a Ukie channel posted this from the Kharkiv rout. What is is it?

a Ukie channel posted this from the Kharkiv rout

What is is it?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    amore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wheeeen theeee shell hits your tank and your column gets spanked that's
      >amore

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ceramic explosive armour without the explosive
    Again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is one layer of whatever its missing! Middle right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would they remove the explosive?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you keep it in when some mining company will pay you if you sell it to them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who the fuck are they selling those explosives? Totally-not-CIA?

          https://i.imgur.com/Ys5bUHk.jpg

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          https://defense-update.com/20040125_clara.html

          They do manufacture reactive armor from hybrid/novel materials such as plastic ir ceramics, but I don't think this is the answer in this case.

          2 possible explanations.

          A. This is NERA with the rubber/energetic non-explosive material missing from between the reactive plates.

          B. This is ERA with missing 4S20 explosive elements. Explosives are removed in peace time, or they could have been looted/stolen, etc. The end result is the same, they are not present.

          https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/p/kontakt-1.html?m=1

          And just saying in general. ESL morons and 60 IQ tourist gays/low effort shills should die. The entire fucking knowledgebase of mankind is at your fingertips, and yet you fail to do as little as typing in a fucking question into Google. My fucking god.

          >selling, looting, stealing
          Why assume they ever even had it to sell? The easiest way for it to be missing is just that whoever was supposed to buy it bought themselves a yacht instead and it never existed in the first place.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think ERA is ever loaded into tanks in peacetime in any country. And knowing Russians when a conflict comes the fillers are either long expired, or never delivered.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why would a country with rampant corruption, piss poor equipment upkeep, struggling industries, and supply issues, and dogshit planning for 7 fucking years have missing components to their tank equipment??

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They never put it in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ceramic explosive armour

      This is horseshit, by the way. Nobody believe this guy. They don't make ceramic ERA because ceramic tiles would just shatter when the explosive goes off. ERA is meant to launch a steel plate diagonally along the path of the incoming projectile rod so that the rod is constantly eating through fresh plate as it moves forward.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, you're behind the times.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not really. Stop trying to save face.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MUCH safer to infantry without the explosive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Safer for the troops riding on the tank or advancing on foot next to the armor?
        Oh, wait...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Both. Safer for the enemy as well. Safer all around. Very much an improvement.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ERA without the E.

      Who the fuck are they selling those explosives? Totally-not-CIA?

      Fisherman and goldminer

      why would they remove the explosive?

      Why would you keep it in when some mining company will pay you if you sell it to them.

      NAFO shills back in force, and full of shit as usual.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's naTo you illiterate ESL

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's HATO actually

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > NAFO
        Imagine being this buk-broken by a bunch of twitter libs and redditors

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would they remove the explosive?

      >Ceramic explosive armour

      This is horseshit, by the way. Nobody believe this guy. They don't make ceramic ERA because ceramic tiles would just shatter when the explosive goes off. ERA is meant to launch a steel plate diagonally along the path of the incoming projectile rod so that the rod is constantly eating through fresh plate as it moves forward.

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      NAFO shills back in force, and full of shit as usual.

      https://defense-update.com/20040125_clara.html

      They do manufacture reactive armor from hybrid/novel materials such as plastic ir ceramics, but I don't think this is the answer in this case.

      2 possible explanations.

      A. This is NERA with the rubber/energetic non-explosive material missing from between the reactive plates.

      B. This is ERA with missing 4S20 explosive elements. Explosives are removed in peace time, or they could have been looted/stolen, etc. The end result is the same, they are not present.

      https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/p/kontakt-1.html?m=1

      And just saying in general. ESL morons and 60 IQ tourist gays/low effort shills should die. The entire fucking knowledgebase of mankind is at your fingertips, and yet you fail to do as little as typing in a fucking question into Google. My fucking god.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looking at op's pic, the plates have a lighter colored middle section. Maybe that's the "rubber" layer, sandwiched between two ceramic plates, only it's some material that's white. Latex, silicone, fuck if I know.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's supposed to be a 'packet' of some sort of either explosive, or non-explosive material sandwiched in the small cavity between the plate backing. You can see a lonely-looking one in the rightmost slot of the center applique.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can see someone tried to pry it out some time ago with a screwdriver but gave up lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A. This is NERA with the rubber/energetic non-explosive material missing from between the reactive plates.
        It's not.

