Idk why people were surprised PAC-3 could kill Kinzhals. It's been intercepting Mach 8 Pershing II MARVs since the 90s kek.
If it was out of service for a period I'd count it but it was barely damaged and never rendered inoperable.
Below this post someone will mention Bakhmut, 5 patriots destroyed, one damaged means 50% of all patriots gone because they had two launchers and how Kinzhal isn't a REAL hypersonic
More like 0.1 or 0.08 if we're measuring that way, since it (at most) partially damaged one launcher out of a system with at least 12 different components
However I round down, so still 7-0
fair
You don't get partial credit.
Also it's still up in the air whether it was an actual kinzhal hit or unlucky collateral from a malfunctioned interceptor.
>malfunctioned interceptor
It's not even clear if it actually was by russians or just some rocket booster going ACK on it's own.
>some rocket booster going ACK on it's own
own goals still count in matches
You don't get partial credit.
Also it's still up in the air whether it was an actual kinzhal hit or unlucky collateral from a malfunctioned interceptor.
Idk why people were surprised PAC-3 could kill Kinzhals. It's been intercepting Mach 8 Pershing II MARVs since the 90s kek.
If it was out of service for a period I'd count it but it was barely damaged and never rendered inoperable.
Below this post someone will mention Bakhmut, 5 patriots destroyed, one damaged means 50% of all patriots gone because they had two launchers and how Kinzhal isn't a REAL hypersonic
More like 0.1 or 0.08 if we're measuring that way, since it (at most) partially damaged one launcher out of a system with at least 12 different components
However I round down, so still 7-0
I remember when the Russian MoD first said that they destroyed the Patriot with a single missile but then someone had to explain to them that the Patriot is a complex with a lot of parts to it and they backtracked and released that headline instead.
>he actually thinks russia, the primary user of AA batteries in the world, doesnt know how an AA battery works
this is such low effort garbage
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You mean the same country that managed to develop an AA battery that did a fucking u turn entirely on video, and then turned around and claimed that system was better than patriot. Despite Patriot being able to intercept hypersonic and no Russian SAM can claim the same.
Remember when they released footage of the "NATO Merc" corpses on snake island and didn't blur the belt buckle that had the Russian/Soviet Naval Infantry logo on it, then re-released the footage with the whole body blurred.
Russia/soviet union uses(d) a distributed SAM system for wide area defense in the form of the S300 for like 50 damn years. Their leaders are aware that a patriot battery is not a single vehicle
>then someone had to explain to them that the Patriot is a complex with a lot of parts to it
I have non doubt that the russian military knows that
Whoever ran the media bit might not though, and to be fair, given less than optimal space to spread out a battery's parts and a warhead up to the task you could take out a battery with one missile.
Lmao sorry let me finish
Where’s the Soviet Union after they failed there?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Soviet left Afghanistan in 89, and collapsed in 92. So our collapse should be by 2025 if the curse holds. I think it'll be closer to 2030 or so. We have more momentum but its clear we are collapsing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but its clear we are collapsing.
God I know you really want us too but we aren’t, we really aren’t, our military spending alone says enough to make your wish a opium pipe dream
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The interest payment on our debt exceeds our military's budget. Only way to pay back debt is to hyperinflate the currency or default, both of which will wipe out the economy and the military.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon we owe most of that debt to ourselves, you get told this every time. Anyway I’d love to see any nation call in that debt, I’m sure that would do more harm to them considering the US IS the world economy at this point
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Anon we owe most of that debt to ourselves, you get told this every time
This is meaningless. If an American citizen buys a bond and it is not paid back or is paid back in worthless currency, what do you think happens? Capital flight to other currencies or commodities.
Most bonds are held by corporations and large banks. If the value of those bonds becomes zero or near zero overnight, you essentially wipe out trillions in fake assets from the market which will cause a cascading failure of banks as they become critically under capitalized. SVB but with no breaks on the train and people's life savings being reduced to nothing in a few days as banks bail in.
This is why a debt default is not an option concerning budget negotiations in DC.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then the world falls along with us, that’s why you fucks lock step with us, it’s all fake, has been for decades, now quit pretending like your sone economics major and start crying about trannies and garden gnomes, it’s marginally less embarrassing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Then the world falls along with us
Not really. Other countries would still continue on perfectly fine. Eurocucks would probably lose 50% of their wealth overnight though lel. And since I'm invested out of the USD and have been for a long time, a default will only hurt my enemies, namely people like you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Not really. Other countries would still continue on perfectly fine. >Eurocucks would probably lose 50% of their wealth overnight though lel. >And since I'm invested out of the USD and >have been for a long time, a default will only >hurt my enemies, namely people like you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon you seem to be forgetting china has a lot of that debt, funny considering you fags love to mention that, but not that it might pop that bubble they have going
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're retarded
If you borrow money from yourself, future you will have less money
In a complex economy this can take several forms, such as rising costs, work intensification, reduced consumption, lowered quality of goods and services, etc but the result is the same
>Then the world falls along with us
Not really. Other countries would still continue on perfectly fine. Eurocucks would probably lose 50% of their wealth overnight though lel. And since I'm invested out of the USD and have been for a long time, a default will only hurt my enemies, namely people like you.
>I'm invested out of the USD and have been for a long time
RIP lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but its clear we are collapsing
You should leave ruzzia before it's too late.
Russian destroying an abandoned/overrun ukie S300 launcher in early in the war.
Naturally being a russian he chose the stupidest possible way to do it.
>killing itself
You mean hitting a bus
Vatmorons so desperate for a win they're willing to give up the kinzhal kill claim for patriot malfunction kill.
So this explains how patriot managed to only get damaged, Kinzhal/Kalibr damaging a patriot system makes 0 sense considering they have huge warheads and patriot is completely unarmored, any hit by those systems would outright destroy whichever component was nearby. An interceptor with a tiny warhead returning to sender and scratching the paint with a near miss makes much more sense
>An interceptor with a tiny warhead returning to sender
You have a good system there, how many do you have, more than 1.000 and they return to senders?
lol, USA is fucked
>the system malfunctioned, america is finished! >ignore the fact that it did its job and intercepted all the hypersonic wunderwaffles and and shitty tomahawk clones
cope
dont bother posting it, the retard shills on here will unironically claim its ''debris from shot down missiles'' falling. ive had them cope at that video several times before
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can't produce a single photo of the damaged patriot.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you cant produce a single photo of the 6 shot down kinzhals
so we have Reuters showing Patriot killing itself and a livestream showing arrivals on AD and these "people" repeat war propaganda without any proof? glowing
dont bother posting it, the retard shills on here will unironically claim its ''debris from shot down missiles'' falling. ive had them cope at that video several times before
so we have Reuters showing Patriot killing itself and a livestream showing arrivals on AD and these "people" repeat war propaganda without any proof? glowing
My man its been almost a week from that strike. The only images we have of destruction on the ground is a hole in a playground and some burning busses. Surely if the strike WASNT successfully intercepted you'd have some kind of proof of it doing damage, right? Every other strike on Kiev over the last year gives us dozens of pictures of destroyed buildings, reports of dead civilians, hours of power outages. Why is there NOTHING like that for this strike? Why is the only evidence of damage you have a few explosions in the darkness?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They had UAVs up in the area as well. If they'd actually destroyed it they would've posted the pictures online instantly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, they were shot down.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The only images we have of destruction on the ground is a hole in a playground and some burning busses. Surely if the strike WASNT successfully intercepted you'd have some kind of proof of it doing damage, right?
you do realize ukraine and especially kyiv have an absolutely iron grip on what media gets out to the western media sphere, right? you think a civilian is going to be able to actually photograph and leak anything of military importance?
the influencer who filmed this video
>it did its job and intercepted >no proof >malfunction >proof
livestreamed by a ukro e-girl from Kiev russian arrivals against patriot
was arrested and throw in jail by the sbu for merely showing actual missile impacts hitting the city
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are posting in a thread where journalists uploaded multiple photos of a patriot launcher own goaling.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
KYS
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A warhead self-destructing, its target already destroyed. The video shows it falling slowly to earth. KYS (keep yourself safe).
