>2030's
>Most middle powers have replaced their tanks with K2's because of US and German export license autism
>This expands further into IFV's, APC's, Artillery, Fighters, and Drones
>Korea, Turkey, Poland joint development establishes dominance of arms export market
>Mid-century resource conflicts in Africa are using surplus Korean shit
Name a more kino outcome
>turkish joint development
I think a more kino development would be the turkish state collapsing.
This
>bands of rebels form, armed with domestically produced Turkish shotguns and rifles
>the civil war lasts for years, but casualty figures are low due to the poor reliability and construction of firearms
Just secede western Anatolia with Constantinople into a non-moron kemalist secular state, throw all islamists out of it, and let it join EU. I don't care what happens to the rest.
>secede western Anatolia with Constantinople into a non-moron kemalist secular state, throw all islamists out of it
Bro have you ever been to Istanbul? Theres a Hagia Sofia ripoff mini mosque literally every 100 meters in every direction.
>secede western Anatolia with Constantinople into a non-moron kemalist secular state
And then they will genocide greeks because thats what non-moron kemalist secularists like to do.
This is why I'm convinced the federal government secretly contracted George Kellgren to design the TEC-9.
>I think a more kino development would be the turkish state collapsing.
Based. Never forget what they took from you.
>A few days afterward, a fire destroyed the Greek and Armenian quarters of the city, while the Turkish and israeli quarters remained undamaged. On the Turkish side the events are known as the Liberation of İzmir, while on the Greek side as Catastrophe of Smyrna.
OYYYY VEYYYY
I hate Turks so fricking much it's unreal
>A few days afterward, a fire destroyed the Greek and Armenian quarters of the city, while the Turkish and israeli quarters remained undamaged.
This is literal Greek propaganda, around half the city was destroyed including Turkish and israeli parts. Not to mention that the fire started in the part which was controlled by Greeks at the time.
Turkey shouldn't exist.
Turkish people are the whole reason why Balkan rapebays and gayarabs did not ape out
Turkish people were the reason they were even a problem in the first place. The Byzantines had several treaties with the Arabs.
Unfortunately, the Turkic mercenaries the Byzantines hired betrayed the Byzantines at Manzikert. They switched sides to the Seljuks, their relatives, right before the battle started. This is how Anatolia was won by the Seljuk Turks.
?t=2050
This. Frick turkey and their wannabe sultan erDOGan
Balkan rape baby hands typed these posts.
>Hurr durr anyone who hates Turkey is a Gayreek, Armeniacuck, or a Balkanoid
Hating Turkey is the rational choice of anyone who isn't a subhuman roach
Turks are White Caucasians who learned the blessings of Allah and got rid of the oliveBlack folk, Arabs and enslaved blacks.
I fail to see how they are not based.
The only non based thing they do is kill fellow whites (kurds) when they should be assisting them in setting up a kurdish state to piss off all the dune coons.
>Turks are White Caucasians
Look everyone, he thinks he's people. How quaint.
It gave me pleasure that my ancestors dabbed on dead infidel greeks in Constantinople
Yeah most Turkish people are alright, but the state and its supporters are Russian tier insufferable. Would be much cooler to have Byzantium and ottomans again
>ottomans again
How about no.
The state represents the people.
No, I am the State.
I will never understand fashion.
You will never live with style.
No, I prefer practicality and comfort over style.
europeans were always gays. israelites arent sissifying them like /misc/ believes.
israeli nepotism is more based than german cronyism. europeans unironically cannot comprehend they tried to genocide the israelites, who then took over world financial institutions and STILL put in the effort to save them.
>byzantium
>REEEEE die heretic!!!
FRICK NO, putting that rotting corpse of an empire in its grave was pretty much the only based thing the Ottomans ever did.
Same here. My prob with Turkey is mostly with Turkish president Erdogan
you sound greek. we dont like gays on /k/ papadopulos.
>t. salty spongepicking Black person
t. Greekoid
Dronemaxxing followed by paperclippification
>This expands further into IFV's, APC's
Nah, Patrias and CV90s will own that market.
Based Scandis
South Korea should just sign a deal to sell a couple hundred K1 or K2 tanks to Ukraine and deliver them within a month. Just to flex on the Krauts.
Red pill:
K2 isn't much better than T-64-derived tank with bustle-mounted autoloader, transmission with reverse gears, modern armor and electronics.
Red pill:
K2 is substantially better than the M1a2sep3 and Leopard 2A7, everything is thirdie tier garbage, this is being proven out in the market
Aren’t the Swedes quite fussy about what their arms are used for? It’s the bongs who are known to be extremely unbothered about their weapons being used for war crimes.
>because of US and German export license autism
What are you talking about? The US will export the M1 to almost anyone if they can can afford it and they're not on America's usual shitlist.
Pretty sure the US and Germany have the same rules around exporting their tanks, need final approval from them to transfer to a third party.
Literally everyone has that rule. You moronic? And the US doesn't give a frick as long as you tell then you're pointing their weapons at Muslims or communists.
Not Korea
Yes, they do. You cannot buy a South Korean tank and then sell it to North Korea.
