9mm

>MUH 2 WORLD WARS
9mm Luger served in 2 World Wars, how come fudds don't go crazy over it like 45 ACP?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    45 was on the winning side
    Twice

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      9mm was on both sides in ww2 so it counts as 3 world wars

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        In WW1 too

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cause 9mm is a wimpy yuro cartridge

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >https://youtu.be/5x4siLUmlzU?t=160
      lol 9mm

      Garand thumb already proved they perform the same. Also that 9mm has some advantages over .45

      A guy on drugs is gonna shrug off a couple pistol rounds regardless of which rounds you used

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        holy frick, wow bro some eceleb made a video about it. Well gee I take back everything I said about 9mm, clearly the trust fund kid with a mustache knows so much more than anyone else and his opinion completely negates all the real world situations where 9mm wasn't sufficient (situations going back 100 years now).

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

          Its a solid reeeeeee though. Sometimes science and statistics just don't add up to weird real world shit. Often times real world shit adds up to what the shit really is. Despite the calculating facts of practice or mathing numbers on on paper.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Was this guy shot with a 9mm or a .45?
            >If trauma surgeons can't tell, why should we?
            Something something Suave shampoo

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >facts aren't real life
            this is the most moronic thing i've ever read

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >clearly the trust fund kid
          Only a communist would see loving parents providing for their children as something negative.
          Frick off my board.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          your reading comprehension needs work, moron-kun. All pistols other than memeshit like 50 AE and 7.5 FK are mediocre. Stopping power's a fudd myth. It's all about shot placement.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        While I too have seen flannel daddy's video. I think this video demonstrates the difference of 9mm and .45 visually much clearer https://youtu.be/EvVLGGtVMzQ
        while 9mm is arguably the most mainstream and standardized of the two, I do think .45 does have an extremely appreciated place in handgun calibers I mean the fabled USP loves chewin on the stuff, the FNX is a great pistol, etc etc.

        I personally value the larger impact when the projectile transfers its kinetic energy to the target resulting in a higher likelihood of throwing the target off balance.

        I also live in a mag-cap-cucked state so that also affects my mindset even if I have 9mm pre-awb pews.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Shooting a torso secured to a table is the same as shooting a human being.
        Aight.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Drugs don't make you bullet proof. If your blood pressure drops or your CNS gets hit no drug in the world will stop you from dying or becoming incapacitated

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, but drugs can allow you to temporarily ignore the pain, fear, and obvious injury in a way a sober person can't
          A sober person doesn't just "walk away" while being 5 seconds from dead
          you should look at reports of insurgents using extreme quantities of certain drugs in Iraq

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't disagree there, but how would 10mm be any different in such a scenario? You either hit the guy in the CNS and incapacitate him or you don't. Anything other than that is relying on waiting for a bleed out or a psychological stoppage. And there's been plenty of cases were pure will without drugs has allowed suspects to be shot 13 times in the body to the point they died in the hospital but we're able to trade fire with the police for minutes despite being mortally wounded.

            As far as I'm concerned I either popped their grape/severed their spine or I didn't shoot them. A psychological or blood pressure drop stop is a bonus.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bigger hole / more internal damage giving you a slightly better chance at hitting or at least grazing or disturbing something vital . 10 mm will cause greater preassure loss all other things being equal compared to a 9mm. Also the " shot around the world"(arm shot misses the humerus , enters the toracic cavity and stops just short of the heart) are much less likely with the 10.
              When you choose a caliber in the same category you are choosing your tradeoffs.
              The caliber debate is always ongoing due to those tradeoffs. Every person has their enviroment and personal quirks (size skill and talent for different aspects of shooting) to take into account when choosing a gun. 9 seems to serve most people well nuff though

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Facts

                All it takes is for the US Army to adopt 5.7 and its all over for the 9mm. And one day they defiantly will.

                And yes the Mighty 10 is better then 45 across the board. 45acp Sad Boys should of bought a 10.

                There are no good guns in 10mm, it’s a dying cartridge and I wish people that don’t even own them would stop aping it as the end all be all.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on what you mean by good but Dan Wessons are very well-made and Glocks handle it with excellent reliability.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There are no good guns in 10mm
                The Glock 40 would like a word.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The reality is all the highest level shooters stick with 9mm. Anything from Navy Seal israelitetoobers to competition shooters (yes, even when it comes to their actual practical carry gun). The way you're talking about calibers and skill has an implication that only experienced shooters are capable of handling 10mm while the rest of us "plebs" are relegated to 9mm. However the truth is the opposite. Those who don't feel comfortable in their ability to place shots on the CNS (which is a small target) would rather just try to min/max the damage they can cause to the body. Those who are capable of hitting the CNS want a low recoil high-capacity caliber to keep allowing them chances at hitting that CNS multiple times if need be.

