Adding Patriot to the list of god tier US made weaponry. What an absolute W for the US.
Adding Patriot to the list of god tier US made weaponry. What an absolute W for the US.
Adding Patriot to the list of god tier US made weaponry. What an absolute W for the US.
Kinda cool, but what scares me is its a boomer generation achievement and i doubt zoomers and world around them is build to do the same.
I hope you guys don't get stuck in 90s era as soviets did with 60s tech.
90s era patriot couldn't even hit SCUDs lmao
Boomer hardware, zoomers software, name a more iconic duo
Zoomers don't even understand how the apps in their phones work.
Amazing come back, you showed him with that incredibly generic insult
>name a more iconic duo
boomers and overestimating their own importance.
They could, but the software was not designed to be used the way it was used in Iraq. And the software was revised fairly quickly.
The proximity fuse was too slow to intercept SCUD, the delay would cause it to explode aft of the warhead, allowing it to still hit the ground.
you just pulled that straight out of your ass
No I didn't. It's the whole reason they made the PAC-2 GEM series.
http://www.astronautix.com/p/patriot.html
Nta, but see picrel.
Good thing it’s not the 90’s anymore then.
>I hope you guys don't get stuck in 90s era as soviets did with 60s tech.
We have machines that converse and write poetry now. They have been named 'artificial intelligence'
>falling for the cleverbot meme
lol
You missed my point
1)A they are clever
b)We already had them in the 90s it is just Moores law caught up
Try it for anything even slightly technical and enjoy the nonsensical gibberish produced by the clever auto complete.
>inb4 gpt N will fix this
The joke is on you, chatgpt does my assignments and I study CompSci
I only fix them a little since it doesn't always click
>a kid cheating with homework
I am actually impressed.
>Moores law
what a memer
moron, the PAC-3 MSE isn't boomer tech. The fuck are you smoking?
>boomer generation achievement
It was an achievement of actual rocket scientists.
Lot of boomers who were not developing missile defense systems.
Lot of zoomers who are very smart and passionate to be engineers and scientists.
The other countries say we are dumb all the time.
But they send their best and brightest students to the United States of America, which has the top universities in the world, to seek a better life.
Which is why we consistently have the most advanced weapons technology. However, weapons aren't everything, there are also numbers and tactics.
The Soviets in WWII were pretty rag tag compared to the shock and awe Americans, but both fought the nazis, and the Soviets just employed human wave attacks. This is what Putin is trying to do in Ukraine, for very different reasons, and it's pissing off a lot of Russian people who are no longer under Soviet rule. Putin is not immortal, nations outlive their leaders.
As an engineer, the most recent couple of crops of new grads I’ve worked with have been shockingly creative problem solvers, if a bit work avoidant. I have no doubts they’ll do great things
Gen Xers are the ones mostly working on it now though. You can thank the people who listened to The Police as a teen for todays W
>Waaaaaa! I'm old!
ftfy
>old good new bad
The Day of the Pillow is coming.
Houses will be affordable again.
>Houses will be affordable again
Lmao no they won't. More people=more demand and land is a finite resource.
Yet S300 series (400, 500, 600 future) is most advanced system in the world while also cheap, it is the best system. Patriot meant failure in Iraq:
Throughout the war, Patriot missiles attempted engagement of over 40 hostile ballistic missiles. The success of these engagements, and in particular how many of them were real targets, is still controversial. Postwar video analysis of presumed interceptions by MIT professor Theodore Postol suggests that no Scud was actually hit...
>BUT WHAT ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO
Prof. Postol actually posits that we can not determine if the SCUDs were hit or not. The fact is that the Patriots fired on the SCUDs and the SCUDs never reached their targets. Everything else is supposition.
>is most advanced system in the world while also cheap
With one exception, they're shit.
which is why turkey immediately started working on their own anti air system right after buying the most advanced hyper mega S400 s
To be honest it could be similar to how China bought Su-27 to steal the tech and build their own versions.
Doesn't necessarily mean that the system is shit, just that they want to be independent from Russia
>knowingly buy a system that doesn't work
>lose access to systems that do work because of it
>oh well, lets copy the technology anyway
only in Turkey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even Russian weapon wants to kill itself.
Many such cases. Sad!
