>$50,000, 10km range, weak ass 40mm warhead

>$50,000, 10km range, weak ass 40mm warhead
got out performed by $500 hobby drones. so name a more ovehyped weapon system in Ukraine right now.. you can't

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what blew up n- oh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he thinks I'm a vatnik. kys

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Switchblade 300 is a weapon to assassinate a terrorist without doing collateral damage to the innocent goat he's standing behind. Deployable and flyable with minimal training by any jarhead.

      Ukranians wish it had much bigger boom but we didn't build it to take out Russian IFVs. It worked perfectly well in its designed role. There's interviews with Ukrainian operators saying it flew better than anything when you just wanted to whack one very specific target like .

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Switchblade 300 is a weapon to assassinate a terrorist without doing collateral damage to the innocent goat he's standing behind.
        you can do that with a $1000 drone

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >1000 dollar drone
          Where did this meme came from? And no, thise drones can't really assasinate people all that well. Especially in a contested area where EW and full of enemy troops.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it has no staying power whatsoever, if that ifv that you spotted isnt there anymore 10mins later when the switchblade arrives, well sucks, you just wasted a switchblade for nothing and the ifv you wanted to hit is still around.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Switch blade is a good weapon for SOF, but terrible for regular infantry. Its too niche for its purpose, which is assasination of leaders/figures. Switch blade would be best if its used deep inside russian controlled lines and killing commanders. Or maybe going inside russia itself and targeting high valye targets there, but i doubt the U.S. will allow that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >when the switchblade arrives
          One positive they have is unlike an FPV it can be carried to the front, since the operator only has to hold the slung launcher tube and the tablet, then can tap on a target then get back to what they were doing. To deploy FPV's they need a secure place for setting up, and launching them ahead of time. This doesn't make it so great for an attritional front like Ukraine, but they're absolutely superior to FPVs in terms of the drone operator's ability to suddenly respond to something like an IFV being present.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >To deploy FPV's they need a secure place for setting up, and launching them ahead of time
            This is a countermeasure to not get detected and killed by enemy EWAR directing artillery towards your position. Any wireless system is going to be vulnerable to this sort of detection no matter what kind of encryption it has. Full stop.

            >So that's 48 complete FPV packages for 1 switchblade. Or 96 drones for 1 switchblade package.
            Thats if you're able to utilize them in working conditions without them bricking up or even getting damaged from small things
            >They are as accurate as the user. You're just talking out of your ass here honestly. There's nothing that makes them inherently bad at hitting individual targets.
            No, they aren't. Depending on the users skill, those drones aren't really accurate and often times have poor specs when it comes to controls/cameras
            >A stock DJI FPV drone can do 100mph without much of an issue. A switchblade isn't going to be moving any faster than that unless it's in an attack dive.
            Thats if they managed to reach to that point without crashing. Ukrainians and russians both reported that they lose thousands of drones on a weekly bases. Primarily due to EW/getting shot down by AA.
            >This is just speculation but yeah I will agree that FPVs are vulnerable to EW because they're using off the shelf hardware. We just don't know how "hardened" switchblades really are at all so it doesn't make sense to automatically say they're better.
            This ain't speculation. Literally military drones from small to big are made to be resistant towards EW attacks. Its one of the main criterias for it to be utilized in the military.

            >Thats if you're able to utilize them in working conditions without them bricking up or even getting damaged from small things
            Applies to literally any kind of electronics in the field.

            >No, they aren't
            ???
            Yes, they are. I fly FPV myself.

            >EW/AA
            You still have not explained exactly why you think Switchblades are magically better at this. They're just as vulnerable to AA fire and probably equally vulnerable to wide spectrum jamming since a powerful jammer always trumps everything else in range.

            > Literally military drones from small to big are made to be resistant towards EW attacks
            Maybe in terms of hacking or signal interception, but there is very little anyone can do about running into a jamming signal that just drones out communication between the drone and the operator.
            There's no "counter EW" trump card. You can try things like hopping between frequencies or whatever but if your enemy is blasting noise all over the spectrum then you're just out of luck.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I tried them both and FPV drones as a singularity is dog shit. You want an army of them to be able to produce any results.
              >t.ukie