                10mm has it's place but I don't think it's superior to 9mm when discussing things like CCW or Duty. I'd love a Glock 40 for innawoodz

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was not trying to imply that only skilled shooters can use a 10 mm effectively. Im of the opinion (not stated) that every gun requires knowledge and some skill to operate at least semieffectively , a more powerfull caliber plays very little role in the ability to shoot (unless you are in the realm of 44 magnum and above ) because both require proper grip roper grip and developing gripstrenght to controll the 10 mm is not that difficult to achive for most people (provided you are not a 140 lbs 5ft tall vegan never seen the sun pale bunny that has never done a proper days work in her life).
                I was saying that they are different and that when you compare calibers of the same category
                9mm to 10mm are full sized handgun cartriges and are aproximately in the same category, you can however get smaller gats in those calibers especially the 9mm, but you would not put 9x19 in the same category as a 380, 32, and 25...i think
                and that the difference between the 2 (and others like 40sw, 45 ecc) are their effectiveness in very, very , very specific situations . How many times does the "shot around the world" happen, probably not often , or if it does happen often it does not ussually determine the outcome of the firefight (magdumping , or a dome/ centremass hit on the sunovab***h is what ends a lot of fights , as well as people "giving up" due to being shot or being shot at ). However different shooters are better served by different guns and calibers and different enviroments are also better suited to different calibers and guns . Example a thick winter coat won't stop a bullet or even slow it down all that much but might clog your holowpoint preventing expantion, in which case a bigger caliber/hole might be prefferable however, magdumping, centre mass and headshots will likely overcome most ammo deficiencies.
                What i was saying in too many words is the answer to why use a 10mm
                >haha biger rock make shadowman go foreversleep faster then smaller rock

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        ?t=6

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?t=160
    lol 9mm

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      that was purely the drugs/alcohol that made him appear fine. he couldn't have done shit if he tried

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2:29
      >"Frick you... Black person..."
      lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If a male cop did what that b***h did, he'd go to jail.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the guy who got shot was white
        Nevermind

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Female police officers make me seethe.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I love how the b***h is slow to answer when asked repeatedly about the suspect having a weapon.
        You can see the wheels turning in her head in slow-mo

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shoots a guy in the lungs twice
      >incapacitated in under a minute
      looks like it worked to me, better shot placement and a few more rounds and he would have dropped even sooner.
      >yeah but if the holes were 0.2" bigger he would have died instantly
      wrong, try again

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        in under a minute
        See, the problem is, if he was armed too, then that's 60 seconds of return fire you have to worry about.

        And let me tell you, if you want to carry, you fricking better not shoot anyone unless they're armed. Look up the story of Ian Cranston if you don't believe me. Black dude was sexually assaulting his fiance. Cranston steps in, gets punched twice and knocked to the ground. Comes to, gets up, draws his pistol - black dude comes at him again so Cranston fires. 10 years in prison.

        So, defending yourself against a beating with a firearm (at least, if you're a white guy defending yourself against a black guy) is defacto illegal. You just have to take the beating.

        That means your firearm is only useful against an armed attacker. And that means 60 seconds is bad news.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good job picking a single part of my statement and ignoring all other factors zoomer. She shot him in the lungs, twice, with a large time gap between the shots. From the distance she was at I could have dumped 3 124gr +p hsts into that guy's heart in a little over a second. She was basically at muzzle distance, but being both a woman and a cop, she wasn't able to hit shit. A decently competent shooter could have ended this conflict in the blink of an eye. Proving once again, shot placement and training matter most with handguns.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >black dude comes at him again
          There any video or autopsy report to confirm this?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you just have to take the beating
          who said anything about me taking a beating? just because you're a twiggy moron who can't fight doesn't mean you need a gun, it means you didn't have a strong father figure. your dumb weak ass would be just as likely to shoot the person you're trying to save in that scenario.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao, women have no place in law enforcement. At least he consented to it by saying "shoot me." Love how she says suspect down when he just lays on his sleeping roll like he's casually going to take a nap.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking grim. Why did they send just the one tiny b***h? She can't overpower a man twice her size, so her only recourse is her gun.
      This didn't have to end in the crazy bum dying.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Diversity/inclusion ツ

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you ever catch the eye of a female cop, I hope you brought your bulletproof vest!
      she actually shot him on command, what a fricking joke

      holy frick, wow bro some eceleb made a video about it. Well gee I take back everything I said about 9mm, clearly the trust fund kid with a mustache knows so much more than anyone else and his opinion completely negates all the real world situations where 9mm wasn't sufficient (situations going back 100 years now).

