That being that things are beginning to circle the drain, and we haven't seen the worst of it yet. That being said, I am concerned for the safety of myself and the people around me. I'd like to be skilled with firearms and fieldcraft, so that in the event that things take a dramatic turn for the worst, I have the skills needed to survive. What would be an effective strategy at gaining those skills? I don't really have access to military/militia type training or anything. I've got access to some flat land and a few targets and that's all. What can I do to train effectively? I'm between 18 & 22 yo, so I'd appreciate cost-effective solutions. Am I at a big disadvantage by not having military training? USA btw, if it needed to be said.
>USA btw
Nice try Ivan.
Reading books would be a good start. It would lay the groundwork of knowledge and serve as a beginning of your skill development. Read the books and then use your land to exercise it in a practical environment. Next, do some drills with the targets you have. Close range, medium, and get as long as you can with the calibers you have confidently. Always practice, drill drill drill until you're confident and have consistency.
make a wooden spoon get used to holding a knife.
>14th century technology
You would make a perfect leader for the Russian MIC.
you understand most people are uncomfortable working with a knife.
Making things out of wood is a great skill to have.
not everything has to be about russia anon
Putler lives inside your head rent fricking free lmao
https://archived.moe/diy/thread/1833050/#q1850386
Boob spoon.
"They say he carved it...from a bigger spoon"
If you ever feel scared about the future go read the Wikipedia article with the list of times the world was supposed to end.
Most people eventually feel like that at some point. We want to feel relevant and we can't imagine that we live in a somewhat irrelevant point in time but in the end all signs point to us being a bit of drama queens.
Go live your life and tackle your problems as they emerge and be prepared to deal with things that may or may not happen, but don't break your head over it.
Utterly stupid advice that stinks of plebbitor.
Ok just live in fear you utter moron
>people who don’t use confirmation bias as a comfort blanket are morons
Nice projection. I don’t live in fear. I’m exhilarated by the current shit state of the west and the acceleration that is going on. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the fragility of not only society but the entire planet. Unlike you I am not afflicted with a feeble intellect, and so can comprehend such things without having an existential crisis.
Keep on burying your head in the sand though. Sincerely.
>current shit state of the west
Compared to what? Which geopolitical sphere is doing better, hell which other sphere is not in deep shit?
Chinese housing bubble just burst, having to deploy tanks so protect banks.
Russia can't stop hitting itself in every metric, got so bad they stopped publishing economic data.
Africa is piss poor with barely any natural resources.
Turkey is trying to reinforce dictatorial powers during record inflation.
Brazil politicians are being openly killed.
Meanwhile, west (USA, EU) are returning to pre-covid levels. I get that you're angry and want to stick it to the system, but you're a fan of losers and a moron.
>it’s all going to shit which means we’re ok
You’re very stupid. And no, Germany’s economy is still fricked. Supermarket shelves are bare as certain goods are no longer profitable and a lot of factories are reducing output. Meanwhile countries are not have foundational crises of their institutions, they’ll keep plodding on as usual.
>Supermarket shelves are bare
Seek help, you're so fricked in the head you perpetually taste dick.
>is an npc
>is obsessed with homosexualry and projects it
It’s all so tiresome.
https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/handel-konsumgueter/kelloggs-coca-cola-ritter-sport-prei-streit-eskaliert-diese-marken-verschwinden-aus-den-supermarktregalen/28752620.html
OH NO NOT MUH PEPSI
WHAT WILL WE DO WITHOUT SNICKERS
>says shelves aren’t bare due to inflation
>moves the goalposts once btfo
A true plebbitor
I'm not that guy tho.
Anyway, shelves aren't bare due to inflation but rather due to corporate disputes over price gouging. If you'd actually read that article you linked maybe you'd know that. Fun fact, Mars Inc has nearly doubled their profit margins in the past year.
Yeah, the Soviets were big on the "there are no shortages, just capitalist sabotage" thing shortly before they collapsed entirely too
>Germany is now Soviet Russia
morono
Is this bait or what? Why do you misrepresent every godamn thing said to you?
moron
So you're just in the "LA LA LA I DON'T LIKE THIS THREAD SO I'M GOING TO SPAM IT UNTIL IT GOES AWAY" jerkoff phase now?
moron
I think we broke it.
