3DP - no hands edition

I want to try and push the limit of “how many 3d printed parts can I use in a build” as an experiment.
I am impressed by the FGC9 but I have two main complaints about it:
> too bulky to be used as a CCW
> uses 9mm, hard to find for yuropoors

My goal being to arm as many europoors with as little tooling as possible (aka a 3D printer, basic hand tools and an ECM rifling setup), I’m starting to fiddle around with a design of a more compact autoloader chambered in .22LR. I will steal 90% of my design from a glock pattern since it’s very widespread
>NB4 it lacks powwaaa
yuropoors are leaner and a random Ngubu attacking Hanz will not be fat enough to stop a 22
>NB4 eeww glock
the future is now old man.
go larp as a WW2 soldier somewhere else. The “right answer” of a functional setup is a glock 19 and an AR15, anything else is cringe larp tier.
>NB4 infringing on the copyright of the glock 44is a crime
fuck copyright

I want to limit the amounts of machines used. Simple metal parts that are 2.5D can be made with simple hand tools but others like barrel and slide are machined out of aluminium and steel. I want a random Londoner to be able to build this quickly in his appartment, so CNC machining is out of the question.

For this specific application (slide / upper assembly) would carbon nylon (NylonX or other) be a good substitute for aluminium?
I’m thinking just the slide since other critical parts have already been done

  1. 4 weeks ago
    BigC

    nice larp thread

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >larping as a random guy with an idea who has questions as to the technical possibilities of this idea

      I dont think you know what LARP means

      • 4 weeks ago
        BigC

        if you have questions you already aren't capable, competent and capable people don't ask such basic questions, they do research and learn for themselves the answers to such basic questions
        you are fucking retarded and wont get anywhere

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Normally, I'd call you a dick for this kind of response to someone with questions, but given the OP, you're bang on.

          you will have 10x more issues before you even get close to the "onyx to bullet explosions" point.Just fucking try designing.

          When you get to the point where that becomes an issue you will know enough that you won't ask questions and fix it yourself.

          >you will have 10x more issues before you even get close to the "onyx to bullet explosions" point.Just fucking try designing.
          This is correct. OP, have you even gotten to the stage were you've printed an FGC9?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, he's always a giant steaming pile of excrement in any 3D printing thread.

            He apparently thinks that owning a lathe makes him speshul.

            • 3 weeks ago
              BigC

              you sound asspained, you don't seem to have any sort of argument either

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All you try to do is start drama, please leave.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                you seem to wanna start drama by saying i'm an asshole in these threads?
                i am right, the posts in the beginning of this thread are right and you are dumb and wrong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just don't respond to it, it gets pissy, posts furry shit then fucks off for several months.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >then fucks off for several months.
                this has literally never happened
                i have been here non stop for like 15 years

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How come you changed your name to take out the explicit furry reference.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                According to another poster, he used a bot and got his trip banned. However, this theory is not accepted by everyone in the Crummian History Community. Some scholars believe he did this on his own accord and that sooner or later he'll find a new peculiar trip.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                try making your name mrcrummy and find out
                go ahead, try it

                https://i.imgur.com/ODVEq6i.jpg

                yes yes, i know, i'm an oldfag and you're an election tourist, we know

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you're a gay furry ?

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                is that what your mom said?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're such a low effort drama queen, plenty of your kind on furry twitter.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >plenty of your kind on furry twitter.
                i wouldn't know, but apparently you're from there so maybe you should go back

                That doesn't actually make much sense in response to a question. It's like you expected me to phrase it as a statement and couldn't adapt.

                >UHM ACKTSHUALLY
                nobody cares bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Attentionwhore

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                yet here you are, replying to me
                like i said, go back to twitter, you seem to know exactly what it consists of, really weird if you ask me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody cares bro
                It's wierd you'd use the implied plural when you're alone. You're really bad at this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't actually make much sense in response to a question. It's like you expected me to phrase it as a statement and couldn't adapt.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't you that gay furry.

      • 4 weeks ago
        BigC

        no, im your daddy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Vogal

      Oh hey the other gay furry. Whatsup bro

      • 3 weeks ago
        BigC

        based?
        welding up a roof rack for my truck

        another thread ruined by tripfags. Why is this allowed?

        you don't seem to understand how the internet works

        • 3 weeks ago
          Vogal

          Sweet, I put one in my sprinter not too long ago.

