20k is a fairly small amount for a month, i'd say?

20k is a fairly small amount for a month, i'd say?
If we consider the average daily casualties being around 1500ish, you'd have something like 45k dead.
>but OP they're the casualties not the KiAs
Yeah good luck with that top notch russian evac.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    WIA is a wide spectrum, even if it's small frag that's superficial my homie.
    Either way, 20k a month puts them around 520k KIA, which lines up.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >around 520k KIA
      Does this figure only include official members of the moscal military?
      Does this it include the now extinct armies of Donbabwe and Luganda?
      Does it include Wanker group and/or Storm-Zig?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        homie we don't fricking know. Quit with the rhetorical questions or frick off, this isn't reddit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          it's not even relevant, we just need to keep this pace

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It most likely does include all the donbass conscripts - hence their now near total extinction

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.
        No.
        Partially.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Lives lost means deaths

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That’s literally 5k dead/wounded per week. I’d say that’s a low ball.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    540,000. I am surprised he always seems to tell the truth when it comes to human losses

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      good old fashioned stalintistics

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >stalintistics
        ????

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Merely half a Vietnam every month
    Things are going just fine

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They are steadily approaching their WWI death toll of 1.8 million

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Started at "two days to Kiev". Now we are at "suffered 25% of WW1 KIA". Jesus christ.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      US had 300K casualties, and 58K dead.

      Poor fricking peasants from the other side of the Urals for ₽20K/month and Cuban, African, Pajeet and Chink mercs.

      Cubans have military training and are smart enough to not get direct combat roles. Which is why you don't see Cubans in drone videos.

      [...]
      Why isn't the West doing the same? We are richer just give some thirdie couple thousand bucks a month to fight for Ukraine.

      They definitely should get 100K foreign workers, and maybe 50K logistics workers from foreign lands. They will be far away from the front lines, will actually be paid, and won't die. This is too smart and too good a deal for thirdies though, who will chose instead to be scammed into dying on the Russian frontlines.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >lives lost
    >wounded in action
    Orthodox resurrection magic stronk.
    Materialist westoids wouldn't understand.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      may we see the resurrected vatnik?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        He has already been sent to the front again and was bombed to pieces by an unhappy friendly fier incident

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    He let slip the daily losses without thinking about it, which led to people calculating the monthly losses which are in-line with other ones. Ukraine is estimating just under 30K a month on average, with May being 40K. Russia can mobilize around 30K a month so it's more akin to mowing the lawn.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What a fricking meatgrinder

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        welcome to real war, this is how the russians win wars, brute force

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If you put WW2 aside (along with the impact of the lend lease), Russia has a fricking abysmal record for the 19th-21st centuries.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And make no mistake, Russia is winning. Theyve repeatedly taken territory with this tactic, going all the way back to bakhmut and mariupol. It's a tried and true effective strategy despite what westerners say. You /k/opers keep laughing at all those destroyed Russian columns yet who holds avdivka today? If it's a war of meat, than guess who has way more meat, Ukraine or Russia? You laugh at Russians use of Indians and Africans but meat is meat and Russia gets regular recruitment of these thirdies, meanwhile no meatwave of thirdies for Ukraine, just a trickle of westerns they have to pay boatloads of money. The recruitment and manpower disparity is not even close between the 2 countries.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds terrible. I don't want to live in a world where that happens. What should we do?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Vote Trump. Cease all aid to Ukraine. Allow the inevitable to happen quickly as to reduce suffering of the Ukrainian people.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                attack a nato country please

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What's the inevitable that needs to happen? What constitutes the end of the war?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Demilitarization of Ukraine. Recognizing LPR DPR as independent nations and Crimea as a part of Russia. A referendum for Ukraine in 2026. I'd say arrest of Zelensky for war crimes but peace should be even handed and somewhat merciful to the loser, but he needs to be exiled to UK or America

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Recognizing LPR DPR as independent nations
                No one tell him

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                There was a second SU-57 destroyed today wasn't there?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >A referendum for Ukraine in 2026.
                A referendum on what? Accession to the Russian Federation?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Zelensky for war crimes
                Alright, I'll take the bait. What war crimes?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                touch poland please i beg you i will be normal about my reply please please please please

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Trump just said in an interview 2 weeks ago he was going to increase aid and let Ukraine attack anywhere in Russia

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds terrible. I don't want to live in a world where that happens. What should we do?

            Vote Trump. Cease all aid to Ukraine. Allow the inevitable to happen quickly as to reduce suffering of the Ukrainian people.

            Totally organic and not at all samegayging, sirs.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Vote Trump. Cease all aid to Ukraine. Allow the inevitable to happen quickly as to reduce suffering of the Ukrainian people.

            Russia is losing. These is completely unsustainable losses and they will be out of armored vehicles before too long.
            Meat waves only work when there's some metal mixed in and Russia is running out of metal.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >They will be out of armored vehicles before too long

              lol western propaganda has been saying that March 2022. 2 more weeks?

              >Unsustainable losses
              I've already proven this narrative false in the post you're replying to.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >proven
                Nah you just asserted some nonsense. Ukraine is going to win because the West wills it so. The massive force disparity between the West and Russia is insurmountable. Just look at what happened when Russia took Avdeevka, the trickle of western aid was cranked up a notch, and the conditions of usage of those weapons was relaxed.
                It spooked the American congress enough that their speaker finally stopped playing frick frick games and released the aid they'd been holding up for 9 months.
                Russia's might "Kharkiv Offensive" is an unparalleled disaster that Russia, rather than Ukraine, is now having to rush troops into a meatgrinder to try and prevent a frontal collapse as they desperately try to hold on to two enclaves that extend less than 10kms into Ukraine.
                Russia is done, it's high water mark is well passed. Cope however you can but you know that because the West wills it, Ukraine will win.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds terrible. I don't want to live in a world where that happens. What should we do?

            Vote Trump. Cease all aid to Ukraine. Allow the inevitable to happen quickly as to reduce suffering of the Ukrainian people.

            God, would you two homosexuals at least make the b8 reasonable?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It's an embarrassing way to win

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              it's pretty good way to win.
              remember homosexuals
              you're losing

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Behold the speed of the mighty meat wave.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >After 9 months of zero US aid, Russia managed to take less than 20 square kilometers
                Lol
                Lmao

                kek always the same cope
                >NoT fAsT eNoUgH
                they took 4 times more ground in 4 months than ukraine did in 6 months during it's super counter offensive

                cope, piss and shit homosexuals, you're losing

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                people who win don't have to angrily spam that they're winning 24/7

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The fricking Ukrainian airforce is still bombing Russia. They shouldn’t even exist if Russia was going to win this.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I agree, slow wars always win.

