30 Super Carry

Your thoughts?

I hope it catches on.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wish it catches on, I don’t care about reduced recoil, even if it was more recoil than 9mm I’d carry it due to more capacity

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There's more to life than capacity, anon.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I thought suppressive fire is good.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What are you a cop?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Using innocent bystanders as backstops is a perfectly valid way to avoid unnecessary property damage.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Using innocent bystanders as cover
              Ftfy

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Jim Bob, PLEASE provide me with suppressive fire from your subcompact mouse gun. It's the only way we make it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Have you tried not missing? These aren’t rifles and it’s not an extended gunfight.

          After a certain point capacity in pistol has rapidly diminishing returns. Going from 6 to 8 is bigger than 8 to 12 which is a bigger than 12 to 18. Despite the first being 33% increase and the next two 50% increases

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          suppressive fire is more effective the more accurate you are.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If by, "suppressive fire" you mean "fired thru a suppressor" then, Yes, it's good.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No, but it would replace 9mm for me. I carry a .40 for superior barrier penetration anyway

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >No, but it would replace 9mm for me.
          Ah yes, I heccin love downgrading!!
          >unironically shills for .40 soft & weak
          That explains it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >soft & weak
            More like Superb & Wonderful.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >wowzers!! is that 50 ft lbs more energy in the pissin hottest load after squeezing every last grain of powder into my underpowered overbore cope cartridge? imagine da knock down powah!
              >it's not like they are pretty much exactly identical throughout the whole velocity and energy bell curve!!
              Why don't you shill for an actual Giga Chad cartridge like 10mm or 9x25 Dillon instead of your embarrassing glowBlack person wristlet cope adaption?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >only looked at energy
                the basedjack is you

                there are more to bullets than velocity and energy. .40 is much more consistent in penetration, many 9mm rounds will under penetrate due to excessive expansion

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >many 9mm rounds will under penetrate due to excessive expansion
                Pistol rounds in general are already notoriously bad at creating the permanent wound cavities you'd prefer to see in a self defense scenario involving a other person, so I don't see why your selling point for .40 is that it's better at zipping through the target and NOT expanding.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Name ONE thing. Just ONE.

        That’s right, you can’t. Checkmate. Life = capacity

        Nah really though i think 30 SC would make for some really cool subcompacts. Hellcat pro in like 17/18+1 would be sweet

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ft-lbs

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Name ONE thing. Just ONE
          Virgin tomboys. Checkmate

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Speed+Accuracy+Shot Placement= Life. You don't have to mag dump if you can shoot worth a frick.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So this argument is valid against cartridges more powerful than 9mm, but not against 9mm. Why do they think like this?

        love watching 9mm gays turn into the new .45ACP fudds. the future is now old man.

        You love to see it.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I hope it catches on.
    If it has half as much success as .357 sig did, doubtful as even that is, I'd consider it a success. That said it probably won't.

    I think a Glock 17 or 19 sized gun, something full-size-ish chambered in it would be pretty neat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      .357 Sig was the answer to a question literally no one asked, while Super Carry has tangible benefits, especially for subcompact enjoyers like myself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That comment wasn't really meant to be a comment on the effectiveness of .357 Sig, more the level of success I think .30 SC should shoot for as a gauge to see if it's ever going to anything more than another .45 GAP or .327 magnum. Say what you will about the effectiveness of .357 Sig, it has at least seen some limited success financially between Secret Service, Air Marshals, and a few assorted state police agencies.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >no one asked
        The Texas DPS asked.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        .357 sig is the best handgun cartridge you can carry. Its better than 9mm, .40, .45, and 10mm

