>The source says: "If 50-60,000 people are added, then we can use the same tactics to devour Bakhmut (with the condition of having a supply of ammunition)".
Bakhmut should be a icon of how Russians are fighting this fricking war.
They are trying to claim it even after they lost reason to capture it (Izium) a stupid bloodbath that won't change anything now since targets that are after that will be harder to capture that Bakhmut itself.
Going off with the scheduled tasks without reaching milestones
Yes, but that's Wagner, and Russian prison population is 439 453 at 1.11.2022
They'll add some draconian laws to increase the prison population and then keep letting Prigozhin press more of them into his blood circus.
It's not like Wagner is forcefully conscripting prisoners, AFAIK they're offering them a deal - service for pardon
I doubt that many of those 440k are desperate or psychotic enough to accept
the rest are refusing, anon is saying they can just force them to fight but mostly die. criminals are survivors, they are more likely to surrender or kill to escape
At this rate, Russia can capture 14 Ukrainian villages before they run out of prisoners. There's dozens of villages in Donbas alone. It's not a sustainable strategy.
do you really think, forcing criminals who have killed and don't want to be there, gangpressing them and putting automatic rifles in their hands, will turn out well?
it's one thing to entice them, the first 50,000 are ground into the ground, but now the rest know its a meat grinder
Anon, there were executions right before the assault on Soledar of those Wagnerites who refused to charge the positions.
If anything russians are good at, it's pressing men into being killed.
They're already scraping the equipment barrel to the point of sending people to fight with fricking mosins; unless the "second most powerful army in the world" decides to reintroduce the pike square, population is irrelevant
My man there are countries on this planet that cover the territory of a small oblast of Russia and have a larger population. Meanwhile Russia is the largest country by area.
It's a nation where most of the population is aging, skilled workers are fleeing or have fled, and women outnumbered men quite substantially. 140 million people means jack shit if you're willing to commit demographic suicide over an early 20th century style war in the modern day.
1 million men in the 18-40 age range NOPE'd the frick out of Russia when the frist mobilisation happened. A similar number or more will for the next one.
Who's going to capture Bakhmut in the end? Armed babushkas?
cool, ukraine population is 40mil
its not like russian tries to frick with some banana republic
4:1 manpower ratio plays little role when the loss ratio is like 1 ukrainian soldier per 10-20 russian.
yes, with current trend thats like 10-20 millions vatBlack folk per 1 million ukies
and ukies can mobilize more
but thats like the impossible scenario
its not like vatniks are siegeing last city in Ukraine
with current speed they would take over Ukraine in like 200-300 years
>30,000 Wagner casualties to take a town with 10,000 population
and lol Russias losses were literal quadruple-felon murderers, not college kids like the ukraines
ukraine is absolutely fricked, embarrassed and in a fricking temper-tantrum after the humiliation at soledar
Wagner's assault groups were leading the attack in Soledar using small groups to advance. This is not done by barely trained convicts. Wagner does have a mercenary fighting group of its own
>russians are getting slaughtered in hopelessly lopsided casualty ratios for a strategically irrelevant small town, b-but that means we're winning! h-haha take that nafo
That's wagner alone kek, the mobiks are also being used as meat shields. Just yesterday we had some chechens post a video talking about how mobiks near them were getting lit up by an APC
>The source says: "If 50-60,000 people are added, then we can use the same tactics to devour Bakhmut (with the condition of having a supply of ammunition)".
>Doing the same shit with Russian lives.
It's not like Russian lives are worth anything. Even Russian propagandists say that.
til the last russian
Bakhmut should be a icon of how Russians are fighting this fricking war.
They are trying to claim it even after they lost reason to capture it (Izium) a stupid bloodbath that won't change anything now since targets that are after that will be harder to capture that Bakhmut itself.
Going off with the scheduled tasks without reaching milestones
Oh what's that? You have zero proof?
people forget russia is 140mil nation. really big population.
1/3 of them are non-russians.
forget russia is 140mil nation. really big population.