No moron
Are you the nazi-troony israelite? I seem to remember he would have meltdowns too.
>nazi troony israelite
(im trans and israeli btw)
Made me chuckle
>t. Didn’t read beyond the first paragraph
Yup, it’s a moron alright.
moron
>pretends he can read German
>pretends he reads articles in full
>reveals that he can’t
>but other posters are morons
Bizarre.
moron
Thanks for the laugh, I hope you get better.
>projects the fact it is ill onto others
moron
Just live in fear moron
Make me
SHUT IT DOWN
Live in fear moron
>be as scared as me to the point of burying your head in the sand
No.
Live in fear moron
Make me, israelite.
moron
>I'm between 18 & 22 yo
Did you forget how old you are
No, I'd just rather not overshare. It's a personal policy
You make it sound like anyone here has any capability to determine who you are, you literally don't even have a name or face to attach to the post. Keep up with your homosexualry and I will backtrace your IP.
He's probably that schizo who constantly derails threads and thinks he's being gangstalked by discord trannies and Daydream, or a different schizo with the same issues.
>CONSEQUENCES
>WILL NEVER
>BE
>THE SAME
Shooty shooty somewhat important. Learn grow food with hand tools, pump water, raise animal to assist in labor. Make friend with neighbors who can provide valuable skill. Woodworking, the medical, masonry, metal forging etc. Much more important. 6 month supply of food in case bad harvest at all time. Go, learn, be useful.
>Am I at a big disadvantage by not having military training
Not at all. Your goal is survival. You're not kicking in doors and taking out high value targets. By all means, learn to shoot, get in shape, take a first aid course, but remember, what the military trains for and what you are training for are two different things. Doesn't matter how good your guns and gear are if you starve to death or collapse due to heatstroke because you can't run a mile.
40-something here
Listen here you little shit
This is not the first time shit looks like it's about to kick off
Go back to school & live your life
Get a job so you can afford guns and have fun shooting them
If you're seriously going to become a prepper, be smart about it and go join some farming community, get set up where you can do subsistence farming with other folks who know how to work with their hands
The guns/training part is the least significant in the scenarios you are imagining, they're just tools to keep random wanderers out of your hair
2022: After witnessing the events of the past two years, I'm beginning to see the writing on the wall. That being that things are beginning to circle the drain,
1916: After witnessing the events of the past two years, I'm beginning to see the writing on the wall. That being that things are beginning to go breasts up dolally,
1500: After witnessing the events of the past two years, I'm beginning to see the writing on the wall. That these be the end times...
999 AD: These be end times...
-100,000 BC: Ugh, bad time now. World go away....
Quitcher whining, snowflake. The scary part isn't that the world is ending; it's that this is merely the end of the beginning.
Why the frick is your second example that time 30 million people killed each other in the mud, another 50 million people died of a plague and half the world's empires collapsed never to be seen again
How fricking moronic are you to use THAT as a "nothing ever happens" example oh my fricking god
>ww1 started in 1916
you're moronic and not only did all of the countries involved rebuild in 20 years, all of those countries have the highest standards of living in the world in 2022
nothing changed forever in the 20th century except for the holocaust and I bet you don't believe that happened.
>ww1 started in 1916
How did you get THAT from my po-
You know what? Never mind. Frick you. Frick you, homosexual. Shut the frick up forever.
>nothing changed forever in the 20th century
Most intelligent /misc/ poster
>nothing changed forever in the 20th century except for the holocaust
Black folk post on k too?
I want to believe you're typing this from Russia, because that would make it so much funnier.
Stupid fricking israelite
>nothing change forever except muh holocaust
Yeah that event that shows zero effect of the hook nosed tribe’s population was really significant. Far more significant that the use of nuclear weapons or the rape of germany. Idiot.
wahahaha!
frick ya mudda!
hahaha!
No, you missed my point.