        >B. This is ERA with missing 4S20 explosive elements. Explosives are removed in peace time, or they could have been looted/stolen, etc. The end result is the same, they are not present.
        Or they could have never been present.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Or they could have never been present.
          there's still a slab of explosive on the far right slot of the bottom one, you can even see where the thief tried to pry it out and failed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The entire fucking knowledgebase of mankind is at your fingertips, and yet you fail to do as little as typing in a fucking question into Google. My fucking god.

        You said it yourself, shills. Because some Ukrainian takes out the explosives and takes a photo for propaganda purposes, we will all believe Russia is very very weak.
        But... what if we don't give a shit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But... what if we don't give a shit?

          Then you have no reason to be ITT except shilling from Rhode Island oblast.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >triggered shill detected

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have any self-awareness, you stupid fucking gay? Go slap your mother for failing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I heard those tanks are stored without explosives in ERA modules, probably nobody prepared them for the war.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I heard those tanks are stored without explosives in ERA modules

        Correct. Whilst this page details Kontakt-1, the principle is the same. The explosive is easily removed, the steel housing remains attached to the tank.

        https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/p/kontakt-1.html

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ERA without the E.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YOURE VDV, MY AIRPORT DON’T BOTHER ANGEL I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GOES ON

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who the fuck are they selling those explosives? Totally-not-CIA?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fisherman and goldminer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I have 200 million vodka dollars to equip all tanks going to ukraine with proper ERA
      Nyet
      >I have a new mansion, son-in-law has new datcha, and grandkids are studying in expensive west preparatory schools
      >and I have 150 million vodka dollars to equip all tanks going to Ukraine with proper ERA

      Now repeat this down the chain.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Selling
      they never made them to begin with anon

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bathroom tile armor,some generals datcha is going to have a explosive bathroom renovation someday

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks like NERA or some shit

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this whole shit show has been hilarious

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My passport number ends in 0007. I travel a lot and border agents often comment on it and have a laugh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the one they threw out of a window the other day?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait what? Video please

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks like removable NERA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This was such a clever fucking design on the T-72B and T-80U, what the fuck happened to Russians?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Independent Ukraine happened.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This was such a clever design that the soviets didn't come up with it, but rather stole it from western tanks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Uh huh. What western tanks did they steal if from, exactly?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Leopard 2 prototype, which in turn used the Burlington armor tech, stolen from the Brits during the failed MBT-80 joint project.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              FMBT-70 not MBT-80

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >clever fucking design on the T-72B and T-80U, what the fuck happened to Russians?

        Russians neither designed nor built it.

        They're turning to BELARUS for silicon chips right now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They're turning to BELARUS for silicon chips right now
          To be fair that's just because Belarus isn't sanctioned quite as hard as them, so they can just order from anyone and hand it over to Russia at a markup.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well Elektronika was in Belarus, and last I checked they still exist. They were the top dog for Soviet consumer electronics, from TV-s to home computers to Nintendo Game & Watch knockoffs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >cloning 70's Casio watches is the highest aspiration of former combloc electronics
            >housing still bulges out like a tumor because they are literally unable to replicate 70's western tech
            Fuck me sideways
            Near peer my ass

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm a watchmaker.

              The exterior is actually pretty solid. It's the insides that are horrendous. The LCD is early tech the Japs stopped doing in the second half of the 70's. And I know Luch circuit boards always suffered from oxidation, Elektronika boards probably weren't different.

              Also for some reason the Soviets sold their watches without a strap.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Re: straps it was likely to prevent shortages from being a production bottleneck. It's silly but issues like that were prevalent in basically any consumer production in the USSR and SSRs since the quality of economic planners varied wildly. Imagine if how effective your manufacturing was ended up being tied to how responsive and influential your city councilman was.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but Vostok set up bracelet manufacturing right in their factory after 1991. They're absolute dogshit folded bracelets made from catfood cans, but still.

                Maybe it was some weird ideological position.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brain drain.
        It’s happening with Russian IT industry as well. At this rate, they’ll just become a larger North Korea in regards to cyber threats.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The designers were most likely not Russian

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jellyfilled donuts

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that a standard NERA block?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do explosive fillers actually go in there, or is it indeed pure NERA?

