6000 us dollars

6000 us dollars

6000 us dollars

6000 us dollars

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slavshitters need to kill themselves

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      slavaboos deserve everything that's coming to them

      The gun is FEG / Hungarian made. Hungarians aren't Slavs.

      Lol get fucked. I would pay 1500$ for a dragunov. Not a penny more

      It's expensive because they imported 80 guns and plan to bring in a few hundred more. It's a supply and demand issue, so of course the prices are going to be jacked because someone will pay for it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >made
        It's literally assembled from Russian parts in FEG facilities.
        No one other than Russians and the Chinese ever manufactured SVDs.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is jerma at shot show?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      technically Jerma lives in Las Vegas so he could very easily drop by

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jerma and TFB collab when?? I know you're here James with your short shorts

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could you imagine the seething from probably ~50% of his audience? What a spectacle it would be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      free food glam handing and cheap male prostitutes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      haha

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chat come one I'm not gonna do it
      >I'm NOT gonna sneak live ammo into shotshow chat come one!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ballfondler just said: "Is this the stream where he shoves remshit up his ass?"

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >6000 dollars for a 2 MOA rifle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2 MOA rifle
      its 4 moa

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/lBZeWxa.png

        >6000 dollars for a 2 MOA rifle

        >2MOA
        More like 1 to 1,5 MOA with Barnaul and sub MOA with handloads and SB 174gr match ammo. With a SAG freefloat chassis system it becomes sub moa with almost all ammo.

        https://i.imgur.com/D5GPlKV.jpg

        6k is a low price for an SVD, the greatest rifle ever made. This is actually competitive with the current low end of the SVD used market, tigrs and NDM86 (5-12k). Set it up right and it will shit over any LMT MARS, Stag-10, Ruger SFAR, DPMS LR308, POF DI revolution, SR-25, 417, XCRM, or any other assorted garbage.

        >6k is a low price for an SVD
        For the artificially inflated US market maybe. But an SVD or a Tigr aren't worth that much. My soviet SVD was closer to 2k and my Tigr was 1.2k. It's not the POS rifle that some boomers and noguns who get their info from videogames think, but it's still a 60 years old rifle that it's showing his age, especially against modern mid tier .308 AR rifles.

        [...]

        The SVD is literally the first DMR and was created to fill that exact role. It was never meant to be a sniper rifle in the wester sniper doctrine sense.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/D5GPlKV.jpg

          6k is a low price for an SVD, the greatest rifle ever made. This is actually competitive with the current low end of the SVD used market, tigrs and NDM86 (5-12k). Set it up right and it will shit over any LMT MARS, Stag-10, Ruger SFAR, DPMS LR308, POF DI revolution, SR-25, 417, XCRM, or any other assorted garbage.

          Deleted the angle braket by mistake

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >More like 1 to 1,5 MOA with Barnaul and sub MOA with handloads and SB 174gr match ammo. With a SAG freefloat chassis system it becomes sub moa with almost all ammo.
          cope, post your SVD slavaboo gay
          >The SVD is literally the first DMR and was created to fill that exact role.
          It was pretty subpar as a DMR, though. It was good as a mosin replacement for the soviets but it was really more of a scoped battle rifle than a proper marksman rifle. Fun fact: for half a decade after its adoption, SVD had no match ammo, at all and had to use standard general purpose 7.62x54r ones. This meant that the "world's first DMR" grouped at over 2 MOA, just about as accurate as above average battle rifle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >post your SVD slavaboo gay
            I just did? I have more pics if you want.
            >it was a good replacement for the mosin
            Yeah, for PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory.
            >it was more of a scoped battle rifle
            No. It was never used that way. But I think you're just trolling at this point.
            >for half a decade it had no ammo
            Not true. Since it's inception the SVD shot the 7n1 ammunition which was adequate to achieve the desired precision. Afterwards the 7n14 was developed tailored to the SVD which further squeezed out more accuracy, but even before this load it was sufficient for its intended DMR role

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I just did?
              not your pics
              >PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory.
              lmao
              >It was never used that way
              It was used in place of a piece of shit mosin, i was talking about functionality.
              >Since it's inception the SVD shot the 7n1 ammunition
              That's a lie and you're full of shit. You should be beaten to death like the vatmoron scum you are for intentionally spreading lies.
              >which was adequate
              slimy gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol you have no proof of any of your claims and he literally posted his rifle. Blown the fuck out bruv

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope, seethe and dilate vatmoron. You will never be a real human.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i've seen a couple videos, around the time of Mariupol, of Russians complaining about their shit SVDs compared to AZOV having top tier HATO warcrime modern sniper rifles

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukrainian snipers are the real deal, they've made an effort to train and equip a pretty large number of them and it seems to have paid off. I've read about this even prior to the war.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just because SVD wasn't used as a battle rifle doesn't mean that it's wrong to compare them like that. If you do, you'll quickly see that if you'd just pick better shooting rifles from your normal production line they'll shoot as well as the SVD does. When you factor in the thin and light barrel and the famous soviet "quality" you'll see that what sime idiots pretend is a "sniper rifle" is really little more than soviets playing copycat with western armies, as is per usual.

              The only neat thing about SVDs compared to the contemporary battle rifles is that they're fairly light weight, about 2 pounds less than standard variants of other battle rifles. This is somewhat negated by the awful contraption that is the scope that comes with the gun, which weighs about as much and makes up the difference in addition to all the other issues it has. And if you ditch the scope you're stuck with the absolute garbage open sights that make any talking points about accuracy moot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2 pounds is an overexaggeration, it's slightly above 1 pound of difference.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory
              Oh bull fucking shit. The only mosin that maybe shoot 1 MOA are Finnish ones. I don’t think you realize how rare a 1 MOA rifle in that era is.
              >SVD shot the 7n1 ammunition which was adequate to achieve the desired precision.
              That’s correct. But the “desired precision” isn’t precise for anyone. Only soviets. It’s not a precise rifle or ammo combo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s correct.
                That's not even correct, that pidor is outright lying. 7N1 was adopted in 1967 and God knows when became common among the troops. By that point many thousands of SVDs had been already built and delivered to the army.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My bad. I didn’t check dates. I just know by using literally ever other piece of equipment as examples that Soviet “precision” is maybe up to “barely acceptable” by western standards

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >around 2,5 MOA for selection at first
                I remembered wrong. My bad.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2,5 MOA for selection at first
                And you are still fucking wrong. In what you posted it’s 8-9cm at 100 meters. Adjusting for freedom units that’s 2.89-3.25 inches at 100 yards. So they are 3 MOA rifles. That’s a far cry from sub MOA like you claimed. That’s not misremembering. You were lying or making shit up because you didn’t know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When did I ever claim mosin nagants were selected for sub moa accuracy? I said around 1 MOA as I had remembered wrong. Are you illiterate?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The Mosin Nagant is around 1 MOA
                what the fuck am I reading lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Try to read the thread first.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For a liar that got caught red handed you're sure weaseling a lot. You slimy fucking piece of shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, you just got caught talking out of your fucking ass. Show me in this thread a singke post where I ever claimed that sniper mosin nagants were EVER sub MOA. Come on.
                I had thought the selection for Mosin PUs was for 1 MOA accuracy and I was wrong. I admitted it, now you're the one weaseling around claiming I said things I never did.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol you're a rusmoron aren't you? I bet you are. Few people have the gall to keep throwing accusations after being caught lying so obviously and so blatantly when exposed as a know nothing gay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rusmoron
                Vatniks can't even own these rifles in their country. If you think that owning a russian gun makes me a rusmoron then you're just a fucking war tourist noguns.

                lol the blatant liar is now claiming that poor wording makes others the same as him

                what a subhuman piece of shit. why are SVDfags and slavaboo always like that?

                >liar
                What did I lie about? About the accuracy of mosins where I even posted the proof of me being wrong myself?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't own any guns, posting stolen pics as you shill and lie on the internet only makes me more sure you're some vatmoron gay.
                >What did I lie about?
                Yes, about just about every claim from your shit stained mouth. Backtracking after you got called out doesn't change that.

                You are trash and the guns you obsess over are trash.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After all the shitflinging you did I hope you don't turn out to be a noguns. But I wouldn't be surprised.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/3Mj7klU.jpg

                [...]
                And this is for rustling your jimmies. War tourists can fuck off PrepHole whatever side they're on.

                Lmao, fucking based

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >After all the shitflinging you did I hope you don't turn out to be a noguns
                It's always like that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/3Mj7klU.jpg

                [...]
                And this is for rustling your jimmies. War tourists can fuck off PrepHole whatever side they're on.

                >tfw no svd
                >mfw yugo cope SVD
                Are you the euro with 3 of them that pops up in /brg/ sometimes
                Also remember you can report retards for trolling

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yugo m76
                That's a really neat rifle. Especially the optic with the Hispanicy air logo for the tritium. I've been on the lookout for one for years but the price was never right.
                >euro with 3 of them
                Must've been someone else, I'm an euro and I have posted them sometimes on /brg/ but I only have 2, a soviet svd and a civilian Tigr. In the future I want an NDM also but I can only find .308 versions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I've been on the lookout for one for years but the price was never right.
                I built it from a kit because the prices for old import ones are absolutely fucking autistic. I'd love an SVD at some point but 6K is just too much for me.
                >at least it's not 9k for a fucking norinco

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I love SVD to death, but I would never drop 6k on that import with weird furniture, no track record and weird front sight. Also the whole MAC bullshit.
                I can understand prices for a genuine soviet SVD going up over the years as they don't make any more. But a Tigr or a modern production RA svd would be worth around 1200-1500 euro if it wasn't for dumb import laws.
                >build from a kit
                Building rifle kits sounds fun.