That's like the one exception
>itt, asiatics actually believe this
No. That's the norm. You can't sell it on to anybody without asking them first.
These threads are made by a seething kimchi, just ignore them
Not a seething. Burgers and Krauts have been known for red tapes on their arms for decades now.
>Name a more kino outcome
The norks level the whole peninsula
If you think about it, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Asian countries like Japan and Korea basically outpaced Europeans in every major industry from computers to phones to even cars. So it's not really surprising Korea after successfully dominating so many other markets won't also dominate the arms industry. If you're already using a Korean phone and driving a Korean car why not buy a Korean tank as well?
Koreans yes, but japanese are still stuck in the 1980s and many euro countries are wat ahead by now
Korea is so tied to the US(and US industry) that they might as well be a US colony with an asian coating. If you think America isn't getting a cut of korean exports somehow you're insane. It's why Korean goods sell so well in the US, they have near-zero tarrifs because they invest in american companies just as often.
That's a smart move though. The US offered something similar to Europe during Obama 2013 but the leftist threw a hissyfit and when Trump got elected killed the entire thing cause orange man bad. Now Korea and the US are making loads of money while European industries are dying.
The only US inner circle nations:
Asia: South Korea
Europe: UK
Middle East: Israel
Others: Australia, Canada
Canada will likely be demoted to gay baby jail with other unreliables at this rate. They'll get good treatment politically and economically, but they won't get privileged tech access nor intelligence sharing, because they cannot be trusted with it.
You missed japan. They get access to several weapons that only other the bongs or aussies are allowed to have
Wrong. Japan got nuked by the US, they are on a tight leash and any jap will tell you they secretly harbor massive butthurt resentment towards the US, similar to many arabs and germans, this is a sentiment that the US is acutely aware of
Damn, that must be why they incorporated a shit ton of ingerishu into their everyday language and most of their media is full of random stuff in English. Japs love Amerikangs, they do hate weebshits like you though
Lol nips have the lowest english language proficiency in the world, not just asia, in the entire world, rando african nations and even ccp china speak english better, i’m part nip, my nip relatives fricking hate the us but rarely speak about it unless it comes up in private
US is by far the most competitive market to sell products, only the best are able to survive, that’s why there are no french or romanian cars on the road, US consumers would never buy garbage when there is a choice to buy the best
France tried to break into the US market before only to fail. Italians are trying but outside of it's-shit-on-purpose supercars are kind of a wet fart.
Americans buy American, Japanese, Korean, and German. German took a big hit with the VW emissions scandal though.
Fa-50 is literally a Lockheed Shartin product.
LM accounts for only a fraction out of the entire share of the project, like about 10%. The rest belongs to KAI, which is why it is able to let Egypt license produce it by hundreds.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/egypts-aoi-confirms-agreement-to-produce-south-korean-jet-trainers
Not really.
About 70% of Korean export is directed towards China.
Their whole diplomatic strategy is to befriend all America, Russia, and China thereby isolating North Koreans.
This has obviously and ulitmately failed, but my point still stands: S. Koreans have deeper "economical" ties with China than the US.
Not to mention the fact that they have been borrowing Russian missile technologies for their own space programs.
This also goes well with the fact that both Russians and Chinese are keen on keeping Korea aligning with Japan and the US, so they are more lenient on such issues, whereas the US would restrict them from researching any long range strike capabilities.
That being said, it could be said South Koreans are only outsourcing security issues to the US. Their goods are superior and sold all over the world, not limited to America. And China is where the money (bulk of the population) is at.
I worded it poorly. My point was Japan showed how you can outpace Europeans even if they got lazy and stagnated. Korea then took lessons from it and began aggressive expansion whenever possible not stopping ever. China will likely take this even further but they're not even at the phones and cars stage. Euros (Scandinavia excluded) meanwhile survive exclusively on legacy industries and contracts. They refuse to innovate and similarly to the Japanese feel like the world is ever unchanging. The Japanese got their rude awakening earlier and so will the Euros soon.
Well maybe the Germans and Mutts are right.
Add a Japan that can freely export arms to that list.
Japanese weapons are too expensive. They won’t be able to compete on the international market.
Lol nobody is buying japan weapons they have tried to export for years and probably sell less than india or a random sudaca nation
George Friedman predicted this.
Friedman had the super power of seeing that Euros are Full of shit lazy commies.
Nope, he said it would be Japan, not South Korea, who will be the leader of the East. And he (and Zeihan too) predicted that Russia would conquer Ukraine before it collapses, and yet Ukraine stands, and the West is afraid of Russian collapse because of muh nooks.
He clearly said the Ukraine on its own, not with support from the west
>Russian collapse
Let's be real here, why would russia collapse when their citizen currently have common enemies? Foreign war is proven to be able to distract the population from current problem inside those nation.
That merely delays the collapse and makes it hit harder one it does. Making things worse for them, not better.
Russia has no exit from its current state.