    Western spaced NERA should looks somewhat similar, though this looks WAAAAY more spaced than Chobham, or old T-72B turret NERA. May be there is indeed something missing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That genuinely looks like applique NERA.
      ERA blocks would be smaller, shallower (without as many plates) and more brick-shaped, instead of contoured.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can those plates be worn as body armor?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bottom one has one layer of something in the far-right pocket.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Needs context on what it was captured with, but it looks like applique "BDD" armor. Basically spaced NERA-type armor with thin steel plates, applique because these are very light looking pieces and not thick steel like you would find built into e.g. t-72 turret.

    Geometry is wrong for it to be ERA with missing explosives IMO. Russian design goal is to have some flier plate overlap from common attack aspects but this has far too much overlap from the frontal section. I think the bricks might be sandwiches of steel/ceramic and some elastomer. Looks very light in construction, do some modern Russian vehicles have appliques e.g. Tigr?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like it NERA, but built inside-out. The polymer components are supposed to go between the metal plates, which is also the arrangement of ERA tiles. I guess it might just be a ceramic add-on package for IFVs.
    It's supposed to be on a vehicle, though.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like the add-on 4S20 ERA on modern Russian tank turrets like T-72B3 and T-80BVM. The boxes with the numbers.
    There is one ERA plate still in the open box(the red circle). Such plates should be in those narrow gaps.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Geometry seems to match, good find anon. I will retract my comment on the ERA overlap since I didn't think it would be rotated like that. That way there's usual two plate overlap, and two flier plates per explosive
      t.

      Needs context on what it was captured with, but it looks like applique "BDD" armor. Basically spaced NERA-type armor with thin steel plates, applique because these are very light looking pieces and not thick steel like you would find built into e.g. t-72 turret.

      Geometry is wrong for it to be ERA with missing explosives IMO. Russian design goal is to have some flier plate overlap from common attack aspects but this has far too much overlap from the frontal section. I think the bricks might be sandwiches of steel/ceramic and some elastomer. Looks very light in construction, do some modern Russian vehicles have appliques e.g. Tigr?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They literally put ceramic tiles inside.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, so the case seems solved.

    As for the authenticity of the original picture, my guesstimates are:
    >80% that orcs are waging war with missing explosive fillers
    >20% that ukies took out the fillers after the tank was captured, either for safety, or to stage a "VATNIKS BAD" photo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the bong MoD mentioned in one of their intel posts that the explosive element is missing from ERA on many tanks
      I think they'd know for certain rather than relying on pictures from the internet

      Certainly at the start of the war though, there was explosive in the 4th Guards T-80BVMs fitted with this armor

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's that brown/beige thing on the left, the one with the spike coming out? I've seen it a number of times now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          APFSDS round of some variety

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's an APFSDS shell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          An APDSFS shell

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does that say BM26 on the dart? That's practically training ammo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That's practically training ammo
          Tbf it'll still skewer 95% of what it encounters in Ukraine from any angle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, it'll take anything except MBTs at longer ranges from the front, just a curious insight. I'd imagine the ammo rations lean heavily on HEAT and HE-frag. I wonder if mobilising large amounts of tanks from warehouses has lead to training ammo being reassigned as live ammo for the deployment. The tanks in storage probably don't have autoloaders updated to take the longer modern rounds anyways

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >3BM26
          >training ammo
          bro what?
          It had decent performance for an early 80s APFSDS round, and while not top of the line anymore, It is dangerous any Soviet tank not fitted with Kontakt-5 or better

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Soviets use older warshots as training ammo, I would've expected atleast Mango or Lekalo darts.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No the Russians use 3P31 as training ammo.
              There is a good reason. If the gunner fucks up and indexes a slow velocity HEAT/HE when the gun is loaded with APFSDS, and he aims at a a target ~1000-2000m away, the barrel is pointed sky high and the APFSDS round zooms and lands over 10km. 3P31 and other training APFSDS like M865 and L29A1 are designed so that once the round slows down to a certain velocity, the drag coefficient increases massively and the round slows down relatively quickly. Which means that the training ammo ballistic matches the war ammo to about ~2000m, depending on the design

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                3BM17 was definitely used as practice ammo, it is complete dogshit compared to even bm26 tho.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reactive armor blocks bolted on a spacer plate

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >split washers
    ISHYGDDT

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i-is that official Nagatoro art?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Expensive floor tiles for some lucky Ukrainians bathroom and kitchen when the war is over.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >floor tiles
      tread lightly

