According to Ukraine they would need around 200k FPV drones a month for they fight against Russia.

According to Ukraine they would need around 200k FPV drones a month for they fight against Russia. Realistically which country in the world would have the industrial capacity to provide them with so many drones?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia producing 300,000 drones a month is the least believable thing I've heard since this war started. You won't get a single rupees for this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is importing them directly from China

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well that's still not making them themselves.

        Also they're not getting 300000. Ridiculous.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Surely the nation that can't even produce ball bearings domestically, is capable of making that many drones every month

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dont forget about
        >nails
        >toothpaste
        >toilet paper
        god russia is such a joke "country" or "society", i always wondered how they manage to stay patriotic while their children prostitute themselves out around them at the age of 5 or younger.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/Mg0E7kV.png

          Surely the nation that can't even produce ball bearings domestically, is capable of making that many drones every month

          Because they are nothing but a gas station masquerading as a country

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Makkng quality ballbearings is hard. There are only like 5 companies worldwide(all in europe or US) that produce the machines and machinetools to manufacture round metal balls.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it so hard to make spheres? I remember this was a bottleneck for Germans in WWII too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Making them with precise margins. You don't want one being 0.1% bigger than the others.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Making them with precise margins. You don't want one being 0.1% bigger than the others.
              you kids are so fricking moronic here and have no shame about it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He is right though, you indian piece of shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There are only like 5 companies worldwide(all in europe or US)
          Nope. Two of them, NSK and Nachi-Fujikoshi, are Japanese.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're telling me that picrel is some kind of advanced technology that puccia hasn't unlocked?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't you know the history of the Russian space pen?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That story is so funny because no one uses pencils in space. Graphite flakes would fly around and frick up all the equipment

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_in_space#Pencil

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't the USSR end up buying those same NASA-designed pens too?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes and I'm tired of hearing it. Russians used wax pencils and markers, and even bought these "Fisher space pen" after they have been developed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's what I meant.
                American private companies developed a pen that NASA could use. The Russians just bought the American product instead of producing their own.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but a bic pen isn't made to write in space or upside down. I'm just wondering if something as "simple" (well, maybe it's not that simple after all) as a bic pen is too advanced technologically for puccia. I'm talking consumer grade, no need to be fancy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm just wondering if something as "simple" (well, maybe it's not that simple after all) as a bic pen is too advanced technologically for puccia
                Sort of, like

                No joke literally yes. China couldn't make one until 2015

                said, China only got there a few years ago.

                The bearing in the pen's nib has extremely tight tolerances and this engineering and metallurgy is still beyond most countries' current abilities though probably achievable if they focused on it.
                A perfectly smooth bearing wouldn't actually work, it needs roughness to carry ink from one side to the other but it also has to be smooth relative to the socket edges so that it rolls in the nib. Getting the roughness inside this narrow range is quite difficult.

                Not only that but making the ball to such precise specifications requires a specific grade of high-quality steel or tungsten which basically isn't used for anything else (I've seen the tunsten advertised as useful for birdshot as well) and ballpoint pen factories don't use a lot of this steel, on a weight basis anyway. 3.8b pen bearing balls per year is a lot but in terms of steel...China uses about 1.14 tonnes of such bearing balls each year and the production capacity of any factory that could produce the steel would be far higher than that. And if you develop the tooling to produce it, then you need to recoup costs but nobody is paying $1 for a 0.0003g bearing ball. It's hard to sell at western prices because they pay almost nothing for shipping because it's so light and they paid off their tooling a century ago and now it's just some small production line in the corner of a factory that does other stuff.

                The ballpoint pen bearings could probably have been done much sooner but there was no compelling commercial requirement to do it, at one point Li Keqiang stood up and challenged Chinese industry to get it done and made some grants and after a few years, they did.

                The technological challenge isn't trivial but it's more that they had no economic incentive to develop the technology.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This, it's not that bearings are hard, it's just that the industry has reached saturation and if you can buy them from the international market there's no incentive beyond self-sufficiency to enter the market.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In theory, they should be able to do it, as it's just a tube of ink with a single ball bearing controlling it's flow housed in another plastic tube. But it depends on whether they bothered to make a factory of their own instead of just importing them all in from the West.

                I've just had a quick Google to see if I can find one, but it looks like they prefer to use fountain pens instead.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No joke literally yes. China couldn't make one until 2015

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, russia couldn't even produce toilet paper until the (late) 60's

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it so hard to make spheres? I remember this was a bottleneck for Germans in WWII too

          It's not that hard to make them, even at the required tolerances.
          But good luck making them at a viable price compared to the competition that has their town sized factories already set up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ...

          It's not fricking hard.
          It's just hard to make them profitably
          Russians are just this fricking stupid
          Anyone can make them
          The Russians really need them and profit isn't an issue
          They are just fricking stupid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmao drones are way easier to producer than ball bearings.
        Also nukes are harder to produce than ball bearings and Russia makes them.
        I genuinely don't get what is a point of your post

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All of Russia's nukes are from the Soviet era and at or past their retirement date. Their post-USSR replacement crashed and is a liquid fueled rocket. Nukes appear to be a sort of lost tech for Russia.