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i suggest you actually watch the video of that. again, youre completely biting into a propaganda narrative designed to distract you from the fact that missiles actually hit the city
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then where is the damage. Where is the power outage, where is any evidence of a single thing actually hitting a target. You failed to even mission kill a patriot lmao.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
youre just arguing in circles now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Asking for proof is not circular, ESL.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
its been explained to you why you will never see ''proof'', because the ukranian military are the only ones who hold those photos, and they wont release them whether they exist or dont exist. can your pea brain understand that?
the fact that the official narrative has changed 3-4 times in a week and you morons continue to accept it is funny af
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Non-starter cope.
There are photos of the Patriot itself already in this thread, and there are photos of burning cars and an impact crater already, not to mention Russia's own drones overhead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>There are photos of the Patriot itself already in this thread
there is actually a video, go and watch it to understand why it wasnt a patriot destroying itself. that video was also taken by a western news outlet...who obviously have to request approval from kyiv to post it.
>and there are photos of burning cars and an impact crater already
which were released by the ukranian government. y
>not to mention Russia's own drones overhead.
orlans cannot get within range of kyiv to take BDA. this has been the case for months. or does your amazing super duper patriot system not know how to shoot them down?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
did you know russia has imaging satellites?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You've invented a reality for yourself where you can believe anything without proof, and any counter-evidence can be safely ignored. Hypersonic missiles can blow up buildings (that have people in them) in a city of almost 3 million, and absolutely no photographic evidence or testimony will come out.
You are genuinely Trusting The Plan -Z, and will believe anything Russian telegram tells you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you can believe anything without proof >7 KINZHAL INTERCEPTED!!!1! >no proof >make a thread
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Where did the khinzals go? Where did the fragments come from?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
post proof, what is this thread about, a coercial for patriot? is this the only pic we are supposed to believe? the only photos and videos we have show the patriot malfuntioning and russian arrivals
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and absolutely no photographic evidence or testimony will come out
read the thread, the owners of the webcam and influencer who posted the missiles were quite literally arrested. you see what kyiv wants you see, the irony of you accusing me of ''inventing reality'' is off the charts
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
may i see it?
those are not screenshots, they are photos from reuters. if you a video just post it, my glowing friend
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2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that's why you didn't post it earlier, the video is even worse, it's not 1 but 2 patriot missiles falling
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what do you expect flaming wreckage to look like?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
if flaming wreckage is how it's supposed to work why do they put them in the middle of the city?
it's not supposed to work like that
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
round and round
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>thread celebrating patriot intercepting 7 Kinzhals >only video posted is 2 patriots intercepting Kiev
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
if the kinzhals hit their targets, where is the rest of your offense? you are a nation capable of combined arms strategies, aren't you?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>your >you are >arent you?
Retard thinks anyone that isnt 110% pro-NATO pro-Ukraine pro-globohomo must be a russian
believe it or not, there's people inside the US that cant get psyopped into supporting war #18745721 like a good little goy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what war?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you're telling me you're completely ambivalent about the russian invasion of ukraine?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>must be a russian
Or any other kind of third world trash.
>believe it or not, there's people inside the US
And all of them aren't white.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you lead-poisoned monkey thirdies were a mistake. You started off confident Kinzhals hit calling random fucks on the internet glowies, then posted still-photos because you didn't even watch the video it was from and you immediately thought it was missiles. Someone else posts the video and now you're embarrassing yourself and moving goalposts about >"W-well it malfunctioned! It's trash!"
It killed 6 Kinzhals for one or two malfunctioning interceptors and your cope is that gravity made them hit the ground under it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What does this have to do with destroyed buildings? A city of 2,800,000 can't post a photo anonymously of their workplace or coffee shop in rubble?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ukrainians have this special beam that stops internet access for very specific sets of people. it's just like that special beam that gives freethinkers lethal cases of covid, and so on.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>A city of 2,800,000 can't post a photo anonymously of their workplace or coffee shop in rubble?
nope. only 8 people even posted footage of the missile strikes, and they were all arrested. please cope some more
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
magical thinking cope
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, literal fact as per the sbu
cope more
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the fact the kinzhal strike wasn't followed up by anything is proof it achieved nothing
sucks to suck doesn't it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it was, they launched another attack literally the next day. one where ukraine claimed they had shot down 29 of 30 missiles
you dont even know the basic facts.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
seems like a pretty poor strategy to me
may i see the damage?
russia sucks at war btw
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>EIGHT PEOPLE were able to record missiles as they were in the air
do you even realize how many more people would be able to see a burning commieblock
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that wouldnt be allowed to post the photos. why is this such a hard concept for you to understand?
kyiv is literally on information blackout. only approved things get out, and if they dont, they are arrested
you dont think its coincidence that literally no news source has posted the video of the influencer filming the missiles actually striking the city? maybe because that goes against the actual narrative..
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>literally no news source has posted the video
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i mean this one
>it did its job and intercepted >no proof >malfunction >proof
livestreamed by a ukro e-girl from Kiev russian arrivals against patriot
retard, you know, the one that actually definitely proves there were missile impacts?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Russia claims
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The info blackout is for sensitive mil assets. Weapons firing with their contrails can have its location geolocated easily.
There are 2.8M people in the city. It's hard to control it and there are other means to get the pic anonymously.
And also, besides boots on the ground, the Russians is lacking sat photos. If they ever destroyed it then they should provide sat photos. So, where is it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This would imply then that the Russians have no effective BDA to begin with. Even if we don't trust Ukrainian reports they're literally all anyone has, including the Russians themselves.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Russians is lacking sat photos. If they ever destroyed it then they should provide sat photos. So, where is it?
the russians dont publish satellite photos and havent done so the entire war.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm gonna say where are the private Rus company satellites then I remember they don't have one.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you dont think its coincidence that literally no news source has posted the video of the influencer filming the missiles actually striking the city? maybe because it's complete bullshit
ftfy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
its not shaheds. the explosion is far too large, and in the video you can hear the whoosh of the missile, not the braaaap of a shahed. please stop coping and shilling
cope some more.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wait, how can we be sure they were arrested? Are there official Ukranian reports or social media posts from the people themselves?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
a statement from the sbu themselves. they also posted their photos online to shame them
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wow, really? The gays posting photos of military equipment and its placement in a city during a war were arrested? That's awful! Surely it's to oppress people and for the sake of disinformation, and not for opsec reasons!
Oy vey!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then stop screching about no ''proofs''
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do Russian reconnaissance satellites have an image resolution below "bomb crater"?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>or does your amazing super duper patriot system not know how to shoot them down?
PAC-3s aren't intended to hunt drone threats. That's why there's other AA in the city. Do you really think Patriot is the only air defense in Kiev?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no. thats why im saying there were no drones over kyiv that night genius. the other guy was claiming that there would have been ''proofs'' in the form of BDA from drones
use basic reading comprehension.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>absence of evidence = evidence of presence
fucking stupid monkey retard
>you do realize ukraine and especially kyiv have an absolutely iron grip on what media gets out to the western media sphere, right?