>talk shit
>forgets the hilarious failures of the patriot in saudi arabia
https://twitter.com/SonKaleTurkiye2/status/978010411491561478
https://twitter.com/tongchuanjun/status/978115868096831489
https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/978018472050425856
>uno reverse card
Reminds me of that time an SRAAM demonstrated its maneuverability during testing by hitting the launching aircraft
Yeah, old ass PAC-2s from the early 90s. What next, you going to start screaming MUH PATRIOT IN THE GULF WAR!?
Already did lmao
>Yeah, old ass PAC-2
>i-i-its just PAC-2...
>PAC-3 is way cooler I tell you!
>a-a-also bad operators...
LMAO
>pac2's
wait usa paid raytheon to downgrade their systems to pac 2 before sending them ?
what a cope
>You see it also works as a surface to surface missile, usually you have to pay double for that
>failures
>post the same video from 2 different angles, and then a successful interception
Why are you like this?
>and then a successful interception
min engagement distance is 1km for the pac 3s..........
Min engagement distance isn't defined on a piece of paper, just how steely your balls are, gay.................
yes it is because they want to avoid debris raining down on them you idiot
this isnt a pantsir with a tiny tinee missile
>because they
sounds more like a "you" problem to me
>0 meters interception
>proximity fuse blasts everything above and below
>system gets fucked
>NO NO I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
That wasn't a PAC-3, though. It was a PAC-2.
KEEP THE CAMERA ON TARGET YOU COWARD
pussy didn't wanna die, baka.
>S300 series (400, 500, 600 future) is most advanced system in the world
>most advanced system in the world
He doesn't know
>can’t shoot down cruise missiles
>surely it shot down hypersonic
Entirely sure your cope about cruise missiles will be speed and flight profile
>but whatabout Iraq
bro, does you honestly think that the Patriot system hasn't been updated in three decades?
>I hope you guys don't get stuck in 90s era as soviets did with 60s tech.
look at the M1A1 from 1991
then look at the M1A2 SEP4 from 2020
its an insane leap in capability thats greater than between it and the baseline M1
The reality is that the US "loses wars" because they don't feel like winning too hard unless they have a moral cause the majority of the population feels justified like in WWII.
Yes they are and you can’t prove otherwise. That’s what makes this so fun
The supposed nosecone isn't even the same shape, cmon dude, give your brain a chance.
No I don’t. I admit it’s fun watching you get upset about a Patriot shooting down a hypersonic.
Turd world russia simps: post hands
Patriot haters: apologize
Fellow burgers: stay rad
It was confirmed real. That’s why people are so impressed
its already known the first picture to be from a russian kalibr
which make sense since the diameter of that thing is small
>this much seethe with no attempt at disproving it
this is how I know its real and russhit is exactly that
What is it, then? Give exact missile name, please.
Do not believe a single piece of news that benefits the american military industrial complex without overwhelming evidence supporting it
This. It’s how we confirmed GMLRS to be so effective
Exactly,with HIMARS and similar there have been many reports from Ukrainians about useful it is and from Russians about how dangerous it is.
Nothing so far on patriot or switchblade
Patriot got a bunch of missiles last week and a hypersonic last night. Feels great that she’s finally vindicated
Nope there's not been a single confirmation of even mention of patriot shooting down any missiles
Just social media conjecture you have chosen to believe
No they posted a picture of the intercepted Russian hypersonic that didn’t exist yesterday. That’s proof and only the Patriot can shoot them down in ukraines arsenal. I’m sorry you lost
>Unsourced picture of shot down missile
>Denied by Ukraine gov
>Must be patriot, praise be to raytheon
>Denied by Ukraine gov
All they said was, "No comments". Why lie?
ah, it's you malding HTV-2 malder from /pol, cute
KEK, the retard vatnig that doesn't know what dynamic pressure is. May I see that vatnig scamjet, please?
>Here from 1968: A BGRV was launched on February 26, 1968, from Vandenberg Air Force Base by an Atlas F to the area of Wake Island in the Pacific, collecting data that proved valuable in developing later maneuvering reentry vehicles.
