>$14,500 for a $10 tube of cream (that doesnt work). >$1200 for fancy coffee cups

>$14,500 for a $10 tube of cream (that doesnt work)
>$1200 for fancy coffee cups

Now I get the $900 billion military budget

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't really think they pay $10,000 for a hammer do you? $40,000 for a toilet seat?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They unironically don't, this myth in particular stems from gross misunderstanding of how costs were balled together in the earlier years of less comprehensive DoD auditing. If an aircraft's BII to include every single thing inside of it cost $4,000,000 for example, and it was broken into 100 different line items by cost, each line item would be annotated as $40,000 if the breakdown was unavailable for some reason. Almost every single instance of "The DoD paid 8000 gorillion dollars for a pen" headlining stems from stuff like this, which sadly makes it much harder to bring attention to where actual overspending occurs because people who have to conduct audits have a natural "Yeah, I'm sure it will be different this time" reaction.

      t. procurement gay who once repeated these same things as a grunt

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To add to this, there ARE examples where an item cost way, way fricking more than it should in bureaucratic spaghetti and legalese. The example of the Air Force spending 10k on a toilet seat cover was genuinely true, the Air Force spent about 10k USD each buying three items listed as "cover-center wall, troop compartment latrine", which were latrine parts (toilet seat covers to prevent water damage to the rest of the on board latrine) used on a C-5A Galaxy. They were unique parts where basically one company made them still, yes, but they didn't need to cost 10 thousand fricking dollars.

        Examples this blatantly egregious are way less common than you'd think, the real spending adds up between actual R&D, maintaining flight hours for aircraft, keeping naval vessels afloat, paying and housing 7 figures of personnel, paying for schools, GI bill, etc., on top of the cents added buying everyday items through contractor bureaucracy (Spending one extra dollar on every single 50 pack of toilet paper because the supply chain has been vetted adds up very, very quickly).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Spending one extra dollar on every single 50 pack of toilet paper because the supply chain has been vetted adds up very, very quickly
          I'm going through that right now actually. Can't tell you how many times I've had to tell people they cant just buy stuff on Amazon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but WHY NOT???

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also, if you reported that you spent $50000 for a toilet seat, but actually only spent $25000, you can put the difference towards a black project.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you can put the difference towards a black project.
            Or offshore bank account.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >To add to this, there ARE examples
          Holy shit you type like a reddit homosexual. have a nice day homo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They should install and enforce the use of bidees/japanese toilets for barracks to save on toilet paper bills. Water is still cheap, right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        repeating things they heard from films/on shows is the favorite pastime of a midwit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know another factor is they have to pay the opportunity cost of the manufacturer whenever they order special stuff like this. If the company who made the special mugs, could've alternatively made 1,000 regular mugs, in the same amount of time. They basically have to pay the equivalent of 1,000 normal mugs for each special mug for the company to bother. And that's not even factoring in R&D and retooling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To add to this, there ARE examples where an item cost way, way fricking more than it should in bureaucratic spaghetti and legalese. The example of the Air Force spending 10k on a toilet seat cover was genuinely true, the Air Force spent about 10k USD each buying three items listed as "cover-center wall, troop compartment latrine", which were latrine parts (toilet seat covers to prevent water damage to the rest of the on board latrine) used on a C-5A Galaxy. They were unique parts where basically one company made them still, yes, but they didn't need to cost 10 thousand fricking dollars.

        Examples this blatantly egregious are way less common than you'd think, the real spending adds up between actual R&D, maintaining flight hours for aircraft, keeping naval vessels afloat, paying and housing 7 figures of personnel, paying for schools, GI bill, etc., on top of the cents added buying everyday items through contractor bureaucracy (Spending one extra dollar on every single 50 pack of toilet paper because the supply chain has been vetted adds up very, very quickly).

        You should be happy these morons say this stuff anon, if they knew how this shit actually worked we'd have a far scarier Russia/China to deal with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok these just makes sense

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        $1280 cobbee cups are mission critical and should be bought if they aren’t already howeverthoughbeit
        You’ll rarely meet a pilot that doesn’t enjoy a cuppa

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        even from an accountancy perspective that sounds moronic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WHY is this the case though? It makes zero fricking sense.
        I work for a gigacorp and I go over our internal cost center shit every single day. Everything has its own price. Nothing is just lumped together and averaged out like that.
        Why does the military operate in a manner that creates bad data?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gigacorp is there to make money

          Military just spends

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's a reason why capitalism won over communism. Government is inefficient/doesn't give a shit, always.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mostly this- Joe Schmoe running the B-52 parts depot doesn't want to have to go through six months of testing to certify new fuses, and he doesn't care what the taxpayer pays, so he's more than willing to give a company a $1500/fuse IDIQ contract to custom manufacture fuses to the exact specs of fuses from 1962 that literally no one else still uses.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, Mr Hirsch, we need you to play the israeliteiest most israelite stereotype that you can imagine. No no, MORE israeli than that. Ok, that's good, now work in schmuck whenever you can.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2018
    Also, I bet this was the moronic "russians just use pencil!" meme all over again.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Waste like this is bad, but when you're throwing billions at nerds to make cool shit grifters and scammers are gonna want in on that money

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now you know where the money for the stargate came from

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pay $1,200 for coffee cups
    >actually pay $12 for coffee cups and $1,188 for stargate project or the secret moon base or whatever

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >12 dollars for coffee cups
      >188 industrial dollar coffee maker
      >1000 dollar lifetime repair contract

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another thing that I've seen is the tendency to read GAO reports or whatever and think "an aileron on an F-35 malfunctioned and caused a class C mishap, the problem was remedied and a fix is now in production" or "45% of the fleet is mission ready" actually means "AN AILERON RANDOMLY FELL OFF THE PLANE AND THE PILOT NEARLY DIED!" or "HALF OF ALL F-35S ARE SPARE PARTS DONORS SITTING IN A LEAKY HANGAR!"

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what are you, a poorgay?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its due to the tendering system no? If only one supplier is tending for any particular line item on their list of things they are wanting top purchase, the military has to go with that supplier no matter what the cost is, they cant just say "nah we're good" and source it themselves because that would be "unfair" apparently?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they cant just say "nah we're good" and source it themselves because that would be "unfair" apparently?
      "none of the companies that tendered were suitable but this other company that my brother owns promises they're going to do a really good job so let's give them the contract..."

      tender requirements are shit but it beats letting el presidente just pick winners and losers.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The USS Enterprise cost an inflation-adjusted $4.8 billion and took 45 months between keel laying and commissioning. Hilariously, it was considered massively behind schedule and over budget because of the challenges of building a nuclear supercarrier for the first time.

    The USS Gerald Ford cost $17.5 billion and took 92 months between keel laying and commissioning. Also it's been commissioned for seven years now and it's still on shakedown.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just fill their private offshore bank accounts with enough billions and they'll be happy and appeased and make us decent weapons and do their work right
    rarely works

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just put your coffee in a thermos instead of a cup if you want it to stay warm??

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MIC and big pharma fraud is the worst
    they are traitors to the nation and deserve death according to the law

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