You're literally linking us livestream footage of the missile interceptors firing/explosions on the ground. Reuters has pictures of an interceptor malfunctioning. Truly an IRON GRIP bud. >you think a civilian is going to be able to actually photograph and leak anything of military importance?
I'm not asking for a photo of the patriot launchers. I'm asking for any evidence of damage to ANYTHING from the strike. Kiev is a city of millions of people, if there was wreckage and destroyed buildings from the strike we'd see pictures of it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Russia can't show us BDA pictures >but they totally can kill fifty HIMARS and five Patriots, believe me!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ukraine cant post BDA photos >but they totally shot down a bajillion missiles and 7 hypersonics, believe me! >the video showing the missiles hitting the city? ignore that!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not the anon but I already posted a sat photo done by some private players.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ukraine is defending and Russia is attacking
To show proof of success of the former, Ukraine simply has to show its buildings are standing and not on fire
To show proof of success of the latter, Russia has to show Patriot launchers destroyed
In the past, Russia has shown videos and pictures of destroyed Ukrainian artillery and missiles, such as Pions, S-300s, M777s, Stormer, etc
Why is it that in the special circumstances of HIMARS and Patriot, Russia is unable to do so?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
now this is some supreme autism
Not the anon but I already posted a sat photo done by some private players.
yeah, your blurry shitty pic of a field didnt show anything
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If a Patriot is destroyed, the grass would have different color and the surrounding lands. Your video proof shows a big explosions. So, may I ask, where is the burnt ground? Don't try to say it grows because grass doesn't grow that very quickly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
why are you assuming that specific location was targeted?
also, how do you know that location is specifically where the patriot systems are set up?
No answer? As I thought.
no, your argument is disingenuous and autistic. flying recon over a random field on the frontlines in eastern ukraine to show a destroyed m777 is slightlyyy different to flying recon over the most heavily fortified city in the world right now
>The unit that received the Patriot PAC 3 did not make secrets either, in the video from the Air Force Command, the division commander wears the chevron of the 138th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Riiiight. So the recon-strike complex that can accurately pinpoint a Patriot to provide targeting telemetry, can't accurately pinpoint the exact same blast site to show pictures of wreckage.
This is why we know Patriot wasn't hit, sweaty.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, because russia doesnt release satellite pics, sweaty.
>The unit that received the Patriot PAC 3 did not make secrets either, in the video from the Air Force Command, the division commander wears the chevron of the 138th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade.
>Despite the fact that the video was shot with maximum observance of secrecy regarding the location of surface-to-air missile system, some interesting moments were still captured.
your article says the exact opposite of what you say it does
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no, because russia doesnt release satellite pics, sweaty
Lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>w-w-we just don't want to release those pics okay!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No answer? As I thought.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>asking Russia to provide pics of Patriot from KIEV >no bother asking Ukraine to provide pics of "intercepted" Kinzhal
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Russia had several state of the art surveillance drones over the site, surely if they were successful they wouldn't wait to upload pics.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no they didnt, russians havent managed to have surveillance drones above kyiv for a long long time you shill
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't if they believe what they write or they are just outright lying
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have three options
A. There were never any khinzals, and Russia is lying about using them
B. There were khinzals, but they're so fucking awful that they missed the capital city entirely, and landed in the woods somewhere where no one can photograph their damage
C. There were khinzals, and the reason no one has seen any damage is that something happened to them mid flight
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you can't believe what you write, you are just outright lying
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have to choose one, anon, there's no other possibilities.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>there's no other possibilities
D. There were khinzals, and the reason no one has seen any damage is because Kiev put people in jail if they post it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>My evidence goes to a different school... in Canada
Shaheed drones. You can see the gepard rounds exploding in the air before they hit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmao.
a 15kg explosion doesnt look like that. nice try buddy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That’s exactly what they like look like. It also explains why the damage was repaired so quickly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
its not shaheds. the explosion is far too large, and in the video you can hear the whoosh of the missile, not the braaaap of a shahed. please stop coping and shilling
dont bother posting it, the retard shills on here will unironically claim its ''debris from shot down missiles'' falling. ive had them cope at that video several times before
You think either slowly falling debris is the impact of a hypersonic ballistic missile, or you think the video of a city in total blackout despite all the video and images from the night of the strike having the city lit brightly is the same is genuinely from the same strike.
Either way you're laughably retarded.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And looks like there place where the unit is in shows no signs of damage.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it is, thats literally the video the influencer was arrested for. you people post such incredible mental gymnastics, there is also no ''slowly falling debris'' in that video
>picture of a missile frame with a clean hole going through it
it's totally not retarded to think that a mach 4 patriot colliding with a khinzal wouldnt completely destroy both missiles
Here's what I mean about cartoon logic.
Velocity isn't what does damage, imparting energy between two bodies is what does damage. Getting shot, if it's a clean through and through doesn't do much damage other than to what's directly in the path of the bullet. Getting shot with hollow point does far more damage because it expands and imparts most if not all of the energy into the target.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>imparting energy between two bodies is what does damage
and two missiles at mach 4 wouldnt impart energy on each other?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes but not their full energy as in my example. As is expected of you ziggers you're too stupid to understand basic physics.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Yes but not their full energy
why not?
For context, I have a degree in engineering, so be very technical in your reply if you can
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Firstly to impart their full energy they would need to collide head on. Any angular collision and you get substantially less energy transfer. Then you factor in the patriot warhead exploding to produce the kill which would cause a a further cushion between the two bodies.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"The collision would not be inelastic because...IT JUST WOULDNT, OKAY?"
Dunning-Kruger: The Post
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no argument
I accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
here's the face you're trying to save:
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>*wounded zigger noises*
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Then you factor in the patriot warhead exploding
I'm fairly certain PAC-3 interceptors that would be used to intercept ballistic missile threats are hit-to-kill kinetic vehicles, aren't they?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yup. PAC-3 would only have HtK and I'm betting that Kinzhal warhead is a little bit tougher since it is made to go Mach 5+ afterall. I'm not surprised of the results since materials can act weird on extreme conditions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
moron are you comparing high-velocity metallic impacts to the effects of a bullet on soft tissue? Are you 7 years old?
Do you not understand that the metallic bodies of these two objects traveling significantly faster than the speed of sound (each, not even accounting for rate of closure), colliding with each other is guaranteed to violently fragment most of either body? Are you sure you understand physics and the physical properties of metals impacting similarly or denser things at very, very high speeds as much as you want to sound like you do?
Here's the helmet of one of the astronauts onboard Space Shuttle Columbia when it was destroyed during reentry. Columbia disintegrated while travelling Mach 13, its outer skin heated to 1600 degrees Celsius, at an altitude of 60km (which is closer to the Karman line than it is to sea-level).
That helmet survived the fiery breakup of a spaceship, then fell forty miles before impacting in a field in Texas, and STILL it survived in a recognizable shape.
But sure, its impossible for a PAC-3 to strike a Kinzhal in a way that doesn't cause both missiles to instantly disappear in a giant cloud of confetti.
you will notice that the zigger shill posted screenshots of a video of falling wreckage, trying to pass it off as an active missile, rather than posting the video itself. this is because the wreckage is falling so slowly in the video that it's clearly not an active missile.
Russia bringing T-55s out of storage is in fact a really good sign for Russia, as much as NAFO trannies try to argue against it.