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                FPV drones are not very easy to fly right out of the gate. It takes a bit of practice. If you just had a crash course and only a little experience then I'd understand why you'd think they're trash.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, you have to be precise when it comes to locations and also takes more time to set up. FPV drones is good as a disposable weapon, but don't expect it to produce results unless you have dozens at hand at the moment and are in a area that isn't blasted by jammers and multi range AA networks.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. So if you have experience with both, how common are/were switchblades over there? I was under the impression only a tiny number got sent.
                Also, good luck out there anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The numbers aren't too limited, but small enough to be given to specific units. Like other people said, its primarily an assassination weapon. Its good if you want to deal with a specific target with ease and be flexible with how you're able to maneuver.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you're not

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Problem I'd that it costs several times more than AP-FPV drones Ukraine employs. Yeah, if USA made Switchblade 300 for 2-3k $ it would be great asset in the war, not at current cost that has token benefit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who're these fellers
      some sorta telegram intel slavoids

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just some dudes having lunch

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        innocent donbass children on their way to school

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >right inna benis
      >priceless

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are we entering peak spamming hours? A few of these low-quality have been popping up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      peak spamming time is 6am india time, rn its 5:43. Sometimes they do start early though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anti-MIC posts are not pro-russia posts, moron.

      >overpriced
      nta
      I can't believe there are people on /k/ that still don't understand how the American military works.
      People have been shocked by the levels of graft that have gutted the Russian Army and made it the laughing stock we see today.
      Well, America has a similar (but different) problem itself.
      Military equipment is supplied at overinflated prices, so that tax payers money can go to private companies and individuals. It's that simple.
      Does anyone really believe a switchblade is worth $58,000? No. Of course not. But, if it were ever called into question, they would sight 'R&D' costs etc to justify it.
      If, however, a war were to break out, and Americas entire survival depended on the supply of switchblades, suddenly the price would drop to a realistic level. This is the same for ALL American equipment.
      So. Why is it a problem? It's a problem because despite ploughing enormous amounts of money into the military, America could achieve the same with 1/4 of the money (if they were honest).

      It's likely less than a 1/4. I'm familiar with the level of graft that aerospace contracts involve and it's ridiculous: they pay 4 people to watch while one guy does the work.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$50,000, 10km
    Proof?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shaheeds, no contest

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ukraine's own shasneed clone Lyutyy mogs it

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ain't the switchblade able to just tab on the target on screen and it would fly itself there?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the switchblade isn't manually piloted the way an FPV is. The operator selects a target and presses the "kill this guy" button and the drone will do the rest.

      >1000 dollar drone
      Where did this meme came from? And no, thise drones can't really assasinate people all that well. Especially in a contested area where EW and full of enemy troops.

      >Where did this meme came from?
      From...the war? FPV drones are not expensive. You can buy a prebuilt 5 inch 6S lipo drone for $600 right now.

      >EW
      On that matter nobody here has any idea how switchblades perform in EW heavy environments unless we have some DoD guys lurking.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >From...the war? FPV drones are not expensive. You can buy a prebuilt 5 inch 6S lipo drone for $600 right now.
        Until they get swatted out of the sky and you had to buy multiple. Which will become more and more expensive unless you have a mass production line. Aside from that, those drones aren't accurate and good at assassinations. Not only that, they are also slow, which means they are easy to shoot down. FPV drones are only good if you don't care about assasination and are trying to destroy a group rather than an individual.
        >On that matter nobody here has any idea how switchblades perform in EW heavy environments unless we have some DoD guys lurking.
        As far as I know, every military drones are made to be resistant against electronic warfare attacks. Commerical drones are fine and dandy until it gets fricked by basic EW along with it having a high risk of failure.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Until they get swatted out of the sky and you had to buy multiple
          Googling it the cost of a Switchblade is $58,000. That's for the datalink, launcher, and the munition. I can buy a complete FPV drone package for $1200 right now and that's all higher end stuff. Like I said, the drone itself for $600.
          So that's 48 complete FPV packages for 1 switchblade. Or 96 drones for 1 switchblade package.

          >Aside from that, those drones aren't accurate and good at assassinations
          They are as accurate as the user. You're just talking out of your ass here honestly. There's nothing that makes them inherently bad at hitting individual targets.

          >slow
          A stock DJI FPV drone can do 100mph without much of an issue. A switchblade isn't going to be moving any faster than that unless it's in an attack dive.