My point -- just you don't miss it this time -- is this:
Doomposting is a waste of everyones time; it is never the end times. Suck it up and walk it off, soldier. OP's lame and gay attempt to demoralize everyone is merely irritating, but isn't anything new.
The present is exhilarating and fun, and way less shitty than, for explicit examples: 1916, 1500, 999ad and fricking caveman times.
So, OP is a whiny ingrate. 2022 might not be as good as 2015, but its still kinda kickass and I'm enjoying it. (and I'm not even on E or weed right now.)
Go back.
That 1916 lol. My great-grandfather only survived the purges because his Kulak parents threw him out of a moving train to escape being sent to the gulags. That era was the end of the world for millions. Then the Great Patriotic War was the rens for millions more. Then the collapse was the end for more.
The best thing to have now is many concealable handguns and addiction items, like vodka, tobacco, and drugs. Speaking from my experience in 90s Russia, they'll be worth more in trade than most rifles or israeliteelry.
9/11 was the last actual happening.
Writing on the wall? Jim Morrison already told us my guy.
>The futures uncertain and the end is always near.
The part that you forgot is.
>let it roll.
Ohh. How profound. Piss on that hippie shit. Music is not serious. It's idle good fun but intensely appealing to inferior (audience) minds eager to read into it.
Artistic expression is literally the only thing separating humans from other animals.
When one expresses a distaste for the arts, especially music, that is one of the surest indicators that they are a lesser, semi-sentient being. What you are replying to is probably some kind of man-shaped insectoid like a Chinaman, or possibly even an A.I. (Advanced Indian)
Ok yeah, music: one of man's most complex forms of communication, is merely for simpletons. My mistake. Or could it be that you don't recognize the power of music because you're autistic?
Music is mere sonic masturbation into which artgays add what is not intrinsic. Music is only sound, never intellectually profound.
Highly intelligent people may produce complex music but it's still just complex comfy noise. Of course music has power, like an orgasm, mindless sensual power. (Sex is not intellectual either.)
The Doors were not profound (I enjoyed most of their music and have all their major albums since they came out). Rock and roll is a Bacchanalia, that is all and Morrison was rather a fan of Bacchus, but the mind which considers pop culture profound is oversocialized and weak.
Please explain to us what is intellectually profound anon
>It's just sound, thus devoid of any intellectual value
what kind of logic even is this?
The words you're typing are just symbols on a screen. Sometimes those symbols can coalesce to form intellectual and profound messages, but nothing you've posted is either. Please go back to school, you obviously flunked out.
homosexual music for homosexuals
Jim got more pussy than anyone alive today. He was literally known as a "sex symbol."
i hope you aren't a zoomlet and actually some old cringe frick posting about how cool he was for getting a lot of pussy
I'm probably older than your dad.
there's actually a good chance of that. he didn't live very long. i'm older than he was.
Hey sorry to hear that man. Wasn't my aim to bring up your dad or your loss—simply a way of saying that I'm old.
Cringe plebbitor
I've been coming to /k/ longer than you I guarantee it. In fact, I remember when it was mostly hunting, mosins, and reloading. It was a bit friendlier too. The buttholes were over in /b/. Well, still are I suppose.
>it was
the world was more friendly. it isn't just this board or site that is turning grouchy
Well I'm not. Even when I insult people here, it's pretty mild.
>doesn’t deny being a plebbitor
That’s decent of you. Go back.
I been here since 06, it wasn't more friendly, it just didnt have as many morons and trannies.
no hard feelings, fren. he's been dead for longer than most people here have been alive. and plus, i have zero memories of him, so i hardly understand what i've missed.
>He was literally known as a "sex symbol."
If you had asked him he would've said his occupation was "Erotic Politician"
Never were truer words spoken.
I'm a gay and Jim Morrison talks about his dick way too much for my taste. Seriously, every song is somehow about his dick. I'm listening to the first half of a Doors song, getting really into it and then he starts freaking out and yelling "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOU"
Yeah Jim Morrison was a pretentious, mentally ill weirdo, no two ways about it. Great voice though.
Such are the people who make good art. They're usually weird jerks.
Normal people don't make good music.
