Should I get the SOCOM300-SPS, or should I get one of there 7.62 suppressors? On their website, they claim the SOCOM300-SPS was made to be ideal for subsonic ammunition. What if I want to shoot supersonic primarily? I have a SureFire WARCOMP installed on my 300 blackout upper.
Buy hux, huxwrx
I'd get a proper general 30cal anon. Well I mean, I did indeed get 30cal cans, and use them for 308 as well, but that's the choice I'd recommend for you too. Cans are a big wait and being able to use them for supers and subs across the whole range is well worth it. The only real thing is that if you know you'll mostly use it for 300bo, you can slightly bump size/weight as factors if you want. Ie, don't get something like the Hyperion, which performs very well but is very long (9.5"), overkill for 300bo and also there is lots of other stuff that performs 99% as well. Something more in the 8" range will do really well for 300bo and also be excellent for any other 30cal round and there are lots of interesting ones there.
So Enticer-L Ti, Banish 30 Gold, Q Full Nelson, Hydrogen-L, SRD762Ti would all be good picks.
Actually no, the HX-QD is quite shit for 300bo. Maybe when they get their "Flow 762k" out or whatever they will call it, but right now while they produce the best 5.56 can they haven't yet released a 30cal can with the same tech, only older ones.
I'm definitely going to get the SOCOM300-SPS. It has superior sound attenuation to the SOCOM762 RC2 when fired through the same 7.62 NATO / .308 rifle using supersonic ammunition.
Are you seriously just going with surefire "because" and then trusting their product pages. lol ok your stamp time and money
I already bought and installed their warcomp muzzle device on my 300 blackout upper.
>warcomp muzzle device
So you're making your gun louder?
The first section of the warcomp is a compensator, which is essentially a directed muzzle break, and the second section is a three prong flash hider. They're really clever with the compensator section with their gas port profiles that minimize flash. The compensator portion might make it slightly louder, but I haven't noticed any major difference.
The SPS and regular SOCOM are a trade-off between muzzle suppression and back pressure. If the SPS is designed for subsonic 300 blackout, back pressure is likely to be extreme when shooting 7.62 NATO (although possibly in line with some of the commercial cans).
If you’re primarily shooting supersonic it probably is a better idea to get a can designed for lower back pressure with 7.62 like the SOCOM or (much better) HUXWRX.
I plan on building another lower when Black Friday comes around again. I would place an H3 buffer in that one for the 300 blackout upper with a suppressor. This would also be a select fire lower that would be firing in full auto. Would that work for full auto supersonic 300 blackout with a SOCOM300-SPS? Those HUXWRX suppressors also look really cool. Are they permanently installed? I might build a 300 blackout upper with a 5-inch micro barrel with a handguard that goes over the suppressor with one of those in the future. With HUXWRX suppressor would be best for a 5-inch micro barrel, or would such a short barrel be a stupid idea? Maybe it would work for a larger caliber like 458 SOCOM, but I can't find any 458 SOCOM micro barrels.
Huxwrx is really only for supersonic...it’s gonna be loud as hell with subs...
My cgs helios qd-ti is quieter on 300 blackout subs than my nomad lt...
762RC2 is good for multi cal use and general 762 use. 300SPS is bolt use and even then has a sound signature that differs from them both. If you really want top quality top notch go with the 762RC2 Ti. That's the real bang for your buck but you probably won't put your CAN through most of the stuff it's intended for anyways so 300SPS works.
Source - Guy who test, packages, QCs, & does RMAs
Also please don't shoot anymore 5.7 through Ryder9 CANs we just laugh at your dumb ass and wonder why you thought that was a good idea.
Ryder 9 can’t handle 5.7? People shoot that outta 22 cans...
The pressure of a 5.7 wasn't designed to withstand it. It probably also didn't help the fact that the dude had not 1 not 2 hell not even 3 but 4 baffle strikes.
It's true I was there Im the 5.7 that fucks everyones day.
Wow, what a piece of shit that can must be!
I was in OP's retarded shoes about 2 years ago, i went with 762rc2 and i would have absolutely killed myself if i had gone with sps. do not buy the sps it's a mongrel dog
This is OP. I believe I'm going to go ahead and go with the SOCOM762 MINI2 in dark earth.
Mini 762 can? That’s a whole lotta fail...get a 3D printed Hyperion and be happy with your purchase
I thought I'd ask this here rather than starting a new thread. Does anyone have nay experience with the AB Little Bird (picrel) for 22LR? I have a Ruger MKIII with a bull barrel host.
I’ve got a Q suppressor on my mkIV with bull barrel and it’s dead quiet, just dumped a mag in my suburban neighborhood backyard
I own the Socom 762 RC2. No one in this thread understands what they are talking about. Buy the 300 sps you will get much better decibel reduction which is what your going for. It can handle much higher pressure rounds just know it will have more back pressure compared to the 762. Also I would go with a normal 3 prong or muzzle break as they have the labyrinth seals which will be quitter at the ear and reduce carbon locking.
I believe I'll go with the SOCOM762 MINI2. It's shorter than the SOCOM300 SPS, and I want this to be a larger PDW. I plan on shooting supersonic anyway, and SOCOM300 SPS is optimized for subsonic rounds.
Thats unfortunate but each to there own
My upper has a 7-inch barrel, and having a suppressor that adds only 6.4 inches as opposed to 7.9 inches with the SOCOM300 SPS would keep the gun more as a PDW. After the end of the muzzle device, the SOCOM762 MINI2 only adds 3.8 inches, as opposed to 5.4 inches. I want this to remain a tactical PDW on the larger size. I plan on getting an actual PDW, a P90, in the future.
I dare you to reflect on what you have said and not cringe.