                >The anon you replied to is not me
                Oh so it was someone else posting relatively early in the thread who is also delusional about the SVDs performance. Ok then.

                Where do you think you are?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based, but you’re still a lying ass. Why did you ignore this post entirely?

                https://i.imgur.com/oGuR2s8.jpg

                >It's old af sure but revolutionary at the time.
                >vatmorons think a semi auto rifle with a 4x scope is revolutionary in 1963
                >laughs in M1C and M1D Garand
                M1 carbines had rudimentary night vision at the end of WWII and in Korea. It was heavy and only worked for about 100 yards but it existed. That’s revolutionary. The first mass issued semi auto rifle is revolutionary. A semi auto rifle with a low power fixed scope is not.

                Pic related. A Portuguese AR-10 with a 3.6x scope. From 1960 you absolute idiot.

                Is it because you realized the SVD wasn’t revolutionary?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because I never claimed that it was revolutionary? The anon you replied to is not me. The SVD was the first rifle designed from the ground up to be used as a aquad DMR. But the rifle itself is not revolutionary. The PSO optic instead could be considered that under certain aspects like the IR spotting capabilities etc.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The anon you replied to is not me
                Oh so it was someone else posting relatively early in the thread who is also delusional about the SVDs performance. Ok then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >noguns stir shit up
                >gets btfo with timestamp
                >noguns runs away
                You love to see it. Fucking mirin'

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/3Mj7klU.jpg

                [...]
                And this is for rustling your jimmies. War tourists can fuck off PrepHole whatever side they're on.

                Based.

                [...]

                [...]

                >I just did?
                not your pics
                >PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory.
                lmao
                >It was never used that way
                It was used in place of a piece of shit mosin, i was talking about functionality.
                >Since it's inception the SVD shot the 7n1 ammunition
                That's a lie and you're full of shit. You should be beaten to death like the vatmoron scum you are for intentionally spreading lies.
                >which was adequate
                slimy gay

                >More like 1 to 1,5 MOA with Barnaul and sub MOA with handloads and SB 174gr match ammo. With a SAG freefloat chassis system it becomes sub moa with almost all ammo.
                cope, post your SVD slavaboo gay
                >The SVD is literally the first DMR and was created to fill that exact role.
                It was pretty subpar as a DMR, though. It was good as a mosin replacement for the soviets but it was really more of a scoped battle rifle than a proper marksman rifle. Fun fact: for half a decade after its adoption, SVD had no match ammo, at all and had to use standard general purpose 7.62x54r ones. This meant that the "world's first DMR" grouped at over 2 MOA, just about as accurate as above average battle rifle.

                Get fucked idiot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/3Mj7klU.jpg

                [...]
                And this is for rustling your jimmies. War tourists can fuck off PrepHole whatever side they're on.

                https://i.imgur.com/gjePTwK.jpg

                Yeah, I love SVD to death, but I would never drop 6k on that import with weird furniture, no track record and weird front sight. Also the whole MAC bullshit.
                I can understand prices for a genuine soviet SVD going up over the years as they don't make any more. But a Tigr or a modern production RA svd would be worth around 1200-1500 euro if it wasn't for dumb import laws.
                >build from a kit
                Building rifle kits sounds fun.
                [...]
                Where do you think you are?

                https://i.imgur.com/FadaeR8.jpg

                I don't generally timestamp every single pic of a group just to prove shit to strangers on the internet and it wouldn't have been sufficient proof to you anyway without video evidence (neither will be this).
                So believe what you want, this is your last (You).
                (Groups will open up to 5+ MOA with the wrong ammo, I will give you that.)

                Based. It's been at least since 2014 with Flandre since I saw someone with dragunovs on this board.
                Based.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you ever going to post any guns? The other anon did. Step up to the challenge you initiated.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No he'll just screech vatnik and hope that works because he's a noguns thirdie

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Right here you fucking liar.

                https://i.imgur.com/656wjDA.jpg

                >post your SVD slavaboo gay
                I just did? I have more pics if you want.
                >it was a good replacement for the mosin
                Yeah, for PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory.
                >it was more of a scoped battle rifle
                No. It was never used that way. But I think you're just trolling at this point.
                >for half a decade it had no ammo
                Not true. Since it's inception the SVD shot the 7n1 ammunition which was adequate to achieve the desired precision. Afterwards the 7n14 was developed tailored to the SVD which further squeezed out more accuracy, but even before this load it was sufficient for its intended DMR role

                >PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory
                My mistake in saying sub-MOA. You said 1 MOA. And it’s actually 3 MOA. My point still stands.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh finally you admitted you were wrong just like I did. Good on you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol the blatant liar is now claiming that poor wording makes others the same as him

                what a subhuman piece of shit. why are SVDfags and slavaboo always like that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh fuck off moron. Sub-MOA is around 1 MOA. 3 MOA is no where near 1 MOA. You lied, repeatedly, and try to play the victim. You’re Slavic aren’t you?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              God those are sexy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            slavshitters need to kill themselves

            https://i.imgur.com/lBZeWxa.png

            >6000 dollars for a 2 MOA rifle

            >2 MOA rifle
            its 4 moa

            Cope: https://youtu.be/qeXQ51_qiPQ?t=259

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The problem is ammo availability. Right now per Ammoseek you have three options:
              >shoot bimetalic Russian ammo from Tula, Wolf, etc. that will be hard on the bore and dry up soon
              >shoot corrosive Yugo surplus
              >shoot new manufacture PPU or S&B that is about $0.80 per round
              If FEG ever sells a 308 version like the Chinese did, then we could really test the accuracy. Right now it's just an antiquated $6k collector's item with only two real options for ammo that aren't even match-grade.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Were 308 tigrs never imported in the US?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                .... Or reload for yourself? It's not hard to get x54r dies or 30 cal projectiles. It's not a magic gun, it's a russian .308 with a cool look. You'd have to do a little bit of workup but I can't imagine a world where 175 OTM's don't perform well out of a given rifle, unless the rifle is objectively shit. A gun is a gun. It can perform as well as the sum of its parts.

                Reminder that the cartridge itself is a long .308 in terms of ballistic performance. Same bullet weights, same velocities. You're just paying for a 'cooler' (read as 'different') rifle system. I guarantee an SR-25 gets russian dicks as hard as an SVD does here.

                So they already sold everything from the warehouses, that's why it isn't cheap anymore? We bought all the cheap stuff up? I'm sure that's part of it. But even new production AKs and such have all practically tripled in price.

                Also consider what's happening globally - inflation is rampant, we had a global shutdown/slowdown of all transit and logistics due to the chink virus, we have an explicitly anti-russian administration in office, Russia is at war with the West, and you're worried that firearms are more expensive than they used to be. Think, man - think!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget china is having their first wave of actual covid and they're lying about their death counts

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's not hard to get x54r dies or 30 cal projectiles
                Isn’t that more of an issue because it’s not actually .308” and is .312” or whatever? So the vast market of .30 cal bullets are actually undersized. That should cause some accuracy issues in terms of a precision rifle.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >More like 1 to 1,5 MOA
          SVD and PSLs are DMRs not sniper rifles
          theyre meant to supplement LMGs and engage targets constantly and shot hot
          which when shot hot is 4 MOA
          still better than any piece of shit m14, which is 5 MOA, either because it got hot, or you had the "tenacity" of cleaning it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >SVD and PSLs are DMRs not sniper rifles
            That's what I'm saying.

            >I just did?
            not your pics
            >PU mosin who needed to be at around 1 moa from the factory.
            lmao
            >It was never used that way
            It was used in place of a piece of shit mosin, i was talking about functionality.
            >Since it's inception the SVD shot the 7n1 ammunition
            That's a lie and you're full of shit. You should be beaten to death like the vatmoron scum you are for intentionally spreading lies.
            >which was adequate
            slimy gay

            Okay noguns.

            >More like 1 to 1,5 MOA with Barnaul and sub MOA with handloads and SB 174gr match ammo. With a SAG freefloat chassis system it becomes sub moa with almost all ammo.
            >sub MOA rifle
            >when the standard optic used 0.5 mil adjustments
            >fucking 1.72 MOA click adjustments
            >but trust me it shoots sub MOA
            Even if the rifle was capable of that, which it’s not, it’s issued with a gun that wouldn’t let you adjust accurately to where it’s hitting. It’s a 2-4 MOA gun. It’s meant to engage people at 600-800m. It’s not a tack driver.