Link: https://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/B/BGRV.html
>HyFly Mach 6 Scramjet Missile Test
Link: https://thefutureofthings.com/5667-hyfly-mach-6-scramjet-missile-test/
>HIFIRE/HyCAUSE Scramjet Mach-8+ success with Australia/USA collaboration 2017
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKipc5LpCU
>Advancing Hypersonics –Aerojet Rocketdyne’s Scramjet Engine Makes Hypersonics History
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YJyBf8x83Q
>Hypersonic missile successfully hits Ronald Reagan
MACH8 Link: https://www.theregister.com/Print/2011/11/18/hypersonic_weapon_pacific_test/
>In November 2011, AHW was launched from the Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii, to the Reagan Test Site on the Marshall Islands. The glide vehicle successfully hit the target, which is located about 3,700km away from the launch site.
Link: https://www.army-technology.com/projects/advanced-hypersonic-weapon-ahw/
>Department of Defense Tests Hypersonic Glide Body March 2020
Link: https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/2119458/department-of-defense-tests-hypersonic-glide-body/
Short vid in this link: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35369/army-shows-first-ever-footage-of-new-hypersonic-missile-in-flight-and-impacting
HVGs:
>X-43A
>HTV-2
>X-51
>KEK, the retard vatnig that doesn't know what dynamic pressure is
pffffffffffffffffffffffffft
i repeat, anything to show other than R&D ten seconds and vague glide trail with a grey circle?
>doesnt know what Yakhont is
May I see that Russian scamjet?
PAC-3 is much better than the PAC-2/PAC-2 GEM/GEM+/GEM-T/GEM-C
No, SA just ordered PAC-2, and then got them upgraded to PAC-2 GEM+ around a decade ago, and barely had any PAC-3, PAC-3 CRI, or PAC-3 MSE. What's so hard to understand? Or are you just playing stupid because you're seething right now?
>No, SA just ordered PAC-2
lmao sure
im guessing you gonna claim that the u.s goverment is also lying?
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/kingdom-saudi-arabia-ksa-patriot-advanced-capability-3-pac-3-missiles
So, you didn't see this, then?
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/saudi-arabia-patriot-pac-2-guided-enhanced-missiles-gem
Search better, retard. I told you exactly what they were.
>i've shown you Zirkon already
No, you showed me a P-800 launched from a ship claiming to be the mythical Zircoon.
>in 2009
Isn't it pitiful that a decade later, Russia still cannot produce a hypersonic scramjet powered wave rider?
>Search better, retard. I told you exactly what they were.
is your ability to comprehend anything disabled?
i posted a MDCAA from 2015 and you post one from 2012?
are you fucking idiot?
>you post one from 2012?
And? Are they not PAC-2 GEM? Over 300 of them?
>The proposed recertification program will allow the Royal Saudi Air Defense Forces to extend the shelf life of the PAC-2 missiles in its inventory for an additional twelve years.
12 years, that would be 2024 at the earliest, no?
ok lets pretend that saudis fired pac 2s
please provide evidence that they were pac 2s and not the pac 3s they bought
>please provide evidence that they were pac 2s and not the pac 3s they bought
https://theaviationist.com/2018/03/26/scary-videos-show-malfunctioning-saudi-patriot-missile-fired-to-intercept-houthi-ballistic-missile-hitting-capital-city-riyadh-instead/
God-damn you are stupid. Search yourself next time, you ignorant fuck.
Sure, see:
and here is Hyshot 5B Mach 7.5
this is your source that they fired pac 2s?
oh god lmao
Can you show me anything that proves otherwise?
>May I see that Russian scamjet?
i've shown you Zirkon already. can't remember your particular brand of cope, but i'm sure you'll repeat it her for your brethren to see
>m-m-mine is totally real tho
>i saw it on Boeing once
>in 2009
lmao
>Zircon
Lol. Lmao even. Sure thing, and the AbramsX is the follow-up to the SepV4
now, can I see a US made scramjet?
i mean, not prototype, glide trails and renders - the real deal
There's none. Not because the US can't, but because it didn't need it until now. Or will you seriously try and do a "Haha fucking burgers they also don't have it, I win!"? Because if you are, sorry to disappoint you, but this ain't 4chan.
>now, can I see a US made scramjet?
How many do you want to see? Who cares if they're not production, they still work and hold world records. Russia has yet to even fly one, ONE scramjet. See:
FaCET
X-43A scramjet
HiCAUSE
HiFiRE.
Where go? I was just getting started.