          Don't give it attention, he brings shame to the furry hobby, all he does on here is trying to prove drama and arguments for his own sexual pleasure.

          Good for him. It's PrepHole arguing with people.over meaningless shit is the point.

          • 3 weeks ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] Acbn

            >he brings shame to the furry hobby
            bro there is nothing but shame in the furry hobby lol
            is this fucking ironic, i can't even tell
            [...]
            >sprinter
            ok now this is fuckin based

            Yiff in hell

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't give it attention, he brings shame to the furry hobby, all he does on here is trying to prove drama and arguments for his own sexual pleasure.

        • 3 weeks ago
          BigC

          >he brings shame to the furry hobby
          bro there is nothing but shame in the furry hobby lol
          is this fucking ironic, i can't even tell

          Sweet, I put one in my sprinter not too long ago.

          [...]
          Good for him. It's PrepHole arguing with people.over meaningless shit is the point.

          >sprinter
          ok now this is fuckin based

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My eyes are watering from the intense glow

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > everyone is a glowie

      if you have questions you already aren't capable, competent and capable people don't ask such basic questions, they do research and learn for themselves the answers to such basic questions
      you are fucking retarded and wont get anywhere

      >do your own research but dont ask questions
      ah yes because knowing the strenght of Onyx to bullet explosions is common knowledge

      • 4 weeks ago
        BigC

        bro you are so fucking stupid it's not even funny
        this is what happens when people grow up playing video games and don't actually use their hands for anything
        fucking pathetic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you will have 10x more issues before you even get close to the "onyx to bullet explosions" point.Just fucking try designing.

        When you get to the point where that becomes an issue you will know enough that you won't ask questions and fix it yourself.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fuck off glowie
    use abs
    you only need 7 metal parts you just nee to figure I out yourself.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >use abs
      >not using cf/gf nylon.
      You need an enclosure for abs ander almost any circumstance.
      Nylon can be had at a higher price but makes a far more reliable part. And only requires a heated bed to 80c, an abrasion resistant nozzle and some fine tuning. All enders go up to 260C on the nozzle. Thats like baseline temp for most nylons to print strong and reliably.
      Oh and dont forget tochange the bowden tube if you can afford it. You dont want brain damage from ptfe fumes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah for abs needs a clean room and heated environment. you can work out defects by burying the part in sand and heating in the oven untill it is sintered together and binds layers better.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To nobody's surprise you can make low pressure cartridges from polymer.

    • 4 weeks ago
      BigC

      there's something missing from this post.....
      something very very important

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What exactly is stopping the steel bottom here from flying backwards when it explodes inside?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The breach face. Same thing that stops the brass from flying backwards. The brass has practically no strength compared to the pressure inside guns, the strength comes from the chamber walls and lockup.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is that, 12 ga? Is it full caliber?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it is .577 snider, which, at least for me, was more like .600 caliber.
        So it's closest to 24 gauge. It is full caliber, though.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My 2 cents:

    Why would getting .22 be easier than getting 9mm in yurop? Both are very common and both require a license to get in all euro countries (afaIk). You could reasonably produce 9mm or .380 ammo yourself (see the DD guide for 9mm, .380 has been produced by converting blank cartridges) but you're not going to make your own .22s.

    Second, making a barrel is not that hard (check out the FGC9 guide).

    The part that would be the most difficult in your build is probably going to be the slide. All the semi-auto guns that are DIY (not using kits) are PCCs, and for a good reason. I haven't seen anyone come up with a good pistol design yet, because it's much harder to do than a PCC. You need to have a well designed slide that is able to contain the pressure of a cartridge.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      22 can get with hunting license
      9mil usually requires a grade above like type B sports

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Might vary by country then, in my country all ammo is equally hard to get. It doesn't matter if it's .22 or .50 cal.

        why would the slide need to be that strong? The area containing the blast is the chamber, which has successfully been made out of plastic for 22

        Sure, that is an advantage of using .22. If you used 9mm, you would need to somehow machine a slide out of steel (or come up with a different solution). But .22 is very forgiving.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wouldn't 12 gauge shells be easier to source?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            12ga is not as easily concealable and unusable in a handgun

            Euros have access to rifles, that's not really the problem. Handguns on the other hand tend to be restricted except maybe in the Chezch Republic.