            >Even if the rifle was capable of that, which it’s not
            I guess mine are magically enchanted then. I never got a sub moa group with its PSO optic, I got them with a picatinny adapter and a borrowed vortex viper to eliminate the optic factor. Of course normal accuracy with a 4x PSO is never going to be sub moa, but the rifle is capable of more.
            I might have worded it poorly but even in my first post I said it was a DMR and not a sniper rifle, but I still get 1 MOA at the range, which is more than adequate for it to be classified as a DMR even with it's 4x PSO which is more than adequate to hit man sized targets to 700m no problem (I don't have longer lanes at my range)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I never got a sub moa group with its PSO optic, I got them with a picatinny adapter and a borrowed vortex viper to eliminate the optic factor. Of course normal accuracy with a 4x PSO is never going to be sub moa,
              Then why are you so adamant that they are sub MOA rifles? Basically all of them were issued with the shitty PSO scope, and with ammo that’s not sub MOA. The vast majority of them did not see that performance and were not capable of that performance.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not adamant they are all sub moa in all conditions, I said that with normal ammo both my svd and tigr from my testing sample of 2 are around 1 MOA, and with match grade ammo I got sub MOA with both albeit not with their PSO scope. I feel like it should be mentioned when a rifle can perform better if the limiting factors are the scope and ammo. Shouldn't most variables be eliminated when testing the accuracy of a rifle?

                >That’s correct.
                That's not even correct, that pidor is outright lying. 7N1 was adopted in 1967 and God knows when became common among the troops. By that point many thousands of SVDs had been already built and delivered to the army.

                Where do you get the 1967 date of adoption for the 7n1?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Where do you get the 1967 date of adoption for the 7n1?
                In pretty much any russian sources. I guess russiadefense forums where scum like you reside don't use those. http://www.gpodyssey.ru/oruzhie/104-snajperskaja-vintovka-dragunova-svd.html

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Shouldn't most variables be eliminated when testing the accuracy of a rifle?
                That is true, but then it would be better to define the 2 accuracies as "battle accuracy" and "rifle potential"
                >7n1 adoption
                In an older book I read I remember clearly that the 7n1 was developed together with the SVD rifle, but it doesn't mention the years. It is true tho that the SVD performed better with the second variation of the 7n14.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is like saying that a AR15 with a bushnell and tula ammo shooting 6 MOA means the AR15 is a 6 MOA rifle.
                No shit you dip, but hear me out if you are gonna drop 2-6k or more now days on a rifle, are you just gonna run cheap trash through it? Yeah the match ammo is expensive but I don't buy a Ruger PR to shoot etheopian surplus ammo through it and I don't buy a draco to shoot match ammo through it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is like saying that a AR15 with a bushnell and tula ammo shooting 6 MOA means the AR15 is a 6 MOA rifle.
                No it isn’t, because a standard off the shelf AR isn’t a 1 MOA gun. No one is claiming they are. A standard off the shelf AR is more accurate than an average SVD though.
                >No shit you dip, but hear me out if you are gonna drop 2-6k or more now days on a rifle, are you just gonna run cheap trash through it?
                I’m not going to drop $6k on a fucking SVD when I can get a better rifle for a third of that cost, buy a nice scope, and buy over a thousand rounds of good ammo. That is irrelevant to the inherent accuracy of an SVD, which isn’t very good. Maybe the B&Ts will be changed and will be better. But the base design isn’t.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m not going to drop $6k on a fucking SVD when I can get a better rifle for a third of that cost
                No one is buying them for their performance or for an actual loadout. They are neat rifles to scrath your svd itch. If practicality was the only factor the only 2 guns sold would be the ar15 and a glock

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No one is buying them for their performance or for an actual loadout.
                I realize that. But there’s also a gay in here defending their performance. And you started this discussion with me about performance.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >More like 1 to 1,5 MOA with Barnaul and sub MOA with handloads and SB 174gr match ammo. With a SAG freefloat chassis system it becomes sub moa with almost all ammo.
          >sub MOA rifle
          >when the standard optic used 0.5 mil adjustments
          >fucking 1.72 MOA click adjustments
          >but trust me it shoots sub MOA
          Even if the rifle was capable of that, which it’s not, it’s issued with a gun that wouldn’t let you adjust accurately to where it’s hitting. It’s a 2-4 MOA gun. It’s meant to engage people at 600-800m. It’s not a tack driver.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            for all practical purposes, a 4 MOA gun is going to miss anything besides a 3 foot gong at 800Y.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also with a 4x scope you aren’t doing much of anything at 800 yards

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol no they're shitty rifles with shitty trigger and clanky shift parts that shift around just like AKs
          A basic bitch AR10 is superior in every single way except form/aesthetics

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dont think I've ever shot an AR10 that could make it through a mag of ammo without jamming.
            Owners always blamed the mags or ammo too. Was funny.
            Now I sorta want a SVD, but I dont want a gun associated with either Pidor Battalion of Ukraine or the Sodomite Slavic hoards of Russia.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I dont think I've ever shot an AR10 that could make it through a mag of ammo without jamming.
              That isn’t true in the slightest and you know it. Maybe AR-10s from 20 years ago. I can get a PSA AR-10 right now for less than $1000 thats reliable

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > 20 years ago
                yes, this is true. I admit it was about 15 years ago and that gun was probably 5 years old.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >shitty trigger
            The trigger is actually very nice for a bone-stock DMR.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like Christiansen Arms.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'd spend $800 on a Ruger American and a Vortex scope at that point.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ruger American
      garbage like all ruger products. buy a bergara, tikka or howa instead

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The rifles alone are over 1k as opposed to 800 for the rifle and cheap scope

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes that's correct, because quality costs more. but in this case not terribly more

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sadest most fucked up thing about this is its MAC's fault.

    this will sell out instantly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MAC is a shill gay

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well it's cheaper than what used ones have been going for in recent years at least. Is FEG making PSO scopes for them though?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >B14 HMR
    >IRay TH50C

    Yep.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it worked for Mishaco and MAC, will work for them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is a video of Mishaco taking shots of liquor while explaining the drama. Personally I’d rather have Vepr in 7.62x54R.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mishaco
      The blind guy was in on the scam now too?!
      It wasn't just that fuckstick whinging greybeard MAC?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    remember when tim stole 100 svds?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      remember when pay pigs give that retard money. He's a millionaire and still begs his pay piggies for cash

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn’t know Bill Burr was working for B&T now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That cuck doesn't even own a gun why would he ever work in the firearm industry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He owns at least a shotgun and a 22.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No he doesn’t, his hideous nog wife cucked him out of guns and made him give away his dog, he’s an enormous bitch and he hasn’t been funny in years.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$6k for a 7.62x54r rifle after Russian ammo just got banned

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wish PSA would clone this shit instead of making non correct stg 44 garbage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1 Moa svd shaped object would be cool

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >instead of making non correct stg 44 garbage.
      The work on that was already done for them though. I don't see how this is a one or the other deal.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not I am just mad I can't afford this SVD and PSA isn't making a correct clone of the stg in 8mm kurz. In before stop being poor. I would if I could.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if poor is the issue why the fuck would you want it in a mostly dead caliber pumped out by only one company at best. if I scrimp my pennies to buy a gucci gun I'm buying a scar in .308 not a sig spear in .277 furry.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if I scrimp my pennies to buy a gucci gun I'm buying a shitty AR18 that destroys itself not a shitty AR15 that destroys itself
            Just buy an M1A bruv.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              M1As are the worst .308 battle rifle or DMR you can get

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just plain wrong, literally everyone who has one or even who has just shot one will agree it's an extremely nice rifle.
                Speaking from experience it's more comfortable to shoot than literally any other semi auto .308 I have owned PTR, FAL, SCAR, AR10 all of them I sold but kept the M1A because it was actually enjoyable. Haven't owned or even shot any of the more boutique or rarer battle rifles like the BREN2 or 308 Galils but they would need to be pretty damn good to out do the M1A.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Speaking from experience it's more comfortable to shoot than literally any other semi auto .308
                Because you have a heavy as fuck match version and shoot from a bench all the time. The M1A is not as accurate, heavier, and you have consistent recurring issues with accuracy and bedding every time you dissemble and clean. God forbid if you ever get into mud or sand. Which realistically, none of us do, but still.

                Imagine claiming M1As are the peak battle rifle in the current year +7

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's a standard scout model that I have used for both target shooting and hunting for years, and since I have actually owned the guns I'm talking about I can tell you it's lighter than the G3, better balanced than the FAL, slightly heavier than the SCAR and AR10 but not by much since both of those have shit or no irons and an optic makes up that difference. I never claimed it was peak battle rifle I said it's good and I like it more than every other one I've owned. They are all fine guns and none of them except the PTR had major issues, just didn't like them.
                As far as accuracy goes it shoots somewhere between 1-2 MOA with M80 ball and 1 or less with Sierra, but I also haven't taken it past about 400 yards so maybe it would open up more. As far as practical accuracy offhand I can only shoot at about 3 MOA standing or 2 on a good day and every one of those rifles could do that or better. The stock bedding shit was never an issue I thought it would be but still after thousands of rounds and at least 100 disassembles it's still good to go, definitely more loose than when I got it but it's still tight.
                Finally, yes sand and mud in the action will absolutely jam it up as will just holding the damn thing wrong, but that's never been an issue for me and I don't know many people willing to just throw their gun into the mud and blast off for fun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I never claimed it was peak battle rifle
                Stopped there. Because I said it was the worst battle rifle or .308 DMR. And you argued against that. I never asked what you liked more. I’m talking performance. Show me performance.