And you know what? I don't blame you them that much. See, the West and especially America has had their whole perception of war shaped by the last hundred years of foreign interventionist that they've lost sight of any other way of doing things. In WW2 the US had to ship everything across the world, and they shipped Shermans, from the North Africa campaign to Berlin. And they had to, since upgrading would cripple their supply chain. Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins. And that mindset of "you fight war with what you sent" persists today, which is why the US fights insurgents armed with rusty AKs with Abrams.
But they fail to realize that Russia has no global logistic hurdle. A few hour train ride is it. And Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrine to adapt to best fighting their enemy. In the opening days they used the good stuff to permit rapid gains, set the stage. A few months later they swap that out with less modern but still highly effective armor to support the grinding offensive. After all, why put the most modern tanks on the battlefield if arty is doing most of the work? And now, with the Ukrainian military on the verge of collapse, those tanks are being swapped out for T-55s, because what's about to commence is nothing more that a mopping up operation. And throughout it all, the best tanks is Russia won't be taking any losses at all. And that terrifies NATO.
I actually find funny that quote would apply so well to Putin.
Also friendly reminder NATO sisters are real girls with wombs and ovaries, they can create new life, unlike pathetic femboy vatnigs who can only corrupt things.
>your """"hypersonic"""" missiles get humiliated so badly you feel compelled to arrest weapons developers
That's how you know they were definitely intercepted.
those scientists were all arrested separately over the past year. only after the amazing incredible patriot shot down 7 kinzhals did western outlets actually publish the story , and misleadingly made it seem like it happened the day after the strike
Give it a month and those missles will never have existed, “ what? We never made them they were wunderwaffen just a joke!” You’re just silly for thinking they exist hohol! Patriot cannot destroy hypersonic missles, never happened China stronk!!!
The girl got a video out but there's no pictures because info blackout.
Lel.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes, thats why she was arrested.
>a video of nothing >an official statement of nothing
go read them and watch them. then come back and say sorry
You’re such a fucking joke lmao
Wow it showed an explosion, patriot confirmed destroyed!
cope.
An explosion in your video will show a burnt ground retard. And burnt ground cam be clearly seen against the backdrop of green grass.
So retard, where's the burnt ground or a big crater?
see
why are you assuming that specific location was targeted?
also, how do you know that location is specifically where the patriot systems are set up?
[...]
no, your argument is disingenuous and autistic. flying recon over a random field on the frontlines in eastern ukraine to show a destroyed m777 is slightlyyy different to flying recon over the most heavily fortified city in the world right now
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>cope
And now you’ve just given up entirely
GG
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you got owned bro.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>le random explosion signifying nothing >le ONE THOUSAND BAYRAKTARS and FIFTY HIMARS DESTROYED, with no pictures
literally nothing to read or watch
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
two actually, and those are the only ones caught on video
>>le ONE THOUSAND BAYRAKTARS and FIFTY HIMARS DESTROYED, with no pictures
we've been over this. try to keep up. you morons literally just keep spamming the same tired lines
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>5 out of 2 Patriot batteries are destroyed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I should have said video about her recording a video she is being arrested. That comes out after she posted. Ukr can censor the vid but it doesn't line up with having info blackout.
Dude, the video with the hardest hit have been geolocated on the airport. Even Z dudes acknowledge this and even try to insinuate that Ukr is hiding it a few days ago.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I should have said video about her recording a video she is being arrested. That comes out after she posted. Ukr can censor the vid but it doesn't line up with having info blackout.
no. she posted it to her social media which was then immediately picked up and reposted on vatmoron telegrams. her fellow ukranians reported her and then the SBU arrested her the next day. she also made a public apology
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And made a vid about being arrested. Lol. And also, her vid isn't even enough. Things doesn't quite line up to the terrain of of Kyiv. Even the sparse lighting show it isn't quite like the city center
Hohols are a different retarded breed indeed. Even thou their God America admitted that the battery was hit they still deny it and claim all missiles were shot down.
Very bizarre how a White people can descend into this level or pure and literal retardation and retardness.
do we not have any Patriots stationed domestically in the US? feels like every time I see people talk about the Patriot, they're always stationed in some other country
Oh no, some fat incel decided to make threats on the internet. Don't get arrested like the last guy who threatened a sheriff, pumpkin. Or, maybe you should, so I can laugh at you being dragged off to prison where you deserve to end up.
I can only assume the patriots are working if they have the Russian shills on overtime spamming about how they don't work and how the west should definitely not send more.
i dont care im tired of this football team eternal shitfling and pray for the one day this website discusses tanks or any weapon system larger than a car with mutual respect
isn't it 0.5 on the Russian side?
considering they got a "damage"?
Considering the damage was so minor it got repaired in 1 day, I'd still call it zero.
fair
>malfunctioned interceptor
>some rocket booster going ACK on it's own
own goals still count in matches
>you don't get partial credit
You don't get partial credit.
Also it's still up in the air whether it was an actual kinzhal hit or unlucky collateral from a malfunctioned interceptor.
It's not even clear if it actually was by russians or just some rocket booster going ACK on it's own.
Idk why people were surprised PAC-3 could kill Kinzhals. It's been intercepting Mach 8 Pershing II MARVs since the 90s kek.
If it was out of service for a period I'd count it but it was barely damaged and never rendered inoperable.
Below this post someone will mention Bakhmut, 5 patriots destroyed, one damaged means 50% of all patriots gone because they had two launchers and how Kinzhal isn't a REAL hypersonic
No one is surprised, it's just funny that Vatnigs got humiliated publicly this badly.
only took 3 minutes lel
More like 0.1 or 0.08 if we're measuring that way, since it (at most) partially damaged one launcher out of a system with at least 12 different components
However I round down, so still 7-0
If it can be put back into working order it doesn't count anon
battery remained operational
so no
>immediately repaired
>0.5
Kinzhal
lmao
I remember when the Russian MoD first said that they destroyed the Patriot with a single missile but then someone had to explain to them that the Patriot is a complex with a lot of parts to it and they backtracked and released that headline instead.
This is retarded gossip.
>nooooo muh puccia iz smart and doesn't make mistakes
Cry more zigger
>he actually thinks russia, the primary user of AA batteries in the world, doesnt know how an AA battery works
this is such low effort garbage
You mean the same country that managed to develop an AA battery that did a fucking u turn entirely on video, and then turned around and claimed that system was better than patriot. Despite Patriot being able to intercept hypersonic and no Russian SAM can claim the same.
more uneducated garbage.
Lol. Lmao.
Zegroids just never learn
Patriots can't intercept kryptons.
Remember when they released footage of the "NATO Merc" corpses on snake island and didn't blur the belt buckle that had the Russian/Soviet Naval Infantry logo on it, then re-released the footage with the whole body blurred.
Russia/soviet union uses(d) a distributed SAM system for wide area defense in the form of the S300 for like 50 damn years. Their leaders are aware that a patriot battery is not a single vehicle
You're being too charitable
I'm sure gerasimov and shoigu know, but anyone else if they aren't intimately involved in the operation I doubt.
>then someone had to explain to them that the Patriot is a complex with a lot of parts to it
I have non doubt that the russian military knows that
Whoever ran the media bit might not though, and to be fair, given less than optimal space to spread out a battery's parts and a warhead up to the task you could take out a battery with one missile.
>Military Watch Magazine
>Russian source
>No magazine
>No author
Thundercleese!
463, an X, an O and I can't think of a better way to end the day
How come Russia is still in Ukraine even with billions of fancy weapons deployed against them?
Because they haven't even been properly deployed yet?
Duh.
How come Ukraine is still Ukraine even after a total invasion by the "second best army of the world" Prajeet?
How is the Taliban still in charge of Afghanistan 20 years and $2 trillion later, fedcuck?
