>accurately predicts ubiquity of drones and swarm warfare

>accurately predicts ubiquity of drones and swarm warfare

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't use drones in Ender's game. They are all piloted. Even the buggers are piloted and not drones.

    Only the movie used drones.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao yeah m8 in the books all those cap ships and fighters were manned generation ships that had been in space for decades on what they knew was a one way trip to wipe the bug home world out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes. that's why it was so fricked up. in the end, there wasn't really a difference between us and them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kys bugposter

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there wasn't really a difference between us and them
          Sounds like we caught a bugger.
          Put the mask on.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The difference is that they were too stupid to understand what they were doing from the outset. Whereas understood that wiping out an alien race was a horrible thing to do, but come to the logical conclusion that since negotiation was impossible, it had to be done.
          >inb4 muh late realization and telepathic remorse
          Total Bugger Death

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lmao yeah m8 in the books all those cap ships and fighters were manned generation ships that had been in space for decades
        yes, they were
        now stop shitposting about books you haven't even read

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Forever War (1974) contains the word drone 61 times

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but they still end up fighting with swords lol, that shit was so stupid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they still end up fighting with swords lol

        They fought inside a stasis field that stopped all molecular activity, so a nick of your suit's protective film would kill you instantly.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In the novel "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card, the concept of drones as we understand them today—autonomous or remotely piloted flying vehicles—does not play a central role. However, the book does extensively feature the use of remote-controlled and autonomous systems in the context of space battles. The combat in the novel is primarily conducted through fleets of spaceships and smaller fighter craft, which are often controlled remotely by the children at Battle School, including Ender Wiggin, the protagonist.

    >These remote control systems are part of the simulated battles that form a crucial part of the training at Battle School, where the children learn to command fleets and strategize in zero-gravity environments. While not drones in the contemporary sense, these systems share some similarities in terms of being remotely operated for military purposes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, they weren't remote controlled. In the sequels the fighter pilots meet ender and say that he made no mistakes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention ender felt remorse for sending the pilots to their deaths in the final battle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Not to mention ender felt remorse for sending the pilots to their deaths in the final battle.
          And Bean apologizes to them (or says goodbye or something) as he gives a suicidal order.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bean books were fun( from what I remember)
            >Internet Anon takes over the world one Armenia at a time

            yes. that's why it was so fricked up. in the end, there wasn't really a difference between us and them

            okay bugfricker
            back to

            [...]

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >didn't read the book
              >is moronic
              ye

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lmao yeah m8 in the books all those cap ships and fighters were manned generation ships that had been in space for decades
                yes, they were
                now stop shitposting about books you haven't even read

                >yes that is what the book said but you didnt even read da book
                interesting bait technique I'll give it 3 stars for originality and 1 for engagement returns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you come here?
                I mean really? Just to act like a moron? You aren't funny. Your bait is stupid. You aren't improving your own mood or adding anything of value to this board.

                Either have a discussion or go away and do something better with your time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moron keeps responding to obvious bait
                >WHY ARE YOU BATING ME!?!?!?!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ChatGPT is not a source.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Machine regurgitated text contributes absolutely nothing to any conversation. If you can't be bothered to write your own post, nobody is going to bother to read it. You are a fricking imbecile.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never post AI slop again you disgusting homosexual. have a nice day if you can't contribute a human thought to a conversation.

        the frick are you babbling about

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you can't tell that those paragraphs were blatantly generated by ChatGPT you shouldn't post here.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fricking scizo

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry you're a mental incompetent. It's clearly some sort of LLM text. No one on /k/ talks like that. It's written like an English class essay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No one on /k/ talks like that. It's written like an English class essay
                It's also confidentially wrong about really basic stuff.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you shouldn't post here

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry you're a mental incompetent. It's clearly some sort of LLM text. No one on /k/ talks like that. It's written like an English class essay.

                Im just gonna start posing chat gpt stuff now that I know it pisses you off so much

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Machine regurgitated text contributes absolutely nothing to any conversation.
        this one was kinda funny

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Never post AI slop again you disgusting homosexual. have a nice day if you can't contribute a human thought to a conversation.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >named Ender
    >ends the war

    how did the editors let this happen

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    posting finest prediction in PrepHole category

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      underrated/unremembered game
      >50 players matches on 360
      >muh xm8 pr0n, bullpup ak lulz
      >tactical nukes going off during moscow campaign
      >cliffhanger ending showing game 2 will be in the pacific theater
      any Arma mods for this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really want this game redone but with better gunplay. I loved it on PC, Battlefield 2142 was kinda dying at that point so this game scratched the itch.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >frontlines:fuel of war
      MAI homie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those aren't the remote control helicopter drones from 007: Nightfire.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man I miss pissing people off with my shit heli skills and blowing up tanks with chink rc cars

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Speaker for the dead was a more impactful book than Enders game, but it doesn’t get the attention because it doesn’t have space battles…

    I’ll die on this hill.. and hope that afterwards someone spoke the truth of my life to everyone, the good, the bad, why I am as I am.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I read the two books when I was too young to really get it, but it did make me very anti war. Card said something like “you can’t defeat your enemy without understanding them well enough to love them.” I think this contradiction is what drives the major themes of the books.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It could've done without the piggies tho.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EG is passable sci-fi because it has space battles, all the follow-ons just remind you more and more that Card was a hack.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >EG is passable sci-fi because it
        is a pony with all of two tricks; one, the notion that you could turn a child prodigy into a military genius; and two, maybe the most effective general is a duped psychopath thinking he's playing a game, who can thus sacrifice men and commit atrocities to win the war.