                Also
                >scout version
                >shorter barrel
                >brags it’s lighter
                No shit Sherlock. It’s almost like steel is heavy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based metafag retard.
                Go actually shoot for once in your life my guy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                Thanks for proving me right

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >delusional boomer thinks his benchrested safe queen is a "battle" rifle

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the fact that they dont have a pistol grip makes them shit on a stick. sorry boomer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I can't afford this SVD
          >he thinks he could afford a proper STG44 repro in 8mm kurz, given the extremely limited production numbers such a gun would see
          Anon, I...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair to him, actual STG44 repros made from Original WW2 tooling are only 4k, while still expensive I'd rather pay that much for something that rare than 6k for a dragunov that is common everywhere but here

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >actual STG44 repros made from Original WW2 tooling
              Are those even obtainable in the USA? I remember some anons said parts kits with receiver flats were imported and sold for $4k, but no more are coming over.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know people like to LARP as crypto billionares or something around here but calling somebody poor over a $6k gun is fucking retarded anyway. I grew up pretty well off and make good money but there's a lot of shit I'd rather have for six grand than a fucking Hungarian Dragunov. Maybe it'd be different if it was my dream gun since childhood or whatever but I think very few people on here can actually justify a $6k gun, especially when we've all got a million other expensive things we'd rather have.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >$6k towards a new dirtbike
            >Hungarian Dragunov
            Yeah this is fucking dumb, lol. It's a Soviet era DMR. You can buy today's latest and greatest for less.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Funny enough a bike is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote that. I really want to get into ADVs but I'm not sure if I'm gonna get a dual sport or a lightweight ADV as a starter, never had a bike before so I don't want to go too overboard or spend a ton on something I'm probably gonna drop in the first month.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Spring for an adv, maybe even a 650. I started on the Z400 and not only did I not drop it, the bike got small on me very fast

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have a dr650, I recommend it to people often.
                My biggest gripe with it is it's not a six speed, so if you change the sprocket for lower first gear you lose a bit off your top end.
                Aside from that they are fucking great, especially because it's an ancient design - cheap, fun, economical, easy to fix and find parts for.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just not that big of a guy, 30" inseam, so I'm concerned about the combo of height and weight with zero experience if I get a 650 or bigger ADV.

                I started on a honda dual sport and I stand by they are the most enjoyable of the 6 or so bikes I've owned.

                Yeah, I hear good things about the Hondas aside from the suspension, which is fixable if it really comes down to it. I like the looks of them more than the other brands too.

                >sssiiipp
                >yep CRF 450, all ya need son
                If you have kids and want to teach them, I'd recommend the CRF 250 instead tho

                Nah, kids are unlikely to ever happen. I'm 36 and haven't had a date in years and my career isn't very conducive to relationships or especially raising kids. Maybe things will change when I move out of SoCal though, been stuck here for the last decade (not really by choice, took what was supposed to be a short-term job and then got trapped) and women here are a fucking nightmare compared to pretty much anywhere else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I started on a honda dual sport and I stand by they are the most enjoyable of the 6 or so bikes I've owned.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sssiiipp
                >yep CRF 450, all ya need son
                If you have kids and want to teach them, I'd recommend the CRF 250 instead tho

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                CRF 250 is fine for adults also. But you do make a good point

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly. I could get an AR-10, a scope, and a thermal to swap to for $6k or less. And I’d end up with a more accurate rifle with better ammunition availability that is much better to reload for.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Get a crf250l they are based and cheap and easy to sell, if you want to go like 120mph get the 450

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A large portion of the people who try to make things about money are from urban areas where income is normally higher, who have started making up a large portion of gun owners in recent years. It's a lot easier for someone to drop a couple grand on a gun when rent for a studio apartment where they live is already over a grand.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A couple grand is one thing, six grand is another IMO. There's a lot of stuff for $2k that's either better than cheaper stuff or where there's no cheaper equivalent, once you're up to $6k you're way into diminishing returns and I'd rather have three $2k guns or two $3k guns or whatever for the money. That's all before you factor in the cost of an appropriate optic and some spare mags, which I'd guess are egregious. (Existing ones on the market seem to be about $100 each, dunno what B+Ts spares will cost.)
              Personally the only gun I'd spend $6k on is a nice sporting over/under shotgun but I view that sort of thing differently because you're getting a gorgeous hand-finished heirloom piece and it's something you can actually get a lot of use out of shooting clays or hunting. The Dragunov, on the other hand, is a stamped piece of shit that's only expensive because it's rare and "iconic."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The Dragunov, on the other hand, is a stamped piece of shit that's only expensive because it's rare and "iconic."
                No it isn't. It's a milled semi automatic match rifle from a dude who shot competitively at the highest levels. It's old af sure but revolutionary at the time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's old af sure
                True
                >but revolutionary at the time.
                Delusional

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's completely right. The rifle came out in the 60s as a full on production semi-automatic marksman rifle. The west had literally nothing similar. The closest thing until the M110 was adopted decades later would be individually accurized practically semi-custom rifles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are supremely dumb and delusional. Literally 0 idea what you're talking about.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, you just don't know anything about what you are talking about. The US had literally no equivalent to the dragunov. The one thing we had close to it were individually accurized M14s (ie, M21), and that would remain the case straight up until fucking 2008. Literally four and a half decades after the Dragunov entered service. Otherwise it was bolt action M24s.

                The only other western marksman rifle of note would be the PSG-1, which again, was a heavily customized service rifle.

                It's easy in an age of readily accessible AR10s to imagine it was always like this. It wasn't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely deluded retard. Massively dumb and stupid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It must be nice being so blissfully ignorant, too stupid to even realize how dumb you are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, smart soviets that stole all their technological achievments totally outwitted dumb westerners, you're very right my brain damaged slavaboo friend.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It must be nice being so blissfully ignorant, too stupid to even realize how dumb you are.

                Get a room

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll fuck your mouth if you don't shut it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                US and the entire NATO had dragunov equivalents for their entire armies for decades before soviet shit-eaters made theirs. All you had to do is pick a better shooting one out of the armory and put a scope on it.

                Comparing it to actual sniper rifles is what an utterly retarded kid would do. Were you dropped on your head as a kidm i.e. 5 or so years ago?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >US and the entire NATO had dragunov equivalents for their entire armies
                Wrong. They had literally zero equivalents, which would become a major problem for Germany and lead to multiple rifles being built to fill the role.
                >All you had to do is pick a better shooting one out of the armory and put a scope on it.
                Nice, your service rifle that has to be hand customized and was never even meant to mount a scope in the first place sure is equivalent to a production line mass produced rifle. No wait, it's not the same thing at all!

                Yes, smart soviets that stole all their technological achievments totally outwitted dumb westerners, you're very right my brain damaged slavaboo friend.

                >nooo you can't point out facts I don't like!
                Go back to twitter before you forget to breathe and pass out dimwit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wrong. They had literally zero equivalents
                You repeat this but this just isn't true.
                >Nice, your service rifle that has to be hand customized
                Poor strawman, the rifles that were customized were head and shoulders above the soviet rickety junk of the period.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You know that PSO scope on a side mount doesn't really look good as a comparison to the "rifles that never meant to mount a scope", right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dedicated scope on a dedicate mount doesn't look good compared to an M14 that literally has no scope mount
                uh right

                >Wrong. They had literally zero equivalents
                You repeat this but this just isn't true.
                >Nice, your service rifle that has to be hand customized
                Poor strawman, the rifles that were customized were head and shoulders above the soviet rickety junk of the period.

                >You repeat this but this just isn't true.
                That's wrong. We can sit here all day and argue about it, but your bitch feelings don't matter. A production line mass produced gun that's actually issued is nowhere near the same thing as hand-selected and customized rifles.
                >Poor strawman
                Not a strawman, stick to words you understand or you'll look even dumber than you actually are. That's a low bar to meet, try not to go lower. From post #1 I have very clearly stated this fact. Your ESL ass being unable to read past your hurt feelings isn't my problem.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dedicated scope on a dedicate mount
                lol
                >That's wrong. We can sit here all day and argue about it, but your bitch feelings don't matter.
                Anger and insults, the delusional cultist has nothing else to offer.
                >A production line mass produced gun
                My toilet is a better production line than a soviet factory.
                >Not a strawman
                It is a strawman. A stock rifle that's better than average for standard infantry rifles from the infantry rifle production line will shoot as good as the svd. A hand fitted rifle will shoot like no soviet gun of comparable type has ever shot.

                After this guy bitching about ESL out of the blue i wonder if it's armatard protecting another of his golden calfs again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Anger and insults

                It must be nice being so blissfully ignorant, too stupid to even realize how dumb you are.

                facts and logic didn't work and you clearly seem to value anger and insults more. It's the only argument you have offered at all that had any weight afterall. I suspect you don't listen at all unless someone is able to shout louder than you to get through your thick retarded moron skull. So I will shout. You're less than an ape. An ape is capable of learning and doesn't get mad when it finds out something new. You do. You absolute cretin.
                >It is a strawman
                No, it's not. You do not know what a strawman argument even is. You simply know it as a buzzword to shout whenever you're losing an argument.
                >A stock rifle that's better than average for standard infantry rifles from the infantry rifle production line will shoot as good as the svd. A hand fitted rifle will shoot like no soviet gun of comparable type has ever shot.
                See, this here however is a strawman argument. You are inventing an argument and attacking it, rather than the statement itself. I did not say a customized M14 is bad, less accurate than a dragunov, or anything of the sort. That is your own fabrication.