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >.357 sig
      Adopted by several agencies, then immediately dropped. Also a dead meme with no future and barely no past. Even SIG doesn't make guns for it anymore.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Your thoughts?
    Another fricking scamround by an ammo company to try to juice sales with something higher profit and get people to buy new guns and ammo for absolutely zero real world benefit.
    >I hope it catches on.
    I hope it dies hard, though instead it'll probably just sit around in meme status for ages. People pushing this garbage on /k/ have been irritating though.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally the most moronic consoooomer cartridge released so far. It doesn't even pretend to fill a niche, because the Black person homosexuals at federal know full well there isn't a niche to fill. It's wimpier than 9mm in every configuration despite being 42% more pressure. People can already carry 17 rounds of more powerful 9mm in a full sized G17 or 15 rounds in a sub-compact G19. Why would they carry 19 rounds of superhomosexual, which not only is much more expensive, less ubiquitous and weaker?
    It's like these braindead Black folk tried filling the gap between .380 and 9mm, but it turned out there was no gap there.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It kicks like a 9, which rules out the ultra subcompact or lady guns sections of the market. The only market for this is autistic self defense minmaxers, and that market is also willing to carry compacts or even fullsize guns and just deal with the inconvenience. There's no lucrative niche, and there's only a few guns in the caliber. When Glock comes out with a .30 SC model, then you'll know it has legs, just like the Glock 20 saved 10mm. But really, if you are serious about CCing just learn to conceal a larger gun, you'll shoot much better. Otherwise, a ultracompact with 10-13 rounds is gud enuff

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like for it to catch on. I think it makes more sense than a 9mm, but unfortunately it's very difficult to introduce a new caliber unless it fits a new niche. I'm doubtful that being a little better than 9mm is enough to get a foot into the market, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
    But then again, it's still new. Maybe some new guns will get introduced that'll make it more popular.
    But even if it manages to stay alive it won't be nearly as popular as 9mm leading to higher prices which may make 9mm the better choice still.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    327 Federal Chad here. If it makes .32 bullets more widely available for the handloader then I'm all for it.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why would they invent this when 7.62 tok exists?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why does that cringy mongoloid meme exist when .30 Luger already existed?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        because 7.62 tok is actually still produced and has guns chambered for it?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So is 9mm. I'm asking why 7.62 mongoloid was invented when 7.63 Parabellum had already existed during the time of its development. It's literally a shameless copy.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Something something licensing and manufacturing rights.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >It's literally a shameless copy.

            Good job, answering your own question. Soviets wanted something in .30 so they could use the same tooling that they used for rifle barrels and the dimensional similarities made it so that you could use 7.63 in a tok if you really needed to.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because .30 Luger is bottlenecked. You don’t gain a capacity advantage vs 9mm

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, 7.62 tokarev cases are as wide as 9mm. You're missing the entire point.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why not a .380 then?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Is this a troll post?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not as much a troll post as shilling .30 super carry.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, 380 cases are as wide as 9mm cases. You're missing the entire point.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Try a mag change then.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The point of 30 SC was to use a smaller case head for higher mag capacity. Going from 9mm to 380 offers zero benefit unless you’re a recoil-shy woman. 30SC offers 2 or 3 rounds extra capacity, works out to like 10-15%. Most valuable in tiny subcompacts

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                An extended baseplate adds another 2rds of capacity. Another mag for a glock is another 17 rounds. You can get 33rd mags and drums for a glock as reloads if you are worried about capacity and the ammo is on the shelves right now.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Extra capacity for the same mag length*

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That same mag length, extra capacity is going to cost you:

                Parts commonality
                Ammo availability
                Mag interchangability

                Just change the mag out. A glock mag fits in your back pocket.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                An extended baseplate would add 3 rounds for 30 SC.

                Look dumbass if size/capacity means nothing to you then no one's stopping you from carrying 30 round extendo mags. For those of us in the real world, packing more rounds in a smaller package is an all around good idea.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >packing more rounds in a smaller package is an all around good idea.
                I‘m sure unpaid 30 superhomosexual shills know all about carrying tiny packages.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And those equivalent mags in .30SC would hold even more. What don’t you get?