It made you feel something. You had to turn it off because you're afraid of feeling uncomfortable.
I'm a fan of the Doors on a good day, I even fricked my first girlfriend to the Doors, it's just annoying that every song is like that.
>cringe doomerism
literally the safest, most stable time period to ever be alive. monke screeching nooks is a complete farce. stop buying into this shit and literally touch grass
>monke screeching nooks is a complete farce.
Utterly true.
Attached vid related.
> literally the safest, most stable time period to ever be alive.
You’re not very intelligent. As systems become more complex they become more likely to fail. Hopefully that’s simple enough for you to understand.
>As systems become more complex they become more likely to fail.
moron
>flood wipes out a large portion of the local farmers crops
>baker cannot make bread
>brewer cannot make beer
>blacksmith gets sick due to malnutrition and dies
>farmers cannot have tools repaired for next year
>Village collapses
Whole families and towns were wiped out by a bad season under simple systems. Some of what makes complex systems complex is redundancy that keeps total collapses from happening.
>demonstrates how a complexity of a system increases the resultant effects
>n-no you’re the moron because complexity of systems always have increased redundancy
>offers no counter example
>flounces away
Kek. At least you won’t reproduce. Also, go back.
Literally already have kids.
If you're so worried about a collapse, why not just rope now?
This, just have a nice day if everything is so awful you doomer cucks
Who said anything about being worried? Your “furbabies” aren’t children. As I said, thankfully you won’t reproduce.
moron
This seething is tripping my Schizo-kun detector.
Is this you?
>projects his seething onto others
No, I don’t own a gas mask or make muslim hand gestures.
moron
Wait, this is all the same guy?
You've got a wife and kids and yet you're genuinely spending three consecutive hours of a Thursday evening filling out CAPTCHAs to type the same word over and over again?
>filling out CAPTCHAs
not him but
>Verification not required.
I'm only 505 and 437 and
, but OP is a moron and doomers should just rope. You won't magically be a useful individual in the world post SHTF if you aren't one now.
Also, who solves their own captcha?
You’re not nearly as intelligent as you think you are. Or pretend to think you are. I doubt you’ve truly managed to convince yourself you’re anything but a midwit.
Assuming a stance which puts you outside or above the discussion at hand is a common coping strategy for such people. This way they don’t have to counter points raised against their own worldview, in turn they don’t have to confront the fact that they can’t. It’s why we see poor reasoning with puddle depth thought used in your posts and an inability to reply.
moron
Are you new? When I asked him if he was the nazi-troony israelite poster it was a genuine question. That poster used to 1) spam any thread tangentially related to Germany in WWII with photos of goofing soldiers cross dressing from a click bait article and 2)have melt downs and spam threads with an insult (usually moron) when any currently popular anti-semitic joke/meme was used. ITT it seems that goyslop was what set him off.
It as if armatard hard a israeli cousin who was so pathetic even armatard bullied him, and this is the result.
moron
>schizophrenic has invented a complex web of actors on an anonymous image board known for trolling anyone stupid enough to take the bait.
Many such cases.
>armatard doesn’t exist
>nazi troony spammer doesn’t exist
We’re reaching schizo projection never before thought possible
holy shit are you that guy that constantly goes nuts and accuses people of being Armatard?
Nope.
That guy's here too? He fricking obliterates PrepHole every single day, he'll make thirty threads if anyone makes one thread insulting Sasha Baron Cohen or Harvey Weinstein
He seems to prefer PrepHole but I’m pretty sure he started out here. He’s not been here for a while but pops back up now and again. The last time I saw him spamming his folder people were saying they thought he died and were asking him how he’s doing, it’s been so long etc which seemed to annoy him no end because he fricked off from that thread pretty quickly.
actually this is what 3/4 of the board looks like
What other things to prepare for adversity are you proficient at or do you imagine disruptive times will only call for a bugout bag and firearms?
You and others cannot believe that the recurring fantasy of an apocalypse is ingrained in Western culture.
First move, don't fricking live where S will HTF. You don't need to live in a city or jogger zone so move if you haven't. No excuses because I did it and I'm not special.