OH that deflection is delicious, feed me more!
>2 trillion
Lmao
Where’s
>OH that deflection is delicious, feed me more!
>Where’s
Raytheon and Lockheed Martin's war chest.
Lmao sorry let me finish
Where’s the Soviet Union after they failed there?
Soviet left Afghanistan in 89, and collapsed in 92. So our collapse should be by 2025 if the curse holds. I think it'll be closer to 2030 or so. We have more momentum but its clear we are collapsing.
>but its clear we are collapsing.
God I know you really want us too but we aren’t, we really aren’t, our military spending alone says enough to make your wish a opium pipe dream
The interest payment on our debt exceeds our military's budget. Only way to pay back debt is to hyperinflate the currency or default, both of which will wipe out the economy and the military.
Anon we owe most of that debt to ourselves, you get told this every time. Anyway I’d love to see any nation call in that debt, I’m sure that would do more harm to them considering the US IS the world economy at this point
>Anon we owe most of that debt to ourselves, you get told this every time
This is meaningless. If an American citizen buys a bond and it is not paid back or is paid back in worthless currency, what do you think happens? Capital flight to other currencies or commodities.
Most bonds are held by corporations and large banks. If the value of those bonds becomes zero or near zero overnight, you essentially wipe out trillions in fake assets from the market which will cause a cascading failure of banks as they become critically under capitalized. SVB but with no breaks on the train and people's life savings being reduced to nothing in a few days as banks bail in.
This is why a debt default is not an option concerning budget negotiations in DC.
Then the world falls along with us, that’s why you fucks lock step with us, it’s all fake, has been for decades, now quit pretending like your sone economics major and start crying about trannies and garden gnomes, it’s marginally less embarrassing.
>Then the world falls along with us
Not really. Other countries would still continue on perfectly fine. Eurocucks would probably lose 50% of their wealth overnight though lel. And since I'm invested out of the USD and have been for a long time, a default will only hurt my enemies, namely people like you.
>Not really. Other countries would still continue on perfectly fine.
>Eurocucks would probably lose 50% of their wealth overnight though lel.
>And since I'm invested out of the USD and >have been for a long time, a default will only >hurt my enemies, namely people like you.
Anon you seem to be forgetting china has a lot of that debt, funny considering you fags love to mention that, but not that it might pop that bubble they have going
You're retarded
If you borrow money from yourself, future you will have less money
In a complex economy this can take several forms, such as rising costs, work intensification, reduced consumption, lowered quality of goods and services, etc but the result is the same
>I'm invested out of the USD and have been for a long time
RIP lol
>but its clear we are collapsing
You should leave ruzzia before it's too late.
those "fancy weapons" are 1980's tech NATO hand-me-downs
Patriot...I kneel
dont try it at home kids
Story behind this?
Russian destroying an abandoned/overrun ukie S300 launcher in early in the war.
Naturally being a russian he chose the stupidest possible way to do it.
That figures.
FPS Russia got his channel back?
The philadelphia eagles have a better record of destroying patriots than russia.
What's your name?
PATRIOT
I'M SORRY PATRIOT
What did Reuters mean by this? (1)
What did Reuters mean by this? (2)
What did Reuters mean by this? (3)
What did Reuters mean by this? (4)
A warhead self-destructing, its target already destroyed. The video shows it falling slowly to earth. KYS (keep yourself safe).
>The video shows
nice video you posted
>trust me, bro
Is that a Patriot killing itself in Kiev few days ago?
lmao, how embarassing
>killing itself
You mean hitting a bus
Vatmorons so desperate for a win they're willing to give up the kinzhal kill claim for patriot malfunction kill.
>don't believe your own eyes, believe what war propaganda says
Yes I saw the missile not hit the point of launch. Stop projecting.
Classic patriot
And the fucking russian mod saying that they destroyed the whole battery holy shit.
So this explains how patriot managed to only get damaged, Kinzhal/Kalibr damaging a patriot system makes 0 sense considering they have huge warheads and patriot is completely unarmored, any hit by those systems would outright destroy whichever component was nearby. An interceptor with a tiny warhead returning to sender and scratching the paint with a near miss makes much more sense
>An interceptor with a tiny warhead returning to sender
You have a good system there, how many do you have, more than 1.000 and they return to senders?
lol, USA is fucked
>the system malfunctioned, america is finished!
>ignore the fact that it did its job and intercepted all the hypersonic wunderwaffles and and shitty tomahawk clones
cope
>it did its job and intercepted
>no proof
>malfunction
>proof
livestreamed by a ukro e-girl from Kiev russian arrivals against patriot
>arrivals
ESLs out reEEEEEEEEEEEE
dont bother posting it, the retard shills on here will unironically claim its ''debris from shot down missiles'' falling. ive had them cope at that video several times before
You can't produce a single photo of the damaged patriot.
you cant produce a single photo of the 6 shot down kinzhals
m8 LOOK how slow it's falling
so we have Reuters showing Patriot killing itself and a livestream showing arrivals on AD and these "people" repeat war propaganda without any proof? glowing
My man its been almost a week from that strike. The only images we have of destruction on the ground is a hole in a playground and some burning busses. Surely if the strike WASNT successfully intercepted you'd have some kind of proof of it doing damage, right? Every other strike on Kiev over the last year gives us dozens of pictures of destroyed buildings, reports of dead civilians, hours of power outages. Why is there NOTHING like that for this strike? Why is the only evidence of damage you have a few explosions in the darkness?
They had UAVs up in the area as well. If they'd actually destroyed it they would've posted the pictures online instantly.
no, they were shot down.
>The only images we have of destruction on the ground is a hole in a playground and some burning busses. Surely if the strike WASNT successfully intercepted you'd have some kind of proof of it doing damage, right?
you do realize ukraine and especially kyiv have an absolutely iron grip on what media gets out to the western media sphere, right? you think a civilian is going to be able to actually photograph and leak anything of military importance?
the influencer who filmed this video
was arrested and throw in jail by the sbu for merely showing actual missile impacts hitting the city
You are posting in a thread where journalists uploaded multiple photos of a patriot launcher own goaling.
KYS
i suggest you actually watch the video of that. again, youre completely biting into a propaganda narrative designed to distract you from the fact that missiles actually hit the city
Then where is the damage. Where is the power outage, where is any evidence of a single thing actually hitting a target. You failed to even mission kill a patriot lmao.
youre just arguing in circles now.
Asking for proof is not circular, ESL.
its been explained to you why you will never see ''proof'', because the ukranian military are the only ones who hold those photos, and they wont release them whether they exist or dont exist. can your pea brain understand that?
the fact that the official narrative has changed 3-4 times in a week and you morons continue to accept it is funny af
Non-starter cope.
There are photos of the Patriot itself already in this thread, and there are photos of burning cars and an impact crater already, not to mention Russia's own drones overhead.
>There are photos of the Patriot itself already in this thread
there is actually a video, go and watch it to understand why it wasnt a patriot destroying itself. that video was also taken by a western news outlet...who obviously have to request approval from kyiv to post it.
>and there are photos of burning cars and an impact crater already
which were released by the ukranian government. y
>not to mention Russia's own drones overhead.
orlans cannot get within range of kyiv to take BDA. this has been the case for months. or does your amazing super duper patriot system not know how to shoot them down?
did you know russia has imaging satellites?
You've invented a reality for yourself where you can believe anything without proof, and any counter-evidence can be safely ignored. Hypersonic missiles can blow up buildings (that have people in them) in a city of almost 3 million, and absolutely no photographic evidence or testimony will come out.
