I've got a criterion core 1:8 twist 16" barrel. I'm looking for a factory cartridge (.223 or 5.56 is fine) that's good for bench shooting (looking for MOA or better) while remaining inexpensive.
I currently use IMI razorcores. Good stuff, but $1 per round. I've used Frontier in the past and it's decent for the price. I'm a big fan of norma ammunition but it's only worth on sale.
Are there any sub .80cpr cartriges that can do MOA or better?
how far are you shooting bro?
Get into reloading. The ammo market is going to be dogshit for years to come.
Best answer. Hand loaded rounds can outperform any box ammo. They can be complete dogshit too if you don't know what you're doing.
Also I know that handloads are good because they can be tailored, but how can they be more consistent than factory made ammo?
factory ammo can vary from lot to lot and have frickhuge velocity spreads. making better ammo than factory really isn't difficult. were you the anon having problems with flyers?
>how can they be more consistent than factory made ammo?
you are literally making the ammo, its up to you to make them good
>but how can they be more consistent than factory made ammo
I size, inspect, trim to length and dechamfer every case. I seat every primer by hand, not by machine, so I know if something is off, such as a stretched primer pocket. Then I weigh each powder charge individually. I seat each bullet by, and measure the overall cartridge length, to make sure nothing got fricked up. Then I do another visual inspection of every round, as weigh each loaded cartridge to make sure none are overly light or heavy compared to the rest, indicating a weird case or an odd power charge (or an empty chase, but that's impossible with how autistic I am.
I have never had a handloaded round fail to fire or cause a malfuction in any of my guns. You just need to be good at it. The people that have problems with reloading are the dumbfricks who uses shit cases, skimp on powder, and load really fast using progressive presses.
based and correct. and if you get into lead casting, OP, you'll basically have bullets forever assuming the platform is low velocity enough. cowboy guns, shotguns, etc.
do you want 1 MOA or don't you
With the setup costs and, from what I hear - the cost of reloading supplies raising like ammo, it's not really that cost effective?
I don't know how much it'd cost to reload a .223 round with a sierra matchking bullet, but I can assume I'd save a few cents per round.
But with the time spent, and inevitable rabbit hole of setup costs, needing specific parts, oops this die has a burr in it, oops this powder measurement needs to be recalibrated, is it worth the headaches?
That is the excuse used by anyone who is afraid of getting into it. It cost me $300 to get into, and has saved me thousands over the years. Stock up on primers, powder and bullets when they are cheap ... and cases are always available and cheap it seems, especially if you use just re-use your own or buy once-fired. But every year you resist getting into reloading is another year you are assfricked by factory ammo makers that give you underpowered, inaccurate, unreliable and expensive products.
Sub MOA for less than 1$/r is non existent, because cheap and highly consistent loads are mutually exclusive.
If you want optimal results, there is no way around reloading. That is the only way to ensure maximum consistency in your loads and matching them to your individual rifle.
There are two general approaches to reloading. You can either produce factory quality bulk for substantially less money or handtaylor the ammo to your specific rifle. Handloading with a single stage press outperformes every automated process, it is just very time consuming.
Whether it is worth it for your specific wants and needs is something only you yourself can decide.
All the people I know who are either into LRPS or do a lot of competition without ammo sponsorship ALL load their own ammo.
As
pointed out, loading your own ammo only makes sense if you know what you are doing. It is something that takes time and effort. But for top of the line performance it is mandatory.
I would suggest that you find an enthusiastic boomer to teach you. They are usually happy to share their knowledge and hands on experience is needed anyway. He might let you use his equipment to create some badges so you understand the equipment and the process. If he really likes you he might share some special recipes.
winchester rounds are fairly cheap for how good they are
it was a few years ago but i chrono'd some of their m193 and that shit was almost 3300fps outta 20in
>OP asks specific question
>autismos start their lectures on DIY homegrown ranch ammo
>op posts dumb bait thread
>pretends to not be a samegay
all op had to do was answer the first question and i'd have told him what ammo to buy
you could reload sub moa ammo for prob 40-50 cents a round. less if you already have brass you've saved.
How do I save brass from the local brass goblin?
offer to suck its dick in exchange for letting YOU keep YOUR brass
or just beat the shit out of it idk man up to you/your dignity