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they'll cost an arm and some legs

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No way to tell what it was supposed to be but I think those are plywood boards added to give armor modules more weight. Looks like someone pocketted the money and faked the armor.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, these tiles are supposed to be here.
      What *else* is supposed to be there, however, is an explosive layer sandwiched between each pair of tiles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are we sure they're ballistic grade ceramics and not some kitchen tile? I don't think you can drill through armor grade ceramics without cracking them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These ceramics aren't there to stop anything kinetic, they just disrupt the HEAT jet together with the blast of the explosive insert and the empty space inside.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If the tiles aren't ballistic grade then they might as well be steel or wood. They aren't doing much to stop that much pressure.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like shitty ERA that's been turned into perfectly fine NERA by not having enough explosives to put in the plates. There's even 1 in the bottom-most that has at least something welded into place. Though I do wonder why it's exposed like that on the sides.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Though I do wonder why it's exposed like that on the sides.
      They removed the covers.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These is a complete 4S22 ERA array. Each box 10 explosive elements.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
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          Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uhhh, those are clearly missing their explosive mass.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, maybe in your head.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, the explosive goes in between the steel plates. Thats how ERA works. It sure doesn't look like there is anything between those steel plates, despite there clearly being space for something to go.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, maybe in your head.

      You blind moron there is literally ONE of the explosive elements present in the entire assembly, and none in the other two assemblies.

      Uhhh, those are clearly missing their explosive mass.

      is right.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks like sandwich to me

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From the Patent
    A set of modular protection means on the tank turret consists of the following units: nine reactive armor containers 2 (Fig. 2); three lattices 4, 5, 6; two frames 1, 3 fastening containers of dynamic protection. Dynamic protection containers are installed on the sides of the tower and are welded boxes with removable covers 9 and frames 8, in which elements of dynamic protection (EDZ) 4S22 7 are laid between the thrown plates 10. The dynamic protection containers are attached to frames 1, 3 with bolts and washers. The frames, in turn, are bolted with washers to the tower, instead of previously dismantled boxes of spare parts.

    The total number of EDZ 4S22 installed in additional tower containers is 90 pcs.

    1 - frame left; 2 - dynamic protection container; 3 - frame right; 4 - right grille; 5 - medium lattice; 6 - lattice left; 7 - EDZ 4S22; 8 - frame for EDZ and missile plates; 9 - cover; 10 - throwable plates

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RedEffect correct as usual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, the explosive goes in between the steel plates. Thats how ERA works. It sure doesn't look like there is anything between those steel plates, despite there clearly being space for something to go.

      I find it likely that these tanks were shipped from reserves / long term storage so fast that no one remembered to follow proper procedure for making them combat ready (including fitting the ERA modules with explosive inserts).

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So if there is no explosive in the ERA does that make it's ERA effectively useless? Could we potentially see a Ukrainian T-62 kill a T72 or T80? Or is it not that bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ceramic plates still do something. Also this is the armor for the turret side.

      If the front ERA is missing, you still have the main frontal armor. But yeah, armor protection against modern weapons would be greatly diminished.

      >Could we potentially see a Ukrainian T-62 kill a T72 or T80?
      Not from the front. And besides only the Russians dug up the T-62.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So if there is no explosive in the ERA does that make it's ERA effectively useless? Could we potentially see a Ukrainian T-62 kill a T72 or T80? Or is it not that bad.

        I doubt we will see Ukrainian use captured T-62s. It's too different to what they already have, from ammunition to crew requirements.
        Can a T-62 kill a T-64/72/80/90
        Yes, but the other tanks have a higher chance of killing it

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    jfc russia..

    I don't even have the energy to feel secondhand embarassment for these fuckups anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There’s plenty more opportunities for fuck ups at this rate. I am guessing Azerbaijan flare up is going to produce more bumbling russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm betting they'll think just because it's the bumfuck Caucasus and not Ukraine they can do some war-crime shit and get away with it, and it completely blows up in their face.