                It might be unnecessary (I think it is) but there is a very real increase

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The point of 30 SC
                Was to generate revenue for 0 innovation in cartridges AND firearms. It's almost admirable how little gaygeral even tried with this one and how quickly it will die. It's just as gay as .338 gaygeral and .40 shit and weak.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you took a hellcat pro or p365xl chambered in 30sc which would give you 2 extra rounds, You'd have 14+1 then if you got one of those spring kits you'd have 16+1 in a flushfitting mag, 18+1 in a pinky extension Mag in a p365xl. In a micro compact p365 you could get 14+1 in a flush mag and 16+1 in a pinky extension. You'd get more rounds than a Glock 17 in a gun half the size, that's pretty cool to me. That's the niche, so idk why people are saying there isn't one.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. It’s a great round for taking capacity to the nth degree. There are other costs, but still, it’s good for that niche

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It is a niche and it will have some followers. But when you factor in a new gun cost and cost of ammo how many buy in? Yeah have full sized capacity in a subcompact frame is awesome. But I really don’t feel undergunned with 11+1 or 13+1 with my Hellcat. I don’t see where I’d fire 12 rounds from a pistol and lose and the determining factor is having another 3-5 rounds

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              How does changing a mag give you more .380 ammo than 9mm?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How dumb are you?

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    .22lr
    .25
    .38
    .380
    9mm
    .357
    .44mag
    .45ACP
    .50AE
    Etc.

    Yeah we need another random ass caliber to fill some sort of niche role that is expenive and hard to find and uses up primers, brass, powder and lead that was needed for something else. What a gay name for a meme round.

    I'm wondering if this is the brainchild of some elden boomer and all the aspiring boomers are buffing his wiener, shilling this round for him in order to gain boomer clout. This shit needs to die before people waste money on it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Also when I shill something it's typically in the best interest of everyone like .308 battle rifles, ar-15's, good 1911's and glocks, etc.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Meme cartridges for meme guns carried by meme people.

      All this does is waste brass, lead, copper and primers that could be used in an ACTUAL cartridge that is ACTUALLY chambered in ACTUAL guns owned, carried and shot by ACTUAL people.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's a decent option for people who happen to like the specific tradeoffs in it. As far as <9mm pistol calibres go, it is a much better concept than 5.7 for sure. And the modern world has space for many uncommon calibres, why not one more.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We need the components for something else like something common.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >We need the components for something else
        Oh please. Very few people are going to buy an extra pistol to carry .30SC, rather than "because I felt like it". And noone's going to stockpile large amounts of .30SC.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If very few people are going to carry it and buy a good amount of ammo for it, why the frick should companies sell it and make stuff for it. If a caliber dies then you are stuck with a paperweight or stuck reloading the same cases until they split. $100 for a box of 20 .30 super carry in 10 years doesn't sound like that good of an idea. If you want capacity, they sell mag extensions and extended mags for guns that are worth a shit.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You don't know how many people will use it. I'm saying, the people who will buy a .30SC on top of their existing pistols might just as well have bought another pistol instead.
            >If a caliber dies then you are stuck with a paperweight or stuck reloading the same cases
            Even if it never becomes very popular, there's no reason to assume ammo will stop being made at all.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            off the top of your head, name one cartridge introduced by a major ammo manufacturer that just suddenly disappeared and is no longer available for purchase

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              .410

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              .45 GAP. Also .327 federal is basically dead which is a shame. Even .260 Remington is basically dead (though easily reloaded) even though it is 6.5 creedmoor 10 years before it 6.5CM even existed

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >.327 federal
                Don't remind me anon. I love this round

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Same. I never owned one because it died by the time I had money for non-standard guns. I thought it was (still is) a great idea