                A hand customized rifle can shoot good. What it can't do is be issued to enough people to make a significant difference on the battlefield. This is why having a mass produced marksman rifle is important. You can argue against this objective fact, but the US and NATO as a whole agree with me and put out contracts for such rifles.
                >m-muh armatard muh esl
                Maybe stop arguing like a halfHispanic moron and I won't assume you just don't speak fucking English mongoloid dipshit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol, pretty positive this is armatard. lying and disingenous arguments make sense now.

                russia will never be a real power.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure you're sure of a lot of things. That's what it's like being retarded. The problem is you're always wrong.

                Armatard doesn't even own guns. You two have that in common.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                armatard also sucks donkey dicks and is afraid of his own mother.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s just a run of the mill vatnik. I asked him earlier if he even owned one and he didn’t reply.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post guns, we did after all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I did. The AR way earlier is me. I’m not the guy you just asked to post guns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rifle so shit he won't even link it
                >t-trust me bro I already did
                yeah sure retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fine I’ll do it again. Bottom one is same as

                https://i.imgur.com/7TbRCPU.jpg

                Why lie? That was my ar.

                Then post it again. I dare you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Burden of the proof is on you, as I already posted it once.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shit forgot to attach it

                Burden of the proof is on you, as I already posted it once.

                I accept your defeat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >42kb ant picture cropped from my collection picture
                >no timestamp
                Lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why lie? That was my ar.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, it's not.
                Yes it is. Arguing like you can only compare handfit guns to the inaccurate POS that is the SVD is a strawman. Going into wordy armatard-esque tirades won't change that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes it is.
                No it's not. Stating a production line rifle is not the same thing as a custom one can't even be a strawman argument-it's a statement. Whining like a dipshit won't change that. Learn what words mean, before using them Jamal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it's not.
                Yes it is. Claiming that you can only compare the gun to custom ones when there are examples of production line guns is a strawman. Trying to evade the fact won't make it go away, you're a fallacious dishonest vatnik shitter, armatard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Claiming that you can only compare the gun to custom ones when there are examples of production line guns is a strawman.
                Name a semi-automatic production line marksman rifle available in the 1960s.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                M1-D. Literally the only mod is a scope mount.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mod
                I accept your defeat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Compared to the garbage that is PSO, i guess SVD really just can't compare, true. No wonder soviets themselves hardly ever use them and instead just resort to the similarly garbage iron sights.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the SVD is modded too because it has a scope mount?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No because it comes with a scope mount by design from the factory. It's not something added afterwards.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sniper garands were designed to be used with a scope

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your defeat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >add a scope mount
                So it's not a marksman rifle available from a production line in the 1960s.

                Compared to the garbage that is PSO, i guess SVD really just can't compare, true. No wonder soviets themselves hardly ever use them and instead just resort to the similarly garbage iron sights.

                You've only ever seen a PSO in videogames.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's more of a marksman rifle than SVD, i'll tell you that much. The PSO is borderline unusable, just like most russian military hardware you shill for, armatard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The PSO is borderline unusable
                >says the noguns who never used one even after multiple people who own dragunov told him the exact opposite and even posted groups.
                Don't pop a vein, hun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You own 0 guns, armatard. You're also a stinky mud blooded vatmoron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Noguns is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But tell him to post guns and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Armatard is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a mutt, vatnik, pidor, schizo, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But tell him he sucks donkey dicks and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You own 0 guns, armatard. You're also a stinky mud blooded vatmoron.

                Your turn now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >shitflings saying you don't own guns
                >gets btfo by half the thread
                >let things simmer down
                >repeat shitfling by talking shit about things you know nothing about as you arw a noguns
                Really? Again?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you samefagging, armatard?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you sit here and whine about guns, when you don't own any?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't understand people who think that if they like x they must hate y.
                I like ARs, I like AKs, I like Dragunovs, I like Garands, etc.
                Neat rifle anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't understand people who think that if they like x they must hate y.
                He's a /v/irgin. The only thing he knows how to do is rabidly whine like it's a console war. It doesn't need to make sense.
                >Neat rifle anon.
                thanks

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Armatard is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a mutt, vatnik, pidor, schizo, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But tell him he sucks donkey dicks and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out".

                You own 0 guns, armatard. You're also a stinky mud blooded vatmoron.

                Of course you ran away a second time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Armatard is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a mutt, vatnik, pidor, schizo, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But tell him he sucks donkey dicks and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out".

                Why are you samefagging, armatard?

                Still waiting for your guns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, the PSO is fine. So is the dragunov. You just think it's bad because you don't know which chevron to aim with in videogames. You've never seen either in real life and never will.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You've only ever seen a PSO in videogames.
                Same as you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                M1C, M1D, M21. Portugal had AR-10s with scopes in 1960. Like I said this morning at the very beginning of this thread.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >M1C, M1D, M21
                None of which are production line mass produced rifle. All are customized service rifles, exactly as I said.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >inaccurate POS
                See

                https://i.imgur.com/L88m9yF.jpg

                Were 308 tigrs never imported in the US?

                https://i.imgur.com/i8UQ3AX.png

                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                Cope: https://youtu.be/qeXQ51_qiPQ?t=259

                https://i.imgur.com/7M6Y1Il.jpg

                [...]
                Try 1.5 MOA with chinkshit surplus

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here's a Brazilian FAL shooting 1 MOA group using irons. So much for the much vaunted soviet precision.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >2.5" group
                >1 MOA
                lol, retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't watch the video, there's 1 MOA group. Who's the retard here?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there's 1 MOA group
                There's nothing even close to 1 MOA.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's old af sure but revolutionary at the time.
                >vatmorons think a semi auto rifle with a 4x scope is revolutionary in 1963
                >laughs in M1C and M1D Garand
                M1 carbines had rudimentary night vision at the end of WWII and in Korea. It was heavy and only worked for about 100 yards but it existed. That’s revolutionary. The first mass issued semi auto rifle is revolutionary. A semi auto rifle with a low power fixed scope is not.

                Pic related. A Portuguese AR-10 with a 3.6x scope. From 1960 you absolute idiot.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Not clone correct
          That is gay, but
          >Not in 8mm Kurz
          They said that would be available. And while it's extremely unpopular, it is attainable, and brass can be made from any .30-06/8mm Mauser/.308 based cartridge.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not I am just mad I can't afford this SVD
          Very few people can. I “could” but it would be financial burden. Yeah I could not save/invest for 3-4 months but that’s dumb. Spending $6k on a gun that isn’t even that good at what it does is retarded. People who buy this are actually really rich, which is 1-5% of the total population, or idiots with zero future planning skills

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No you wouldn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not I am just mad I can't afford this SVD and PSA isn't making a correct clone of the stg in 8mm kurz. In before stop being poor. I would if I could.

      PSA should make the ammo for it first.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol get fucked. I would pay 1500$ for a dragunov. Not a penny more

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stay broke loser

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only worth if you really like the aesthetics of the rifle. Otherwise, there's much better deals to be had elsewhere.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only reason 90% of people want this is because it was in cawadooty. There’s no appeal to it other than looks and rarity so you can flex in poorfags at the range.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can already do that with a PSL because no one at the range can tell the difference

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or you could bring an SR-25, or SCAR-20S, or some super accurate home build AR-10. $6k for this is fucking ridiculous lol.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not as good looking, but it's still got the vibe. I just wish surplus mags were easier to find at a decent price.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Neat PSL anon.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks fren

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the polymer mags work fine

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nice, I'll czech them out.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.impactguns.com/semi-automatic-rifles/zastava-m91-sniper-rifle-7-62x54r-24-barrel-posp-4x24-scope-w-mount-10rd-mag-682863126105-sr91762

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6k is a low price for an SVD, the greatest rifle ever made. This is actually competitive with the current low end of the SVD used market, tigrs and NDM86 (5-12k). Set it up right and it will shit over any LMT MARS, Stag-10, Ruger SFAR, DPMS LR308, POF DI revolution, SR-25, 417, XCRM, or any other assorted garbage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Set it up right and it will shit over any LMT MARS, Stag-10, Ruger SFAR, DPMS LR308, POF DI revolution, SR-25, 417, XCRM,
      Sure sure whatever you say

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

      OH

      Oh..... fuck

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...... Wow. This took some serious time and effort, and it's very, very silly. I appreciate it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its okay to like a gun anon but with this level of pure stalinium grade copium how have you not passed out yet.
      >t. used to custom guns.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is this from again? I remember this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          something in me wants to say spy kids. idk why

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice! I can't wait to pick two up. That's a great price for an SVD.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nice! I can't wait to pick two up. That's a great price for an SVD.