        I suppose this was hot shit in the 80s, when the Cold War was in full swing, computers and computerised war was taking off in the public eye (picrel), and so was the question of child prodigies, in particular chess-playing child prodigies dreaming of following in the footsteps of Fisher vs Spassky, such as the Polgar sisters whose story is basically Ender's Game for chess.
        But with a lot less sociopathy.

        >Card was a hack
        not really, he was good enough for that one novel
        it's just that everything afterwards suffers from sequelitis; he no longer had anything to say about humanity so he's stuck merely telling the stories of what happened afterwards to his characters. essentially writing his own fanfiction.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not really, he was good enough for that one novel
          >it's just that everything afterwards suffers from sequelitis
          In one of the forewords he mentions that speaker for the dead was the novel he wanted to write, but enders game had to be extended from a short story to a novel to contextualize speaker and make it sensible (which it really didn't)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Speaker was written for women, prove me wrong

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    god damn was the cover published in 1939 or smth lmfao

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not really, as already stated, but that book and its sequels shaped my mind so much.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know how new idea it was to make a "queen" for a hive mind in the 70s was but the trope of "kill the queen and all the workers die" is one of my most hated tropes in sci-fi.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked how Ender's Game handled it because of the idea of complete lack of real empathy from the bugs up until the end of the second war when they realized what they had done. It highlights the theme in the book that empathy makes for good leaders and allows you to effectively combat an enemy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but it became so much more in Speaker for the Dead, where Ender and the dead/undead queen exchange thoughts. I loved how it was handled from the "humanity" aspect of Ender

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >accurately predicts the widespread use of child soldiers in future conflicts
    >accurately predicts how the internet will lead to the destruction of democratic institutions
    Orson Scott Card had a crystal ball. Change my mind.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget
      >Biggest thread to human civilization is bugpeople

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Always have been, always will be.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but anon the bugmen in enders game actually had empathy and just didn't realize that non-chinese non-russian humans are all individual sapient beings instead of just mobiks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesnt mean shit if they still want to kill us

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not one mention of drone warfare the game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      total annihilation came out in 96 and had drones way before then. It was literally AI vs Clones.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well technically it was people uploaded into cyberspace and forced to shed this mortal coil.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl-f "Hammer's Slammers"
    >0 results
    Shame on all of you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >accurate predictions thread
      >tanks in the future
      Surely you jest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tanks in the future
        >Surely you jest
        David Weber too likes to put armored vehicles and gunship aircraft in his far distant future stories but their purpose often is to demonstrate how fragile they are when surprised by presence of future manpads

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was pretty on point for the time
        >smart arty
        >satellite recon nets
        >Slammers are so successful in part due to their autistic obsession with sensor and network integration
        >every gun is an APS if you can see far enough
        >was predicting man-portable recon drone networks back in the 80s
        That one story he wrote where the not!Muslim defector goes on a Mad Max tier joyride through a desert in a stolen tank with no ammo for anything but the coaxial was quite good.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm somewhat confused why drones were not used, with FTL-coms used heavily you could send all the drones across spacetime and fight like they were in direct control.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm somewhat confused why drones were not used
      >with FTL-coms used heavily you could send all the drones across spacetime and fight like they were in direct control.
      That's what the movie did.

      The novel is much older and didn't predict drones so everything is crewed and people are dying but Ender doesn't know until afterwards, Bean and possibly Alai work it out at "command school" but don't tell Ender, this is maybe a retcon because it only comes up in the Bean books.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It also predicted political blogging that could change the world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >psychopathic bully trolls the Internet, gets elected President
      ah, the 4chud Dream

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The human piloted ships apparently followed the orders of Ender et al closely enough that it never generated questions of sapience. No disobedience, just execution of instructions. They even followed orders that were suicidal.

    I submit this: if the fighters have human pilots but are otherwise acting like a drone, the connection to modern day drones is valid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The human piloted ships apparently followed the orders of Ender et al closely enough that it never generated questions of sapience. No disobedience, just execution of instructions. They even followed orders that were suicidal.
      Ender *believed* that they were simulated human pilots.
      He didn't know the "simulation" was live, only Bean worked it out and maybe Alai.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >small number of pilots flee / fail to obey orders / make mistakes
      >Ender: wow this simulation is fricking real

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drones were nothing new even then. Teletanks, Aircraft and Boats were things since the 1930's

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    movies way gayer than the book

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we know
      we didn't even get any Hailee Steinfeld fanservice

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