There is no way any soldier is going to carry this LMG with 100 rounds at all times, it is heavier than the SAW. Regardless, making this gun in .408 cheytac makes more sense.
>.408 cheytac can hit and kill better out to 2500 yards
>.408 cheytac is a bigger bullet than .277 fury, which means it will kill faster
>.408 cheytac requires less cost to produce than .277 fury
>.408 cheytac has a higher ballistic coefficient than .277
>.408 cheytac fmj is naturally armor piercing and can destroy a car engine
>.408 cheytac weighs 400grains while .277 fury weighs 135 grains
>You can make a bare bones lightweight cheytac LMG but not a lightweight .277 fury LMG due to the overpressured casing requiring more metal reinforcement
>.408 cheytac can kill easy out to 2500 yards
>cheytac has very little drop compared to fury and farther range which is perfect for combat in valleys and mountains and deserts
>cheytac can disable a engine block is less than 3 rounds
The weigh is heavy with the fury and carrying 200 rounds on their back and 100 on their LMG, have you seen the recoil on the xm250? goodluck shooting that accurately for bursts.
It would be overall better to carry a 50 round .408 cheytac LMG with 100 rounds extra, 50 on the LMG soldier and or 50 more on his battle buddy, the cheytac naturally has less recoil than the fury due to no overpressured rounds which will allow for more accurate follow up shots, including the high precision of .408 cheytac and the high ballistic coefficient, it would be much easier to use and with how heavy the bullet is would make it perfect for suppresive fire on vehicles and walls and homes
Sneed
>Lets replace the ammo with some unholy fudd abomination that is bigger and heavier
a barebones stock 50 round .408 cheytac LMG which overall weighs less than a 200 round belt fed xm250 is clearly the winner. Adding to the fact that xm250 is not meant for suppressive fire due to how horrible the recoil is from a +++P overpressured round makes it even worse and the barrel life is abysmal.
The cheytac option is better for suppressive fire due to overall less recoil from non over pressured ammo and the higher ballistic coefficient and the heavier weighted armor piercing properties and the extended barrel life
>overall less recoil from non over pressured ammo
t. I don't understand physics
suppressive fire ignores recoil
Said nobody ever. Not only are you asking for a heavier round with more recoil, you're also advocating for even less capacity for the suppressive fire role than .277.
You're legit retarded.
>it is heavier than the SAW
it literally isn't you schizophrenic wreck, you even screenshotted something to prove it isn't heavier, even with 100 rounds
>SAW with 200 rounds 556 + 1lb bipod
10.45 kg
>SAW with 100 rounds 556 + 1b bipod
9.2 kg
>XM250 with 100 rounds 68 + built in bipod
9 kg (less than either options despite heavier ammo)
the rest of the asinine claims in your post should be ignored based purely on the low quality of the lie that bore them
>how horrible the recoil is from a +++P overpressured round makes it even worse
>and the barrel life is abysmal.
>Moar boolits == moar dakka == moar suppression.
>you're giving the AR MG like capabilities
confirmed for youtuber-suckling retard who didn't follow the program's development at all
don't post ever again
Yes they will because the army will use stainless steel cases which are lighter. I saw them.
they're making one of those in 300 NM so you aren't far off
Why not use .416? Army already uses it for sniper rifles anyway and it performs better than .408.
What did he mean by this?
>1 pound lighter
>100 less rounds
That's what he means by that.
Ok, well let's compare it to a system with a more similar ballistics capability then
Dipshit, it's intended to replace the SAW for automatic rifleman, not 240's for dedicated MG teams.
Dipshit, the whole reason why the US uses both the M249 and M240 at the same time is due to weight limitations of the 240 making it less ideal for assault and fast moving combat roles. There's obviously a difference between 5.56 and 7.62 in terms of ballistics capability, 7.62 has a longer effective range and more stopping power and better at suppression. But in the past you would need a lighter lmg for easy squad level maneuvering, which is only available in 5.56. So here comes the XM250, with the capabilities of the 240 but the weight comparable to the 249. Why wouldn't the army adopt the lmg that solves this issue?
The whole round count debate is apples to oranges because 5.56 is not comparable to 7.62 or .277 for the reasons listed above.
This is an actual retard normie take on machineguns. Moar boolits == moar dakka == moar suppression. Simple as.
>M249: 200 rounds
>M240: 50-100 round starter belt
You also need an MG team to run a 240. The whole point of the 249 is that you're giving the AR MG like capabilities but in a one man show type package.
>Moar boolits == moar dakka == moar suppression
Except when your boolits are no longer effective at the ranges you're trying to suppress them at, in which case suppression capability falls off a cliff.
This isn't theoretical, there are plenty of cases in Afghanistan where US soldiers were being outranged by towelheads using PKMs. Now imagine that capability gap with a near-peer where the enemy is actually professionally trained and you can't just call in an airstrike or artillery to solve a problem when they have their own air assets in play. 5.56 has always been considered underpowered for the role its supposed to play for MG support.
>Right in front of you - 400 meters
>Average 50 - 150 meters
This has been the norm of gunfighting since guns started to be rifled. It is not changing anytime soon if ever. Both of you retards fell for the MIC propaganda. You are far better off with your AR having a 200 round nutsack than 100. Simple as.
>muh Afghanistan gayry
Taliban were ambushing with RPG's and fucking DshK's. Maybe the solution isn't to completely fuck up the standard fighting doctrine of infantry since WW fucking I and instead it might've been smarter to not patrol in the same direction for hours on end and then be surprised when you lose an entire fireteam to a fucking IED.
I don't care about your asstarded opinions, do not (you) me
you cannot write a coherent OP without lying within the first sentence, it isn't anyone's job to creatively reinterpret your brainrot into a coherent argument, so delete the thread and try again or just fuck off
ideally the latter: there are already enough mentally ill people who know things about guns to argue with over NGSW, no one needs to argue with mentally ill people who are fucking clueless too, topic's full to the brim of autists and you are far too late to the party if this is the best you can do
procurement delenda est
This is the most gay thing I have read in a while, I'm not even OP on top of it.
I don't care, have a nice day
no u
>Maybe the solution isn't to completely fuck up the standard fighting doctrine of infantry since WW fucking I
We fucked up walking fire? Oh wait, no, you're just a DKE retard.
>attacking, defending, strongpoint defenses, raiding/infiltrating, combined arms, fire and maneuver, etc
All developed and largely fleshed out during WWI and to a degree in the interwar period. But you can continue to stay up top on mount stupid for all I care anon. You clearly have a normie take on this shit and lack the actual understanding of what is actually being referred to or said. Virtually every aspect of small unit tactics was developed and refined in that time period that is still in use to this day. But I'm sure you view it as
>big wave attack across field towards enemies and nothing else
>DKE
Whatever the fuck that even means.
>M240 exists
>M2 exists
>MG3 exists
>PKM exists
>somehow need more
hello MIC stockholder
It weighs less than an M249 even with a suppressor and current issue optics.
You legit didn't even do a google search man
It weighs 21.22lbs with a bipod and 100 rounds, the optic has to weigh more than 2 or 3 pounds, there is no way the optic weighs .78lbs
>400grains
didn't know about this one retarded imperial measurement thank you
>the m250 is too heavy
>lets adopt something even heavier then
Bruh
How do you do, fellow ArmA 3 enjoyer. I too am a .408 chuytac stan.
Wtf happened to the people that developed the M16 and 5.56?
Why is military small arms development absolutely retarded now?
how is a machine gunner going to be engaging targets at 2500 yards?
With the power of Jesus Christ
With mortars from another unit
Tripods extend the effective range of a GPMG to over a kilometer