    Advertising is against the rules

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's advertising to be exciting a gun I wanted now costs less than half as much
      yeah alright bud, I'd be miserable too if I couldn't afford an SVD.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Svd is shit
    No, I will not elaborate

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Even if we take your cope that its 2MOA, that is still enough to reliably hit a human at 900m
    >$6000
    FN, KAC, LMT, you can practically buy any western equivalent that has seen modern military use and ease of accessorizing, for the same or less than $6000, holy fuck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $4k for an LMT+$2k optic or $6k for Hungarian shit. Yeah pretty easy math there

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I'd take the SVD all day. Why would you spend $4k on an LMT + Optic? You will literally never be rightside up on that if you try to sell it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because he would actually shoot it? Crazy idea around here I know

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can shoot an SVD just as easily as you can shoot an LMT .308. And unlike an LMT, an SVD will have a different shooting experience that distinguishes it from a $1500 Stag/Aero etc. AR-10. An SVD is just a cooler gun. What satisfaction could you possibly get out of shooting shooting an MWS or something that another random AR couldn't give you?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What satisfaction could you possibly get out of shooting shooting an MWS or something that another random AR couldn't give you?
              Not him but better performance and accuracy gives satisfaction.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $4k for an LMT+$2k optic or $6k for Hungarian shit. Yeah pretty easy math there

      >appealing to practicality and price/performance when niche collector guns are involved
      Are you pretending to be retarded?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah they're too sore to admit they are wrong. It's like bitching at someone buying a nice vintage car they like with their disposable income because you can have a shitbox for 1/3 the price.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its either a collectors item or something still useful and accurate compared to modern rifles. it cannot be both anon.
          >you cant have your cock and eat it too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >still useful and accurate compared to modern rifles
            It's a lightweight sub-2 MOA semi rifle in a full power rifle caliber with a somewhat passable 4x scope.
            If you think this is somehow an unusable relic from the prehistory of firearms, I dunno what to tell you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So are you saying a WA2000 is not a collector item? Because it's both accurate, historic and rare. Plenty of guns are.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >seems less than 200 were ever made.
              no shit thats a collectors item you massive retard. how did you even think this was comparable.

              https://i.imgur.com/I9v5fOS.jpg

              >still useful and accurate compared to modern rifles
              It's a lightweight sub-2 MOA semi rifle in a full power rifle caliber with a somewhat passable 4x scope.
              If you think this is somehow an unusable relic from the prehistory of firearms, I dunno what to tell you.

              >spending 6k on a "2moa" rifle with old ammo.
              you do you man.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you do you man
                I actually spent around $2k on it because I'm not a burger, but your point was that it isn't relevant today at all, meanwhile it'll still kill a bro within 600m easy.
                Sure anyone can get an AR10 variant with a FAR better glass for less, but it's still doing roughly the same job, stop acting like it's a flintlock.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                never said it was completely useless just that for the money its pointless. i was comparing the 6k rifle not whatever you bought it for. whoever buys a 6k svd and expects it to be as good as a modern 6k rifle or even half the price has crippling stupid in there genepool.
                >well i bought a case of mosins in 1978 for 100 bucks is a terrible argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >whoever buys a 6k svd and expects it to be as good as a modern 6k rifle or even half the price
                You are imagining a person in your head and getting upset with them.
                Stop.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you projecting some dumb shit you clearly do.
                stop.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >6k
                Outside of the US tigrs are 1.2k and svd around 2-3k.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In the US a dragunov IS a collector item. Same way a fucking SW mp15 is a collector item in bongland.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >seems less than 200 were ever made
                You're free to take a guess as to how many genuine SVDs are there in the US

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >imported vs ever made implying they could be imported later vs only less than 200 existing period.
                whut

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying they could be imported late
                >banned by name

                Really now bro
                Supply and demand ring no bell?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope you burgers get rid of dumb import laws like these because dragunovs are really fun guns. With the number you could sell in the US they would easily go under 1k usd. Around here there are a couple of boomers who hunt boars with svds in 9mm brenneke.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I hope you burgers get rid of dumb import laws
                Sadly, it's never going to happen because the laws are unfortunately supported by both sides of the aisle and most domestic firearms companies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >svd in 9x64

                stop, please, i dont get jealous of eurogays often but this is too much

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know how well you can actually hold your rifle till the svd in 9,3x64 brenneke that the local boomer is letting you try out starts slamfiring because he cleaned it only once in 10 years and the firing pin gets stuck in the out position.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >slamfiring SVD
                you now have my attention.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With svd if you don't clean them they can eventually start slamfiring, but it's rare. Now they all have a spring in the firing pin channel to prevent that. Still even a spring doesn't help when boomer-san doesn't know that you're supposed to clean your gun at least once every 10 years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wish because 9mm SVD makes my dick tingle but unfortunately probably not

                Non hunter here. Why are hunters so obsessed with 9 brenneke?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying we want any guns banned.
                >they keep importing retards into the city to pump out what results they want.
                >implying we dont want 1.5k SVD's or other cool shit.
                lazy nig nogs got into office and found a way to pander to the lowest common denominator.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wish because 9mm SVD makes my dick tingle but unfortunately probably not

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >6k usd for mac sloppy seconds
    No thanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I knew Mac was a scumbag but I didn't expect him to be so greedy over a few rifles when he's already a trust fun millionare.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He’s a garden gnome shill. Not surprised he acts so gnomish

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's more the importer's fault than his. They decided to offer him the entire lot of rifles for a lump sump rather than trying to collect preorders from AK Files members who didn't even put money down upfront.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, while I do think MAC was a garden gnome in the overall scenario, if you were the original exporter in this case, would you trust a bunch of randoms on a forum to upfront large sums of cash? I would be looking at realiable buyer alternatives like mac too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If I were an exporter I'd sell to whoever had the highest bid because isn't that the point? To make money? It isn't a charity operating on goodwill.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >asking to receive the product for which you put a down payement to is asking for charity
              Bootlickers, I swear.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              His point was a known figure willing to buy all at once may be less money in total, but it’s a lot safer than selling them one by one.

              Would you take an 90% chance at having $1M or a guaranteed $800k?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Time value of money, the smaller check up front is actually worth more once you account for the fact that you can reinvest that money right away.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well yeah that too. Although you’d need a large timeframe difference or really high returns to net a 12.5% difference.

                My point was your expected return is $900k vs $800k. Mathematically you pick the first option, but it depends on your risk tolerance. The guaranteed profit is very appealing because you have no risk.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why no cugir or zastava for a third of that fantasy sum?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You fucking moron, thats not that bad. What did you think they cost when they were able to be imported?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slavaboos deserve everything that's coming to them

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do I have to be poorfag

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Holy fuck vatnik cope is amazing. I can’t believe someone believes what they do. It’s great.

    Show me a sub 2 MOA dragunov. Shit just show me a SVD with a decently modern optic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Show me a sub 2 MOA dragunov
      every SVD in the first magazine/cold

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s true because I say it
        Like I said already, the issued PSO-1 scopes for SVDs have fucking 1.72MOA adjustments. How on earth is the rifle shooting 2 MOA when your scope adjusts at nearly 2 MOA?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>it’s true because I say it
          ~~*mac*~~ himself shooting 2 MOA @ 150

          ?t=272

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’ll admit that’s better than I expected. However it’s 1, 3 shot group on steel that’s not even measured. You need a 5 shot group to show anything. Two of those rounds stacked but the 3rd was at least 2” over. Would the 4th and 5th be right on top of the first two? Or would they also be 2” off? And in what direction?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              don't forget 7 moa dogshit (original and repo lmao)

              Try 1.5 MOA with chinkshit surplus

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where's the proof it was shot with an svd and it was actually chinese surplus? You probably shot at 50m you lying vatnik

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't generally timestamp every single pic of a group just to prove shit to strangers on the internet and it wouldn't have been sufficient proof to you anyway without video evidence (neither will be this).
                So believe what you want, this is your last (You).
                (Groups will open up to 5+ MOA with the wrong ammo, I will give you that.)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              go suck off the barrel of the m14 you love so much

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Swing and a miss. Ive been shitting on the M14. I’m the one that said it’s the worst .308 battle rifle.

                Also that’s completely irrelevant to what I said. Because you have no logical retort. A single 3 round group on steel that wasn’t measured doesn’t prove shit for accuracy. If that counts I’ve had a sub 1” group at 100 yards with a PSA and PMC 55gr. I do not think that those are a sub MOA combo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >adjust chevron to be roughly on target
          >aim at the same place
          >check groupings
          Anon, you know that it's not necessary to zero a rifle to check groupings? Have you ever shot a rifle?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. So you’re saying it’s a very accurate rifle but you can’t hit where you want? Great fucking gun you’ve got there

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >moving the goalpost

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't know a person was 3" wide.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn’t know you quantified accurate as the ability to hit a torso at 100 yards. By that metric the Brown Bess was good enough

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At this point I'm convinced you truly never shot a rifle if you're still on the retarded idea that a rifle can only be as accurate as the minimum turrets increments. Do you know that you can still accurately and perfectly zero a scope even if it had 5MOA clicks?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moving the topic again
                Kek
                >Do you know that you can still accurately and perfectly zero a scope even if it had 5MOA clicks?
                No I didn’t. I would love to hear how. I’m nearly certain you can’t, but if somehow you can I’ll learn something new.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By unscrewing the turrets and fine tuning the reticle like when you want to squeeze further 10MOA for long range
                >moving the goalpost
                How? It's you who is a nogun and doesn't even know the basic of shooting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >By unscrewing the turrets and fine tuning the reticle like when you want to squeeze further 10MOA for long range
                >Just disassemble your scope bro
                I thought you meant normal behavior

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now it's 100% confirmed you're either a noguns or never zeroed a scope. It's not disassemblying. It's the same fucking thing you have to do when zeroing a rifle amd you return the zero to the "1" on your turret.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unscrewing your turrets and manually moving them slightly to try to get finer adjustments than 1.72 MOA is absolutely not a normal thing to do when zeroing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moving the goalpost again
                Post guns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not even that anon, but stop playing word games you sad gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read

                By unscrewing the turrets and fine tuning the reticle like when you want to squeeze further 10MOA for long range
                >moving the goalpost
                How? It's you who is a nogun and doesn't even know the basic of shooting.