                Like NATO vs the Soviets. The soviets got their asses handed to them, and the same will happen this time.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Let’s test this theory with a prediction: by what date will Russian forces have reached Balikleiya and recaptured all the territory from which they fled in their 2022 retreat? Don’t be overly pessimistic; take a real swing at it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                zhukov is shaking his head in his grave

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >After 9 months of zero US aid, Russia managed to take less than 20 square kilometers
                Lol
                Lmao

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                welcome to real war, this is how the russians win wars, brute force

                And make no mistake, Russia is winning. Theyve repeatedly taken territory with this tactic, going all the way back to bakhmut and mariupol. It's a tried and true effective strategy despite what westerners say. You /k/opers keep laughing at all those destroyed Russian columns yet who holds avdivka today? If it's a war of meat, than guess who has way more meat, Ukraine or Russia? You laugh at Russians use of Indians and Africans but meat is meat and Russia gets regular recruitment of these thirdies, meanwhile no meatwave of thirdies for Ukraine, just a trickle of westerns they have to pay boatloads of money. The recruitment and manpower disparity is not even close between the 2 countries.

                Is Kherson still Russian forever?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why are zigger chuds and brownoids so delusional

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Because Russia's only strength is in convincing people they're weak. The second someone stands up to them, they back down.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I guess Ukraine just hasn't properly stood up to them yet

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >cue hundreds of webms of russians offing themselves in ukraine.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                ukraine is slowly rising an eyebrow and russia is starting to understand everything.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                why are you not embarrassed by yourself

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                why are you not poo in the loo?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                See

                https://i.imgur.com/pJNuDcv.jpeg

                [...]
                [...]
                Is Kherson still Russian forever?

                Is Kherson still Russian forever?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >suffering Lanchester square collapse
                >this is winning
                reminder that >20% of all recorded RU losses in this 27-ish month old conflict have occurred in the prior 2.5 months.
                Which were also some of the most unproductive months for Russian offenses ever recorded.

                Please keep winning. I want to see this trajectory kept for another 36 months. That way we are guaranteed to exterminate every single Russian as 10,000 die for less than then a tenth of a kilometer.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                an anon from the daily russian losses threads predicted this.russia has lost around 67% of its pre war artillery stock according to some graphs.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                About 300 more years of this 'winning' and they'll have matched the 'winning' that America did in Afghanistan

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have that map updated to today?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                lol yeah ukraine just lost another chunk

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What scale is that map?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                each square is an acre.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                square is 20km
                https://deepstatemap.live/en#9/47.8280/36.6834

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Nah it's say my taxes are doing a pretty good job killing ziggers

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds terrible. I don't want to live in a world where that happens. What should we do?

            Vote Trump. Cease all aid to Ukraine. Allow the inevitable to happen quickly as to reduce suffering of the Ukrainian people.

            jesus christ are we really seeing this? are we really reverting to this?
            >much obliged

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          But Russia lost almost every war they’ve been in and only survived WW2 due to western aid.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          so much winning zister

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >He let slip the daily losses without thinking about it
      yeaaa gonna need a source for that

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe you should read more about the war. It's common knowledge at this point.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          so you have zero proof. I accept your concession

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            See

            https://i.imgur.com/hUXSxr5.jpeg

            Stupid frick.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That was back in an interview during the election season. He bragged about how many people they'd enlisted since the war, then half an hour later bragged about how much the Russian army had grown by, and the difference between the two figures measured out to right about where Ukraine's casualty claims were. I'm not going to go find the interview because there wasn't a dedicated thread and hunting for 6-month old news in a foreign language is a pain in the ass, but word broke here on the 14th of December if you want to go hunting.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No, he said Ukraine has 50k casualties a month and half of those are deaths, then he said Russia's kill to death ratio is 5:1. This would mean that Russia is losing 5k. I don't know how that got spun into the incredibly stupid headline above considering it's completely based on lies and they've conflated casualties with deaths.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >20k is a fairly small amount for a month, i'd say?
    In WW1 maybe.
    In a modern war, supposedly perpetrated by the worlds second army, against a small regional power, it's a disaster.
    The wounded will be many times that amount. Make no mistake, this is one of the great military blunders.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yeah people don't seem to respect the fact that the world is a different place than it was in 1914.
      >most nations outside of abject turdie shitholes have sub replacement or barely above replacement fertility
      >the cost of equipping and training a soldier to modern standards, even modern Russian standards, is several times higher
      Any way you spin this it is very likely that Russia's losses in the 3 day SMO now exceed US losses in WWII. Casualties in this war have likely already exceeded Iran-Iraq which makes this the biggest interstate war since WWII, anywhere.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia's losses in the 3 day SMO now exceed US losses in WWII
        on a per capita basis, definitely

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          WW2 era USA and modern Russia actually have pretty similar populations. 132 million vs 147 million

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    great patriotic war larp

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    how does one generate 20K new military personnel each month?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Offer Africans money to fight for you

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Poor fricking peasants from the other side of the Urals for ₽20K/month and Cuban, African, Pajeet and Chink mercs.

        Why isn't the West doing the same? We are richer just give some thirdie couple thousand bucks a month to fight for Ukraine.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because Westerners already willingly go there to fight Russians for free

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            wut?
            t. ukie

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              He is saying that westerners already volunteering without looking for monetary gain. Russia has to offer monetary compensation(like the equivalent of a McDonald’s worker salary in the west) to entice people from third world countries to fight for them.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Most of them aren't very good at it, and would be hard to integrate with Ukrainian forces, also as

          US had 300K casualties, and 58K dead.

          [...]
          Cubans have military training and are smart enough to not get direct combat roles. Which is why you don't see Cubans in drone videos.

          [...]
          They definitely should get 100K foreign workers, and maybe 50K logistics workers from foreign lands. They will be far away from the front lines, will actually be paid, and won't die. This is too smart and too good a deal for thirdies though, who will chose instead to be scammed into dying on the Russian frontlines.

          says, dumb turdies will rather go to Russia, and the smart ones are smart enough to not go to either side.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Poor fricking peasants from the other side of the Urals for ₽20K/month and Cuban, African, Pajeet and Chink mercs.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Around 1000 Russians volunteer every day

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They're necessary to power the astroe-girlcon.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Their citizens are poor as frick and have no other means, and are fed propaganda on a 24/7 basis. Most of them go in thinking Russia is close to reaching the Atlantic Coast and planning an invasion of England. They have no idea how bad things are.

      Except for Moscow and St. Petersburg. I'd say the vast majority of them know how fricking bad it is, but they just keep their mouth shut.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's really strange how effective their propaganda is.
        I know one girl who wanted to spend her summer vacations in Crimea.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Out in the poor regions, the citizens are dumb as frick and barely educated. I would hazard to guess most can't read and write.

          Then there is lack of access to the outside world. Phone coverage and internet reliability are issues...since Russia doesnt put money into those regions. Partially because they don't care, and partially to keep these people in the dark. Even in spots were they have an internet connection, any sites showing the truth of the war have long since been blocked.

          The only reliable source of connection to the outside world is the television is which is propaganda 24/7

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            They are genuinely stupid, and they get a head-full of propaganda. I've also heard that the Russian education system started to collapse in the mid 80's and they just filled it with idiotic nationalist education, so you have a whole generation of mindless nationalists who would in turn give that to their children.