Basically a larger PDW, since PDWs like the P90, MP7, and Skorpion are fairly small, especially the Skorpion. The Skorpion is basically a smaller PDW.
1.5 inches does not matter
I ordered a 7-inch upper from BCM, even though their most popular length is 9-inches. The 7-inch upper also comes with a handguard that you can't buy individually from them, the MCMR-5.
>two inches literally doesn't matter
It does when you're trying to add up length avoided. Using a barrel that's 2 inches shorter with a suppressor that's 1.5 inches shorter means I save 3.5 inches. The total length of the barrel with the suppressor comes out to be 13.4 inches, which is around three inches shorter than a typical 14.5-inch upper with a muzzle device.
I can do math too. That doesn’t change what I said. Also you said you are primarily shooting supers but opted for a 7” barrel. Great fucking choice their superchief
Don't worry, he's extremely serious door licker.
He uses his PDWs a lot while transitioning.
>extremely serious door licker.
Kek I’m assuming that was a typo but it’s accurate
>you said you are primarily shooting supers but opted for a 7” barrel. Great fucking choice their superchief
I don't see the issue. The supersonic bullets that come out of it still impact like typical rifle bullets. My 7-inch 300 blackout barrel upper firing supersonic ammo has around the same muzzle energy as a 10.5-inch 5.56 barrel upper firing M855. It might actually have more, though, due to the much greater rotational kinetic energy. Larger bullets have better performance going through shorter barrels.
>I don't see the issue.
its only you that doesn't see it.
nta, could you do 10"?
>I don't see the issue
I’m aware you don’t
>compares to M855 from a 10.5”
Ok I retract everything. This is excellent bait. Well done
I forgot to mention I will be primarily shooting with supersonic ammunition, and the SOCOM300-SPS is made to function optimally with subsonic ammunition.
It however doesnt restrict you from shooting supers. If size is more important than sound performance you have the right idea.
I wish they listed subsonic and supersonic performance with 300 blackout for the SOCOM762 RC2, because then we would get a better idea as to which platform delivers superior sound attenuation for supersonic 300 blackout. Anyway, I believe the smaller suppressor would be nice. It would definitely help with my hearing, and I'm certain subsonic 300 blackout would still be hearing safe without any hearing protection, but I'd need to get a meter to know for certain. I can handle a bit more sound volume, since I don't have any hearing bones in my right ear, which gives me a 60 decibel reduction in that ear, and I'm right-handed. However, I still need to wear hearing protection when shooting my AR with a crazy muzzle brake on it that vents the gasses backwards towards the shooter, because I get a bit of physical pain from my right eardrum getting pushed in so far.
I went with a socom762
See this post.
BUMP. I need someone with SOCOM762 MINI2 experience with 300 blackout.
Dude, don’t get a K can for 7.62 subs, that’s so gay, k cans are for 5.56 cause it’s gonna be loud and gassy anyways...even hop said he fucked up getting a resonator k
I plan on shooting primarily supers. Subs would just be for occasions where I really want to shoot, but I have to be as quiet as possible, maybe even getting away with a bit of full auto in places where there are large concentrations of people nearby, like within city limits.
Just get the full size, it’s only two inches more
You’re gonna wish it was quieter
I want the gun to be as short as possible, and if it still fires subsonic rounds below 130 decibels, then it's perfectly hearing safe. I'd need to get a decibel meter to measure that, though, but I'm pretty sure it would be below 130.
Decibels don’t mean shit for bearding damage...listen to the jay situation podcast and learn something
The length of the sound also matters, but fraction of a second sound bursts below 130 decibels are considered hearing safe. Those between 130 and 140 are considered hearing safe if they are only heard once every 24 hours.
Just get a Hyperion and take your gay surefire muzzle device off
>Just get a Hyperion
Enticer L-Ti is better at this point (saying this as a hyperion owner). About the same performance, shorter and lighter.
>and take your gay surefire muzzle device off
This is true though. But OP is a gay 100% of the time and this was a shitty thread.
I would destroy any titanium suppressor with full auto fire. Titanium suppressors are ideal for slow firing, and especially for bolt action rifles.
>I would destroy any titanium suppressor with full auto fire.
CGS says full auto is fine though to try to keep temp <800F. That's probably going to be about 50 rounds in a burst before a bit of cooldown time. Sure if you're just dumping and dumping you should go with steel, but are you actually doing that with 30cal? Not in the stupid bullshit you've described in this or your other thread (lol 5" 300bo mg that you're making from scratch and you refused to ever explain how you were dealing with the NFA on that).
>Titanium suppressors are ideal for slow firing, and especially for bolt action rifles.
It's fine on semiauto all day honestly. I don't need to baby it. I'm never mag dumping 308 on the range, and if it was home defense even 10 rounds would be plenty.
>Not in the stupid bullshit you've described in this or your other thread (lol 5" 300bo mg that you're making from scratch
Kek. There’s no way this retard is capable of making his own gun. Even a pipe SMG is too complicated for him
Have you started duct taping doubled ip plates to your chest to for snipers in your way into work?
Check raptors, light, extremely good suppression and reflexable.
I have determined this is a bait thread.
nobody is a stupid as OP
I have a 300sps and I enjoy it a lot, granted I shoot mostly subs. I have fired 556 through it and does have a pretty good suppression, but it does also have quite a bit of back pressure. I was getting lube and grease flying out the cracks between the upper and lower and getting onto my arm.
What about the SOCOM762-TI2? This thing looks like it would be way better at everything. Superior sound reduction. Superior longevity. Superior performance under full auto.
Nevermind. I was wrong on all of those points. If you do a full auto mag dump, the suppressor would lose it's effectiveness more quickly. Titanium suppressors are advertised as being the best suppressors for bolt action guns.
Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front.
What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on.
Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.
Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?