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >If you want capacity, they sell mag extensions and extended mags for guns that are worth a shit.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I want it to succeed because I like to see new cartridges come on the market. I want more wildcats too.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    love watching 9mm gays turn into the new .45ACP fudds. the future is now old man.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This guy lives off corndogs and vanilla yogurt ONLY ffs.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >average 30 superhomosexual consooomer is a corn syrup addict soiboi with severely underdeveloped lower mandibles
      I believe it.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Useless, dead end cartridge. Hold a memorial service for it and move on.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think its cool. I'm glad companies try to do something different every once in a while.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'd be interested in a Glock 43 and 43x chambered for it with metal mags and a compensator like the Radian Ramjet from the factory. 10-12 rounds in the 43 and 17
    rounds in the 43x. The integrated comp would be very effective considering the cartridge pressure. You effectively end up with guns equivalent to the Glock 26 and Glock 17 but significantly smaller and lighter.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    cartridge not needed

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    One thing I don't understand is why this has been shilled on /k/ so hard for awhile now. I mean, I guess on launch naturally it being new it'd get spammed and shitposted with etc, but what's the point now? And /k/ is a minnow of an audience, yeah 4chingchong itself is sizable but most of that goes to PrepHole, /b/, PrepHole etc.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not much else to talk about, especially when it comes to handguns.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because 30 supertroony shills are mentally ill and can't simply be normal like their wife's bull who shoots 9mm.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        My wife's bull shoots .45 and fricks your wife's bull's wife.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Frick ya wife

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >9mmdittor immediately starts making cuckolding references unprompted
        I just like .30 super duper carry because it exposes 9mmgays as the stoppan powah fudds they always accused everyone else of being.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >you are le projecting cuckold fetishist for saying my wife gets railed by chads
          >here is a troony meme

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Post I quoted mentioned trannies first you blind moron. Post guns or go leaveddit. Verification not required.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          357mag and 10mm aren't troony, are they? Maybe if the backup trannies were 357sig and 40s&w, then yeah.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing wrong with them as calibers, they (mostly 10mm) just occupy a weird place where the get the shit shilled out of them. .357 is especially economical because you can practice with .38 special.
            t. reloads and owns guns in .32, .380, .38 special, 9mm mak, 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 magnum, and hopefully 10mm and .45 super soon.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >.357 is especially economical because you can practice with .38 special.
              I wish that were still true. It's hard to get a good price on .38 now, if you can even find it it'll probably be notably more than 9mm.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I know what might help lower the price and up availabilty of .38spl.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone getting off their ass and getting a job again?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I just like 9mm because it's cheaper than any other centerfire handgun cartridge. If that changes I'll probably start carrying that instead.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Paul Harrel didn't see much expansion with the hollow points I think. I'll stick with 9mm HP and .380 ball.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Make reliable 10mm pistols that are long slide, optics ready, can handle all available rounds and have good capacity. .30SC probably isn't as good for bears.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    9mm for cost
    .40 s&w for carry
    10mm for bears
    .38 special for crimes

    The only pistol cartridges that matter.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    benefits
    like 15% more capacity
    downsides
    maybe slightly weaker then 9mm? (that barely matters honestly)
    compatibility with literally everything is gone, barrels, mags, comps, none of it will work
    ammo costs more

    this is useful in the context of subcompacts if you know the tradeoffs, and I do imagine it'll catch on, but I don't think it's gonna replace 9mm any time soon
    Can all of you stop getting angry at nothing now please?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      10->13 rounds in the shield+ is a 30% increase.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        akshually it's a 23% increase
        but yea fair enough

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You used the wrong denominator. 10 rounds is a 23% decrease from 13, but 13 rounds is a 30% increase from 10 (1 - 10/13 vs 13/10).