            There's stories of guys who died and actually volunteered to go from these regions, and citing things like it would be a dishonor to not fight while your comrades did.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I was reading something about the Mongol invasions and occupation, and they would intentionally refuse to build roads between Russian cities, instead opting to only build roads back to the Mongol capital. The thought being it was best to keep communication between these Russian settlements to minimum so they didn't talk and begin to realized how badly they were getting fricked over and then plot to rebel.

              As soon as the Mongol empire collapsed, Russia took what it learned from that and implemented on it's own people

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Mongols didn't build anything. If it was benificial to the mongols to keep infrastructure low, then it's an happy accident.

                Why would the Rus tribes build roads between them, they hate eachother probably more than the Mongols

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              The ones I know really aren't stupid, and their education system seems better than in my country (France)
              But they are weirdly OK with the rampant corruption and "aren't into politics" (don't want to risk changing things)

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The ones I know are absolutely, pants-down moronic, arrogant like no other, completely indifferent materialists/narcissists (Belgium).

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >The ones I know really aren't stupid, and their education system seems better than in my country (France)
                >But they are weirdly OK with the rampant corruption and "aren't into politics" (don't want to risk changing things)

                Those are 100% St. Petersberg and Moscow people, who are modern educated Europeans otherwise but have been tamed into avoiding political issues for the last 20 years. The majority of Russians signing up for military service are bydlos from the rural undeveloped portions of Russia who have poor educations. They are nationalistic and sadly huge Putin and Russia United supporters.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >They are genuinely stupid
              That is what propaganda tells you and what you personally believe now. That means you are stupid in first place, my friend.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        grim

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        whats PPP

        anyone got a link for the article, tried to search it but didnt find shit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Poor people points that shitholes use to justify their state of things

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      imagine you are 80 IQ (not a big stretch) and someone comes to you and offers you 10k a month for joining the military. dont worry, you will only drive trucks or guard the border. no combat missions for you

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        First, this assumes they're allowed to lie. Big assumption. Recruiters can't make promises about what you'll do in the military that aren't factually accurate. Second, 80 IQ is well below average for an individual in society. There's no genetic difference between First and Third world that makes people smarter or dumber.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >First, this assumes they're allowed to lie. Big assumption.
          lmao

          >There's no genetic difference between First and Third world that makes people smarter or dumber.
          Malnutrition will absolutely lower IQ.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Malnutrition
            Which isn't genetic

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              No one ever said it was or claimed that 80 IQ Russians are moronic because of their genetics.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                no but they certainly dont help do they?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >First, this assumes they're allowed to lie. Big assumption.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That they are NOT lying is what would be a big assumption that flies in the face of all known facts.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Big assumption
          mmhmm yeah the effective and efficient checks and balances in the Russian system of governance will surely prevent lying

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >partial military mobilization

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Recruit Chinese, Africans, and Indians.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Poor Little Green Man

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >prisons
      >turdies
      >minorities within puccia they want to get rid off
      >all colonial provinces (everything outside muscovia and pidorsburg)
      >occupied clay (ukranians gang pressed into the occupier army)

      now keep in mind puccia itself is actually pretty tiny population wise. Pic very related. In the upcoming world war places like china cutting into their 1+ billion bodies is going to be the true apex of meat spam. Just by going the most undesirable part of the population pyramid (30 mil single men surplus) means they can spam something like a mid sized euro country before really digging into their potential

      thank god there are large bodies of water, mountains and deserts physically separating them from europe and north america. As inept they are even conventional weapons with huge power multiplier would have a hard time dealing with these asiatic swarms. Puccia already is draining the peacetime stockpiles to the point of depleting certain countries almost completely

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You see, when a sister and a brother suffer from severe alcoholism, mental deficiency and violent psychopathy...

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Outside of Moscow, St. Petersburg and other "large" cities in Russia, poverty is rampant, there is little to no hope of social elevation when you live in some small city in Siberia. Wages are low, you don't have luxuries, you live in rotting old commieblocks some don't even have running water.

      Then a military ad comes on your cheap chinese tv and offers to pay you essentially 4-5x your annual salary to go fight in Ukraine. To these poor fricks it's like winning the jackpot, only you have a huge chance to not come back alive, but life there is so bad and pitiful that you're willing to take the risk.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You conscript former servicemen who are now 45+ years old and are part of the general military reserve because they were 18 year old conscripts more than 25 years ago and call this "mobilization".

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      1. Have zero recruitment standards

      2. Resort to literal enslavement of immigrants (Russia actually had a lot of those from Africa and the former Soviet Republics prior to 2022) to obtain bodies

      3. Resort to Shanghaiing to obtain bodies after Number 2 runs out

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >20k a month
    You know remember that US total losses during Korea was 33k.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >You know remember that US total losses during Korea was 33k.
      Holy shit really? Nonwhites literally cannot fight it's crazy.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    they already went past the total casualties of italy in ww2 and are fast approaching japan's, by the end of 2024 i bet they'll scrape german's

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      the frick are you smoking those notches are 2mil each, even if we assume the 500k dead is dead rather than Dead + Crippled then it's still right around Romania not Japan. Depending on the mix of dead to wounded they will likely get past US/UK dead though.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >germany WW2 civilians
      why the frick do people b***h about dresden again? or the nukes? thats fricking small fries by comparison

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        if anything i'm surprised the british didn't have that many casualties, considering that in the early phases of the war london was routinely bombed by zeppelins

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >why the frick do people b***h about dresden again?

        Communism, unironically.

        The first country to start kvetching about the “genocidal bombing” of Dresden was East Germany.

        When you hear /misc/tards screaming about how the Allies murdered half-a-million civilians at Dresden (which is literally impossible because that would mean that the raid was nearly five times deadlier than Operation Meetinghouse and twice as deadly as the atomic bombings), they're regurgitating literal Communist propaganda.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          no it's because you really did murder half a million civilians israelite

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >you
            post foreskin, gentile

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It is quite literally PHYSICALLY impossible for Dresden to have resulted in half a million deaths. That would mean that the raid was five times deadlier than Operation Meetinghouse (the actual deadliest air raid of all time) and and nearly three times deadlier the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

            Cope and seethe about it Kraut.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, that's not strictly true. They pulled about 7500 bodies from the wreckage, estimated another 7500 as was standard for firestorms, and then Goebbels just kept raising the number every time he talked about it.
          >You forgot to put AA over Dresden, so the bombers were more effective than expected, about 15k people died.
          >150,000? What do you mean you killed 150,000 civilians?
          >Perfidious Albion deliberately targets 250,000 German citizens!
          >Ruthless English savages murder 500,000 beautiful Aryan children!
          >Winston Churchill is personally coming to castrate 5 million German men (yes, he actually claimed that the allies were going to do this), get in the trench and die for Monke!