            From what I know at least in France 22 is readily available even with just a hunting license, and it's dirt cheap

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would the slide need to be that strong? The area containing the blast is the chamber, which has successfully been made out of plastic for 22

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        partly*
        the actual chamber here is stock you retard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would add that getting past the slide limitation is important since we are increasingly facing threats of kits and other non-serialized parts being banned here in the US.
      When 80% will be banned and the easy access to parts with them, we will be fucked in the ass. What we can make for Yuros now might save us down the line.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would getting .22 be easier than getting 9mm in yurop?
      I think he's planning to make .22 from nailgun blanks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not really no.
        EU guidelines specify that EU B class ammunition has to have the same restriction as B class firearms. This includes most handgun rounds except 22lr.
        Also 22lr is a lot less powerful than 9mm meaning we can get away with less bulky designs.
        making 22lr would be delusional, 9mm is much easier to make.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >uses 9mm, hard to find for yuropoors
          ??

          >EU guidelines
          Does any country outside of Germany even use those? In Sweden they got told to fuck off with that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are .22 nail gun blanks that I have seen converted into .22 cartridges, usually by gluing a .22 pellet onto the top of it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >glued
        I don't think that will chamber/cycle reliably, if at all

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My understanding is these are used mostly in single shot Derringer and zip guns.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also you need AR fire control group which may be regulated in some countries or just expensive/hard to find.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, you can print those these days too.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there are handgun versions that are not too bulky made using a 3d printer.
    if you try to engineer some part yourself you might get to use the same system used for the musket that killed shizo abe,
    i ve seen a pump action shotgun made using that which used diy ammo.
    9mm is also bigger so it will be easier to test out without having a lot of time between sets

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not the idea, if yuropoors are going to use janky setups like the one you describe they might as well use blackpowder firearms which are available OTC.
      the goal here is to produce a modern firearm with a readily available cartridge for yuropoor / dystopian future USA setup where 80% no longer exist and parts kits are banned / subject to legislation

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the stuff used for fireworks and those for the booms which are legal for 18+ people contain smokeless powder which can be separated and used in a 9mm.
        you can cast the bullet and for machine(even on a homemade lathe) the cartdrige.
        you could engineer your own firing system like a small battery used to give energy to a piece of copper which activates the rest.
        with simple hand tool you could get a good firearms it would just take time.
        to make a shitty homemade lathe you could literaly take a drill and use some wood furniture to move it around.
        its possible but it takes time.
        you re probabily better with the ol design that are made of scraps.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My thinking was more along the lines of a WW1 trench gun. Not exactly modern but lethal enough across an average street and probably a lot less sensitive to low quality ammunition.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, not super concealable.
          Quality 3d-printed carbines exist, compact autoloaders is a hurdle for the 3DP gun community.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go with something like the historical Robinson pistol.
            Open bolt and blowback, with a long slide travel.
            The slide is just there for weight. The barrel floats slightly in the action to reduce recoil force. As simple as you can get at a base concept level. The 'rotating barrel' idea can be dropped as it probably never did anything in the first place. Making it easier to make.
            https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/Robinson_SR-11

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, you can probably make everything except the bolt and barrel with a 3D printer, the bolt could probably be aluminum and the barrel could be whatever (might not be too concerned with rifling). Just use a stiff enough spring to mitigate recoil instead of relying on bolt weight. Also you might as well make it open bolt, since the design is simpler and is a must have for a machine gun (in for a penny, in for a pound).

    You should look into the 10/22 receiver files while you're at it. You may not want to deal with the fuckery associated with a slide and go more for a Mac 10/11 approach at first so that you can get a feel for what's right, plus I think you could scale that down to 22 pretty well

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      10/22 is god tier bubba-able

      https://i.imgur.com/FM1lO6F.jpg

      I want to try and push the limit of “how many 3d printed parts can I use in a build” as an experiment.
      I am impressed by the FGC9 but I have two main complaints about it:
      > too bulky to be used as a CCW
      > uses 9mm, hard to find for yuropoors

      My goal being to arm as many europoors with as little tooling as possible (aka a 3D printer, basic hand tools and an ECM rifling setup), I’m starting to fiddle around with a design of a more compact autoloader chambered in .22LR. I will steal 90% of my design from a glock pattern since it’s very widespread
      >NB4 it lacks powwaaa
      yuropoors are leaner and a random Ngubu attacking Hanz will not be fat enough to stop a 22
      >NB4 eeww glock
      the future is now old man.
      go larp as a WW2 soldier somewhere else. The “right answer” of a functional setup is a glock 19 and an AR15, anything else is cringe larp tier.
      >NB4 infringing on the copyright of the glock 44is a crime
      fuck copyright

      I want to limit the amounts of machines used. Simple metal parts that are 2.5D can be made with simple hand tools but others like barrel and slide are machined out of aluminium and steel. I want a random Londoner to be able to build this quickly in his appartment, so CNC machining is out of the question.