You are genuinely Trusting The Plan -Z, and will believe anything Russian telegram tells you.
>you can believe anything without proof
>7 KINZHAL INTERCEPTED!!!1!
>no proof
>make a thread
Where did the khinzals go? Where did the fragments come from?
post proof, what is this thread about, a coercial for patriot? is this the only pic we are supposed to believe? the only photos and videos we have show the patriot malfuntioning and russian arrivals
>and absolutely no photographic evidence or testimony will come out
read the thread, the owners of the webcam and influencer who posted the missiles were quite literally arrested. you see what kyiv wants you see, the irony of you accusing me of ''inventing reality'' is off the charts
may i see it?
?t=9
that's why you didn't post it earlier, the video is even worse, it's not 1 but 2 patriot missiles falling
what do you expect flaming wreckage to look like?
if flaming wreckage is how it's supposed to work why do they put them in the middle of the city?
it's not supposed to work like that
round and round
>thread celebrating patriot intercepting 7 Kinzhals
>only video posted is 2 patriots intercepting Kiev
if the kinzhals hit their targets, where is the rest of your offense? you are a nation capable of combined arms strategies, aren't you?
>your
>you are
>arent you?
Retard thinks anyone that isnt 110% pro-NATO pro-Ukraine pro-globohomo must be a russian
believe it or not, there's people inside the US that cant get psyopped into supporting war #18745721 like a good little goy
what war?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
you're telling me you're completely ambivalent about the russian invasion of ukraine?
>must be a russian
Or any other kind of third world trash.
>believe it or not, there's people inside the US
And all of them aren't white.
Holy shit you lead-poisoned monkey thirdies were a mistake. You started off confident Kinzhals hit calling random fucks on the internet glowies, then posted still-photos because you didn't even watch the video it was from and you immediately thought it was missiles. Someone else posts the video and now you're embarrassing yourself and moving goalposts about
>"W-well it malfunctioned! It's trash!"
It killed 6 Kinzhals for one or two malfunctioning interceptors and your cope is that gravity made them hit the ground under it?
What does this have to do with destroyed buildings? A city of 2,800,000 can't post a photo anonymously of their workplace or coffee shop in rubble?
ukrainians have this special beam that stops internet access for very specific sets of people. it's just like that special beam that gives freethinkers lethal cases of covid, and so on.
>A city of 2,800,000 can't post a photo anonymously of their workplace or coffee shop in rubble?
nope. only 8 people even posted footage of the missile strikes, and they were all arrested. please cope some more
magical thinking cope
no, literal fact as per the sbu
cope more
the fact the kinzhal strike wasn't followed up by anything is proof it achieved nothing
sucks to suck doesn't it
it was, they launched another attack literally the next day. one where ukraine claimed they had shot down 29 of 30 missiles
you dont even know the basic facts.
seems like a pretty poor strategy to me
may i see the damage?
russia sucks at war btw
>EIGHT PEOPLE were able to record missiles as they were in the air
do you even realize how many more people would be able to see a burning commieblock
that wouldnt be allowed to post the photos. why is this such a hard concept for you to understand?
kyiv is literally on information blackout. only approved things get out, and if they dont, they are arrested
you dont think its coincidence that literally no news source has posted the video of the influencer filming the missiles actually striking the city? maybe because that goes against the actual narrative..
>literally no news source has posted the video
i mean this one
retard, you know, the one that actually definitely proves there were missile impacts?
>Russia claims
The info blackout is for sensitive mil assets. Weapons firing with their contrails can have its location geolocated easily.
There are 2.8M people in the city. It's hard to control it and there are other means to get the pic anonymously.
And also, besides boots on the ground, the Russians is lacking sat photos. If they ever destroyed it then they should provide sat photos. So, where is it?
This would imply then that the Russians have no effective BDA to begin with. Even if we don't trust Ukrainian reports they're literally all anyone has, including the Russians themselves.
>Russians is lacking sat photos. If they ever destroyed it then they should provide sat photos. So, where is it?
the russians dont publish satellite photos and havent done so the entire war.
I'm gonna say where are the private Rus company satellites then I remember they don't have one.
>you dont think its coincidence that literally no news source has posted the video of the influencer filming the missiles actually striking the city? maybe because it's complete bullshit
ftfy
see
cope some more.
Wait, how can we be sure they were arrested? Are there official Ukranian reports or social media posts from the people themselves?
a statement from the sbu themselves. they also posted their photos online to shame them
Wow, really? The gays posting photos of military equipment and its placement in a city during a war were arrested? That's awful! Surely it's to oppress people and for the sake of disinformation, and not for opsec reasons!
Oy vey!
then stop screching about no ''proofs''
Do Russian reconnaissance satellites have an image resolution below "bomb crater"?
>or does your amazing super duper patriot system not know how to shoot them down?
PAC-3s aren't intended to hunt drone threats. That's why there's other AA in the city. Do you really think Patriot is the only air defense in Kiev?
no. thats why im saying there were no drones over kyiv that night genius. the other guy was claiming that there would have been ''proofs'' in the form of BDA from drones
use basic reading comprehension.
>absence of evidence = evidence of presence
fucking stupid monkey retard
Nevermind that Oryx exists.
Meanwhile in Russia:
https://thehill.com/policy/international/3484858-heres-who-russia-has-punished-for-speaking-out-against-the-war-in-ukraine/
>you do realize ukraine and especially kyiv have an absolutely iron grip on what media gets out to the western media sphere, right?
You're literally linking us livestream footage of the missile interceptors firing/explosions on the ground. Reuters has pictures of an interceptor malfunctioning. Truly an IRON GRIP bud.
>you think a civilian is going to be able to actually photograph and leak anything of military importance?
I'm not asking for a photo of the patriot launchers. I'm asking for any evidence of damage to ANYTHING from the strike. Kiev is a city of millions of people, if there was wreckage and destroyed buildings from the strike we'd see pictures of it.
>Russia can't show us BDA pictures
>but they totally can kill fifty HIMARS and five Patriots, believe me!
>ukraine cant post BDA photos
>but they totally shot down a bajillion missiles and 7 hypersonics, believe me!
>the video showing the missiles hitting the city? ignore that!
Not the anon but I already posted a sat photo done by some private players.
Ukraine is defending and Russia is attacking
To show proof of success of the former, Ukraine simply has to show its buildings are standing and not on fire
To show proof of success of the latter, Russia has to show Patriot launchers destroyed
In the past, Russia has shown videos and pictures of destroyed Ukrainian artillery and missiles, such as Pions, S-300s, M777s, Stormer, etc
Why is it that in the special circumstances of HIMARS and Patriot, Russia is unable to do so?
now this is some supreme autism
yeah, your blurry shitty pic of a field didnt show anything
If a Patriot is destroyed, the grass would have different color and the surrounding lands. Your video proof shows a big explosions. So, may I ask, where is the burnt ground? Don't try to say it grows because grass doesn't grow that very quickly.
why are you assuming that specific location was targeted?
also, how do you know that location is specifically where the patriot systems are set up?
no, your argument is disingenuous and autistic. flying recon over a random field on the frontlines in eastern ukraine to show a destroyed m777 is slightlyyy different to flying recon over the most heavily fortified city in the world right now
Because that's where the unit is.
It isn't really a secret either.
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/ukraines_military_showed_the_patriot_pac_3_which_is_on_combat_duty_and_ready_to_shoot_down_targets_at_the_range_of_150_km-6524.html
>The unit that received the Patriot PAC 3 did not make secrets either, in the video from the Air Force Command, the division commander wears the chevron of the 138th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade.