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I am moronic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it the same old song
      >New thing is slightly better than old thing
      >No one wants to deal with adopting new thing because the cost of changing is high
      >Old thing keeps going forever
      It's probably not as big of a problem when it comes to calibers but I've actually declined some jobs because I don't want to deal with computer systems that are older than myself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        well this is the kind of thing where being slightly better is actually worth going for, people want more capacity for less size so it's tempting
        for comparison, the M2 will keep going on forever because there isn't really any metric you can really improve on that's worth going for

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >People want
          Nobody I have ever talked to wants .30 stupid carry. I want a Glock 40 MOS. I think we all do. Make that. Instead of buying what you are shilling, I am going to buy some other stuff right now. You could have made money from me 5 minutes from now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The nice thing about pistol calibres is that the cost of changing amounts to a single pistol.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'd argue one of the most important factors is the price of ammunition. Nothing will become more popular than 9mm as long as 9mm is cheaper. Nothing will become cheaper than 9mm as long as 9mm is more popular. You see the issue

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You should use 9mm because I'm poor
            Not really the compelling argument you thought it was...

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What are you talking about anon? For most people price is an important factor. Even wealthy people care about price. Nothing will dethrone 9mm as long as 9mm is cheaper, that's just the reality of the situation.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I like the idea of it, but unfortunately I'm a firm believer in the idea that you should train with your carry gun most of all, and that means shooting hundreds and thousands of rounds of 30SC. Shit ain't going to be cheap.

            What are you talking about anon? For most people price is an important factor. Even wealthy people care about price. Nothing will dethrone 9mm as long as 9mm is cheaper, that's just the reality of the situation.

            Dumb cartridge. It's like they looked at 9mm, decided it was too potent and effective of a cartridge and decided see just how low they could really go while staying "adequate". The extra capacity isn't worth the decreased performance in other categories(bone/barrier penetration, pressure, blast, wear/tear, etc) let alone the price or fact that it'll be a dead cartridge inside of 10yrs.

            I just like 9mm because it's cheaper than any other centerfire handgun cartridge. If that changes I'll probably start carrying that instead.

            where does the meme that .30sc is unjustifiably expensive come from? Yeah, it's not 9mm cheap. Nothing is. Only a handful of rounds beat it out in price and not by enough to right home about

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's still more expensive than 9mm, so I'll sleep well with my 2 fewer rounds and 5 extra dollars.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                23% fewer, we established this already. You lose 3 rounds in the Shield Plus, which is the only real point of comparison atm. A 15 round compact should be able to hold like 20 rounds of .30 SC, which is why I'm sad that they've only made subcompacts so far.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                oh no not my 3 rounds how will I ever recover bros

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >whats da pwobwem with a weaker wound being more expensive and wess ubiquitous and chambered in like two guns??

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Its solely because its initial offerings are guns the same size class where 9x19 is common. Had they opened with micros to compete with .32 (power gain) or .380 (capacity gain) no one would have blinked.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Note how the recoil is also literally identical to 9mm in the same guns. The moronicly high pressure will make it shoot like absolute garbage in compacts.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah, it's not 9mm cheap. Nothing is.
              That’s the point
              >weaker than 9mm
              >more expensive than 9mm
              Not hard to tell why people aren’t getting excited. I understand the irony because it’s the 9 vs 45 argument all over again but no one has thought 9mm lacked capacity as one of its shortcomings. At least with 10mm or .45 you get bigger and more powerful round so the price is more palatable.

              Would you rather shoot .30 SC or .223? It’s basically the same cost.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Cost of ammo is a bigger factor

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well, to the vanishingly small population that actually practices an appropriate amount. 90% of people will just buy the gun, buy some carry ammo, and let it collect dust, in which case cost isn't really a concern. I think a really good way to get more people to buy it is to sell conversion kits for m&p handguns and Glocks. Then you could always practice with your 9mm in the same gun that you'll be carrying and it gives people a low-cost excuse to try it out.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              .30 Super Carry. A gun marketed to those who won't shoot it, but might need it for self-defense.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Statistically that would be the vast majority of the market... so yes.

