>337 AV-8 Harrier IIs were ever built. >110 of them were destroyed in non-combat accidents

>337 AV-8 Harrier IIs were ever built
>110 of them were destroyed in non-combat accidents
Holy fuck, is this the worst track record of literally any vehicle ever?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They've been around a while, every time you fly a plane there's a chance of an accident. That chance doesn't disappear because they're not being made any more, the produced count stays the same and the accident count only goes up.

    That said, they're hard to fly and probably had an increased accident rate compared to most aircraft.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, it's part of why the F-35B program was so important, the Marines needed a real replacement for the Harrier on the assault ships

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is a super long article from the 90s that lays it all out but I will sum it up

    >being a difficult aircraft to fly
    >ground crew and maintainers have a crazy turnover since they only do a few tours and dip rarely have more than a few years experience vs RAF/RN maintainers who are mostly career military and often have 20+ years fixing the same aircraft.
    >critically small budget thottled by the navy that doesn't allow for a lot of fixes and changes that should have happened
    >experienced pilots keep quitting and operational squadrons have few high hour harrier pilots

    This is contrasted with a Fleet Air Arm pilot who while he may be a zoomer who has just had his SHARtussy ate and has only a few hours in the harrier he can rely that his maintainers have been in the navy longer than he's been alive and that the squadron has lots of senior pilots to guide him (royal navy pilots rarely get promoted beyond Lt CMR and stay flying much longer than USN/USMC).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you and the lads will never get to sail along side a massive fucking carrier during a celebration as it returns from BTFOing some nonwhites halfway around the world and grow old knowing they're still butthurt about some desolate islands

      truly born in the wrong timeline

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        don't forget the linecrossing ceremonies and banter on the way down

        ?t=533

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >crazy turnover
      Because the AV8B is a fucking hanger queen and hard to work on, so expect 18 days and working weekends as regular, oh and you have to maintain physical fitness standards while most of your deployment areas are absolute garbage.
      >6332 Cherry Point

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Indian Mig-21s and Canadian/German F-104s easily outdo them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not at taking off and landing vertically they don't.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        actually Indian Mig-21s land vertically all the time. usually at 500 knots straight down

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Indians also operated harriers (which is probably why they keep crashing).

      actually Indian Mig-21s land vertically all the time. usually at 500 knots straight down

      kek'd

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard was some of the problem was inexperienced pilots taking off vertically, slamming from lift to forward thrust, the nozzles rotating fully and the plane hitting the deck before it had sufficient forward velocity for the wings to provide the missing lift.
    May be apochraphal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats a legit thing that can happen in a transition from hover. happened to me in DCS but I would assume not even a muhreen could be retarded enough to do it irl

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the TU-22 was worse. 300something built and 150 or more lost in accidents

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the A21/SR71s worse

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Osprey is also a aircraft with more than a few fatalities. Goes with the territory. That's why you get all the veterans preferential job placement and va benefits.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Holy fuck, is this the worst track record of literally any vehicle ever?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the craziest failure mode for the F-104 was that when used for ground attack the wings would fall off in the middle of high G low level turns due fatigue

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yet another American death trap the bongs bought like the Sherman

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