      For this specific application (slide / upper assembly) would carbon nylon (NylonX or other) be a good substitute for aluminium?
      I’m thinking just the slide since other critical parts have already been done

      some guy sorta made it but used milled parts in the most stress-prone areas

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah you could bullpup-ize the 10/22 to turn it into a spooky little handgun

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually, anons, once I get off work I think I'll start on making a rifle that uses airgun pellets and the rimfire caps for a nail gun. It'd require a double magazine setup, but I think it'd be a better approach than trying to solve the ammo issue since they carry those .50 caliber caps pretty much anywhere and the regulation should be more lax. Semi auto at the very least is a must, of course.

      My general idea is to have a magazine that holds ~10 caps and a second one located slightly forward of it. The cap chambers and fires, pushing the .22/.177 pellet down the barrel and into the rifling. Biggest issue would probably be the pressure that the pellet magazine would have to endure, I think. Plus the pressure would be pretty high because of the barrel necking down from a .50 to a .22/.177, it might just blast the pellet mag out of the bottom or cause it to explode. Either way, I'd love to hear opinions on this idea

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I think I'll start on making a rifle that uses airgun pellets and the rimfire caps for a nail gun
        Would genuinely love to follow the project to see how you can pull this off reliably. There's been some anons in the past who tried to do this (there's maus etc on the top of my head) but i haven't heard anything from them ever since

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Makes me think of those co2 pellet guns that use a cylinder magazine and then maybe use a regular .22lr magazine for the charges.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >glock 19
    you swallow, dont you?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They took the thread down last time I posted this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Name? Gonna print something this week.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gambino 22lr v1.7

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      built this but the recommended spring (0.7mm) set is too weak while with a 1mm spring i can't even really cock it
      what to do?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >9mm
    >hard to find for yuropoors
    literally the only caliber that's still available

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you live in France, Italy or Germany (aka 80% of the EU) then 9mm falls as a class B ammunition, requiring a class B license. This also means that you can only purchase 9mm if you own a registered 9mm weapon and you can only buy 2000 rounds per annum.
      Such license is harder to get than a class C or a hunting permit, with which 22LR is readily available with no limitations.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Italy
        here you can own a massimum of 200 round of pistol ammo.
        but you can buy as much as you want once you dont have 200.
        italy is different than france.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how do you buy reloading gear and coomponents in Italy? in the north, near firenze?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            order from austria. primers won't be shipped tho and powder is restricted

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              is there a country that doesnt restrict parts like slides and barrels?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well, the USA 😛
                european law is unified now and all pressure bearing and other essential parts are restricted
                barrels aren't that much of an issue because of ECM

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what's the process to get primers and powder there?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                for primers, when they weren't sold out, you just went to the shops
                for powder you'll have to follow the But What About Ammo guide

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Reloading gear is unregulated in italy beside the gunpowder.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not how this works at all.
        Getting .22 ammo is just as difficult as getting 9mm in Germany.
        If anything getting 9mm is easier since you can reload them yourself

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In some places its easier to come by some ammo than others, and it's not wrong to say that .22 is less regulated in some places. In others, .380 is more available due to 'military caliber' restrictions. Some guy was making a .380 full DIY carbine due to this reason. Laws are a mess and you have to work around what's available locally. That's why it's important to get a variety of designs online.

          But in most cases, even the euros who are doing the gun printing over there tell you that the most practical method of obtaining ammo is crime. Know a guy who knows a guy who's willing to sell off some of his legal ammo. Steal it from somebody. Buy it off the shady serb.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Laws are a mess and you have to work around what's available local
            I agree with that
            >In others, .380 is more available due to 'military caliber' restrictions
            The only country I can think of is India. Even Italy doesn't have caliber restrictions anymore, if I'm not mistaken. I'm interested in knowing where this guy may be from.
            I want to emphasize that I stand 100 percent with diy guns, but even the most cucked Countries in Europe like the UK have relatively straightforward and easy ways to legally obtain ammo in calibers such as 9mm, .223 or .308

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What about .38spl? I have a project in mind.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Should be relatively available. I don't think the caliber makes much of a difference.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cool. I'm going to try to make a super easy to DIY bolt for it that will still withstand the stress of being locked.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shows how little you know, in italy 22lr and 9mm fall into the same category and you can only buy 200 alltogether each visit to the store.
        Stop reading shit some eurokrats dreamed up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This also means that you can only purchase 9mm if you own a registered 9mm weapon and you can only buy 2000 rounds per annum.
        Complete bullshit. t. Anon living in one of those three countries.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .22lr or .25acp are your best bets. I'm not saying you want to copy the design but strictly speaking the Zip22 had a polymer bolt.

