>1911 with Glock mags Posted on March 8, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor >1911 with Glock mags fucking how?
They've had double stack 1911s for some time now. Shoving a glock mag in them was only a matter of time.
For some reason, I keep hearing people say 1911s have low capacity when double stacks do exist. I guess few know of them or each has some terminal flaw that nobody brings them up.
It's just association, when everyone hears 1911 the majority of the board (poorfags) think of their options and that is a $350 flip GI model 7+1.
>each has some terminal flaw that nobody brings them up.
double stack 1911s have horrible ergos. very little thought was put in them other than make it fit a doublestack mag. they feel like rectangles. even more so than glocks or other 9mm /45 doublestacks.
2011s dont have the brick ergonomics but they are expensive.
then theres the mag issue. theres minimal standardization and a bunch of them just flatout suck. or they work fine in 1 gun and refuse to work in the next.
That's informative. I got no experience with them so thanks.
The concept of double stack 1911s is fairly recent and still in its infancy, stuff like the Staccato are proving themselves to work but for the past hundred years the 1911 has been a single stack with a 7-9 round (flush) mag depending on the model, mag, and caliber
>The concept of double stack 1911s is fairly recent
paraord put out double stacks in the 1980s which was over 3 decades ago.
Were they any good, though? Not trying to be a dick, I'm legitimately curious.
They got bought out by the corporation that ruined Remington, so I wouldn't hold my breath
I have a P14-45 and it goes bang when you pull the trigger. They have ramped barrels too, so they're much more forgiving with hollow points than standard 1911s. They are a bit bulky, but that's to be expected with 14+1 rounds of .45.
>Ruined by money grabbing retards
Thanks, anons. Fuck.
To be fair it was like a 10-20% lemon rate which is still pretty fucking high but not a huge issue when they actually existed and would replace their fuckups. And youd have 80% decent guns. Its was that you hope you dont get a gun built on the weekend cause they were drunk deal.
I've heard mixed anecdotes. Some say they have one and it works well, some say theirs fucked up constantly. QC seems all over the place.
Para ord was capable of making good guns but they had horrible quality control and regularly put out a bunch of lemons. This was true for the mags even more.
Sample size of one, but mine works fine aside from my new to 1911s at the time induced issues, and you can (could?) buy mags fron mec-gar, not that my stock ones ever had any issues.
I liked mine enough that I've since bought two more 1911s. It's a real shame they got bought out by nu r*mington.
The biggest change in recent years has been manufacturers breaking away from 1911 geometry and copying STI/SVI to better support the use of 9mm.
The achilles heel for a long time was doublestack 1911s only ran well in larger diameter cartridges due to the feed angle when using standard dimension 1911 slides, mag position, etc. No one likes a gun that isn't reliable, so companies would have had to actually re-engineer the entire gun, contract all new small parts manufacture, dedicate tooling, etc instead of just ordering white label caspian EB and WC parts just to offer a good 9mm.
45ACP doublestacks (like the Para P14.45) didn't have broad appeal simply because wanting a doublestack generally means you want capacity, so why would you gimp your capacity with 45 vs the other smaller service calibers.
40S&W fed well and was popular in competition to make major, but the general gun consumer that was buying .40S&W is also looking for "the best" pistol so they can larp as being a cop or the FBI.
Skip forward in time, STI copying SVI fixed their shit to support nuclear 9mm Major loads. STI was still concentrating on and marketing to the competition crowd though, but with the engineering done they then contracted Armscor/Rock Island to bust out some lower budget options to start to sneak into the general market. Before they could realign their business though the flips to their credit in addition to making STI white labeled guns, crossed the beams on their CZ clones (for cheap reliable mags) and the 2011 style enhancements to their 1911s so they could churn out doublestack 1911s that could run 9mm better than a lot of the other big names.
STI rebranded as Staccato to hit the high end of the general market and with Armscor at the bottom everyone in the middle now feels the need to compete. So you are simply eating all the combined marketing from the entire industry about doublestack 9mm 1911s all at once.
Wow, that's really informative
2011s fix the capacity problem while introducing a lot more reliability problems than the 1911 already had while destroying the ergos and ballooning the price point. Its a catch 22.
its pretty old actually, they just have problems in general unless you pay 2k plus then they just have some problems.
IMO decent 1911s really arent bad in terms of general reliability. Throw in some compromised stances and such and the gap narrows a lot. The more modern alternatives are definitely more negligence resistant in terms of care and also fail less when dragged from a speed boat through a bayou which is many peoples metering stick for reliability these days as opposed to "how well does it work when reasonably fed and cared for when human error gets slightly in the way"
Did Rock River Arms do something like that along time ago?
Someone did I know that.
Yeah I remember back in the early 2010s seeing these polymer double stack 1911 frames. I think it was RRA.
Fucking rock island had done that shit years ago.
Goddamn this shit, just bring back the fucking Para-Ordnance frames, I want steel frames and mags, and normal 1911 style grip panels.
But yes, that's not hard.
Most 1911s are single stacked, double stacked ones are a minority, sadly. Some people don't have the hands for it.
They could be very good.
A lot of what Para-Ordnance started with was just replacement frames sold as is, with the variety that exists in 1911s, it's kind of guaranteed that they're not all going to work with all the uppers out of the box.
Got offered a para p13 limited for about 900. Comes with a lot of "custom" stuff, fiber optic sights, ambi safety, beavertail grip safety, etc.
Held it and expected to feel like a 2x4. Felt actually nice, should i pull the trigger?
Glock with 1911 mag when?
When you get sucked into a temporal vortex and end up in a stupid world where ban states are even stupider and worse and you have to have shitty expensive mags that was a bad joke you idiot
I can tell you are seething with the impotent rage of a glock magazine fan
Yeah its more of a 2011 style, that is as others have said a double stack 9mm frame. Much fatter than a single stack 1911.
So can we get a steel framed single stack glock?
Actually a steel frame glock would be kinda cool
Those exist and they suck
>steel frame glock
why even get a glock then?
1911s tend to jam a lot.
>1911s tend to jam a lot.
stop regurgitating glocklore
Don't you mean
>take that gl-cock out of your mouth
Couldn't have picked a better name than platypus? It's like the Mr. Garrison 1911.
Do 1911s fuck people to death?
Are you being retarded on purpose? its a 2011 not a 1911. itd still require moderate changes but it isnt exactly rocket surgery.
>TWO WORLD WARS
>Introducing the Cock-Meat 1911.
I would have prefered this.
I was thinking, "didn't Alpha Foxtrot put one of these out recently?" and theirs only takes shield arms s15 mags. WEAK.
why not just design a new and cool gun as opposed to rehashing
shit a hundered times
Who is this product for? People who already have 37 Glock brand Glock magazines but really want a 1911 for some reason?
People who want a 2011 but don't want to deal with how expensive and shitty 2011 mags are.
IT. TAKES. GLOCK. MAGS!!!!
But does it take mag with stendos.
I don't see why it wouldn't.
10mm would make my dick too hard.
I'd buy this gun or the 2311 if they offered 10mm