                And tell me that’s normal behavior for any scope that’s not extreme long range or a Russian piece of shit. And if it’s extreme long range, just get a scope made for it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The shitfling started because you're too retarded to understand that the moa derivation of turret clicks of an optic have fuckall to do with the accuracy of the rifle. He just showed you that if someone is autistic enough to want a perfect mathematical zero you can. You're just a retard who has too much ego to admit you're wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And if it’s extreme long range, just get a scope made for it.
                Why are you arguing about extreme long range with a DMR rifle with a 4x optic that it's perfectly adequate for shooting sub 600 yards, ie a fucking DMR?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why are you arguing about extreme long range
                I’m not?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because you aren't dialing you scope around while shooting a group you fucking retard. Besides that, 1.72 MOA adjustments still means that your zero will be within .86 MOA of where it should be.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Besides that, 1.72 MOA adjustments still means that your zero will be within .86 MOA of where it should be.
            Kek so only 5.16” off from your point of aim at 600 yards. You know, the distance this is made for.

            Are you that much of a contrarian or slavboo you’re defending the PSO?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not the guy you replied to but if you get lucky (obviously that's a bad concept but we're talking 60 year old rifle and optic combinations here fellas) then there's nothing to stop you from having a pretty precise system besides the shooter himself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you’re defending the PSO
              Yes. Considering no one ever had a problem hitting stuff even beyond 600m. You read a few numbers and without even understanding jack shit about the basics of zeroimg a rifle or shooting pretend to be an expert.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >posts a gun using a different fixed 4x while defending the PSO
                Kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't post a gun whatsoever
                Lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally the next post below you

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Kek so only 5.16” off from your point of aim at 600 yards
              Now consider all the other errors you'd be looking at at that distance, and that they aren't all going to align in the same direction.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. The PSO-1 is designed to work like the ACOG, just with calibrated BDC turrets rather than a modern BDC reticle, and better hold points for wind. Once you introduce all the error from relying on a fixed stadiametric rangefinder, not taking environmental factors into account besides wind calls, and the accuracy of the wind calls you're making, not having a perfect zero isn't that big of a deal.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: war tourist /int/shitters getting triggered by "no just because the design is russian doesn't mean it's complete trash"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ITT: resident vatniks lie and make shit up before being called out and crying about it profusely

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone i don't like is a vatnik
        Cry more, go troll on /b/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >behaves like a vatnik
          >lies like a vatnik
          >plays a victim like a vatnik
          hmm, i wonder who that might be?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >behaves like a vatnik
        >lies like a vatnik
        >plays a victim like a vatnik
        hmm, i wonder who that might be?

        And this is for rustling your jimmies. War tourists can fuck off PrepHole whatever side they're on.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >azov
          Baste

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >finland svds
      Wut?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Finns used them for a bunch of years, sako makes replacement parts. Only recently have they been going to replace them with sako made AR10s

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sako makes replacement parts
          Are they still available?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine wanting something that's been forbidden fruit,
    but buying it the same time as a million other yokels.
    Never join a club that would have you as member.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that shit ass furniture
    >whatever the FUCK is going on with that FSB

    Not even if you paid me, lmao.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      don't forget 7 moa dogshit (original and repo lmao)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >another svd slavaboo gay using stolen pictures

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Same cost as my L119A1 including optics
    I have lusted after an SVD since I was like 8 years old because of Conflict: Desert Storm, but $6k is fucking retarded.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      L129A1*

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From this thread i understoon one thing: SVD is the soviet M14.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The svd for it's time was okay and was adopted by multiple militaries. The m14 was a problem from the first day.
      They are both outdated nowaday.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is this the same rifle?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's an svd. But it's not the "hungarian" feg 18 shit they're importing.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    $6k isn't exactly out of my reach, but it's a lot for a rifle that is going to be a display piece 99% of the time and maybe shot once a year at most. I would buy the Sig MCX Spear at $4k before this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're going to buy an svd just save up a bit more and buy an ndm or a tigr instead of this weird monstrosity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem with buying something that old is you never know how it's been treated by bubba for the past 30 years.

        https://i.imgur.com/L88m9yF.jpg

        Were 308 tigrs never imported in the US?

        I don't think so.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >instead of this weird monstrosity.
        Dumb moron it's just the furniture + FSB. Swap that out and it's a dragunov.
        >Get a tigr or NDM instead
        An ndm would be fine too but you'll be paying more for a gun that's probably been shot a good amount but a TIGR has the cuck barrel that you'd spend hundreds or thousands on just the barrel then youd need to go to the effort of changing it and changing the furniture anyway.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This new version looks fine. The only thing I would do is thread the barrel to use a suppressor.

          >asking to receive the product for which you put a down payement to is asking for charity
          Bootlickers, I swear.

          Did the AK Files people actually put down money, or did they just post "put me down for one" when some rando asked if they want Dragunovs?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They did.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >TIGR has the cuck barrel
          Tigr barrel are the same as any other russian svd barrel. They come both in lomg barrel and short barrel. The only difference between a Tigr and a SVD nowadays is the bayonet lug. For all other differences you can find versions with or without.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tigr barrel are the same as any other russian svd barrel.
            Actually all Tigrs use a different twist rate than the military version, better suited for stabilizing heavy lead bullets.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, all russian SVD and Tigr produced (after 1970 for svds) nowadays use a 1:240mm twist rate for custom bullets like AP, API, explosive etc. The original twist rate was 1:320mm which nowadays is kept only by the NDM86. It wasn't just for the weight of the bullet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, Tigrs use 1:320mm twist rate, rather than the faster 1:240mm rate the military switched to after 1974 because they couldn't supply the match ammo consistently and wanted to use common API and tracer rounds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you mentally handicapped?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you? Izmash clearly states they use 320 twist rate for their civilian rifles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How come both my Tigr and all the other Tigrs I have seen in stores have clearly stated in their manual 1:240mm twist rate? You can literally try it with a cleaning rod and a brush

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess it's because KC are gays.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, butbit doesn't change the fact that my tigr has a 1:240mm twist rate.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How did the import market get like this? Because there's no real competition? Century used to import as much cheap shit as they could and would build a kit gun out of anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Century used to import as much cheap shit as they could and would build a kit gun out of anything.
      Because countries had warehouses of surplus guns that they wanted gone and were selling for a fraction of what they were worth. No one is selling new production guns at a loss like that unless they're going out of business.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So the countries selling stuff to the importers realized they were getting a raw deal and all raised their prices tenfold?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >importers realized they were getting a raw deal
          Anon, warehousing stuff costs money. All that cheap surplus that used to flood the market was because the cold war ended, and countries started looking at how much they were paying to have all the those guns and gear sitting in warehouses ready for mass conscription in the event of WWIII.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So the countries selling stuff to the importers realized they were getting a raw deal and all raised their prices tenfold?

            >Century used to import as much cheap shit as they could and would build a kit gun out of anything.
            Because countries had warehouses of surplus guns that they wanted gone and were selling for a fraction of what they were worth. No one is selling new production guns at a loss like that unless they're going out of business.

            I dunno about other milsurp, but the SVD and other russian guns aren't literally banned by name from importation?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not by name, only from russia, if it's an SVD made in Hungary or some other country it's fine.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So they already sold everything from the warehouses, that's why it isn't cheap anymore? We bought all the cheap stuff up? I'm sure that's part of it. But even new production AKs and such have all practically tripled in price.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But even new production AKs and such have all practically tripled in price.
              What new production AKs? The cheap ones from countries that were banned from import years ago? The cheap "US made" ones that were really just parts kits that came from cutting up finished guns that couldn't be legally imported?

              .... Or reload for yourself? It's not hard to get x54r dies or 30 cal projectiles. It's not a magic gun, it's a russian .308 with a cool look. You'd have to do a little bit of workup but I can't imagine a world where 175 OTM's don't perform well out of a given rifle, unless the rifle is objectively shit. A gun is a gun. It can perform as well as the sum of its parts.

              Reminder that the cartridge itself is a long .308 in terms of ballistic performance. Same bullet weights, same velocities. You're just paying for a 'cooler' (read as 'different') rifle system. I guarantee an SR-25 gets russian dicks as hard as an SVD does here.

              [...]
              Also consider what's happening globally - inflation is rampant, we had a global shutdown/slowdown of all transit and logistics due to the chink virus, we have an explicitly anti-russian administration in office, Russia is at war with the West, and you're worried that firearms are more expensive than they used to be. Think, man - think!