DSTO
He got assblasted. Good job matey. I should make a rentry with your info to just post that when someone spergs out about hypersonics again.
Go ahead, I have it saved as a pasta where them and the WuMao spreg so much. Makes them absolutely seethe.
HyShot
Care to share matey?
the pasta was this
I've seen it posted before
Close up HySot.
>i've shown you Zirkon already.
why is it that every single picture of the famed zircon is actually an x-51, an artist rendering of the HACM, or just an Iskander?
It's because they don't having an operational weapon. HCMs are very easy to distinguish from normal missiles, the air intake is a good indicator but ramjet weapons use these also, the key is the nose cone. Nose cone shape plays a huge role in dealing with hypersonic air flow. They can never show pictures because anyone with a decent level of knowledge on the topic has a good chance of knowing they're trying to pass of other weapons as Zircon. Hence the shit videos and CGI
Can I get a TLDR on this scramjet thing? So its a very fancy missile from what I gather, but whats the point?
got to go fast
>Nothing so far on patriot or switchblade
They just got PATRIOT less than two weeks ago. For Switchblade 300 see:
,
. Funny how you ignore evidence posts, huh?
Need more?
Idk, these look like civilians.
I remember that one, they were FSB in plain clothes.
Meeting with their FSB handler at the border of a war zone, sure.
Everyone who wasn't a tourist, brainlet, or vatnig coping knew HIMARS GLMRS worked. It's been shitting on your shitskin brothers for decades. Those are videos of it killing vatnigs, thus, it works and is successful in its given mission. No?
Can you read?
In saying the himars works because of all the evidence
No evidence for other weapon systems though
Jesus Christ you war tourists are the worst mix of angry and dumb
Photographic evidence of an intercepted Russian hypersonic missile was posted and is now accepted as fact
>In saying the himars works because of all the evidence
We had it WAY before this war, and you vatnig gays still coped about it. PATRIOT has been intercepting Iranian BMs for close to a decade regularly. Evidence is out there, if you wish to look and not bury your head in the sand screaming I-I can't see it, where is it?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/5/saudi-forces-intercept-three-ballistic-missiles-blame-houthis
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/28/saudi-arabia-intercepts-ballistic-missile-attack-over-riyadh
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/12/saudi-arabia-intercepts-ballistic-missile-over-riyadh
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/gulf/2022/03/22/Saudi-Arabia-intercepts-destroys-ballistic-missile-launched-toward-Jazan
https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2022/06/saudi-arabia-air-defense-forces-intercept-al-houthi-launched-missile-targeting-khamis-mushait-june-30
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/03/26/saudi-arabia-intercepts-missiles-abc-orig-vstop.cnn
>We should be rational and judge things on the evidence provided
>>Fuck you russian shill why are you not worshipping my side
A short example of how internet echo chambers rot the brain
>We should be rational and judge things on the evidence provided
The evidence is clear that PATRIOT is capable against high supersonic to hypersonic TBMs, and has shot down 100 of them. The evidence has been provided, you just choose to ignore it, so you can cope in fantasy land for as long as possible. Here's a PATRIOT PAC-3 taking out a hypersonic maneuvering warhead from the Pershing II in the late 90s. They call it the Storm II target test missile:
Incredibly kino webm
This one isn't as kino, but still a GMLRS hit.
Im so glad I'm not an enemy of the United States.
>HIMARS GLMRS worked
Dude, the single most vindicated person in the world is that gay GLMRS spammer. Fuck him for all those threads, but fuck me was he right.
is that a grenade dropped from a drone?
>handful of meme videos
Wow very comparable to all the Ukraine sources praising the himars
Better tell the DOD they should keep ordering those
Well, the American MIC seems to be doing well so far.
Looks successful to me, no?
What a gay ass weapon. A DJI with a grenade is far cheaper
And far less capable in a contested environment. Even the Ukrainians say they don't expect the chickshit drone to come back, and have lost 1,500+ of them so far. They only work because Russia literally fights wars worse than inbred goat fuckers in caves.
does this mean muh hypersonics arent gonna become the meta?