>korean troony asiaticshit pavel cope army
that could actually happend. but im afraid turkey is cancer whe it comes to cooperations
I think the K2 is probably the tank of choice for somewhat well of third and second world nations. It’s certainly decent bang for the buck. Especially, if you can’t afford the real deal. Turkey and Poland are probably going with it in the future and other second world nations will likely follow.
K2 demolished Leo2a7 in Norwegian trials. The only tank that can claim to be better is Abrams
Cool story bro.
They couldn’t even build any somewhat solid gear without license until recently. It’s okay, but not a great tank. Leos and Abrahams are equal. They each do have individual issue, but both much better than the K2. Tanks won’t be such a big thing in the future. Hence the cheap option comes in handy for the second world. Where the expensive and maintenance intensive, but much better choice isn’t available.
>They couldn’t even build any somewhat solid gear without license until recently.
What? Korea has had its own 3rd gen tank designs since 88 onwards.
Also, it's a well known fact that the Poles decided to binge buy K2 after the Norges shared their test results.
>poles bought K2
They want anything at the moment and they weren’t really able to handle the Leo. You need money and highly trained intelligent people to operate them. The poles only got both form other countries. They couldn’t buy anything without EU money.
Here educate yourself on the many issues with the K2.
https://news.yahoo.com/south-korea-k2-tank-export-192914011.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIoQ59q9K9MevrWSO678czfSgg-_qMPXjh08Zs5h3hQrMnUOl6XJwCBlV56wRByk1KpfZYjIlAir9r0TYXAG6bSKobL72k9_pSfdGeGk9ubhRtVzJY6Rx5RVN41weG6QLpodz4AuZ6WoNTgJbyucKk5wnNzItYMAm863AgxVvTmJ
>They want anything at the moment and they weren’t really able to handle the Leo. You need money and highly trained intelligent people to operate them.
Most leopard companies are not operational because of German autism surrounding exporting spare parts and not allowing any foreign manufacturing
Leopard 2s are garbage, thats why the current push to send to ukraine is not considered an escalation by the russians, the vatniks are literally laughing at this notion
Sending the m1 is an escalation, sending the k2 is akin to sending f22s on the ground
Nonsense. They're decent enough to kill Russians lmao.
Sauce
No news reports
>The poles only got both form other countries. They couldn’t buy anything without EU money.
The EU funding wasn't even approved until recently.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-13/poland-says-agreed-with-eu-on-legal-changes-to-free-funds
Yet it paid for its K2,K9PL and FA-50 in one lump sum from their own budgets. So quit pushing your incoherent narrative that this entire purchase was driven by it because, well, it's really not.
>Here educate yourself on the many issues with the K2
I don't think you're enlightened enough to discuss this issue.
You're forgetting one...
Front engine design sucks. Period.
That's nice. Now send tanks to Ukraine already South Korea!
TALK IS CHEAP.
>this will be the real multipolar world and it will have nothing to do with pussya
Christ the German cope ITT is embarassing.
And warlords with 90 K-shit tanks end up routed by the higher IQ supreme warlord who got the Type 10 and had Mitsubishi F-3s screaming overhead to lay waste to their foes.
For into the vacuum, glorious Nippon shall emerge.
You keep saying that even when K9 has an over 50% market share as of now.
Even UAE has decided to get on the SK weapon bandwagon instead of weeb wunderwaffe.
UK is buying the K9s too
This is pure bait, everybody in the world knows that nip weapons are worse than even chink and vatnik, quality and capabilities are literally pajeet tier
> japanese hides behind american
> sork hides behind japanese
pottery
The physical moggery is hilarious, the koreans boots are literally twice the size of the nips lol
Lmfao nips are pathetic
turkey developed its own tank with help of koreans. it's not carbon copy of k2. for example it doesnt have autoloader. army thinks it's unreliable and increases costs unnecessarily.
If it's not total wunderwaffe level trash, this thing is only one or two steps off from being a fricking Bolo.
has the K2 been in combat yet?
The Type 10 is better than the K2
Type 10 is worse than chinese tanks, realistically slightly better than a t72, there are ifvs that would demolish the japanese type 10
The next better tier are challengers, leclercs, merkava
Then the next better are leopard 2s and m1s
K2 is at the top today at the highest tier
>Most middle powers have replaced their tanks with K2's
>replace third generation tank with another third generation tank instead of going for the next generation
Korean shills have been extremely moronic lately.
There’s an old french comedy skit where a french guy tries to buy new batteries in various shops, and face problems all the time (card reader not working, wrong type of batteries, etc). In the end, he finds an old small french shop but the inside in full of a chinese familly that just bought it to open a restaurant. He’s about to leave when the chinese hears he was looking for batteries, and offers to sell some to him, any type in any quantity, and ask him if he wants a refrigerator too, in various colors, or a microwave or a new phone.
You get the gits of it. On one side you have the german that makes it a pain in the ass to buy his stuff, with constant barriers to what you can do with it, upgrade or resell it. On the other hand, the asian offers his shit at a good price, and is very open about cooperation, tech transfert, building locally, localized variants etc
>Name a more kino outcome
the 2nd finno-korean hyper war
Finns are not white.