Are you economically successful with ample reserves of LAND (in more than one location if practical),TOOLS, EQUIPMENT and the ability to repair and maintain everything you own? I am and that isn't hard either so do it.
Do you have skills and are you constantly expanding them or are you just young and silly? Everything young people imagine they "think" is trash because they're unformed bags of hormones. Your worst problem is your youth because it makes you intellectually vulnerable and you don't understand why.
Career, money, skills, equipment, DIY mastery, ability to raise livestock all are useful if S never HTF (real disruptions are mostly short term and economic).
Ignore schizos. Their "the end is nigh" drivel is for the unintelligent. The intelligent lead carefully PLANNED, VERSATILE lives to which "prepping" is just ordinary behaviour. You want bangsticks to get a feeling of agency but after you trade them for food you may wish you'd put the effort into being a man.
Specialization really is for insects.
Try Doomer optimism
i stopped carrying about getting those skills. this country is fricked and i don't want to save what it has become. i don't particularly want to stick around for that long if there is a collapse, either. I'm fine with being a lootbox or livestreamer if we're actually lucky enough to actually get a collapse. we probably won't even be that lucky though.
frick america
frick americans
t.not an ivan. in waukesha and still want to meet up and hurt someone
Good. You're hilarious and like most weak-minded trailer trash (even without the trailer, it's a state of mind) believe your credulous adoption of other peoples memes to be insight. You are what you deserve to be,
When are the glowBlack folk going to frick off from this board
It's fricking amazing how Biden has a 20% approval rating in the real world but he's got a 90% approval rating on this fricking gun board
Stop noticing things.
>weak-minded trailer trash
i'm not in really any sense of the word really. family built most of brookfield and our name is on several hospital wings. business is multiple states. homes in multiple states. i'd assume there would be a lot of wisconsinites who would actually be able to recognize our vehicles. they're a very neat shade of blue.
>what you deserve to be
i have the job i dreamed of having as a kid
frick america
frick americans
does anyone want to meet up for a ponza today?
>you can turn that piece of burnt toast back into its pre-toasted form. don't be a defeatist
TWO WEEKS
THE WORLD WILL END IN TWO WEEKS BRO!!!
>and fieldcraft
If you actually care about yourself and others, you would just be buying rice rather than larping.
It's not worth it anon, dedicating your life to preparing for something that may never come is a fools errand. Enjoy yourself, live life to the fullest, and if you really insist upon doomposting then learn just enough that you can go out in a glorious shiny bang when it all comes down.
Tl;dr frick the future, party hard
In all seriousness, learn how to homebrew beer and purify water. Those will be the most valuable things to trade after a collapse. After SHTF keep a low profile and don't go around getting in fights or letting people know where you live.
Dude the war in Ukraine wasn’t some freak accident. Everyone who knows anything about geopolitics knew it was inevitable. Or at least it was much more likely to happen at some point rather than never.
You should always try to prepare for some bad shit, the thing is though that bad shit is just going to happen.
People die, ideas die, planets die, stars die. Everything begins and ends at some point. This has so far been the most "peaceful" era in Human history and we've had X number of variosu proxy wars and near outright wars. That's not going to stop anytime soon, it's a matter of when not if.
Do you not have some sort of part-time army in the US?
Getting that sort of training is why I joined the Army Reserve.
this book
https://pdfcoffee.com/permaculture-a-designers-manual-bill-mollisonpdf-pdf-free.html
idk if the link is good, scan it.
my dad is a royal marine commando, highly regarded. still took the covid vaccine. military training is clearly utter bollocks if it doesn't drill in basic threat recognition. if you are vaxxed and trying to prep there is no point.
What, is Bill Gates going to flip the kill switch and melt everyone who owns a gun?
there's no need for a kill switch, the LNPs & mRNA are lethal enough. no refunds cowboy, if you are prepped best give your shit to your nearest and dearest pureblood. you failed the test
Source: I made it up
You’re aware that a leading cardiologist in the UK estimates that the serious complications from mRNA gene therapy is 1 in 800. He was supposed to brief parliament today but obvious events prevented that.
