a 7200t "frigate" with only 8 AShMs, a 127mm and 2 CWIS.
are the Aryans retarded? what's the point?
a 7200t "frigate" with only 8 AShMs, a 127mm and 2 CWIS. are the Aryans retarded? what's the point?
a 7200t "frigate" with only 8 AShMs, a 127mm and 2 CWIS.
are the Aryans retarded? what's the point?
But how many refugees can it fit?
2 helis because u-boats are basically the only real threat in the baltic
2 helicopters isn't hard unless you're american,
I love the Merlin and the Wildcat, they look so....military.
So its eqipped to take on 8 Moskva class cruisers, what's the problem?
>what's the point?
Stabilization missions. Basically sitting in the ocean for months on end without returning to a home port and fuck with pirates and such threats.
>only 4000nm of range
>stay at sea for extended periods
yah, nah. at 12 knots that's like 2 weeks of fuel.
>Other important requirements are long maintenance periods: It should be possible to deploy Baden-Württemberg-class frigates for up to two years away from homeports with an average sea operation time of more than 5,000 hours per year (nearly 60%) which includes operation under tropical conditions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg-class_frigate
Operating out of a port away from home isn't the same as staying at sea permanently anon. Many ships do this without eve advertising it as a feature. Although i imagine the German public were fed this story to make it seem like there's a reason it's lacking significant capabilities.
It's a pointless abomination due to two decades of Merkel idiocy.
I will never get over the irony of a Red/Green government being the one that decides to finally stop being unarmed.
Yeah, it'S a line of bullshit and everyone knows it. The slightly less official line is that they are fairly easy to equip with various potential systems, 'fitted-for-but-not-with light'. How much, if any of that ever happens is a diffeerent matter, of course.
Yes. Korvette and Fregatte are the class types of choice. Becasue Zerstörer soudns so aggressive.
Also, the German naval ranks specifically have Korvettenkapitän (OF-3) and Fregattenkapitän (OF-4), so having the ship classes probably 'feels' right.
>Becasue Zerstörer soudns so aggressive.
this + frigate also sounds less expensive
>It's a pointless abomination due to two decades of Merkel idiocy.
t. rural Ronny who never heard of Ressortprinzip or that the requirements definition and development began even before the Merkel years.
>ITT, what is underway replenishment
Something Germany can't do at range because 3 of it's oilers are tiny and limited to 16kts and even the larger (but still small at 20k tons) Berlin class only has endurance of 45 days. And if you're bringing support ships why exactly do you need a special ship designed for being forward deployed? Ya don't. Burke and other euro navies forward deploy just fine.
the german public doesnt give a fuck about weapons. its a decidedly non-militaristic society.
This. There is zero awareness for military stuff. Whenever military conflicts appear in the news all they want to do is pray that it ends immediately. Why is it happening? Who is fighting for what? What weapons are used? Don't care, it's evil and it's better if it stops now.
This and by extension
so kindly tell us what the fuck it is precisely that takes up thousands of tons on this thing to make it able to do all that?
It's a long endurance (2 years) OPV exclusively built for COIN.
I think it looks pretty neat at least. I wouldn't have thought it was a frigate though. That being said, don't the krauts call everything a frigate?
So more capable than the thousands of even smaller vessels the chinks wave their tiny dick about and claim make them a serious naval power?
at least the Type-52D is an actual warship with a payload reasonable for its size.
this is just an obese OPV to make sure Africans aren't killing eachother too much.
HAHA, I present you it's successor. 10,000t frigate, 16 VLS cells total.
Nice
The Deutsche Marine doesn't know what it wants to be. It is not funded enough to be an offensive force and Germany has little need for force projection. It has little to fear from its neighbors as they all have better navies and are all allies and has always considered itself primarily a land power.
In that kind situation, it's very hard to get funding for new surface vessels, so you have to make a broader case for Multi-Purpose ships that can do a wide varity of tasks that can justfiy its expense.
How do you say "missile catcher" in Aryan?
It's heavier than its predecessor yet can't carry the 32 VLS cells of the Sachsen class
what the actual fuck is going on here?
This German video explains the thinking behind this ship class.
What it says:
>other German frigates are built for combat missions
>they never do combat missions but instead end up doing coastguard jobs in the Mediterranean
>we never actually need our AD suits and other weapons for these missions so we built a ship without them because it saves money and needs less crew
>previous ships need 4 weeks just to move into and out of area of operations where they stay for 4-5 months on average
>new ship can stay there for 2 years, so it frees up other ships
>Navy has a constant manpower crisis so it needs ships with high automatization
>multi-crew concept with exchangeable crews that are on board for 6 months each reduce the downtime and increase availability of the ship
All of this is done by other navies without special modification, see Burke and Type 23 deployments.
>no more need for weapons after the Great War to end all wars
we should've just license produced FREMM like the US
German shipyards regularly build overgunned corvettes and frigates for foreign navies. No need to buy abroad. Just order the correct package next time.
true. Change the 30mm guns for RIM-116 and it'd be ideal.
what about it? Israel actually cares for its military, so those corvettes are very well equipped and not useless paperweights
Undergunned and oversized ships is a proud German tradition
That actually sounds about right for an FF. Frigates are designed to be cheap and fast.
>1,900t "corvette"
>x32 Barak-8 SAMs
>x40 iron dome point defense interceptors
>x12 Gabriel/Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles
>x6 324mm Torpedo Tubes
>x1 76mm gun
>x2 30mm autocannons
>x1 CWIS
>Seahawk Heli
>half the price of an LCS
israelite bros...c'mon
>Saar
See the shitskins are keeping close to each other
Only enough endurance for a 7 day cruise lets you pack a lot more ordinance per ton of displacement.
>endurance: coastal
and it would probably be swamped in an Atlantic gale
>Rnage: no
>Survivability: no
Why does no-one else do this?