              >m-muh inflation
              A talking point used by retards who have no clue about the firearms market, but still want to try to participate in discussion for some reason.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >denying that USD is collapsing in real time and people who aren't retarded want to get paid more
                Ur dum lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >USD is collapsing in real time
                >total inflation since December of 2019 is 15%, rather than the 6% it was from December of 2016 to December of 2019
                You don't even know what collapse looks like if you think that's anything close to it. Pic related is in Venezuela, hitting 1000% inflation in as short as 3 months.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hitting 1000% inflation
                *900% inflation

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >import cucked SVD
    >6K
    lmao, no

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just get an sks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a Norinco but I wonder what I can do to it to put a red dot on it. Nothing bubba related. Could I get a rail that goes where the rear sight goes to?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trap encourages people to settle for things that barely pass for what they really want on a good day, from a good angle, if you squint
      Unsurprising tbh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gay
      >delusional
      >and dumb
      Checks out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plastics have really done a number on the human race.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >how to tell everyone you’re a noguns without saying “I’m a noguns”

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >sometimes it may pierce softer commercial primers causing a slamfire or KB
    That's not even how it works.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know how a stuck firing pin causes a slamfire, but I also know some SVDs have issues with the firing pin completely skewering soft primers, as in they are not detonating it but completely piercing it all the way through. Not sure what malf that would cause but I heard its an issue and i just thought it may be related.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    I appreciate your enthusiasm of SVDs and I like them too, but goddman you're an autistic wreck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He’s also wrong about like half of it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but I feel bad about stomping his enthusiasm.

        svd cut to a 9" barrel would be tits and would make boomers+collectors heads explode.

        The short stroke piston system is longer than 9"

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >But seriously comparing an M1D is very laughable. Western accurized rifles didn't become very well used until much later, and even then the M1C, M1D and M21 never saw that much use.
    You didn’t argue efficacy. You said it was revolutionary. Which is patently false. There were tens of thousands of M1Cs and M1Ds made for WWII and Korea.
    >The SVD was built from the ground up as a platoon sniper
    All the other SVD fags say it’s not a sniper rifle.
    >with provisions to double duty as a battle rifle.
    With 10 round mags. Lol. Lmao.
    >It was truly the end of small arms technology -- full stop. Evgeniyy F. Dragunov was a genius and the SVD is the greatest rifle ever made.
    Nice bait. You did make me reply again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nta but since you mentioned it, interestingly enough there are also 20rnd mags. But yeah, his claim that it was also a battle rifle is wrong.
      There are also some bakelite 20 rounders that are incredibly rare and sometime go as high as 1k each.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Huh didn’t know that. Not surprising I guess

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pic of the bakelite one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If M1 Garand with clips is a battle rifle than SVD can be too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All the other SVD fags say it’s not a sniper rifle.
      Its a matter of language. The term "DMR" didnt exist until a decade or two ago. Notice how many western DMRs from the era are also called "sniper" like the M21. The term "sniper" has been used for many things in history that do not fit the modern western definition of sniper rifle. The SVD is called a DMR retroactively because it fits that bill, but it was not designed as such. It was designed to replace the PU mosin in service, which was a platoon sniper. A platoon sniper rifle is simply a sniper rifle issued to the Platoon sniper which is attached to a company HQ. The SVD was not designed to be issued at a squad level, which technically means it should not be a DMR, or maybe it should be depending on what you consider a DMR to be. The term DMR is in quite wide acceptance in the west, but in Russia, most SVD and SVD shaped objects are referred to as Sniper rifles, because the term DMR hasn't quite caught on, the term DMR exists in a few phrases in russian that are kinda clunky and not as widespread as calling it sniper. Therefore I believe its most correct to refer to SVD as a platoon sniper, rather than DMR, even though both are correct. Many firearms designations in history change, like how the Lewis gun was an LMG before, but might not fit the modern definition for LMG.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The DMR terminology is pretty funny because pre 1960s the same role was known as just "snipers" and treated as such and used pretty commonly.

        Now in 1960s when western armies developed more modern sniper doctrine where the snipers are not generally operating as part of the regular infantry units but rather as specialized teams trained in not just marksmanship but also camouflage and reconnaisance so this inherited the new technology. Meanwhile soviets never developed such a doctrine and stuck on using the old doctrine and subsequently the term the same way, causing confusion, more as time went on. It's only in modern russia did they make the effort to recreate such a modern doctrine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/jl6juXf.jpg

      Nta but since you mentioned it, interestingly enough there are also 20rnd mags. But yeah, his claim that it was also a battle rifle is wrong.
      There are also some bakelite 20 rounders that are incredibly rare and sometime go as high as 1k each.

      Theres nothing wrong with the 10 round mags, its just a limit of the rimmed cartridge design. Those 20rd mags are vaporware, extremely rare and only made for SVU-A which was also extremely rare and limited production. However there is a russian company that makes a +5rd magazine extension, and 15 rds is almost 20, right?))
      Also If SVD can be called a DMR when it existed 45+ years before such a term existed, then it can be a battle rifle too.

      Im sorry for insulting the garand and M21, they are not bad rifles but I truly think SVD is the greatest rifle ever, so its hard for me to see eye to eye.

      its actually $7500, the rep was given the wrong price

      lol

      https://i.imgur.com/1SpTILs.jpg

      Nta, but now they have pic rel, freefloat barrel and picatinny dust cover. Honestly better than a shitty SAG chassis that they don't even cover with warranty.

      those SVDMs are also vapourware, rare and limited production, only issued to some select units

      [...]
      >Probably less than 10,000 were made before 1967-1968
      There are production records from 1966, when there were 3726 rifles produced, with 3825 more the following year. For comparison, that same year 377 thousands of AKs were made.

      Thank you anon, where did you find this information if you dont mind my asking? I would like to add it to my references

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here's an article, it's okay for the numbers if you look through the regular sugary russian autofellating propaganda. Just use the translate.
        https://www.kalashnikov.ru/v-epohu-akm/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Im sorry for insulting the garand and M21, they are not bad rifles
        Im not offended. The Garand is a fantastic rifle for its era. The M14/21 kinda sucks
        >but I truly think SVD is the greatest rifle ever, so its hard for me to see eye to eye.
        You can think that but you are objectively wrong. It’s not the best even in its era at what you say it does.

        You are missing my point entirely which is the SVD is not a revolutionary rifle. Full stop. It was done 2 decades prior and there were also contemporary competing designs which were better. Do you even own one?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          M21 isn't that bad. It's not great as a military weapon due to being difficult to service and pretty finnicky and sensititve to weather conditions, however it's a transitional design from the old infantry snipers into the modern sniper doctrine and within that doctrine it's more of a purebred sniper rifle than an SVD, for example. They went a long way to make a precision weapon out of a gun that wasn't particularly suited to that, including hand picked guns that were glass bedded and tightened, outfitted with a respectable 3-9 adjustable scope and match ammo were all the result of a lot of effort put into making it accurate, which was commendable for the technology and tools available at the time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >those SVDMs are also vapourware, rare and limited production, only issued to some select units
        No shit. The MOD was supposed to buy them for a program to replace older SVD but some russian big shot preferred having a third yacht

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    svd cut to a 9" barrel would be tits and would make boomers+collectors heads explode.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >If you were to put an SAG chassis on your rifle
    Which isn’t how SVDs are issued so that’s irrelevant

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nta, but now they have pic rel, freefloat barrel and picatinny dust cover. Honestly better than a shitty SAG chassis that they don't even cover with warranty.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice of them to catch up with the rest of the world from 20-30 years ago

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its actually $7500, the rep was given the wrong price

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek that's hilarious, source?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        video description in the TFB video as seen in OP

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Probably less than 10,000 were made before 1967-1968
    There are production records from 1966, when there were 3726 rifles produced, with 3825 more the following year. For comparison, that same year 377 thousands of AKs were made.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a british gay that fires guns whenever his majesty's government allows.

    The SVD is a fucking cannon to a noguns gay used to firing shotguns and AKs.

    7.62x39 is like a pea shooter by comparison.

    The SVD is basically a DMR right? Is the recoil worse than 7.62x51?

    I went straight back to the soft and playful AK and didn't bother with the SVD cos it was too angry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The SVD is basically a DMR right?
      Yes. And it’s decent to good at that.
      >Is the recoil worse than 7.62x51?
      Maybe. They are basically the same round. The gun weight and action will dictate recoil far more than the slight difference between any x51 and x54 loads

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've managed to shoot a few guns as I live next to the UKs biggest rifle range. lots of shotguns, a couple handguns, .22's, AK's, etc. For a noguns the SVD (which I shot in Poland) is quite the experience. Very hot and angry. I had no idea how to use the scope and the "instructors" were dogshit. My brother who actually used to shoot competitively was saying all the sights on all the guns weren't remotely zeroed anyway so I didn't hit shit with it, alas

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >buys zastava m91 as ultra cope cause cant get real SVD
    >this comes out
    im killing myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at the bright side, you're not supporting the garden gnomes at FEG and MAC.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like dragunovs

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For 6k you could buy
    >PVS-14
    >A decent rifle
    >ir illuminator
    >good NV compatible optics
    And have a much better time than blowing 6k on a rifle that just looks cool

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not both? Poorfags gets the rope

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