Your dad is a homosexual who enjoys contact with fluids of an unknown origin from other men
s will never htf, you'll be falling into the same trap many here do - spending a ton of your money on shit that will never be useful to you. Buy guns and learn things for yourself and dont concern yourself with world events. Things have always seemed like shit, always seemed to be on the edge of collapse, but it never does. You're safe from whatever world ending scenario you have in your head. Life your life, relax.
It’s essentially just an outlet for their obsessive-compulsive behavior, I’m sure there’s more than a few people here that have closets filled with dry rotted gas masks and surplus military equipment that they’re just sure they’ll use next year
> s will never htf
>there have never been events in history that wiped out other life
>there have never been events that threatened humanities survival
>the younger dryas never happened
>the carrington event never happened
>volcanoes never erupt
>global wars never occur
>deadly (unlike covid) pandemics have never occurred
>asteroids and comets never impact earth
>mars never experienced nuclear war
>we are invulnerable to everything because…. reasons
You can consume all the goyslop and propaganda you want. Don’t try to inflict your stupidity on to others.
>goyslop
moron ALERT
You're to late to the game. RIP in peace.
I honestly cant believe there was a time when I was considering suicide.
This ride has gotten so wild in the past few years, I just have to stick around and see what happens next
same but without the killing myself part. Im no longer an active participant in this world, im just along for the ride
Why do so many Americans feel that if a big war starts they need to go into the woods? Why can’t we get together like every other time and fight? The frick is wrong with you completely partisan homosexuals?
Because they’re moronic and have obsessive-compulsive disorders that have latched into the concept, and it’s not a lot of Americans
>I'm between 18 & 22 yo, so I'd appreciate cost-effective solutions
The most cost effective solution I can offer you is to sit down and wait for the doomer I side you to starve out. And buy cool guns in the meantime.
>After witnessing the events of the past two years, I'm beginning to see the writing on the wall. That being that things are beginning to circle the drain, and we haven't seen the worst of it yet.
I've seen shit like this posted on /misc/ and /k/ since at least 2014 and every fricking year you fricks are wrong
>things haven't continuously gotten worse since 2014
??
???
Just go have a nice day
You don't even know what you're sperging out about do you?
moron
>civil war boogaloo in 2 weeks
Bro its ok to like shooting guns but just treat it as a hobby man, your fabled boogaloo isnt gonna fricking happen
I think Ukraine unironically improved post quality.
Terrible bait
frick you
Only the jannies can save your precious doomer fantasies
>he's really just sitting there filling out CAPTCHAs for an actual hour IRL to do this
>I'm beginning to see the writing on the wall
What writing? That "they" have you thinking the entire world exists behind a screen and the people behind the algorithms have disproportionate amount of influence if not out right control over most people? If so, yeah you're right. But people are becoming painfully aware that they have become shells of what they could be. Try to be optimistic about the future.
As for firearms, I can't really attest much to professional training. I've had a good course before, but a lot of them just exist for people to get a CCP, and don't really try to teach anything. If I were trying to get actual professional training I would expect to go to a few different places in hopes of finding something worth the time and money.
But I don't think anyone is going to argue that dryfiring, reloading, and actually shooting is the best way to improve. The way I look at is, if have to use your gun and you are familiar with your weapon, your mind will fill the gaps between your training and the situation you find yourself in. Train with that in mind.
As for fieldcraft, I can't help but feel it's kind of overrated. It's not a bad skill to have, but 90% of it is just being clever with what you have and seeing other people's tricks. You should know how to start a fire though, there's more to it than people who never go in the woods think. Camping is by far the best way to learn. I don't recommend going alone if it's your fist time but if you absolutely have to make sure people know where you're going and that you plan on coming back the next day, camp near your car (or in your backyard), bring more water than you think you need, and pack MUCH warmer than you think you need to.
>Am I at a big disadvantage by not having military training?
no
Also I don't think keeping about 100$ worth of dried food, firewood, and water treatment is unreasonable.
Just move to Austin or Denver and get laid and make some liberal friends and don’t follow laws you don’t like.