16 More Zuzana-2 SPHs for Ukraine

>Germany, Denmark and Norway paid Slovakia 92 million € to produce additional 16 Zuzana-2 howitzers for Ukraine
>So far Slovakia has sent 4 and 4 are currently being built

24 SPHs with 43 km range and firerate of 4-5 shots per minute and MRSI capabilty will definitely help Ukrainian efforts.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >€92 million for 16 upgraded Slavshit howitzers

    WTF that is like 6 million each, what are these things made of? You can get old M109s for under a million a piece

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      From what I know they seem to be quite good, albeit difficult to use for untrained soldiers.
      You need to understand that the cost of manufacturing for them is quite low.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What is siphoning money?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >produce additional
      Probably the cost of restarting production lines.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The word they are looking for is refurbish its foreigners and translation failure

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Zuzana 2 is upgraded Zuzana-2000 which in turn is upgraded Zuzana 1 which is upgraded DANA.
          It went from 152 to 155 (and range from 20 to 40 km) as the poster above mentioned and they are currently being assembled.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Starting from scratch is expensive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >old M109s
      how much is new M109A6?
      because that's closer comparison in capabilities

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love how Ukraine will end up the custodian of the best Slavshit has to offer, and that actually reflects their industry. They will probably just keep evolving the best platforms, making them as 'nato-y' as possible

      >Slavshit
      The Zuzana is a NATO Standard 155mm Howitzer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You can get old M109s for under a million a piece
      >Effective firing range M109A1–A4:
      18.1 km (11.2 mi) (M107, HE)
      23.5 km (14.6 mi) (M549A1, RAP/HE)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron don't talk shit about Zuzi, they are pretty good.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how Ukraine will end up the custodian of the best Slavshit has to offer, and that actually reflects their industry. They will probably just keep evolving the best platforms, making them as 'nato-y' as possible

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These were bought because Ukraine already have the model in their arsenal. Should be possible to send straight to the front upon delivery.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians already threatening Slovakia with Klibrs, bombing Bratislava and sabotage
    seething

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >*KWABing intensifiés*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/GiNazqU.png

      Damn they mad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      unlike m109 they are made of something priceless. russian seething

      >€92 million for 16 upgraded Slavshit howitzers

      WTF that is like 6 million each, what are these things made of? You can get old M109s for under a million a piece

      6mill is a bargain

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/GiNazqU.png

      Damn they mad

      What site is this? Please do tell, I want to have a good laugh.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://rusvesna.su/news/1664727226

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you anon. I can already tell that it's gonna be a great time, by the 2004 site design and the .su domain.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          learning russian just to read the butthurt and Strelkov's blog was the best decision in my life

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >heh, we could punish you but as a gesture of good will, we wouldn't, so please stop before it's too late
          hahahahah

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Slovakia depends on Russia in many ways"

            literally how?
            God it's sad how little these retards realize how irrelevant Russia actually is on a global scale.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn they mad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bratushki
      Russians REALLY think their padlocked vassals were friends, don't they?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Feels good to be Gayropean

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >except for Serbs
      Somebody should tell him about all the planefulls of weapons that end up in Ukraine and Kazakhstan.
      Ukrainian planes with Serbian crews.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >16 more things to sell to the black market
    China and north kimchi land thank denmark for more engineering samples

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any real proof this has ever happened? I remember Russians claimed that every western airport will be spawncamped with Javelins and Stingers in days.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The US doesn't really know.
      What do these retards think a US military attaché's and Defense Attaché Office's job is?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Guardian
      >CNN

      what's the other 2 rags?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you already found these disappeared winter uniforms, Dima?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ae -1500000 support_equipment_1

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >missing winter uniforms
        At least they aren't Europeans, those guys are going to be freezing this winter haha. Right comrads?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've said it before, but this looks to me like they're just buying howitzers from all around europe as fast as they're being produced. German PZH (100 pieces), polish Krab (56 pieces), now the slovakian ones.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, because artillery is the centerpiece of conventional warfare. Also, they get them for free, no need to be picky.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dana / Zuzana has interesting looking autoloader.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they use cartridges instead of powder charges?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's the older 152 mm Dana. Here you can see new 155 mm Zuzana.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Possibly in order to reduce the chance of cook off, as the metal is harder to break through and shields the propellant from ignition sources to an extent.
        I recall hearing someone say the Chinese went back to metal cased propellant charges for their tanks in an attempt to reduce the chances of turret tossing in their T-72 derived designs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's terrible and slow but it looks really cool.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The claim is 4-5 shots per minute, which is fine I guess.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm just used to 8-10 shots in a minute from other systems.
          Is there any advantage to doing it all in 2 parts?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is the old version. Newer (and faster) here

            That's the older 152 mm Dana. Here you can see new 155 mm Zuzana.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Which one are they sending to Ukraine?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Both.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Czechs sent their surplus DANAs for free, Slovakia sends 8 out of factory Zuzanas (paid by Ukraine) and then 16 more (paid by Germany, Denmark and Norway).

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >

              Why do they use cartridges instead of powder charges?


              How fast is it?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            From what I heard they focused on modularity, you can rotate the conveyor and choose a charge and shell you prefer for a given task.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Designed by HR Giger

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Giger was a true chad

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >are they good?
    No.
    But they're available.
    I did expect them to be a bit better than that though.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    WE SIT TOGETHER ON THE SOFA

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