                It's not like anything stops you from shooting your 9mm just because you also bought a .30SC. And I presume you have that stock because you want to have stock, not bececause you bought a lot at once and now want to shoot them all until your stock is completely gone.
                [...]
                And there's nothing to stop you from shooting the 9mm you have for training and the .30SC only to test the ammo, which doesn't take much ammo.

                I think the argument to the first point is that you wouldn't be practicing with the same gun you'd use unless you bought two M&P Shield+'s. The conversion kit approach completely solves that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              That’s a fair point. At least right now though, it doesn’t seem marketed towards those people. The buyer who wants a pistol but never carries or shoots it doesn’t know about it. They know about 9mm. They know what glocks are.

              The other side is even though most people don’t shoot that much, a lot think they will or buy ammo expecting to or buy ammo to stockpile. $4-5 on a box of ammo isn’t a big deal but it matters on 10 or 20. We’re all guilty of this to some degree. I have a case of 9x18 I haven’t even cracked into from 3 years ago. I like my Mak, it’s fun. But I always end up shooting other things instead

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I've got a stock of 9mm, a large selection of magazines (many of which can be interchanged between my pistols), and a few holsters. When you have several thousand dollars in a certain round, "lol just buy a new gun" isn't really all that an appealing of an option.

          It'd be different if it was an interesting round that did anything exceptionally better, but it isn't and doesn't.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's not like anything stops you from shooting your 9mm just because you also bought a .30SC. And I presume you have that stock because you want to have stock, not bececause you bought a lot at once and now want to shoot them all until your stock is completely gone.

            Well, to the vanishingly small population that actually practices an appropriate amount. 90% of people will just buy the gun, buy some carry ammo, and let it collect dust, in which case cost isn't really a concern. I think a really good way to get more people to buy it is to sell conversion kits for m&p handguns and Glocks. Then you could always practice with your 9mm in the same gun that you'll be carrying and it gives people a low-cost excuse to try it out.

            And there's nothing to stop you from shooting the 9mm you have for training and the .30SC only to test the ammo, which doesn't take much ammo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I carry a .380 like 75% of the time anyway so 30SC being not as good as 9x19 doesn't bother me and I'm not buying a bunch of crazy accessories for my carry guns, so it's just a holster, a couple mags, and ammo for it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >.380
        benefits

        downsides
        weaker then 9mm
        compatibility with literally everything is gone, barrels, mags, comps, none of it will work
        ammo costs more

        I like everything about the concept but if it catches on it will either take away from 9mm or .380. If it takes away from .380, it'll kill that round... if it catches on.

        I'm pretty ok with that

        >People want
        Nobody I have ever talked to wants .30 stupid carry. I want a Glock 40 MOS. I think we all do. Make that. Instead of buying what you are shilling, I am going to buy some other stuff right now. You could have made money from me 5 minutes from now.

        good luck conceal carrying a longslide lmao
        that said, based 10mm enjoyer

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even mildly popular. It's not brought up outside your circle. Go to any forum on the internet it hasn't been brought up since it's inception except by shills. How much money people want to lose developing this project is on them, I'm sure they won't raise the price of anything they sell to make up for it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it's not really relevant if it's popular, it just needs to be popular enough for the ammo to be available. It is a sound concept, the question is if it'll stick around, and I think it will

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >it just needs to be popular enough for the ammo to be available
              Exactly. I can still walk into a bigbox store and buy 45GAP, 357Sig, 327Fed, and any number of other chamberings that "didn't make it".