Riiiight. So the recon-strike complex that can accurately pinpoint a Patriot to provide targeting telemetry, can't accurately pinpoint the exact same blast site to show pictures of wreckage.
This is why we know Patriot wasn't hit, sweaty.
no, because russia doesnt release satellite pics, sweaty.
>Despite the fact that the video was shot with maximum observance of secrecy regarding the location of surface-to-air missile system, some interesting moments were still captured.
your article says the exact opposite of what you say it does
>no, because russia doesnt release satellite pics, sweaty
Lmao
>w-w-we just don't want to release those pics okay!
No answer? As I thought.
>asking Russia to provide pics of Patriot from KIEV
>no bother asking Ukraine to provide pics of "intercepted" Kinzhal
Russia had several state of the art surveillance drones over the site, surely if they were successful they wouldn't wait to upload pics.
no they didnt, russians havent managed to have surveillance drones above kyiv for a long long time you shill
I don't if they believe what they write or they are just outright lying
You have three options
A. There were never any khinzals, and Russia is lying about using them
B. There were khinzals, but they're so fucking awful that they missed the capital city entirely, and landed in the woods somewhere where no one can photograph their damage
C. There were khinzals, and the reason no one has seen any damage is that something happened to them mid flight
you can't believe what you write, you are just outright lying
You have to choose one, anon, there's no other possibilities.
>there's no other possibilities
D. There were khinzals, and the reason no one has seen any damage is because Kiev put people in jail if they post it
>My evidence goes to a different school... in Canada
Shaheed drones. You can see the gepard rounds exploding in the air before they hit.
lmao.
a 15kg explosion doesnt look like that. nice try buddy
That’s exactly what they like look like. It also explains why the damage was repaired so quickly.
its not shaheds. the explosion is far too large, and in the video you can hear the whoosh of the missile, not the braaaap of a shahed. please stop coping and shilling
Why is the city in that video in blackout? Kyiv doesn't do blackouts anymore.
And where are the tall buildings?
>And where are the tall buildings?
The SBU arrested them.
>egirl
Isn't it the same egirl that has her boyfriend going full vatnik?
her boyfriend is a drugdealer
>The lights are on in Kyiv in every photo and video taken on May 16th except this one.
Makes you think
>livestreamed by a ukro e-girl from Kiev russian arrivals against patriot
Good morning sir
Why are the lights all out?
You think either slowly falling debris is the impact of a hypersonic ballistic missile, or you think the video of a city in total blackout despite all the video and images from the night of the strike having the city lit brightly is the same is genuinely from the same strike.
Either way you're laughably retarded.
And looks like there place where the unit is in shows no signs of damage.
it is, thats literally the video the influencer was arrested for. you people post such incredible mental gymnastics, there is also no ''slowly falling debris'' in that video
KinzhalSlayer
ScudBuster
ZirconStopper
>Explodes
Nice interception.
I suppose it is like a gay intercepting a dick with his anus.
>wake up
>think about gay sex
Kneel before your Queen
>ZirconStopper
Reminder that the Zircon doesn't exist
reminder that there is still literally zero proof that a single khinzal got shot down
reminder that you are not immune to propaganda
False
>picture of a missile frame with a clean hole going through it
it's totally not retarded to think that a mach 4 patriot colliding with a khinzal wouldnt completely destroy both missiles
>I only think in cartoons
Yes you are completely retarded.
name two objects (any two objects at all, it doesnt matter what) that could collide at mach 4 and not completely destroy each other
A patriot and a kinzhal :^)
Here's what I mean about cartoon logic.
Velocity isn't what does damage, imparting energy between two bodies is what does damage. Getting shot, if it's a clean through and through doesn't do much damage other than to what's directly in the path of the bullet. Getting shot with hollow point does far more damage because it expands and imparts most if not all of the energy into the target.
>imparting energy between two bodies is what does damage
and two missiles at mach 4 wouldnt impart energy on each other?
Yes but not their full energy as in my example. As is expected of you ziggers you're too stupid to understand basic physics.
>Yes but not their full energy
why not?
For context, I have a degree in engineering, so be very technical in your reply if you can
Firstly to impart their full energy they would need to collide head on. Any angular collision and you get substantially less energy transfer. Then you factor in the patriot warhead exploding to produce the kill which would cause a a further cushion between the two bodies.
>"The collision would not be inelastic because...IT JUST WOULDNT, OKAY?"
Dunning-Kruger: The Post
>no argument
I accept your concession.
here's the face you're trying to save:
>*wounded zigger noises*
>Then you factor in the patriot warhead exploding
I'm fairly certain PAC-3 interceptors that would be used to intercept ballistic missile threats are hit-to-kill kinetic vehicles, aren't they?
Yup. PAC-3 would only have HtK and I'm betting that Kinzhal warhead is a little bit tougher since it is made to go Mach 5+ afterall. I'm not surprised of the results since materials can act weird on extreme conditions.
moron are you comparing high-velocity metallic impacts to the effects of a bullet on soft tissue? Are you 7 years old?
Do you not understand that the metallic bodies of these two objects traveling significantly faster than the speed of sound (each, not even accounting for rate of closure), colliding with each other is guaranteed to violently fragment most of either body? Are you sure you understand physics and the physical properties of metals impacting similarly or denser things at very, very high speeds as much as you want to sound like you do?
Here's the helmet of one of the astronauts onboard Space Shuttle Columbia when it was destroyed during reentry. Columbia disintegrated while travelling Mach 13, its outer skin heated to 1600 degrees Celsius, at an altitude of 60km (which is closer to the Karman line than it is to sea-level).
That helmet survived the fiery breakup of a spaceship, then fell forty miles before impacting in a field in Texas, and STILL it survived in a recognizable shape.
But sure, its impossible for a PAC-3 to strike a Kinzhal in a way that doesn't cause both missiles to instantly disappear in a giant cloud of confetti.
Penetrator vs light composite
Reminder shortly after this they confirmed it.
That grass is obviously fake. If they couldn't even properly fake grass, what else are they hiding.
Heisenberg?
>SAY MY FUCKING NAME
clown?
We're not talking about the Khinzal anon.
you will notice that the zigger shill posted screenshots of a video of falling wreckage, trying to pass it off as an active missile, rather than posting the video itself. this is because the wreckage is falling so slowly in the video that it's clearly not an active missile.
those are not screenshots, they are photos from reuters. if you a video just post it, my glowing friend
>Pussya can't even destroy a single Patriot or Himars launcher.
>NATO has thousands of these launchers that can be donated to Ukraine
You're not a Christian and your fake anti-semitism is a tool to hide your anti-western and anti-white attitude.
? this bot is broken
> question mark in the beginning
Exposed as a seething latam brownoid.
The Republicans proposed the lend lease for Ukraine. You need to get your brain off 4chan
Why would I say the name of something so expensive and unproven?
PATRIOT
I'M SORRY PATRIOT
Russia bringing T-55s out of storage is in fact a really good sign for Russia, as much as NAFO trannies try to argue against it.
And you know what? I don't blame you them that much. See, the West and especially America has had their whole perception of war shaped by the last hundred years of foreign interventionist that they've lost sight of any other way of doing things. In WW2 the US had to ship everything across the world, and they shipped Shermans, from the North Africa campaign to Berlin. And they had to, since upgrading would cripple their supply chain. Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins. And that mindset of "you fight war with what you sent" persists today, which is why the US fights insurgents armed with rusty AKs with Abrams.