    You could make a much heavier bolt out of plastic if you make the bolt itself a lot bigger than what was in the zip22. Using a classic rifle form factor. I dont have the numbers on hand but I did some calculations and a solid plastic bolt the same weight/mass as the slide on a colt vest pocket is totally doable if I remember right.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I’m starting to fiddle around with a design of a more compact autoloader chambered in .22LR. I will steal 90% of my design from a glock pattern since it’s very widespread
    Unlike the FGC this would actually have significant implications for Europeans. The FGC can’t exactly be carried on your person every day, but a compact semi auto .22 is simultaneously many times better than a knife and something that realistically can be made with largely 3D-printed components.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >semi auto .22
      a dagger will hurt way more than your .22 lr.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A single .22 to the head is instantly lethal, 22 is one of, if not the, most commonly used caliber in homicides.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i pretty much know how to do for powder, gun parts, and priming but what about the scope and lens?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scopes are unregulated in most countries.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Follow Suckboytony on twitter and you will find out.
    Try to find a pepperbox revolver and make some zip ammo using nail gun blanks.
    And the state of the art in the AR15 is every thing but the bolt and the barrel and gas tube 3dprinted.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just have a basement which you can take away noise and take time to build an homemade lathe.
      than you re setuo for the rest

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why make a homemade lathe? if you are going to use a lathe just buy a used or a small chink one. and you can use a drill press as an improvised lathe and they go for 600 bananas it should be close to 120 to 180 maple Leafs. or 100 burguer wrappers.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't cut sideways with a drill press, you'll damage it. They are not rigid enough for that sort of work.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't turn the drill press sideways, you set up the workpiece vertically

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can, you aren't doing this for work or for a living you are making one gun and pronto.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You'll still need to do a fair amount of hand fitting with a file set if you do it that way. Using a drill press like that won't give you precise tolerances.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and if you are going to do metal working a 3dprinter is a giant tool to make dies and fingers for bending for cheap

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off tony, I'll follow your twitter only if you share the files

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i dont think its that bulky but its ofcourse not concealable like a handgun

    why would 9mm be hard to find in eu? its not different from any other caliber

    I also wish i would be in 22lr
    but I think jstark mention somewhere the reasoning for 9mm but i forget

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      as a european I can confirm that getting 22 LR is way easier, just join any target shooting club and thats what they use. Theoretically anyone could just pocket some and go gome, but I have a loicence so whatever.
      of course ramsets can be "reactivated" as well

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sup OP. There's another Euro in your position, doing the same thing. He's working on a semi auto, slide operated .22 pistol and has posted videos of a prototype functioning. He's waiting until he finishes developing it to post the files.

    In the same vein, nearly 100% of the Ruger 10/22 can be printed now. There's a fully printed bolt in beta, the concept proven by the printed EZ22 bolt for .22 ARs. I'm working on getting a printed trigger group working. The only thing you have to get is a .22 barrel liner, an ECM'd barrel, or just yolo it with rigid brake line for a bore. But you've basically got a 100% diy autoloading firearm. The EX22 has been around for a while, but it at least the size of an AR pistol. The 10/22 can be smaller still, and that one euro is of course working on an actual pistol.