Russia's total military manpower was estimated at 1,350,000 as of 2022.
Most of the males are working and needed in the economy
Like one anon said, just imagine some Russian towns only have a handful of workers to maintain the lights, rail and sewage
luckily only a few Russian towns have lights, rail and sewage
The Russians are very forward thinking.
Yes, but that's Wagner, and Russian prison population is 439 453 at 1.11.2022
They'll add some draconian laws to increase the prison population and then keep letting Prigozhin press more of them into his blood circus.
It's not like Wagner is forcefully conscripting prisoners, AFAIK they're offering them a deal - service for pardon
I doubt that many of those 440k are desperate or psychotic enough to accept
the rest are refusing, anon is saying they can just force them to fight but mostly die. criminals are survivors, they are more likely to surrender or kill to escape
At this rate, Russia can capture 14 Ukrainian villages before they run out of prisoners. There's dozens of villages in Donbas alone. It's not a sustainable strategy.
do you really think, forcing criminals who have killed and don't want to be there, gangpressing them and putting automatic rifles in their hands, will turn out well?
it's one thing to entice them, the first 50,000 are ground into the ground, but now the rest know its a meat grinder
it has all the trappings of a tragicomedy
Anon, there were executions right before the assault on Soledar of those Wagnerites who refused to charge the positions.
If anything russians are good at, it's pressing men into being killed.
Yes because they signed up to fight and got out of Russian rape prison and then refused to war
what if you drag people to the front in chains and ordered them to charge with loaded guns?
As opposed to them doing it for hundreds of years before now?
Out of the rape pan into the rape fire
They're already scraping the equipment barrel to the point of sending people to fight with fricking mosins; unless the "second most powerful army in the world" decides to reintroduce the pike square, population is irrelevant
How is Ukraine losing? Doesn't make any sense.
My man there are countries on this planet that cover the territory of a small oblast of Russia and have a larger population. Meanwhile Russia is the largest country by area.
It's a nation where most of the population is aging, skilled workers are fleeing or have fled, and women outnumbered men quite substantially. 140 million people means jack shit if you're willing to commit demographic suicide over an early 20th century style war in the modern day.
Send in the next wave.
1 million men in the 18-40 age range NOPE'd the frick out of Russia when the frist mobilisation happened. A similar number or more will for the next one.
Who's going to capture Bakhmut in the end? Armed babushkas?
Will you volunteer?
cool, ukraine population is 40mil
its not like russian tries to frick with some banana republic
4:1 manpower ratio plays little role when the loss ratio is like 1 ukrainian soldier per 10-20 russian.
yes, with current trend thats like 10-20 millions vatBlack folk per 1 million ukies
and ukies can mobilize more
but thats like the impossible scenario
its not like vatniks are siegeing last city in Ukraine
with current speed they would take over Ukraine in like 200-300 years
Russians like dying in battle
Their wet dream is to get surrounded by the enemy and then calling arty fire on themselves
This is why anyone who thought the Russians would lose is a fool. They will use as many men as it takes and NATO won't send men just equipment.
Well they aren't "winning" by any means
30,000 Wagner casualties SO FAR to FAIL TO take a town with 10,000 population. An important distinction.
>30,000 Wagner casualties to take a town with 10,000 population
and lol Russias losses were literal quadruple-felon murderers, not college kids like the ukraines
ukraine is absolutely fricked, embarrassed and in a fricking temper-tantrum after the humiliation at soledar
absolutely not true.
Wagner's assault groups were leading the attack in Soledar using small groups to advance. This is not done by barely trained convicts. Wagner does have a mercenary fighting group of its own
>russians are getting slaughtered in hopelessly lopsided casualty ratios for a strategically irrelevant small town, b-but that means we're winning! h-haha take that nafo
It actually won't be a long war if they keep this up.
That's wagner alone kek, the mobiks are also being used as meat shields. Just yesterday we had some chechens post a video talking about how mobiks near them were getting lit up by an APC