https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/03/09/poland-already-sent-14-leopard-2-tanks-to-ukraine-as-ukrainian-crews-finished-training-on-them-polish-defense-minister/
In addition, Canada will provide 8 tanks, Norway - 8, Spain - 6 (and likely 4 more, talks in progress).
These will be accompanied by 7 recovery vehicles on Leo2 chassis.
The 36 tanks strong battalion of Leo 2A4 for Ukraine is ready. And it's worth noting, that according to original agreement, Poland was responsible for organizing a 31 tanks strong Leo2A4 battalion.
Exceeding the expectations, as usual.
Moreover, Poland has granted allies open access to its specialized Leo training facility in Świętoszów, where international team of trainers prepared Ukrainian crews. Poland has also offered to create a maintenance hub for Ukie Leo's at its plant at Bumar-Łąbędy (pic related).It also offered to take upon itself to jump start manufacturing parts for 2A4 variant (stopped being produced 20 years ago). Realization depends on results of negotiations with Berlin.
Captcha are my low res pic
It's also worth remembering, that the 14 Leo2 are but a fraction of total number of tanks delivered by Poland to its embattled eastern ally. 250 T72M1/M1R's and PT-91's were delivered almost a year ago, and another 60 of heavily modernized models are to be handed to
this month. The scale of Polish assistance is unprecedented. It's training, logistics, fuel and maintenance - but above all heavy weaponry. In fact, with all the equipment pledged to be delivered this month, we're getting close to a number of 1000(one thousand) armored vehicles. The importance of the immediate and quantitative aspect of Polish deliveries can only be grasped, if understood within the specific circumstances of this war - huge territory, long frontline and mass character of Ukrainian resistance coupled with lack of weaponry.
I love how the Poles put so many smoke launchers on the turrets. It has a very kino aesthetic with the ERA
why would you need so much smoke though?
Because clearly the Russians want some smoke. Haven't you been paying attention anon?
so that you don't have to reload your smoke launchers as often. it only fires 2-4 smoke rounds each time you press the smoke button
>PT91 has 24 grenade launchers fitted with smoke, anti-personnel fragmentation, or tear gas grenades
probably because those are used to launch also other payloads than just smoke.
think about is as ghetto mlrs mounted on tank instead of technical
Slightly outdated (January) and unofficial comparison of Polish deliveries to Ukraine. Nonetheless, allows to at least grasp the Polish struggle to help Ukraine win this war.
Look Piotr, we calculate old equipment with new unit cost!
>It's also worth remembering
>The scale of Polish assistance is unprecedented. It's training, logistics, fuel and maintenance - but above all heavy weaponry. In fact, with all the equipment pledged to be delivered this month, we're getting close to a number of 1000(one thousand) armored vehicles. The importance of the immediate and quantitative aspect of Polish deliveries can only be grasped, if understood within the specific circumstances of this war - huge territory, long frontline and mass character of Ukrainian resistance coupled with lack of weaponry.
Are you copy pasting that from a Polish press release or are you seriously just publicly masturbating on PrepHole to impress strangers with things you had no involvement in?
This reads like Russian propaganda lmao
Is it a meme I missed?
Merely correcting the incompetent politicians, so prone to project their shortcomings on others
https://kyivindependent.com/news-feed/german-defense-minister-says-ukraine-to-receive-fewer-leopard-tanks-than-promised
>Pistorius told reporters after a meeting of NATO ministers in Brussels. "We will not reach the size of a battalion," he said.
>Meanwhile, Poland, along with Norway, Canada, Spain, and Finland, managed to put together a battalion of the older A4 model of Leopards, Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak said, cited by Dziennik Gazeta Prawna.
>However, according to Pistorius, many of these tanks are in poor condition and need repairs before they can be sent.
Don't worry little Helmut.
We will deliver.
We will deliver in time
>trying to distract from the topic after getting BTFO'd
>trying to claim other countries sending the much more available 2A4 is a polish achievement
>trying to pretend other countries hesitating to send the much more valuable 2A7 is a German issue
I hope you're just trolling after getting irrevocably BTFO before because Canada did more to make that happen than Poland and neither can claim foreign tank deliveries for themselves.
Unless you wanna go that route to its logical conclusion in which case all Leos being sent are a German achievement, including the Polish ones.
So why do you namefag? What's your store or project that you need to be recognized for on an anonymous forum?
The absolute state of shitposting nowadays
>Canada
>Leo2A7
>Projections
>Seething
>NO, U R BTFO !!!
>Still no sources
I wish I was giving enough fuck to make a bingo card out of Your impotent rage xDDDD
>too much of a coward to respond directly
I won't even look up what your rambling schizoid post responded to, but I did notice that you couldn't answer the simple question of what the point of your name on PrepHole is.
It doesn't seem like you run any project that would require name-recognition. So do you admit that you're literally just an attention seeking child?
Since you want the attention, let's take a gander at the archive and look how your journey started.
And what a surprise:
You've been shitting up this board nearly exclusively with offtopic 4chanposts for years. The Russian invasion must've been a dream come true because it finally let you feel at home.
You don't contribute anything useful to the board that would justify namefagging, you're literally just a parasite looking for attention that should be on 4chan instead. Good job anon, you're one of like 3 poles who were here before the invasion and as one third of the polish population you chose to be an attention seeking redditor who doesn't understand the difference between PrepHole and twitter.