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but these claims weren't really taken seriously by anyone until East Germany started publishing them, they entered the English-speaking world's public conciousness thanks to Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five (no fault on Vonnegut's part, he was simply repeating a statistic that he had no real way of knowing was completely bogus)

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just happy they are wasting their strenght on a country that on the grand scheme of things, doesnt matter. Their bullheaded stubborness to not pull out and let their own die makes it that I can live safely until I retire
    Thanks putt putt

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ukraine does matter, ukraine provides for grain for half of europe and the entirety of africa.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine is a shithole. With all things considered, this should have been a cakewalk. Yet they fricked it up.
        Russia is the only rogue element here in europe who had an impact. Now its gone. I'm glad. Every month they struggle is another year of peace for us

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine is a shithole.

          Because of over a century of mismanagement by the Russian empire, the catastrophe of the 2nd world war, the USSR, and then finally the Ukrainian oligarchs and their Russian handlers.

          Imagine, if say, Poland had elected nothing but Russian puppets from 1990 onwards? How would the country look? Russians want their puppet states to be weak so they can't threaten them militarily or to crack down on corruption, to be corrupt so they can get what they want, and to be subserviant.

          Make no mistake, this is Ukraine's War of Independence, the last Cold War battle or the kind of civil war we thought would happen when the USSR broke up. That it broke up as peacefully as it did was a total accident and because Gorbachev was a well meaning person (a rarity in Russian politics).

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You could say the same things about the baltics but they aren't nearly as corrupt

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Because most of the Baltics already jumped ship before russia get to recover their own influence apparatus. Ukraine was already too late to the game.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I have seen media claiming this is the final death throes of the Russian Empire, that the idea of the Empire never went away even with the Commuists, and it was just rebranded. It's collapse started after ww1, its died in the 90s and these are its final gasps. They made he point that most empires thoughout history have collapsed over the course of a century or so.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I will only believe it when the final imperial remnants that is current puccian "federation" start imploding. its currently composed of at least 22 republics and at the very minimum siberian colonial oblasts have to go. Puccias natural borders are the ural mountains to the east and caucasus mountains to the south. With its natural core heartland centered around the volga river network

              until then it will have periodic episodes of imperial schizophrenia trying to conquer and consume everything around it into its biomass. Like a cancer

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Puccias natural borders are the ural mountains to the east and caucasus mountains to the south.
                Lol, lmao
                There's nothing russian south of Don and Volga
                And even Urals are homeland to Fino-Ugrics muscovy conquered early on

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >And even Urals are homeland to Fino-Ugrics muscovy conquered early on
                Most of the land north of Moscow was Finno-Ugric at some point. Many still spoke their native languages when the Soviets started shipping in trainloads of political convicts to work the mines and smelters.
                After that the only common things they had there were the Russian language and being abused by Russia, which basically define Russian-ness, so they became Russians.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Country X is poor so it doesn't matter
          Shitty, moronic, materialist liberal point of view.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            No one cares you exist ivan and they never will. You might as well be african or indian or chinese.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              bold words from an anonymous poster. care to share your nationality with us, so that we can mock the subhuman shithole from whence you spawned?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              At this point Africa, India, China, and Iran have more dignity than the degenerate israelite owned western nations lmao. If I was a European or Muttmerica I'd be proud for once to be part of a nation that actually puts it's own people first instead of foreign """"refugees""""

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                don't push it rajesh, you're scum and you always will be. the fact that all you can do is seethe on an anime board for a couple rupees is testament to that.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                no they fricking dont rofl. idk if you're nonwhite or just a demoralized polhomosexual but I invite you, if you're a poltard, to go visit these shitholes. they don't have the opportunity to put anyone else before their own race because nobody wants to fricking live in those shitholes. No refugees are going to China because China is a poor shithole with half a billion people living like Africans.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not even European.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine is a shithole
          Yeah but not really? It's no more shithole than like 95% places in the States are. It's just "meh nothing special" kind of shithole rather than "holy frick get me out of here".

          Also you are clearly fricking clueless if you think Ukraine could've been a cakewalk for anyone at all. They had enough arms in the backyard to solo any of their neighbors besides russia, who had even more stored.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm just happy they are wasting their strength on a country that on the grand scheme of things, doesn't matter.

      Uh, Ukraine has the best port in the black sea, massive oil/gas reserves, a massive nuclear power plant, huge steel-making factories, huge amount of farming. EU + Ukraine = USA. You get the dense urban population centers, but also energy and food production. Likewise, Russia + Ukraine = Russian Empire for the same damn reasons.

      Peeling off Belarus and Ukraine would do so much to weaken the Russian position long-term.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what a load of crap.
        black sea ports dont matter, oil/gas pales in comparison to any other real oil/gas country, "massive nuclear plant" are you serious, who the frick cares, "steel-making" bullshit steel comes from india and china, and farming may be important for the third world but EU has enough farmland without ukraine. In all aspects except military EU is bigger or better than US, no need for ukraine for that
        no one gives a shit about ukraine, we just dont want russia to have it

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Prior to the russian invasion of crimea, Ukraine discovered large amount of natural resources reserves on their territory. Enough resources to compete with the Russian energy/oil market.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >black sea ports dont matter,

          Yes it does goof, it's the main means that Russia and Ukraine and Romania export their goods (water is the most efficient means to transport). Ukraine is the world's 8th largest iron and steel exporter, and it'd be a catastrophe if a Russian-China alliance were to gain these resources.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_production_in_Ukraine

          >oil/gas pales in comparison to any other real oil/gas country,

          Ukraine discovered massive oil/gas reserves in the east which is the exact area Russia sought to control. They wanted at least to cut out the competition and to grab it for themselves.

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/natural-resources-ukraine-war-1.6467039

          >and farming may be important for the third world but EU has enough farmland without ukraine. In all aspects except military EU is bigger or better than US, no need for ukraine for that

          Dumb Black person, this is like saying California and New York have a lot of farmland so we don't need the great plains. Yes we do! It's a lot more farmland of the cheap wheat that feed people. A lot of EU farming is heavily subsidized and overly expensive.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, its is all about resources, money and power, some kids here still talk about freedom, democracy, lgbt and other shit elites are fighting for

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Itd about both. Ukraine wanted to be independent from their own soviet past, while also want to be prosperous with the resources they have at hand.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >In all aspects except Military EU is bigger or better than the US
          kek
          >EU agriculture production in 2022: Little under $600 billion
          >US production in 2022: Little over $1.5 trillion
          To say nothing of the US economy in general being nearly double that of the EU economy at this point.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Cool story, bro.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He said bigger OR better. EU agriculture is better than stinky US agriculture, dummy.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It's cheaper to invest in than any of the Euro or local industries. Same reason why we went through the trouble of rebuilding post-WWII Europe in the first place. If we can turn inflation back by a single dollar, than Russia is a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >steel comes from india and china
          Low quality trash steel. High quality steel that you can use for important stuff comes from America, Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Japan being probably the best quality.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            modern japan steel is nice but most shit isn't made from it because they have to make what little steel they make autistically strong to build anything there. it's why paying for export japanese steel doesn't happen that much compared to everywhere else that makes it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >"massive nuclear plant" are you serious, who the frick cares
          Ukraine is the only country in Europe that has uranium deposits you colossal fricking buffoon.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine is a shithole. With all things considered, this should have been a cakewalk. Yet they fricked it up.
      Russia is the only rogue element here in europe who had an impact. Now its gone. I'm glad. Every month they struggle is another year of peace for us