      THAT'S RIGHT BROTHER, IF ONLY SHE HAD .45 THAT !CRIMINAL! WOULD'VE VAPORIZED INTO NOTHING JUST LIKE THE JAPS

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  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    9mmgays are fudds in their own ways

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    5.7 over 9mm
    10mm over 45

    9 and 45 are on their last legs. 10 more years max.

    9mm will linger for the sake of compact ccw. But even then 30 super is better for that roll, it just needs to catch on.

    45 imo is already dead. Modern enhancements allow 10mm to shoot with less recoil now on top of the already higher capacity, flatter trajectory, speed and power. The mighty 10 destroys the 45.

    Revolvers will last forever. Long live the Magnum rounds!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      5.7 is a meme cartridge, and 10mm is effectively dead.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Solid dose of reality.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Effectively dead? Companies keep coming out with 10mm guns

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          And how many do they actually sell in comparison to their other caliber offerings? If it weren't for the fact that 10mm can use the same frame as a .45 ACP it wouldn't be made at all.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Role, not roll.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Has any handgun overcome 5.7's need for a long barrel yet? I don't see much point in having a smol bullet if it needs to be put in a full size service pistol anyway

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >roll

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Facts

      All it takes is for the US Army to adopt 5.7 and its all over for the 9mm. And one day they defiantly will.

      And yes the Mighty 10 is better then 45 across the board. 45acp Sad Boys should of bought a 10.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Facts

      All it takes is for the US Army to adopt 5.7 and its all over for the 9mm. And one day they defiantly will.

      And yes the Mighty 10 is better then 45 across the board. 45acp Sad Boys should of bought a 10.

      The 9mm will be around way... WAY longer than 10 years. Simply because of all the reloading tools, all the ammo, and most importantly the MILLIONS of 9mm firearms that people arent going to suddenly dump away. Only the tacticool morons will dump their 9mms when the government adopts a new handgun cartridge. Matter of fact the US Army and Air Force just bought a new sub-machinegun in 9mm, the APC9.

      I won't deny that 5.7 is a superior cartridge if we're talking longer barreled carbines that is. The APC9 can be incredibly compact with a 4 inch barrel and produce decent ballistics.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. America didn't use it so it's useless for boomers LARPing as their fathers.
    2. Liking 9mm is not a sign of a fudd because it is the best pistol caliber in history.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2. Liking 9mm is not a sign of a fudd because it is the best pistol caliber in history.
      t. fudd

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    you don't interact with fudds except the tulpa fudd in your head, how tf do you know that real fudds don't like 9mm?

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am pro 9mm myself, but a lot of people don't realize that those 9mm deaths came piping hot out of 10 inch barrel. longer barrel definitely makes a difference in damage, fmj or not.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    38 special looks more like a penis so I like it

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because before the advent of good hollow point ammo the 9mm was a far less effective man-stopper than the .45 ACP.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because American morons spazz out over everything that's American and hate everything that's non American.

    See: .45 vs 9mm
    30.06 vs 7.62/5.56
    American shit steel guns vs Glocks
    .50 vs 20mm in airplanes
    American cars vs euro/Japanese cars
    Private healthcare vs Public healthcare

    Everytime the stats clearly prove the foreign thing is better Americans are so brainwashed they find a million cope arguments why the demonstrabley inferior American shit is actually better.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The 9mm Luger only exists because the US Army deemed the .30 Luger cartridge to be too small of a projectile. In response Luger got rid of the .30's case bottleneck and that's how the 9mm was born. You're welcome.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's doesn't even matter if it's actually American. The P-51 was mediocre before its Brit engine saved it, yet Americans wank it off with the fury of a Thai prostitute on a fat rich white guy. If something is perceived as Euro, like the Parabellum, Americans won't ever respect it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seethe more.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    9mm is only effective with hollowpoints.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it lost them both.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The British lost WWII?

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it only counts if Americans used it. Keep this in mind when reading or listening to anything about guns when its from Americans.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    45 ACP is slow as frick but what about Liberty Civil Defense? The bullet is lighter, but it's a 45 ACP going more than double the velocity at 1900 fps.

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