    Things are getting exciting. I'm working on a couple fully DIY concepts myself. That to me is the neatest aspect of 3D printed firearms, and the easier you can make the gun to build, the better. That's what I'm focusing on. Though, at the same time, I'm also putting together some CNC tools to make more advanced designs with sturdier materials, including CNC milled steel parts, but the idea of the as-easy-as-possible 95% printed DIY firearm will always be my favorite part. You bet your ass the moment ECM bottleneck chambers are developed, I'll be jumping on the bandwagon to develop the first autoloading 100% DIY intermediate carbine, with a focus on being as easy to produce and assemble as possible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and has posted videos of a prototype
      Do you have any?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd have to go digging through the fosscad subreddit to find it. It's there but it's like three months back. I hope the guy actually finishes it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well I did some digging to try and find it, but I couldn't scare it up.
        It's a bit far down my list of projects to do but if homie doesn't show back up with those files I'll just have to take a crack at doing one up myself.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One of the ways of building this would be to make a super-compact bullpup 10/22.
    Check out design in vid related:

    You could make is a little bit more compact by putting the trigger in front of the magazine and creating a custom magwell that doubles as a handle,(although idk if the complexity would be worth it).
    Or you just rock it like so with a compact mag so that it's flush and a 30-rounder in your pocket

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >goal being to arm as many europoors with as little tooling as possible
    Europeans want to be disarmed gays. If they wanted to be armed, they'd all be packing Muskets and crossbows and airguns and bombs, which anyone could make with unrestricted items.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which country was the inventor of the FGC-9 from?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kurdistan i believe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was Kurd but a German resident

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not really

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Have access to firearms and lethal weapons
        >Choose not to have them
        Definitional noguns gayry.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't look to bad to me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they'd all be packing Muskets and crossbows and airguns and
      But they do though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        black powder guns are completely unregulated from what I’ve read, even with a criminal record you can access one. Dunno about the ammo situation if you convert them to metal cartridge

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is this just an American mak8ng random guesses about European gun laws?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He’s sort of right though, black powder guns are unregulated in most of the EU.
            Hell, you can even get them in Sweden.
            The requirement is that it was designed before 1890 and doesn’t use gas-tight cartridges. This means that black powder revolvers are completely unregulated here.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >This means that black powder revolvers are completely unregulated here.
              It does not. It means certain antiques are allowed, this won't stop the cops from seizing them to "verify the age" which they can't always do and they will then take it to court, which ofc won't go anywhere but it's a pain to deal with.
              They do it for statistics, so they can say that they seized a gun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bought a modern replica of a model 1858 over the internet, paid in BTC and sent them a fake ID

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice, i'd want to ask which site you used but it feels like it would be unwise to share that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good choice

                You can make your own caps with priming compounds and old aluminum cans either using a purpose built cutter and die or by cutting out aluminum circles and then pressing them through a hardwood block with a chamfered hole in it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't even need to buy priming compound, mix 2/3rd ground up matches with 1/3rd shaved off red powder from the striker.
                It's corrosive as fuck but works great

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gentlemen, I think I need a library card.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cant you just find one EU country that doesn’t restrict 80% or parts like the US does and get your slide from there?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      80 percents are an American thing. Most other countries regulate the barrel more than the receiver.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Dumbass, EU laws get ignored by member countries all of the time.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > wait for railgun technology to improve to the point pocket railgun are a thing
    or
    > wait for metal 3D printing to drop in price

    >make guns in your living room with zero parts
    > ?????
    > profit

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've always said this and I'll say it again: true 3d printed weapon that ANYONE can actually make will never happen as long as said weapons are reliant on gunpowder. It's time for people to start looking into coil/railguns

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > > It's time for people to start looking into coil/railguns

      You are pretty retarded if you think thats actually a viable option. The power storage alone to run such a device that would put as much energy on target as a .22 is going to weigh hundreds of pounds and only be able to fire once every 10 minutes. Play less video games and read a physics book.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > > It's time for people to start looking into coil/railguns

      You are pretty retarded if you think thats actually a viable option. The power storage alone to run such a device that would put as much energy on target as a .22 is going to weigh hundreds of pounds and only be able to fire once every 10 minutes. Play less video games and read a physics book.

      The "coil" part needs to develop further first for it to be viable. There's an interview about it on YouTube from the company that developed the coilgun forgotten weapons tried out not too long ago. Might be a few years or decades.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That shit doesn't scale linearly. A magnetic coil is a magnetic coil. They've had them since the 1900's and its not going to advance any farther than it has in the last century. Believe it or not, there's hard limits on material physics that makes stuff impossible. The ENERGY STORAGE needs to advance. Storing and discharging large amounts of energy is always going to weigh a lot because even if you have just 1% of the electricity you are discharging turn into heat, its still enough to destroy rails, melt down capacitors, and vaporize contact points in circuits. So you need to add more material, which means more weight.