      >Czechoslovakia doesn't matter.
      Room temperature IQ.
      If Ukraine didn't bother fighting, Russian troops (including press-ganged Ukrainians) would be on the French border now, if not the Atlantic coast.
      Likewise, if westcucks hadn't sold out Czechoslovakia in 1938, World War II simply would not have happened.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >If Ukraine didn't bother fighting, Russian troops (including press-ganged Ukrainians) would be on the French border now, if not the Atlantic coast.
        lmao

        Fantasies aside, the point was that Ukraine is not important in the grand scheme of things and whether Russia eventually wins or eventually loses, nothing will change for Americans. Russia is burning through their resources and military strength for something that doesn't really matter and regardless of whether they succeed or fail in taking Ukraine, the US will win.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >nothing will change for Americans
          And that's where you're dead wrong. Look, the idea of second-order effects is one that actually takes a little bit of actual thinking to understand, but that's a reasonable thing to ask, even from (You).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >nothing will change for Americans
        And that's where you're dead wrong. Look, the idea of second-order effects is one that actually takes a little bit of actual thinking to understand, but that's a reasonable thing to ask, even from (You).

        >Russian troops (including press-ganged Ukrainians) would be on the French border now
        the Russians can't defeat a slav army using limited numbers of secondhand NATO kit and a 6-week express course in NATO tactics, and you think they can defeat actual long-service NATO troops with all the arsenal of the regular forces?

        the EU has more operational combat jets than Russia, moron.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >muh slav army
          Uh huh. Nice canned talking point, Indiana vatBlack person. Kys.

          Also, nice strawman argument. Again, kys.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >you're a vatBlack person if you think Russians suck, can't plough through Poland and Germany, and would be utterly crushed by NATO
            WDHMBT

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian troops (...) would be on the French border now
        You cannot actually believe this shit

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >World War II simply would not have happened.
        what is the vatnik union and invading east europe. vatniks started the war with the germans along with italy and japan

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >putin said

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >jeet source
    >unlinked screenshot
    Got a distasteful feeling about this thread.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's quite an admission confirming a quarter million dead per year. Whether they are lying and lowballing or being accurate with Ukraine inflating the numbers a little bit really doesn't matter at this point. That is a huge number no matter what.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      personally i think monke doesn't lie, or at least he lies less frequently than his subjects. something i've seen from his reaction to the kursk disaster, where he angrily defenestrated every navy crook that lied to him. i think he's honest not because he likes to be honest, but because he thinks he's untouchable and nobody would ever dare to challenge him.
      >yeah you worthless peasants, half a million died in the trenches squirming like worms, what are you gonna do about it?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Thats the old Russian tradition of the Tsars infallibility. Putin is the one ultimately who operated the Navy on a dangerously low budget, he was the one who stayed on holidays when the disaster happened, he was the one who decided western assistance and he was the one in charge when the windows were being sedated for asking questions.
        And if he gets any blowback at all for finally admitting the western estimate of casualties was basically correct, he will do the same thing and blame Shoigu for not telling him sooner.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's 20K casualties, not KIA. Ukraine's estimates are around 30K per month so these would be the lowest versus highest estimates. If you assume 3:1 casualty to kill ratio you get something like 150K dead total. Also note this is ALL Russian aligned forces, which includes all the Ukrainian militias, Wagner, foreign mercenaries, and so forth. It's not just Russian army losses proper.

      Russia has lost about as many men as they went into the war but it doesn't mean that the original army is gone because mobiks, convicts, and Ukrainian militias were used as meat shields to protect professional soldiers.

      He is saying that westerners already volunteering without looking for monetary gain. Russia has to offer monetary compensation(like the equivalent of a McDonald’s worker salary in the west) to entice people from third world countries to fight for them.

      >He is saying that westerners already volunteering without looking for monetary gain.

      They get paid like 40K USD a year, and strictly speaking by definitions they are mercenaries. Mercs carries negative connotations, but they are contract soldiers.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >They get paid like 40K USD a year, and strictly speaking by definitions they are mercenaries. Mercs carries negative connotations, but they are contract soldiers.
        Not necessarily, most of them get paid the same salary as regular soldiers in Ukraine. The foreign volunteer system never advertised itself to be for monetary gain, which is something russia advertised with wagner and now to their regular conscription soldier. Sometimes they even force foreign migrants to join the Russian military or get deported back to their shithole.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The definition of a merc is that they are primarily motivated by monetary gain, people are not leaving their first world countries to die for a mcdonald's worker salary.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >A mercenary, also called a merc, soldier of fortune, or hired gun, is a private individual who joins an armed conflict for personal profit, is otherwise an outsider to the conflict, and is not a member of any other official military.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercenary

          They are literally mercs not volunteers. The people who fought with Kurdish forces against Islamic State were volunteers since Kurdish militias were not rich enough to pay people, but Ukraine absolutely are paying people. 40K USD a year isn't amazing, bu tit's something. Joe MacDonald (UK fighter) says he actually spends much of his salary on his own gear and squad. It's enough money to entice foreigners from Latin America though.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >40k per year
            They get paid 36k per year, the same salary that the average UA soldiers gets

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              The sources and vlogs I've seen have said "around 40K" and 36 rounded up is 40K so it's not a huge difference. But the point is that they're paid something and this at the very least makes it more viable for Westerners to go, and it can entice thirdies too. There's a bunch of Latin American fighters in Ukraine and you periodically see RIP notices for Brazillian fighters.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The main thing is that its not advertised as such. The foreign volunteer system is merely something that you can join for a cause regardless of monetary compensation. The russian military, however, advertised through and through about paying foreigners and even domestic citizens 2k per month if they join up, whether they actually pay them is another issue, but third worlders get inticed because its advertised as a big payday in their own standards. The average pay for a Russian conscript is roughly 300-900 per month.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The difference between volunteer and mercenary is very well defined and it doesn't mean you're doing it for free. If you volunteer to fight for the US in some conflict and the US pays you the exact same salary an American soldier of the same rank receives you're a volunteer. Ukraine pays its volunteer the same salary front line troops get.

            https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-convention-against-recruitment-use-financing-and
            >1. A mercenary is any person who:
            >b. Is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar rank and functions in the armed forces of that party;

            This is why Russia's entire point of treating foreign volunteers like mercenaries is moot because by definition as ratified by the UN General Assembly they're not mercs.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >joins an armed conflict for personal profit
            You could make more working an entry level job in your home country.
            Unless the plan is to stay in Ukraine to enjoy the cheaper cost of living, you're not making a profit by serving Ukraine. You're actually losing money.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You dumb frick, foreigners in the Ukraine military are official servicemen as part of their official organized armed forces units both in the "International Legion" which is a branch of the Territorial Defense Forces and otherwise part of the regular Ground Forces or Marines.