But they fail to realize that Russia has no global logistic hurdle. A few hour train ride is it. And Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrine to adapt to best fighting their enemy. In the opening days they used the good stuff to permit rapid gains, set the stage. A few months later they swap that out with less modern but still highly effective armor to support the grinding offensive. After all, why put the most modern tanks on the battlefield if arty is doing most of the work? And now, with the Ukrainian military on the verge of collapse, those tanks are being swapped out for T-55s, because what's about to commence is nothing more that a mopping up operation. And throughout it all, the best tanks is Russia won't be taking any losses at all. And that terrifies NATO.
The Sherman had a higher survival rating than the fucking T-34 trash heap the Soviet Union called a tank.
That's copy/pasta anon
I actually find funny that quote would apply so well to Putin.
Also friendly reminder NATO sisters are real girls with wombs and ovaries, they can create new life, unlike pathetic femboy vatnigs who can only corrupt things.
>that Russia has no global logistic hurdle
Kek good b8 anon
Zigger Zapper, I kneel.
>your """"hypersonic"""" missiles get humiliated so badly you feel compelled to arrest weapons developers
That's how you know they were definitely intercepted.
those scientists were all arrested separately over the past year. only after the amazing incredible patriot shot down 7 kinzhals did western outlets actually publish the story , and misleadingly made it seem like it happened the day after the strike
do you see how your mind is being shaped?
I see the same thing with most of what the vatniks post. Waiting around to see what happens usually goes in Ukraine's favor (so far).
ITT:
>Every Kinzhal hit their targets but the SBU arrested the evidence
seems like a spy can shoot rpgs at them
Heisenbrrrrrrt
I just enjoy the fact that we’re now at the
>w-well you can’t prove we even sent those missles!!
Kek
A fucking week on and they can't let it go. That's how you know this shit really was a body-blow to their pride and egos.
Give it a month and those missles will never have existed, “ what? We never made them they were wunderwaffen just a joke!” You’re just silly for thinking they exist hohol! Patriot cannot destroy hypersonic missles, never happened China stronk!!!
the article doesnt say they are at the airfield, you are talking utter nonsense
no argument
Why bother arguing with you? You aren’t worth more than laughter as you argue in circles well past the topic to avoid it
How am i arguing in circles? you are the one making demonstrably false claims and changing your arguments constantly
>it was shasneeds!
>no it was falling debris!
>no wait no missiles hit at all! this blurry satellite pic proves it!
Yeah and you're the one making claims on the basis of jack shit lmao
except an actual video and an official statement from the SBU
cope more, you got owned.
The girl got a video out but there's no pictures because info blackout.
Lel.
yes, thats why she was arrested.
go read them and watch them. then come back and say sorry
cope.
see
>cope
And now you’ve just given up entirely
GG
you got owned bro.
>le random explosion signifying nothing
>le ONE THOUSAND BAYRAKTARS and FIFTY HIMARS DESTROYED, with no pictures
literally nothing to read or watch
two actually, and those are the only ones caught on video
>>le ONE THOUSAND BAYRAKTARS and FIFTY HIMARS DESTROYED, with no pictures
we've been over this. try to keep up. you morons literally just keep spamming the same tired lines
>5 out of 2 Patriot batteries are destroyed
I should have said video about her recording a video she is being arrested. That comes out after she posted. Ukr can censor the vid but it doesn't line up with having info blackout.
Dude, the video with the hardest hit have been geolocated on the airport. Even Z dudes acknowledge this and even try to insinuate that Ukr is hiding it a few days ago.
>I should have said video about her recording a video she is being arrested. That comes out after she posted. Ukr can censor the vid but it doesn't line up with having info blackout.
no. she posted it to her social media which was then immediately picked up and reposted on vatmoron telegrams. her fellow ukranians reported her and then the SBU arrested her the next day. she also made a public apology
And made a vid about being arrested. Lol. And also, her vid isn't even enough. Things doesn't quite line up to the terrain of of Kyiv. Even the sparse lighting show it isn't quite like the city center
>a video of nothing
>an official statement of nothing
Wow it showed an explosion, patriot confirmed destroyed!
2 explosions actually, all in the area of the lunches but one a little further back (likely the radar)
Lmao fucking Christ now the radar too? You cunts and your ego are amazing
the radar is the heart of the system retard, of course it will be the primary target
You’re such a fucking joke lmao
An explosion in your video will show a burnt ground retard. And burnt ground cam be clearly seen against the backdrop of green grass.
So retard, where's the burnt ground or a big crater?
The airport field is the one where most of the missile is pointed at. Solomyansky is where the fires started at. It's a good guess to go there.
And also, there are pictures of before and after of the airport. Again, adding more credibility to the idea.
>SAY MY FUCKING NAME
Complete Loser
Hohols are a different retarded breed indeed. Even thou their God America admitted that the battery was hit they still deny it and claim all missiles were shot down.
Very bizarre how a White people can descend into this level or pure and literal retardation and retardness.
Oh WAH WAH WAH this is why your a joke the minute you come into contact with people who disagree you just bitch and deflect, Christ
>says the guy winning the olympics at mental gymnastics and posting nothing but ad hominems
They said it's operational now and it doesn't need extensive repairs. Fucking read the whole article you retard.
Destroyed.
>Destroyed your anus
FTFY
kinzhal status?
ASS BLASTED
>in the ass
ASS TO ASS
>eyebrows?
raised
>ass?
in the ass
>gloves?
on and off
>hand
DEGLOVED
they hide their hands under the table. they're in a superposition of being both on and off
The eyebrow is shaved so it’s status can remain state secret
is everything known though, and is everything else too?
Everything is known by the glorious high monkie Putin, everything else...that is for the finding out by the disgusting westerners!
>we will get the ukrainian banan... only 2 more decades
USA USA USA
seeing the way russians lie in this thread makes me wanna drop a nuke on the filthy cocroaches
Say my name, say my name
If no one is around you
Say baby i love you
bros...
I know bro, it’s sad to see missles wasted on filth, but be content they died doing what they were made for, embarrassing Russia
bakhmut
Yea I know they said for the 100000000th time they took it, it’s embarrassing even if they did
NAFOsisters, we can't let them post the cat ;_;
Organic anon, you totally aren’t horribly angry, only took 9months and the humiliation of both Wagner and the Russian army to take it
Just stop spamming my board and go back to plebbit. If the mods weren't fags, this entire war would have been contained to a single general.
No I’ll stay right here, now what?
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I'M SORRY LA LI LU LE LO
do we not have any Patriots stationed domestically in the US? feels like every time I see people talk about the Patriot, they're always stationed in some other country
they're around as needed but there aren't a lot of tactical ballistic missile threats to the continental us tbh
What fucking missiles are being fired at US right now?
we didn't have missiles being fired at us during the Cold War, but we still had interceptors on standby, didn't we?
Still haven't declared cold war on China, now have you?
GBIs anon. Missiles have wildly different profiles so there intercptors do as well
People only talk about Patriot in refards to interceptions generally. and there aren't many strikes against the US mainland
Oh no, some fat incel decided to make threats on the internet. Don't get arrested like the last guy who threatened a sheriff, pumpkin. Or, maybe you should, so I can laugh at you being dragged off to prison where you deserve to end up.
I can only assume the patriots are working if they have the Russian shills on overtime spamming about how they don't work and how the west should definitely not send more.
Patriot'ed
>another skewed number for americans to gloat about for years and years on end
this community isn't getting better any time soon
Reality has an anti-Russian bias
i dont care im tired of this football team eternal shitfling and pray for the one day this website discusses tanks or any weapon system larger than a car with mutual respect