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's still worth owning at least one .40 if only for the ease of caliber conversion. Extra flexibility is nice during an ammo crunch, one of which we're almost all but guaranteed to see again next year with the upcoming election.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >.30 stupid carry taking up 10mm shelf space.
                Please no.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like everything about the concept but if it catches on it will either take away from 9mm or .380. If it takes away from .380, it'll kill that round... if it catches on.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone needs to start carrying 10mm, that'll solve it.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like the idea of it, but unfortunately I'm a firm believer in the idea that you should train with your carry gun most of all, and that means shooting hundreds and thousands of rounds of 30SC. Shit ain't going to be cheap.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Needs a submachinegun with lots of capacity, I'm thinking an MP7 lookalike

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    10mm hard cast good for bears. .30 super carry only good for one thing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Troon suicides?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, that's what 12 gauge is for.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    10mm good for 3 things actually. That's why it doesn't require a brigade of shills, and is more than a good thing to see on the shelf. Seeing .30SC on the shelf taking up space will just be annoying as frick.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can the samegayging 10mm poster please stop? Nobody gives a shit about your "bear gun."

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Can the .30 shitty carry thread just die? Stupid thread is struggling to stay on page 2 with me trolling it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You have never seen a bear in your life outside of a zoo

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Probably because all those bears caught 10mm hard cast and died.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How many bears has .30 South Carolina killed?

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb cartridge. It's like they looked at 9mm, decided it was too potent and effective of a cartridge and decided see just how low they could really go while staying "adequate". The extra capacity isn't worth the decreased performance in other categories(bone/barrier penetration, pressure, blast, wear/tear, etc) let alone the price or fact that it'll be a dead cartridge inside of 10yrs.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >.30"super carry"
    >Not 7.92x24VBR-S
    The 50ksi chamber pressure (70ksi proof) and compatibility with 9x19 guns is interesting.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    NOOOOOO I HATE THE NEW BULLET STOP INOVATING STOP FRICKING INOVATING!!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is against innovation. That being said, nobody wants .30 Super Carry for good reason already stated in this thread. Good things sell themselves and don't need this level of shilling. Also, why is this thread still a thing?

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A good .30 carbine pistol would be cool. That would drive sales for .30 carbine so M1 Carbines get food, but no, .30 super gay may take space off the shelf for something worth a frick.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      .30 cal is shit. That is for pistols and for rifles btw. Oh and .30 supertroony isn't even a true .308 cal. It's 0.311.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Turdy Sucky-wienery is the caliber of choice for Transgender Suicide.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick .30 super scary.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All I want is an extremely small, slim, light pocket pistol chambered in Super Carry. No, smaller than that. I want a pistol suitable for a child's hands, powerful enough to kill a man. So compact I can concealed carry it in speedos. I want the lightest killing gun in the world. Like Kolibri but meaner.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I want a 3-5 shot mag fed pocket gun in .14 flea. Get on it kel tec

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I hope S&W comes out with the CSX in super carry.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
    >the dipshit who made these meme calibers during the ammopocalypse
    I hope he gets raped by a pack of wolverines.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Meme caliber.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why I would take this over just going full 5.7mm

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've never been one for carrying tiny handguns so it doesn't have much application for me over a 9mm. If I really want the extra ammo capacity, I might as well go with 5.7.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I NEED A GLOCK 17 CHAMBERED IN
    30SC I NEED A GLOCK 17 CHAMBERED IN
    30SC I NEED A GLOCK 17 CHAMBERED IN
    30SC I NEED A GLOCK 17 CHAMBERED IN
    30SC

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Me personally, I'm waiting for .32 Super Duper Carry to come out. That will be a revolutionary game changer when it hits the market soon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they should have called it 32 super, it was the right name. Instead they went with their focus groups and marketing dweebs and lie to us to try and squeeze out a few more shekels

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >32 super, it was the right name.
        No you don’t get it
        >32 = weak and tiny mouse gun
        >30 = big strong man caliber like the M1 and M14

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I’m working on a 35 super carry magnum. Gonna be game changer. You lose a little capacity but gain power and penetration over 30SC.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'll consider these guns when they rebarrel them for 9mm and take glock mags.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How much did you spend on making dies? We will help you recover the loss, but you need to listen to what we want. I actually kinda feel bad.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The carry caliber war is over. There's only one question left - Thumb safety or no thumb safety?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Overpriced peashooter bullets

      No thx anon

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