            See this part?
            >and is not a member of any other official military
            Mercenaries aren't part of official military forces.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Foreign volunteers get paid ~$3k/month which is roughly the same as what a Ukie front line troops makes. Because of this they are not mercenaries by law since mercenaries are defined as:
        >c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >It's 20K casualties, not KIA
        It says "losing an estimated 20,000 LIVES a month"

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Even Ukraine is not claiming that, and if they killed 20K a month how would there even be a Russian army? They are saying the culmulative daily losses for Russian forces as of now are 518K (casualties, deserters, captured, killed).

          3:1 casualties to wounded = 172,853 KIA Russians
          3:1 Russians killed to Ukrainians = 57,617 KIA Ukrainians

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Even Ukraine is not claiming that, and if they killed 20K a month how would there even be a Russian army?
            26 months x 20k dead = 520k
            keep in mind, you probably have around 100k mercs and who knows how many DRP and whatever too.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              No, not even Ukraine is claiming to have killed 518K, just that 518 is the cumulative daily losses. An individual could in theory appear multiple times: gets captured, returned, then wounded, then killed.

              >3:1 Russians killed to Ukrainians
              why would it be so low after russian meat waves and whatever the frick they are doing right now?
              finns managed double that back in the day

              I'm just going by what I've heard, and the youtubers who talk to soldiers in Ukraine say it averages out to 3:1. When you get intense house to house fighting like in the latter half of Bakhmut you get 1:1 casualties. When Russia is on the offensive in Kharkiv I'm hearing the estimates are 5:1 or even 6:1. But overall it averages out to 3:1.

              Just keep in mind Ukrainians are not super-human so they are taking losses. The 3:1 and 3:1 ratios are just rough estimates to give some idea, not accurate numbers. Zelenskyy said 30K dead at the start of the year.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                what exacly is your point vatnik? is this some sort of new program?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >3:1 Russians killed to Ukrainians
            why would it be so low after russian meat waves and whatever the frick they are doing right now?
            finns managed double that back in the day

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              because ukraine is frequently running (idiotic) counter-offensives like robotyne, avdiivka or now kharkiv
              also the more sensible and successful offensives like kherson certainly cost them a lot of casualties
              in this kind of war the advantage of the defender is huge

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >in this kind of war the advantage of the defender is huge
                and yet ukraine on the defensive for like 2 years managed only 3:1?
                btw, someone i know was on the defense of bakhmut and he told me their losses were not that bad. like, they were pretty bad compared to anything else before that but nothing horrific(he told me numbers but i'm not gonna post them).
                anyway, you're wrong it's way more than that.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >because ukraine is frequently running (idiotic) counter-offensives like robotyne, avdiivka or now kharkiv
                completely wrong.
                robotyne was over a year ago and Ukraine recently left it after the position became untenable, avdiivka was given up similarly, both quite unlike the attrition of Bakhumt. Kharkiv has some marginal fighting going on along the Vovchansk axis, but this is no grand counter-offense.

                The ratio is probably around 1:11, realistically speaking, given Russia has been in a state of continual offensive operations for over a year.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, not even Ukraine is claiming to have killed 518K, just that 518 is the cumulative daily losses. An individual could in theory appear multiple times: gets captured, returned, then wounded, then killed.

                [...]
                I'm just going by what I've heard, and the youtubers who talk to soldiers in Ukraine say it averages out to 3:1. When you get intense house to house fighting like in the latter half of Bakhmut you get 1:1 casualties. When Russia is on the offensive in Kharkiv I'm hearing the estimates are 5:1 or even 6:1. But overall it averages out to 3:1.

                Just keep in mind Ukrainians are not super-human so they are taking losses. The 3:1 and 3:1 ratios are just rough estimates to give some idea, not accurate numbers. Zelenskyy said 30K dead at the start of the year.

                https://i.imgur.com/Cqwt8bc.png

                85% of Ukies todays army just bums, alcoholics and old timers

                god damn, we have some smart shills in here today.
                Where are the usual brown skins?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You mean the "idiotic" counter-offensives that have seen/are seeing the ziggers getting slaughtered 5:1 and worse?

                >also the more sensible and successful offensives like kherson certainly cost them a lot of casualties
                Kharkiv cost them next to nothing LMAO.

                >in this kind of war the advantage of the defender is huge
                And yet it is objectively dwarfed by the advantage of not being the Russian Armed Forces.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            nope
            One of RU talking heads over 6 months ago stated that they counted over 300k obituaries for dead soldiers.

            Moreover, there are quite a few prisoners allocated to the war effort (population down to 266k from ~443k at the last count, at an unnatural pace of decline). ~100k are estimated as being 'consumed' for the war effort, and this last year.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Bring proofs, post source, otherwise it is just fart in the puddle, m8

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >can't google an article by title
                this is how I know you're a lazy Black person
                >https://archive[DOT]ph/CAIeD

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Even your very pic source says the personnel losses is KIA.

            >3:1 Russians killed to Ukrainians
            Okay, and? Actual rate is 5-10:1 in Ukraines favour.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >They get paid like 40K USD a year
        They get paid the same as Ukraine regulars and serve in Ukraine units under Ukraine command. They are not mercenaries.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        first worlders wipe their ass with 40k a year, they're not motivated to risk their lives for that paltry amount, they're motivated by the opportunity to kill russians (universally recognized as a good deed)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Mercs carries negative connotations, but they are contract soldiers.
        Not if you run a Merc Company in Mechwarrior 5, hehe.

        Putin said Russia loses 5,000 dead per month. That's the direct quote. 5,000 DEAD per month. Everyone has been taking that 5,000 dead figure and adding 15,000 wounded, because death/wounded ratio is about 1:3 typically.

        Even that were the case is catastrophic as we are talking more than 100,000 russians killed since the war begun. And ukraine would still have millions of fighting men, enough to prolong this for years.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when the russia MoD wouldn't admit to couple thousand casualties? This frog is being boiled good.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Putin didn't say anything of the sort. What he actually said:

    1) Ukraine loses 50,000 men per month, both irrecoverable and sanitary losses, i.e. total casualties included wounded, KIA, etc.

    2) The ratio of their wounded to irrecoverable/KIA is 50/50, which means out of 50k, 25k of them are actually irrecoverable losses.

    3) Ukraine mobilizes 30,000 new men per month from the street.

    4) The ratio between Russian and Ukrainian losses is 1:5 in favor of Russia.

    5) The ratio of POWs is 1,348 to 6,465 in favor of Russia.