So long as they remain the pinnacle of thirdie weapons tech, they will be shilled on the internet
most obvious vatmoron posts are the ones where they try to turn around memes that are about them
>costs a apartment building or a healthcare for 5,000 people per missile
ummmm bro, a win for ukranian/oil barons/israel but lose for americans
>t. Paycheck to paycheck retard
Learn how a budget works, then realize these weapons were made years ago and finally kys
Consider the following:
>Enemy launches a missile at a US airfield.
>A Patriot battery fires a PAC-3 which successfully intercepts the missile.
>The enemy missile would have otherwise destroyed just one F-35 on the ground.
>The Patriot missile has instantly paid for itself 20 times over.
inb4: "but we gave them to Ukraine for free"
I guarantee you that when this is all over and we add up the amount we spent on assistance to Ukraine, it will still be vastly cheaper than stationing a couple of more brigades in Europe for the next 30 years, which is precisely what we would have to do if Ukraine lost.
Thirdies don't understand that Americans are the best businessmen in the world. That's why we're rich.
I'd love to see even power points from Russia. All I've seen is stolen Lockheed X-47 renders.
so, nothing substantial? got it
>id love
yeah yeah, back to the issue
>haven’t seen Zirkon footage
I remember you had a cope for that too
> sure we have direct knowledge into a dozen US programs, including test evaluations, blueprints, diagrams, etc going back decades, but no you can't see anything from Russia's programs that TOTALLY exist and are TOTALLY better than anything the US has ever done
Just show me any evidence and I'll go away.
>I have a power point presentation and a prototype that totally works I swears it
>meanwhile, Russia hadn’t released any power point presentations and didn’t telegraph its prototype status so its must be fake
lmao, the absolute state of US MIC
.be
A fucking P-800, have a nice day.
>Zirkon
>Yakhont
>Onyx
LOOOOOL just have a nice day, spare me your ill educated posts
And they're all supersonic, not hypersonic.
>Zirkon up to 8m
>Onyx/Yakhont 2.5m (lower than 5)
mind you, I only use Onyx/Yakhont to highlight your stupidity with P800/is line, not as hypersonic examples.
Again, we've never seen Zirkon, just P-800 boosters launching that are CLAIMED Zirkon waheads. With no video of the actual hypersonic portion (the thing that actually matters)
>Again, we've never seen Zirkon, just P-800 boosters launching
nope, stupidity or plain lie
>that are CLAIMED Zirkon waheads
oh so now you don’t trust the claim, lol
>show me
>here
>n-n-nooooo it’s a lieeeee
cope…cope never changes
>With no video of the actual hypersonic portion (the thing that actually matters)
lmao, here, have Kinzhal kino
.be
can you show me one (1) similar video from USA? again, no grey circles and trails
>That vid
moron, that isn't hypersonic. The camera pans WAY too slow following it at such a low alt to be above Mach 2.5-3.
no prob, here’s another one w/o deceleration from…
4 years ago
.be
you know what, it’s quite funny how you cope about test prototypes w/o zero being produced in US of A for actual deployment
Why would we rush something into service just because? Russia fields unreliable shit just for propaganda. Look at the multiple recent SARMAT failures, and the 60%+ failure rate of the Bulava SLBM. Furthermore, at least two Kinzhals have been dropped on Russia proper, being a shitty failure of a program. Also, what does your vid prove? That it can launch off the MiG-31 before the footage is cut 5 seconds later? May I see it actually going hypersonic speeds?
>Look at the multiple recent SARMAT failures
because shlomo on CNN said they’ve failed? c’mon, show your sauce: I know for a fact it’s CNN anonymous sources propaganda
If it didn't fail, Monke would have used it in his address for propaganda purposes.
>something something I can’t even field a missile for propaganda purposes
Why would we need to? We aren't a poor third world trying to stay relevant like Russia is. Again, we have stealth bombers/fighter and stealth CMs that Russia could never stop. Why would we need speed? You only need that for time sensitive targets, and to get past really good BMDS - which Russia doesn't have.
>fact remains: you have nothing to show for besides tests. quite pathetic
You mean actual test data, footage, and presentation of scramjets, unlike Russia?
>monke would
I’m sure Putin is eager to take points from you, just write at [email protected]
>Again, we have stealth bombers/fighter and stealth CMs that Russia could never stop
do I even need to post Serbia
>inb4 route was known
lol
>actual presentation
Oh God, that’s the best you’ve got?
One F-117 shot down out of 1700+ sorties flown by the F-117s. Seems extremely good. No?