        Guess what? That shit doesn't scale linearly either. So now you are building a device the size of a refrigerator just to do what a couple grams of gunpowder in a barrel can, and its still reliant upon an outside power source to recharge. A process which ALSO scales in time in relation to how big your capacitor bank is. The only solutions are a more powerful (thus larger) power supply, or a longer recharge time.

        So at this point you've got about 800 pounds of equipment that costs aboit $10,000 just to accomplish what, again, a 5 cent .22 lr round in a $50 single shot rifle can do.

        It isn't "a few years or decades away." Matierial physics isn't going to magically stop working by then. They aren't going to magically figure out that you can just bang two rocks together and magically be able to store, generate, and discharge hilarious amounts of electricity without adding mass.

        I'd do another rant how assuming different fields of research will follow the same rate of development as semiconductor microchips did is totally wrong, but the depth of your knowledge is a 12 minute youtube video so it would probably be wasted.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The ENERGY STORAGE needs to advance.
          That's what i meant, or rather the capacitors i think, can't remember the name.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They've developed an ai that can invent new materials so who knows what will happen in the next few decades

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They've developed an ai that can invent new materials
            My ass can invent new materials too. It does not mean that we can meaningfully manufacture the compound/alloy/etc, just because the AI can identify a stable atomic structure

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They actually created it iirc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The "coil" part needs to develop further first for it to be viable.
        Coils are simple, some youtuber actually made a spreadsheet that just calculates the best coil for given parameters.

        See video description for links.
        What needs to be looked into is:
        >repulsion via eddy currents rather than attracting a ferromagnetic projectile
        >driving the coils using high frequency AC rather than single DC pulse
        >recuperating energy from coils back into capacitors
        >how to keep lipo batteries from spontaneously combusting

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I forgot to mention stabilizing the projectile.
          Fins are nice but unnecessarily difficult to manufacture.
          Supposedly you can make the coils oval and slightly rotate each subsequent coil to impart rotation onto the projectile same way a rifled barrel does, but I have yet to see a design that does it successfully.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why go through the trouble of 3D printing low quality firearms when you can just don't be a cuck and buy illegal guns? Illegal AK or 9mm pistol is 2-4k euro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      500-700 euro for a pistol, 2-3k if you want a glawk
      Been offered an ak for 2.5k but if you are close to the right people, deep, you can get them for 500-1000.
      Double barrel shotguns 300
      Grenades 50
      Is what ive heard over the years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on where you live I guess. In west-europe I haven't heard of a 9mm glock under 3.k for years, most of the time it's more like 4-5k for gen5 etc. Less desirable 9mm's might go lower but I don't think you'll find a nice one under 2k.
        I've never seen an ak under 2.4k for sale even when in bad shape. 500-700euro sounds more like balkan prices...or fantasy price?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >balkan prices
          Close, Sweden.
          Except for the ak none are from personal experience but i consider the others fairly accurate since I've heard the same from various sources that are more into that sorta stuff than i am.
          Never bought anything myself since i want to go the legal route

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        in Marseille you can find an AK for 1.5K€ approximately
        glawcks would be about 600€-800€
        only issue is if you look like a normal citizen you will be robbed before even getting to your dealer’s spot

        t. used to do data recovery for the anticriminal brigades of Marseille for a couple of years until I left this shithole

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if you look like a normal citizen you will be robbed before even getting to your dealer’s spot
          Huh, that's not the case here, there has been twice that i know of that people have tried to see how long it would take for someone with no connections to buy a gun as a journalist thing and for the journalist i think it took a few hours in a major city and for a smaller city it took some random guy about a week.
          Think it would be less likely for them to actually sell you something here if you did look shady and they didn't know you, because of all the gang conflicts, don't want to be arming your enemy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cool, where can i go in order to buy them?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can’t
        99% of dark web sites are glowie honeypots

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          exactly. or as the other poster has said, you'll get robbed if you don't look like a criminal
          meanwhile everyone can follow the instructions to build a FGC-9

          btw, what lower fits the EZ22 well and what magazines to use?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            CMMG pattern mags (there are variations for other .22 mags) and any milspec lower or custom lower for other mags. Most use DS1913 printed lowers.
            Search EZ22 on Oddysee.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have any updates on the maus?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sauce?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://discord.gg/KZp39BCb

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest problem with using 3D printed parts for high pressure, high impact, and high temperature applications is that no matter what exotic filaments you use (nylong, nylonx, etc etc) its still a thermoplastic deposited in layers. If it gets hot it will melt. If it gets impacted too many times there will be layer separation.

