A6Ms on oxcarts is my favorite IJN moment Posted on March 6, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor A6Ms on oxcarts is my favorite IJN moment
are volatile torpedoes better or worse than torpedoes that just don't work?
What's funny about oxcarts?
More that the actual factory that built the Zero Fighters had no way of actually flying or transporting them to the main land runway to actually take off for testing/flight duty due to the location of the factory. After the Allies started near daily bombing raids, transportation became so dicey that they ended up transporting sections of each plane on ox-driven carts and then performing final assembly and testing at the nearby airport. Just a shitshow of logistics compounded by the incoming aerial attacks.
This would basically be the equivalent of a factory making F35s have to tow them by flatbed truck to a local airbase to even perform initial flight testing or checks.
I thought it was just like germans with horse drawn artillery but apparently there were multiple cases where their oxen all starved to death and it stopped production of aircraft. Nutty stuff.
Yeah it was really bad. The firebombings were doing more damage to Japan's industrial output than anything that came before it. Just pure insanity in those final days.
the dichotomy of an advanced (for the time) fighter being transported by animal
I remember that scene in The Wind Rises
>When we awoke on the morning of December 8, 1941, we found ourselves — without any foreknowledge — to be embroiled in war... Since then, the majority of us who had truly understood the awesome industrial strength of the United States never really believed that Japan would win this war. We were convinced that surely our government had in mind some diplomatic measures which would bring the conflict to a halt before the situation became catastrophic for Japan. But now, bereft of any strong government move to seek a diplomatic way out, we are being driven to doom. Japan is being destroyed. I cannot do [anything] other but to blame the military hierarchy and the blind politicians in power for dragging Japan into this hellish cauldron of defeat.
I feel like this is what will happen if the US tries to go against China's industrial production today
It's simply no match, but at least we have nuclear weapons to deter the war going to our actual defeat
This is the information age and warfare has evolved to the point where it's not going to be the people who can make the most crap but the people who can put their munitions right where it hurts the most, as shown by how punishing even mediocre and outdated missile artillery was to Russian ambitions when combined with NATO targeting information.
>I feel like this is what will happen if the US tries to go against China's industrial production today
I'll disagree with that. Right now China doesn't really have a way to stop the US from gaining air supremacy in a conventional war. Once the US starts round the clock bombing with PGM's that industrial capability is going to be ground down to far below what the US has.
Not really. America is within striking distance of china in terms of manufacturing. If you factor in alliances the advantage goes to the US. Japan in 1941 just wasn’t an industrialized nation. They had made great strides in an incredibly short amount of time and their engineers worked wonders with what they had, but they fundamentally had been a closed feudal society less than a hundred years before and their economy had been overstressed for decades by the depression, the war in China, and their rapid military buildup.
Producing most equipment after a war starts is a bit outdated.
I would argue that modern military hardware is (mostly) too complex for overall industrial production to matter: you can't just retool car factories and such to start building F-35s and Abrams like might have been possible with 1940s-level technology
You can criple China by blowing up one dam.
There wont be a war, besides, the CCP needs the US, it's the main importer of food to china.
>China declares war
>UK is forced to join
>UK puts together the last of the old dambusters on their rickety lancasters for one last job
>Muhammad and Tarqeesha are added onto the crew and get up to some wacky antics.
Seems like a fun BBC miniseries.
The US could easily match China, but that doesn't even matter because the war will be fought in China's backyard. Do you think China's shipyards won't be targeted? What do you think happens to your industrial output when those get bombed and the oil imports are cutoff? You haven't thought it through xhang.
J20s being pulled by oxcart?
What's the "active ingredient in fire"?
Oxygen is what he's going for
>be IJN pilot
>aboard the world's largest submarine
>it's also the world's first submarine aircraft carrier
>plane capacity: 2 1/2
>your mission: at dawn sortie and strike a random town in the PNW with incindiary bombs
>the gaijin will soon know the reach of the kido butai
>you reach your target in the sea of trees
>no air defenses of any kind
>release your bomb
>score direct hit on that important looking building (miss)
>some trees and bushes are set on fire
>townspeople are mostly just confused
>are we under attack? must be our imagination...
>travel to that town to apologize
>oh that was you on that day? lmao
>nobody had any clue what happened but some guy swears he saw a plane
>nevermind that though, you're going to march in our parade
>you're also an honorary citizen now
>we'll put your family katana in our library
I-400's had a full load of 3 aircraft, not 2 and a half.
It was actually an I-15 class, couldn't remember all the details and too lazy to look it up. 2 1/2 was meant as humor regardless.
had any clue what happened but some guy swears he saw a plane
The hilarious part is that they probably sooner thought it was one of their own planes than the japanese
This is a widespread myth.
The only IJA ship whose loss can be attributed to a torpedo explosion was Suzuya, but that was due to a prolonged fire in the area, so no different to any other explosives cooking off due to prolonged exposure to heat.
Chokai and Mogami was thought to have been hit by Gambier Bay and Portland respectively in the torpedos, but when RVs visited the wreck the torpedo tubes and magazines were showed no sign of catastrophic explosion.
In recent years, documents have been unearthed of IJN testing of oxygen torpedos and found they that oxygen propellent wasn't a major risk. The biggest danger was still the warhead, which was no different to other nations
From what I've read early versions of the torpedo had the motor startup using pure oxygen but this frequenly lead to fires/explosions. A modification was then introduced to have the torpedo motor start up on normal air before switching to oxygen which eliminated the issue. There was also another issue where the fuses were freqeuntly set too sensitive. The result was if the ship was at high speed some of the torpedos would explode upon impact with the water.