>oh but I did
Where? Also, where is that Russian scamjet?
>multiple sarmat failures
bro with a quick google search(3 seconds) the only source on this is cnn which they "believe" that a nuclear icbm exploded because....well because they do not really give any sort of evidence
>Claimed Zircoon:
>P-800:
>Brahmos
Notice they all follow the same exact launch sequence? Why is that? Maybe because they're all the same exact missile? See the front fairing is the same as the BrahMos, which is the same as the P-800? Sequence is cold launch, fire divert thrusters to pitch over, pop fairing, ignite booster. Same in all of them.
my man, so far your claim has devolved from
>no footage
to
>I don’t believe it’s Zirkon
Russia is producing and using Kinzhal in “ukraine”. When will USA start producing? Or is gonna be “testing” for a decade more?
>no footage
>to
>I don’t believe it’s Zirkon
It's both. The footage is literally a ship launched P-800 that vatnigs larp as a scramjet supa missile.
>Russia is producing and using Kinzhal in “ukraine”.
Barely. PATRIOT just showed up and put a stop to it. Easy to hit unguarded pig farms.
>When will USA start producing?
Why would the US want a 1970s air launch BM when we have stealth cruise missiles and stealth bombers/fighters?
>Or is gonna be “testing” for a decade more?
The Army is fielding the LRHW nest year, and is doing integration tests right now.
https://www.army.mil/article/265349/1st_multi_domain_task_force_deploys_the_armys_first_long_range_hypersonic_weapon_system
>Why would the US want
so that’s a no on an actual working armament, got it
>gonna
>will
>next year I swears it
enjoy eating the dust
>so that’s a no on an actual working armament, got it
Making something that does what it claims and is reliable is hard and takes time. Russia just rushes half finish, unreliable projects into service for propaganda - like they did the Bulava SLBM with a 60% failure rate of the second and third stages. Why does Russia do that? You have yet to show me even a prototype vatnig scamjet working. Why?
No, IRL, which is why you're in this thread on PrepHole seething about it.
>something something I can’t even field a missile for propaganda purposes
lol, git gud
fact remains: you have nothing to show for besides tests. quite pathetic
>PATRIOT just showed up and put a stop to it
on twitter
peak US military might
5/3rd Field Artillery got the LRHW in February.
>inb4 n-n-no this doesn't count stupid NAFO chud!! This wasn't a COMBAT deployment!!
>Just because they're training for deployment doesn't mean it's NOT a prototype
ah yes the "prototype" that replaced the functioning weapons of an artillery battalion, we're not implying anything here are we?
you have no proof that it's a prototype beyond your cope pidor.
LRHW is a boost glide weapon that can be used for tactical strikes.
Zircon doesn't exist aside from sub 240 resolution video captured on garlic bread from half a km away or CGI of the American waverider. Kinzhal is just an air launched Iskander and doesn't employ HGV tech. Avangard is a nuclear delivery system which isn't relevant because of it's deterrence mission. Russia has no equivalent to the LRHW. Cope, seethe, and dilate
calm down boys, I was being sarcastic.
Oh lmao damn I thought I was gonna get to farm (you)s from a vatnik or /chug/fag kek
I can't wait for the moron screeching when USFK gets hypersonics.
Kek after the shitshow they threw over THAAD I'm sure we will know all about the hurt feelings of the Chinese people. Seriously though even having LRHW in Hokkaido puts massive amounts of China in range. Even from Guam 1725 miles around half of Taiwan in range, an extra 25 miles of range and the entirety of Taiwan is covered. If they were able to push the range to 1975mi with larger or more efficient boosters then a massive chunk of the Chinese coast is covered including Shanghai. Not that boost gliders are impossible to shoot down but it certainly factors in pretty heavy.
Let me guess, an uzi and a ppsh are the same gun because they have the same action
Why are you trying to deflect to a different argument that has nothing to do with the Zircon being a P-800/Brahmos? Why do they all follow the same launch sequence, and flight profile?