          Nukes are very expensive. Tritium goes bad. We know most of America's arsenal was straight up unusable in the mid-2000s. America has had to spend more than Russia's entire defense budget each year to not even fully maintain its treatt arsenal, which is 33% smaller than Russia's. Russia supposedly maintains 33% more weapons on a budget that was only 1.8% of the size (and this was after a modernization "surge" announced in 2016).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't the estimated cost between $652b and $887b for the US? How much does Russia spend on its defense budget?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can manufacture bearings, for frick's sake. I'm sick and tired posting the factory list, but TL;DR they have ~5 really big factories, and they make bearings that aren't any worse than what Ukraine makes, and those seem to be perfectly fine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't sixfold more of 50,00 be 350,000? 50,000+6x50,000.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know if this applies to the whole front, but it sounds like they might be having trouble with drone supplies in the Donbass.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Part 2

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/S1NHD1A.png

        Part 2

        Here's the original Telegram post.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    China

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia makes sixfold more.

    How? I was ensured by several media outlets that the Russian manufacturing capabilities are done for and I have never seen a video of a Russian drone clapping Ukrainians ever on /k/. How can this be?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is propaganda my dude.
      Please also keep in mind that Russia has lost already 40.000 men in 2024 and are practically out of armored vehicles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >T55 obr 2024
        Nobody could have foreseen this happening five years ago.
        If Tom Clancy wrote this, he'd be booed off the stage for being an unrealistic America wanker.
        We are truly in the most moronic timeline.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How?
      Simple, they don't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a lie, Russia industry is well behind the line and they can import the rest of Asia

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thailand probably, they make pretty much all toyotas in asia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Making ICE cars = making drones
      If that were the case Germany would pumping out drones like hotcakes to support Ukraine now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        German government wants Russia to win so obviously they won't produce shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Drones are orders of magnitude easier to make (par the silicon) than ICE cars, there's just no point in competing with china in low value production. We will probably see this change as drones become militarily relevant

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Modern trains have a lot of electronics.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get 300000 drones a month
    >can't use them for shit

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >According to Ukraine they would need around 200k FPV drones a month
    Do you realize how unrealistically moronic that number sounds. There are 43,800 minutes in a month, so that's implying at least 5 FPV drones would be used every minute nonstop for an entire month. Good luck with that Ukes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a little more ridiculous than shooting the 90.000 artillery shells they use every month.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am bored, where are new waves and oil go boom?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If current trends continue, then something should happen five minutes ago.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >10.000 per day
    arty is over

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    These are FOR Russia. Also : Not the Tire shop. Ukraine's done for now !

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Maybe just Vulehdar, but that will face encirclement once Novomikhailovka fails, which the Russians are storming right now

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    3 and a half miles from donetsk by the way.
    40,000 people dead by the way.
    30,000 population before the war by the way.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Thanks doc

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What happened this time for zigger trash to seethe this hard?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      being born a Russian

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Christ, at this rate Russia will reach the border of Donetsk Oblast in seven years!

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    if you think this is getting your shit kicked in the speed at which battles are won and frontlines move in literally any other historical war will probably make you melt

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Realistically which country in the world would have the industrial capacity to provide them with so many drones?
    China

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >The Ukraine needs to get bombed back to the stone age because my finances just can't take this anymore.
    t. sad Russian watching line go down

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Meatwave tactics are working and Russians are slowly creeping into the city
    They'll control the ruins by summer.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Pro zigger sources are claiming daily gains. Pro Ukraine sources are panicking. Things are looking bad.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >The Ukraine needs to get bombed back to the stone age because my finances just can't take this anymore.
    hahahahaha

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >mountains of money
    Yup we are truly strangled by sending what was it again? 0.03% of GDP? All military aid goes into modernizing our forces?
    >you must be 18 to post

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >The Ukraine
    Hello, John from Idaho oblast, I am of perfect agreeing with you, and also we should be fearful of mighty bear Russia which could quash our puny HATO army

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >money spent per year 50-7 0bilion
    >on a budget of several trillion
    >of which income taxes isn't even the second biggest form of taxes funding it
    sure my guy this is the thing that is making you broke and not your poor life choices and spending habits

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's supee bowl weekend. Russians won't do their normal bullshit propaganda because they know the USA isn't watching.
    Happens every year with pieces of shit. Superbowl. Guess terrorism needs to stop. Or war propaganda. Or announcements of hypersonic missiles by China.

    Frick me. The entire world hangs on our nuts it's that annoying. Why dont the Russians actually..... Do things besides talk, drink, act depressed and die. Like paint their houses, fix their roads. You know normal shit. They care so much but do so little. They think Putin is actually doing something.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1anph9e/ukrainian_soldiers_listen_to_the_explosions_in/

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >Muh finances
    I know this is just shitty bait, but I really want to know if you actaully think you would pay less in taxes, if Ukraine stopped getting money.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many drones does West produces again?

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