          >As far as I know, every military drones are made to be resistant against electronic warfare attacks.
          This is just speculation but yeah I will agree that FPVs are vulnerable to EW because they're using off the shelf hardware. We just don't know how "hardened" switchblades really are at all so it doesn't make sense to automatically say they're better.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So that's 48 complete FPV packages for 1 switchblade. Or 96 drones for 1 switchblade package.
            Thats if you're able to utilize them in working conditions without them bricking up or even getting damaged from small things
            >They are as accurate as the user. You're just talking out of your ass here honestly. There's nothing that makes them inherently bad at hitting individual targets.
            No, they aren't. Depending on the users skill, those drones aren't really accurate and often times have poor specs when it comes to controls/cameras
            >A stock DJI FPV drone can do 100mph without much of an issue. A switchblade isn't going to be moving any faster than that unless it's in an attack dive.
            Thats if they managed to reach to that point without crashing. Ukrainians and russians both reported that they lose thousands of drones on a weekly bases. Primarily due to EW/getting shot down by AA.
            >This is just speculation but yeah I will agree that FPVs are vulnerable to EW because they're using off the shelf hardware. We just don't know how "hardened" switchblades really are at all so it doesn't make sense to automatically say they're better.
            This ain't speculation. Literally military drones from small to big are made to be resistant towards EW attacks. Its one of the main criterias for it to be utilized in the military.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >military drones are made to be resistant against electronic warfare attacks
          dude, this drone was developed in the 00s for the gwot. its an almost 20 year old design.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dude, this drone was developed in the 00s for the gwot. its an almost 20 year old design
            >what is modernization
            Drones can be modernized.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah, when the political decision for it has been made, when the bidding process is decided after several companies have competed for it for years, a dedicated budget is finally set up and the work is actually done and the drone redelivered to the troops.

              that can easily mean 7-10 years. and then its outdated already because the tech has changed in the meantime.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just because it was made during that time doesn't mean the military didn't put specs that made it resistant to EW. The military were already aware of drone warfare since the late 2000s.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >resistant against electronic warfare attacks
          There are hard physical limits to what you can do with an emitter of a given size and power consumption

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, switchblades 300 are trash, ukrainians themselves said that I remember. Switchblade 600 is better but still overpriced

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They said it was trash against groups, which isn't what switch blade was made for.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They said the weapon itself is not bad. Their big issue was the payload, which is too small to deal with large crowds. Switch blade 600 is primarily an anti vehicle drone.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >overpriced
            nta
            I can't believe there are people on /k/ that still don't understand how the American military works.
            People have been shocked by the levels of graft that have gutted the Russian Army and made it the laughing stock we see today.
            Well, America has a similar (but different) problem itself.
            Military equipment is supplied at overinflated prices, so that tax payers money can go to private companies and individuals. It's that simple.
            Does anyone really believe a switchblade is worth $58,000? No. Of course not. But, if it were ever called into question, they would sight 'R&D' costs etc to justify it.
            If, however, a war were to break out, and Americas entire survival depended on the supply of switchblades, suddenly the price would drop to a realistic level. This is the same for ALL American equipment.
            So. Why is it a problem? It's a problem because despite ploughing enormous amounts of money into the military, America could achieve the same with 1/4 of the money (if they were honest).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Until they get swatted out of the sky and you had to buy multiple

          Yay! Anon discovered that war is expensive. We are very proud of you. Congradulations.

          4 missions. That's on average how long a non-suicide drone lasts in Ukraine before something takes it out. Or at least that was the average last summer.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every single light suicide drone got mogged by the Ukrainian quadcopters but you just know the DoD will just give Raytheon their gibs for the next over complicated embarrassment.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$500 drone
    is a bad business

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no shit, it's like a 15 year old design and drone tech has gotten way better over the last decade. even the use case is basically outdated at this point.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you look at any footage right now you can see tons of FPV being used deliberately, and I'm not talking about the FPV compilations but also infantry assault, FPVs are just more common and pratical

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    58.000 or 1Million makes no difference in America since America prints infinite money and is infinitely rich unlike all other countries.
    The whole point of the MIC is to create money and pump it into private hands of trillionaires.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >w-we never overhyped terminators, t-90s and armatas (never showed up)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > if you shoot at it enough its hp bar will eventually end
      just like in my vidya!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's weird how quiet /k/ has been on the Armata just getting straight-up cancelled
      if a western country cancelled its future MBT to end all MBTs there would be constant threads of people laughting at it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's weird how quiet /k/ has been on the Armata just getting straight-up cancelled
        Laughing at Armata was old 5 years ago

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Imagine actually making this shit, acting like they destroyed thousands of those tanks. God i hate russians

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who's even hyped them? I've never heard them even mentioned beyond them being given and then people complaining nobody says anything about them.

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