But the Russians, for years, have refused to show Zircon? I remember this being the case when they claimed it was in service, you could never get them to show the body, or it impacting or simply existing outside of copying Waverider. The fact we STILL don't even know what if it 'genuinely' exists because they refuse to show it, the Zircon component itself, doing anything, is extremely telling. Your analogy is more like claiming you have a full auto Uzi and PPSH at home, while never, ever showing anyone. Sure bro, you totally have Zircons.
as opposed to USA, which can show…
power point
Test footage, and actual built designs, too. Where is Russia's, my street shitty sub-human shillfren?
What? We've seen US tests of hypersonics since the US isn't afraid of showing that shit unlike Russia or China.
Hell we know how much these programs cost, what year they started in, when they did tests, what the results of those tests were, etc. It's all publicly available for all but the most recent classified programs.
>Just show me any evidence and I'll go away.
Would you settle for a clickbait article that uses a photo of a Lockheed/Boeing/Raytheon project but captions it "Zircon missile"?
May I see even one prototype scramjet from Russia that works? Why does the US hold all the records for scramjets in all categories: flight time, speed, thrust produced, etc? Why does neither Russia nor China hold any scramjet records? Aussies are the closets, but the team is led by an American educated Aussie with funding and help from the US.
>yields performance data
So… like that Starship,eh?
Somewhat, I suppose. Both are successful. Why the seethe, and no proofs of vatnig scramjets, or should we just call them vatnig scamjets?
mutt, you’ve been shown proofs not once, but twice already, and your best cope is posting a ludicrous “I-i-its P800” (which is retarded on so many levels)
>both are successful
are you serious, moron
anyway, Zirkon is in service as of 2023, while you have only tests and slides to show for all the years in development. Cool stuff, when will production start?
>Zirkon is in service as of 2023
Then why haven't we seen it? Not even in controlled tests.
are you retarded?
Are you? The P-800 looks the same when launching regardless of the warhead, showing a P-800 launch proves NOTHING about the warhead capabilities.
No, you showed me a ship launch P-800, for the 10th time, see:
Why would a hypersonic CM follow the same exact flight sequence, and flight profile of the P-800 and Brahmos?
Hypersonic weapons are a complete meme. They need to slow down in the final stage making them easy targets like all other missiles.
Because ground hugging cruise missiles are better weapons.
>Prigozhin chimps out over shells and orders a withdrawal from Bakhmut for 10th of May
>Kinzhal wunderwaffe intercepted over Kyiv by Patriot
Not great, not terrible start to the weekend for Russkies.
>Kinzhal wunderwaffe intercepted
pfffffffffft
>while you field test reports for propaganda, cool
You mean actual science, and rigorous testing? If that is what you call propaganda, sure.
>cant even afford to implement a missile for propaganda purposes, mutt? weak
Why would we rush something into service that barely works just for propaganda? That's what third world shitholes do. We have stealth cruise missiles and stealth bombers/fighters that China nor Russia can stop. Russia can't into stealth because stupid and poor, so they have to strap an Iskander to a '70s MiG-31 to hope they get past US BMDS, which this proves they failed at.
>again, eat the dust and be happy about it
What does that even mean? Must sound better in your third world language before the translation.
>You mean actual science, and rigorous testing
how many decades more of rigorous testing and actual science before you field it? 2? 3?
>Why would
that’s a hypothetical, while there’s extensive visual evidence of Russian missiles actually working, next talking point
>stealth fighters
kek, is it gonna be like f117? or like b21 which you ugh like don’t need more of?
>something something your stuff old
and working, unlike yours
>wdym
I mean you’re years behind in actual implementation
>there’s extensive visual evidence of Russian missiles actually working
Why have you still not posted any?
Again, watching a random missile booster LAUNCHING is not representative of a terminal phase hypersonic missile.
>Why have you still not posted any?
oh but I did
>going hypersonic
I’m sure you have one to post for US too
go on
post it
not a prototype, an actual working missile
Again, the difference between a prototype in the US and an in-service missile with Russia is practically the same. As long as it looks good on paper Russia will put it into "service" whereas the US likes flight proven hardware before it allows it to officially enter service.
JASSM was doing like 50-60% reliability in flight tests in the early 2000s, but it didn't enter service until 2009 when they were much more reliable, even though sure if they wanted to they could've used JASSMs in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan if they wanted to, but it wasn't super reliable so why bother when JDAMs are going to suffice for 1/10th the cost?
The US COULD put ARRW into service right now if it wanted to, as it has had ~50% reliability in flight tests, but instead they'd rather not put it into service and refine it or work on a better missile (HACM) instead.