    Note how the article you posted didn't address any of those points, and engaged in conjectures based on author's interpretation of something Putin didn't even say. Surely it would make sense to present Putin's actual words and then debooonk them point by point. Unless you can't debunk them. Unless he is, in fact, correct.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >1/5
      Thats still 100k per year.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Putin said Russia loses 5,000 dead per month. That's the direct quote. 5,000 DEAD per month. Everyone has been taking that 5,000 dead figure and adding 15,000 wounded, because death/wounded ratio is about 1:3 typically.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Putin said Russia loses 5,000 dead per month. That's the direct quote.
        You've managed to lie three times in two sentences. You should be a journalist

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Stupid frick.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            the 5,000 figure is acceptable but everything after that is double-counting conjectures
            >statistically 3 WIA to 1 KIA
            conjectural and varies; see for example US casualties in Iraq
            >The real number may
            conjectural
            >be many times higher
            layering conjecture on conjecture

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >US casualties in Iraq = meat waves in bakhmut
              conjecture bordering on conjuring

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                that's my point, frickwit; meat waves in Bakhmut could well have caused a higher proportion of KIA than the traditional 3:1 ratio, so it's fallacious to assume that 1 Russian KIA = 3 more WIA when it could, for example, easily have been a 1:1 ratio i.e. a higher death rate, therefore 1 KIA would only yield 1 more WIA

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >US casualties in Iraq
              You just begging for comparision between this war and USA invasion of Iraq

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                fine, pick any other fricking E X A M P L E you want then

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            this is just picking and choosing from a known liar with some napkin math to fit their narrative
            nice "source"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >lists points they made up in their head after reading the article
      >why doesn’t the article address these points?
      You’re a moronic baby

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >nexta
        You didn't provide a quote though. You're citing a twitter account. Do you know what a 'direct quote' is? Putin didn't say that 5:1 is the number of the dead, just the total losses. Not all 'losses' are dead. Obviously not something immediately apparent to the morons nexta and the troony that would cite that shit as a reputable source. Russia’s irrecoverable losses are far smaller than that of Ukraine. The higher proportion of KIA to wounded on Ukraine's side comes from Ukraine’s comparative lack of available hospitals and available helicopters & other transports, which causes far more wounded to die, not to mention Russia’s usage of airstrikes/glide bombs which proportionally simply kills far more soldiers outright.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Im not the original guy you’re shitting and pissing with so idk what you’re talking about
          I’m also not reading all of that

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Im not the original guy
            So you're mediocre even at being a moron

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They know he's lying but explaining the lie is not an interesting story so instead they went with this speculative bullshit as though it means something. It's actually lending credence to what he says but they don't care because they just want the clicks.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's always fricking hard to tell with Russia because human life has less value there

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    this man has killed half a million Russians and you guys don't think he's based? Sure he may be a CIA asset, but killing Russians is always based.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, with half the moronation that damn dirty ape pulled off so far, a lot of anons have asserted he must be doing it on purpose

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    85% of Ukies todays army just bums, alcoholics and old timers

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And they're kicking your ass Dmitri. Never forget to mention that they're kicking your ass.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's a lie, but if it weren't, wouldn't that just make the fact that they're kicking your teeth in more embarrassing?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      and russia is losing to THIS?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        And they're kicking your ass Dmitri. Never forget to mention that they're kicking your ass.

        that's a lie, but if it weren't, wouldn't that just make the fact that they're kicking your teeth in more embarrassing?

        Classique predictable defense by bots in this ITT thread. Not the best, i assume. Try harder next time or you loose ur payment!

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >le infinite pro ukie = bots cope
          you need to face reality, the whole world hates you
          democracy does not require state funded troll farms

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Russian shills are in overdrive today. I guess the SU-57 is a write off then.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And yet they're exterminating the Russian Army 5-10:1. Sure makes you think how bad the Russians are, eh?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        hmmm, that's why men in ukraine paying 10-15k to leave the coutry, drowning in Tisa river on border with Romania and walks thru mountains.
        That's why we have 1000s of videos where people in uniform grabbing poor men on a street.
        That's why mostly old man in Ukr army.

        And Russians just sign contracts, lol.

        Yeah, i totaly believe in your bullshit)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          ESL.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And yet Russia was one that suffered a coup because of this war

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            > yet Russia was one that suffered a coup
            WUT?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I’m sorry I meant coup attempt

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          sorry zigger, but 2 years later, you still don't get to spin military police arresting people as videos of conscription.
          we do have videos of this happening to russians where they verbally proclaim as much though.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >military police arresting people

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You've been trying to push arrests as conscription for years now, and you've never managed to provide context. I don't know what possesses your stupid ass to keep trying.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Who’s that?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >)

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >average daily
    >1500
    homie you think ukraine is a superpower or something?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No, just that they are lopsidedly slaughtering ziggers, to the tune of 1000-1500 a day. It evidently doesn't take a superpower to do that.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    America was in Afghanistan for 20 years and only lost 2K soldiers. 20K a month is crazy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Tbf your average American's life is worth significantly more than your average Russian's life.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If by lost they mean dead then it also eclipses both America's Nam deaths and Soviet Union's Afghan war by a significant amount. Current Russia can't survive these losses even if they win.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Current Russia can't survive these losses even if they win.
        That’s why Russia is pushing for Visa free travel between them and India

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >lose your male population to HIMARS and draft-dodging
          >let Poos and Chings redeem your women out of birthrate desperation
          Grim. Miserable, even.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >you solve your birthrate, but now liveleak logos and escalators are stalking the Russian cities and disrupting the ecosystem
              There's no winning this.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Muscovy once again becomes slaves to Asians
              Retvrning to tradition.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder what the market rates for teenage Russian mail order brides are now

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'd rather a Ukie. I want a wife who can birth winners.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                god i want russian gf so bad. their males may be ugly vulgar pidors, but russian women are objectively the most beautiful in the world

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You don't want a russian GF. They are obsessed with money and status. They have to have the most expensive clothing you can't even afford and will leave you the second someone with more money comes around or someone with more social status (like a popular musician or artist).

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >All 90 millions girls obsessed with money and status
                Virgin talk detected

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Well, obviously not all of them. But russian women are notorious for being heartless gold diggers to an extreme degree. Especially the ones who leave russia to look for men with deeper pockets.
                As a general rule, stay away from russian women. The majority of them are just horrible people who'll steal your money and frick up your life.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                oh no you're moronic.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                that's okay, I just want to hatefrick and drown them in cum while screaming SLAVA UKRAINI anyway

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'd rather a Ukie. I want a wife who can birth winners.

                Eastern European women are the leaders in fraudulent marriages. The extract as much wealth as they can and leave.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I know one Russian girl. She lives in the US now. She is an 11/10 and quite honestly the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life. More beautiful than any model or actress to ever exist. She once dreamed that we got married and she told me it would make her extremely happy to get married to me and wanted to have sex all the time. But she lived in fricking russia at the time so it was the biggest tease in the world.