    Additionally, carbon fiber filaments and other such enhanced thermoplastics are a bit of a gimmick. They just make a part a little more stiff along whatever axis the layers are oriented in. The fibers are not actually binding the layers together. Its obviously a property you can exploit for increased performance in certain applications, but its not an end all solution to the drawbacks of 3D printing.

    Its also more expensive, and requires either a more expensive printer, or some pricey and potentially finnicky mods to a cheaper printer to work. My experience with exotic filaments has been that they are a big headache for an only marginal performance increase.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/zRPkMiQ.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/WrAN2nd.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/eo3MPAG.jpg

      Impressive. Very nice. Any mechanical delays or detonators?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only delay fuze i know of is the impact grenade from professor parabellum

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/SuQZ4GQ.jpg

        The only delay fuze i know of is the impact grenade from professor parabellum

        Delays fucking suck to engineer. I've been barking up that tree for years and I'm way too fucking squeamish to trust my own spolletes won't flash as soon as the primer lights. I'd much rather have a foolproof mechanical solution.

        built this but the recommended spring (0.7mm) set is too weak while with a 1mm spring i can't even really cock it
        what to do?

        Make your own spring out of music wire with the Harlot mainspring tool. It takes like three minutes.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glowmorons killed da homie JStark, bro knew too much, was too smart to let live I guess. Sad, many such cases. Glowmorons kill our leaders so we fail, ask Tupac.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't JStark had a heart condition or anything? In any case all the guys involved in the FGC-9 were pretty annoyed by people claiming he was killed by glowies. If anything being raided may contributed to heart failure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jstark had horrible health and stated numerous times that he had no intention of surviving being caught. He didn't get killed by glowies unless you count the effects of stress due to the arrest and probably him ceasing his medication.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop responding to drama and post 3d gats

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice, would post but i don't have any images.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I desperately want to know the specifics of this thing. The guy hasn't talked much about it and I NEED to know how he figured out roller delay.
        Pic tangential; mishmash parts kit belt fed x39.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Da guy is me. Been trying not to get caught up talking about it too much. The roller delay nothin too fancy, just some crudely cut rollers/bearings made from steel spacers of appropriate size to mesh into eachother. And a wedge made from mild steel flat stock. Is that one your project? I seent it posted elsewhere was curious how that works internally too lol.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not mine, but I'm pretty sure it just runs on an AK bolt, barrel and trunnion with a bunch of other shit bolted on for feed and recoil. I like your solution a lot. Are those steel blocks behind the roller recess blocks all it takes to absorb the recoil and prevent headspacing from creeping backwards? I've been wrestling with some rear-locking concepts and trying to find the best way to contain the locking components so that they don't stretch the receiver out since the trunnion is at the front of the receiver and the lock is at the rear.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The theory I was working with for those steel blocks was that the direction of the force being imparted into the bearings changes as the rollers move inward, but is largely directed into the rear portions of the bearings. So the bars are set diagonally rearward of the bearings to add some rigidity. Really what ends up happening though is the sides of the receiver flare out more than you might think initially when it recoils. This is only for like 1/500th of a second, and not necessarily intentional, but it is how the receiver absorbs the outward force the rollers impart into the bearings. That picture is a bit old, there is now a small split modeled into the receiver down the portion in front of the bolt, which allows the receiver to have more give during recoil without damaging itself.

              Also headspace is pretty much set once the bolt face is JB welded in. It can't really creep backwards since the front half of the bolt is held forward by some magnets (also to prevent bolt bounce).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Really what ends up happening though is the sides of the receiver flare out more than you might think initially when it recoils.
                Ever seen an SVT in slow motion? Thing is a pool noodle upon recoil.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I too am interested in hearing more about this if you want to share. What caliber is it? Looks like a pistol .45, 10mm?

            How does it hold up to sustained fire?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Is in 9mm, current receiver has around 70-100 rounds on it at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMq55c4H8C8&ab_channel=Nopel this here video is of the pistol brace version doing some rapid fire, from a week or two ago. The belt links were having problems unclasping unintentionally during this particular trip, but I've since fixed that issue.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bunp

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yuropoor here. I suggest you replace 22 LR with 22mag, it is often just as easy to get as 22 LR.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    another thread ruined by tripfags. Why is this allowed?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    N U T

    https://imgur.com/a/O0xFmS9

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