        Dumbfucks thought Bucha will never get out.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if it is possible, that some miner can use this explosives, why not take it from destroyed tanks and build IEDs from it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do that when you can just take the ERA off and use it on your own tanks
      This also would require the russian ERA to have any fucking explosives

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For Kontakt-1 the filler in each bricks is two 260 gram blocks of RDX. You'd probably need a few for an effective IED. At that point just take the tank's HE shells.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could these be damages modules they took off and they moved the explosives to undamaged ones? Especially since the one still has a single charge that it looks like might have gotten jammed in there so they couldn't remove it.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russian MREs

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So why would there be only 1 explosive in there? If it was never put in, there wouldn't be 1. If it was stolen to sell, there wouldn't be 1. Seems like the most likely explanation is someone yanked them out just prior to taking the photo for propaganda purposes, but they just forgot 1.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the other explanation is that, because the blocks are stored with the explosive removed, when they were put on someone forgot to put the explosive back in, probably because they were in a rush to bring the tank online and send it out of the factory.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But again, why would there still be 1 in there?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          too small for some guy to take out after the last time the ERA block was put into storage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a bizarre fucking assertion, that the only time someone can do something wrong is during a propaganda shoot. It's most likely because the funds for the ERA were appropriated in large part by the factory owners and that the *very* limited materials that were actually procured, were in fact distributed, something to the tune of a single piece of explosive per several tanks, evidently. The casings are the same as the vinyl facades during the Sochi olympics, and their namesake Potemkin village before them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah bullshit you're speculating same as anyone and your guess makes less sense than mine. Oh we only have 1 single piece of HE of the 1,000 required per tank so let's just put in 1 useless half slab of explosive in each of 1,000 tanks instead of making an entire complete ERA package for 1 tank or whatever. How fucking retarded. You smug cunt if you don't know just say so or don't even reply.

        too small for some guy to take out after the last time the ERA block was put into storage

        Yet there are 5 other "small" slots devoid of explosive in the same image. So yet again why the ONE remaining? He got out the other 5 plus however many dozens of other small sized HE slaps from all the other ERA packs but he couldn't get THAT one out? So they just let someone store HE anyway because fuck it that's not dangerous to leave unaccounted around peasant conscripts at all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because whatever the case there was some lazy sod who didn't pull it out.

          I don't know why that's so fucking hard to believe, maybe because in your propaganda angle it doesn't make fucking sense for something planned and pre screened to let a detail get through.
          So, maybe follow the fucking links of logic there and perhaps realize that it is far less likely it was a "propaganda photo," and instead realize that it's far more likely the russians at uralvagonzavod are just a pack of underpaid and or inept retards with no resources being worked overtime to push tanks from mothball to operational status forgot to fucking inspect the ERA packs, which they got from someone else and probably assumed the other assembly line did their jobs right.

          Why do you think one of the plant managers recently got arrested by the FSB? For telling the Ukrainians about tank models that they themselves have worked with for fucking decades? No, because they probably actually looked for once and found a bunch of unassembled fucking ERA Boxes, and a QC manager slacking off.

          >So they just let someone store HE anyway because fuck it that's not dangerous to leave unaccounted around peasant conscripts at all.
          Yeah, look at the russian's performance in this fucking war and tell me that what you proposed here doesn't fit in line with their actions.
          >Nono, we can just leave ammo depots in obvious spots with barely any camouflage and routine traffic in and out, it's fine, it's not like we're fighting someone who may target our depot
          >nono, it's fine, we can pull out a bunch of people from Kharkiv oblast, the Ukrainians are attacking Kherson, there's no possible way they're building up somewhere else, someone would tell us, we would know
          >nono, it's perfectly fine smoking in an ammo or fuel storage
          with all the embarassing things the RA has been doing I do not think that a situation like
          >Oh, I cannot get this last bit of explosive out- oh well, tis a small piece anyway
          is unreasonable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can see where someone tried and failed to pry the last one out. If the people who took the photo did that they wouldn't include that one and it would just be the picture of the two without any explosives left.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It couldn't possibly be pried out. It's sandwiched between to sheets, it has to be slid out like a pack of playing cards. It doesn't make sense to try to pry it out instead of shoving it out with the tip of a crowbar which that mark doesn't imply.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe the unit had all the half-size explosive fillers required, but ran out of full-size fillers halfway between vehicles.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kaktus BMP turret amor. The blocks on the turret pic related. Its complete

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think this is propaganda shot because the guy from OP is making cool "reviews" video about tanks they drive on youtube. Though of course your shitty 4chan 2.0 doesn't care about such content. But anyway not all tanks are like this. Crew can also take explosives with themselves in some cases

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It could be ceramic armor which should give additional protection against KE. Modern HEAT would most likely go through it with ease.

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