              Though she use to be a huge cam prostitute and got her first job by sleeping with the guy that owned the studio. He was like 40, married with 2 kids and she was 17. She absolutely destroyed that marriage.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                pics or gtfo

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I would but it would doxx both of us. in the late 2000s she was a popular camprostitute that uploaded CP of herself and has ended up with a ton of stalkers because of it.

                I didn't know she was a camprostitute when I first met her. I found out later. I just feel special that at one point she actually wanted to marry me after talking for a year. Then I just found out she just goes from one famous guy to the next so I wasn't so special.

                But man is she the best thing to come out of russia ever. She's denounced russia since the war on ukraine and posts that russia is a terrorist state now..

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Best thing to come out of Russia
                >Acts like a "Russian trad wife" ie, a pornstar that only cares about material things
                Yeah, sounds about right.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >When you find out her husband is in air defense

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The rate of exterminated Russians is increasing too. I hope within year and a half we can get to one million KIA Russians.

    We're getting closer to a better world, one dead Russian at a time.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >but OP they're the casualties not the KiAs
    In the image you posted, it specifically said lives and not casualties.
    This is KIAs, which would line up with Ukrainians number actually since those are casualties and would mean a 1:1 KIA to WIA rate

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >i'd say?
    and what the frick would YOU know?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I was paraphrasing moviebob and nobody in this thread caught the reference.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I got it.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It will be interesting to see what happens if they kill enough of the men. Russian society run by women will probably be much better. Women are better at being wage slaves, you really only need a few men around to do the dirty and dangerous stuff.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >It will be interesting to see what happens if they kill enough of the men.
      the less influental mafia clans will take over

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If they're foreigner troops or other ethnicities, they're not russian losses.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'd love to see a merc only army of meatbags for russia next year. It'll be hilarious to see how they coordinate a rabble of scammed subhumans that don't even understand basic russian

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Is that deaths or does it include injuries? So they would be 480,000 death by now if that's the case. So actual casualties(injuries + deaths) is probably 800,000 at least

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >So they would be 480,000 death by now if that's the case.

      Casualties. note that Ukraine claims 520K casualties, so this basically lines up.

      They know he's lying but explaining the lie is not an interesting story so instead they went with this speculative bullshit as though it means something. It's actually lending credence to what he says but they don't care because they just want the clicks.

      Because putin is trying to engage in spin, and by engaging in spin he ends up admitting to information that confirms a lot of other sources about Russian casualties.

      Even your very pic source says the personnel losses is KIA.

      >3:1 Russians killed to Ukrainians
      Okay, and? Actual rate is 5-10:1 in Ukraines favour.

      "losses" is losses by all means (wounded in action, killed in action, surrendered, etc).

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      both Ukraine and Russia use the Soviet system whereby deaths, maiming and any injury causing a soldier to be permanently invalided (e.g. incurable nerve damage) are all considered one category, "200". treatable injuries (with the expectation that they can eventually return to combat) are "300".
      so Soviet "200s" and NATO "KIAs" (deaths only) don't necessarily match up.

      frick knows what figure Putin is referencing, but it is unlikely to be "KIA", whatever it is. may be 200, or may be both 200 + 300.

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's not small at all. The Soviet Union was much better than this in their last war. This makes Vietnam America look good.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    500k dead ziggers hahahahahaha

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's a fairly small amount of mobiks for an average Russian war. The main reason conscripts grow so fast and "die so quickly" is that there isn't much value in them. If I were a Ukrainian, I wouldn't WANT to kill half a million Russians, but I could easily.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    one can understand now the russians' interest over 40k. they are THE imperium of man, a theocratic totalitarian mafia state ruled by violence and superstition, where corruption and backwardness run rampant, and millions are thrown daily to the meatgrinder for the sake of brutal survival

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >At this point Africa, India, China, and Iran have more dignity than the degenerate israelite owned western nations lmao. If I was a European or Muttmerica I'd be proud for once to be part of a nation that actually puts it's own people first instead of foreign """"refugees""""

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's crazy that we're probably never going to get comprehensive and accurate mortality reporting on Russian forces in this war. Even if some future regime in Moscow were interested in sharing, I doubt anybody is really keeping track now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Every dead is tracked, its 21st century.
      Later information will be given on both sides, be patient

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a version of that copypasta about the mcdonalds?

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    More dead Russians and angry brownoids from /misc/ are good things

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. All /misc/tards should hang. And all Russians too

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    lol third worlders seething ITT. Both sides of my family have been Americans since the early 1800s. My heritage goes back almost as far as the US has been a country.

    I've even got a job that spreads american culture throughout the world since I'm an artist in the video game industry. Russians and the Chinese play the games I help make. Yet I have never played a russian or chinese game in my life. Hell, or even seen a russian or chinese movie or book. Your culture doesn't matter to the rest of the world.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    When a Russian WIA gets out of a hospital, and still can walk and hold a rifle he's being sent back to the frontline, so actual casualty rate might be lower cause the same people can get wounded multiple times

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I can't find this 20,000 number attributed to him.
    I think I found someone saying he said 5k dead and then inferring the usual 1:3 killed:injured ratio to get 20,000.

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Neat way of saying half a million, so w/e

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >US deaths in the entire Vietnam war is 58,220
    >US deaths in the entire korean war is 36,000
    >Russia has 20,000 deaths A MONTH while only 2 years into war
    what the absolute frick

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      and they are still winning, unlike the US who lost in Vietnam and Korea

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Winning all the way to Odesa, huh? How’s that recapture of Kherson city going? You know, the one major metro they captured then retreated from with their tail between their legs - how much ground has Russia won on the other riverbank so far?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        No the US brought peace with honor to Vietnam

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Be honest with me /k/ how fricked are Russia demographics after this is all over? Will the rural areas be massive ghost towns?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The good news: They can easily replace their dead with men from places like Uzbekistan, DRC, Niger etc.
      The bad news: as above.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      russia is already a chinese client state, so probably a lot of Mongolians

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >so probably a lot of Mongolians

        Actually not so much, Mongolia is unironically one of the more democratic post-Soviet states and it's a major NATO partner

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Revolution_of_1990

        As much as we enjoy slandering Russians as Mongol rapebabies or having an Asiatic mindset, actual Mongols are both more peaceful and democratic than Russia today.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it's possible that they will drop down to pajeet tier quality of life and thus end up breeding like pajeets to bung up the numbers again, but that will take decades of course

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        that theory is stifled by the weather theory anon. russians live in a cold shithole and not a warm one. they will only breed like rabbits if the czar tells them too, not out of choice.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Will? They already are.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually over.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The good news: They can easily replace their dead with men from places like Uzbekistan, DRC, Niger etc.
      The bad news: as above.

      It's actually over.

      It's literally ogres from now on

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >27 months into special 3-Day Anti-Cartel Operation in Mexico
    >Joe Biden admits the US Forces are losing a division monthly

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >battle of Okinawa losses every other month
    >not even advancing, just maintaining the line
    >this is fine

    I guess in shithole countries like russia and china its no big deal

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They are advancing, just not a whole lot. A treeline a day at best on small parts of the front.

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