>our prototype is on par with your actual working missile, I tell you!
……….
I'd go further to even say our not-good-enough prototypes are BETTER than most of your active in-service inventory.
go as far as you want as long as it helps you sleep at night
Yea I really struggle to sleep being the current sole superpower on the planet.
Woe is me.
You're not getting much sleep with that rage seething. LMAO.
Yes, much better, actually. Working is kinda stretching the truth, isn't it?
>how many decades more of rigorous testing and actual science before you field it? 2? 3?
Next year for the Army and Navy. Around 2027 for the Air Force. Though, the Air Force is an actual scramjet powered CM
>that’s a hypothetical, while there’s extensive visual evidence of Russian missiles actually working, next talking point
Where? They can't even hit shit they aim for.
fighters
>kek, is it gonna be like f117?
You mean an extremely effective stealth bomber? Sure.
>or like b21 which you ugh like don’t need more of?
They plan over 100 B-21s. Just 20 B-2 is enough to level both Chiner and Russia.
>something something your stuff old
Yes, and unreliable. See the recent MiG-31 crash for evidence.
>and working, unlike yours
Are they, though?
>I mean you’re years behind in actual implementation
Behind whom, exactly? Not one country fields a scramjet powered missile. Just shitty, unreliable 70s SLBMs launched from an unreliable plane. Congrats, you can hit a pig farm with a SLBM. We've seen what happened when a great BMDS - the PATRIOT - is fielded: your missile gets swatted down.
>Not one country fields a scramjet powered missile. Just
there’s that famed PrepHoleope
>next year, because DoD pinky promised
Cooooool, so, another decade trapped in r&d hell
>They can't even hit shit they aim for
sauce is your ass, ofc. better yet - ukies.
>extremely effective
shot down by 1960 wunderwaffe
>plan over 100s
Cool procurement budget you got there, lad
>would be
again with your hypotheticals
>MiG-31
Thought we were talking missiles
>are they
lmao
>behind whom
behind Russia and now China
>there’s that famed PrepHoleope
It's 100% the truth, though. Unless you can prove me wrong
>Cooooool, so, another decade trapped in r&d hell
Maybe. We actually want reliable, functioning weapons. Not propaganda pieces.
>sauce is your ass, ofc. better yet - ukies.
Sauce is hundreds of videos.
>shot down by 1960 wunderwaffe
Once, and got their shit pushed in so bad they're still seething about it today.
>Cool procurement budget you got there, lad
Yes, it's nice being a Super Power. Too bad you'll never know that feel.
>again with your hypotheticals
It's the truth. Not one B-2 has ever been damaged by enemy fire. Has it not?
>Thought we were talking missiles
What good is your missile if the only thing that can fire it is an unreliable plane?
>lmao
Are they?
>behind Russia and now China
May I see these weapons actually working?
hol up, so, leos bad performance in Syria is 100% roaches fault while Serbia is equivalent in performance to Russia?
how does this doublethink even work?
What does a tank have to do with hypersonic missiles, or their launch platforms? Why are you always going on retarded tangents?
it has to do with your f117, which you brought up entirely by yourself
How, exactly. Explain in detail, as I'm not following you, Ramdeep Dikshit.
I like how you can tell even from your own responses you know Russian tech is worse and you clearly don't ACTUALLY think it's better, or even real, you're just trying to bait responses because you've decided it's funny to pretend to be Russian.
Whatever helps you get through the day
Why do Republicans LARP as Russians?
>Muh Republicans
Dumb mutt
What am I soothing about? Lots of these kids have been coding for almost as long as I have as a 30 year old. Sorry, no matter how much you worship him, your boomer daddy was not anything special
>Russia has eleventy billion Zircon missiles
>No, you cannot see a picture of even one of them.
NTA, but here's the link to the article:
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/04/the-u-s-army-wont-buy-anymore-switchblade-300-kamikaze-drones/
>soothe yourself into complacency, only serves you right
will you only accept negative news about zoomers?
I don't understand if this is a coping mechanism.
The patriot missile system has become nearly useless and that happened twenty years ago.
Is there some new block development I had not heard about?
I've not read this thread, but let me guess, people posted about how it doesn't work citing KSA and shit like that?