LMAO @(You)
For everyone else, Polish plans of rearmament for the years to come. Apologies for the quality. I am lazy.
Part 2.
Bonus: interview with gen. Raymund Andrzejczak on MSNBC, and his hot takes on Rußians (honestly I think I already linked that one)
>lose argument
>don't directly link other posts and post nonsense to pretend you weren't destroyed
lmao moron, how do you always embarrass yourself in every thread?
Can't be that hard to learn how to shut the fuck up sometimes. Bullying vatniks must've made you too confident.
I wonder why Canadians don't make a new thread for every update on this.
>I wonder why Canadians don't make a new thread for every update on this.
There are millions Ukrainians in Poland so those kind of news are all over mass media on daily basis, and war is right arcos the border for Poles - while for Canadians its pretty distant...
Canadians just aren't nearly as desperate for attention and acknowledgement as poles. Obviously any Canadian on PrepHole reads about this, we just don't look for approval from strangers online because we aren't that pathetic.
canucks are the worst posters on all of 4chins, although admittedly half of you are chink vpns
>countries are less willing to send the best tanks in the world
>fucking Germany not using their secret control over foreign governments
>luckily we have based Poland forcing Norway, Spain, Finland and Canada to do it against their will
Poles are just Russians with less gay rape at this point. How did they let themselves get mentally destroyed by propaganda to this extent?
God bless
>Poland has also offered to create a maintenance hub for Ukie Leo's at its plant at Bumar-Łąbędy
let me guess: PISsers will be so gullible they will exclude german leopards from that offer like they did with the pzh2000
>Literally tabloid news
Low effort bait
Yep. They want blueprints for the Leopard 2A6's. I'm not joking.
>Yep. They want blueprints for the Leopard 2A6's. I'm not joking.
I'm calling bullshit, not even Pissoids can be that retarded.
Yeah they wanted blueprints of Leopards that they're discontinuing right after ordering a fuckton of Abrams and K2s.
kys retard
Oh here we go, another divide and conquer mothetfucker. Can't say I didn't expect it.
>It also offered to take upon itself to jump start manufacturing parts for 2A4 variant (stopped being produced 20 years ago).
Had no idea this was on the table.
Nice.
>Poland wants some more free tech transfer from Germany before tehy klobber together the K2PL from what the Koreans let them have and what tehy could gleam from the Leo2s.
lol
lmao even
pis is almost endearing, but still transparent in their clumsy ways to gain some advantage from teh war against Ukraine.
>Poland has also offered to create a maintenance hub for Ukie Leo's at its plant at Bumar-Łąbędy (pic related).It also offered to take upon itself to jump start manufacturing parts for 2A4 variant (stopped being produced 20 years ago). Realization depends on results of negotiations with Berlin.
>block a Pzh2000 maintenance hub
>allow it for the Leopards
Just ship them to Slovakia too.
German government have driven themselves into a croner. They have zero goodwill globally now and if they refuse, there will be hell to pay. There are many countries operation Leo 2A4s and they would love to get more spare parts produced.
I'm sure they would want Germany to agree to this.
anon it was poland blocking the maintenece hub with bogus requirements
No, it was Germany who made unreasonable demands.
let me give you a recolection of events
>germany sends pzh2k into ukraine
>kmw and german governtment asks polish government if they can build a maintenance center in poland
>PiS government starts a PR stunt that only polish companys will be able to do repairs on the pzh
>kmw fucks off to slovakia
Poland dindu nuffin
they also didn't lie during the ring exchange
they also didn't lie about Leo 2 export requests
they also didn't make a shitshow out of Patriot deployment
they also don't *still* buy Russian oil
Poland Christ of nations Germany bad
Let me remind you of what actually happened
>pzh2000 get sent to Ukraine
>Germany is incapable of maintaining them themselves
>tell poles to hand over their own production facilities
>'uh, no?'
>proceed to chimpout
Also, let's not forget how german politicians keep leaking information to media during negotiation phases only to make poland look bad.
>Germany is incapable of maintaining them themselves
ah thats why there were able to simply maintain them in slovakia
You mean Slovaks had to do it for you?
no, it's done by KMW in Kosice in Slovakia. Because Slovaks are actually good allies and not lying rats like Poles.
https://www.lkz.de/%C3%BCberregionales_artikel,-waffenhilfe-fuer-ukraine-wartungszentrum-startet-in-slowakei-_arid,714136.html
The Slovaks just rented a site to the Germans. Pretty muhc just a plot of land where teh Germans set up a repair shop thanks to NATO magic, i.e. containerized everything.
The Poles wanted money from Germany for a Polish company to do the repairs, and instead of cooperating to get shit done played their usual games to block things while screeching for Germany to fix everything.
>The Poles wanted money from Germany for a Polish company to do the repairs, and instead of cooperating to get shit done played their usual games to block things while screeching for Germany to fix everything.
>Source: my ass
The German offer was clearly unreasonable (exclusive German use of a military-industrial site already in use at full capacity in support of the war) and calculated for being refused. The only bad thing the Poles did was taking the German offer in good faith and proposing alternative arrangements, because that gave the Germans extra ammo in trying to portray the Poles as greedy.
It's a different base with different arrangements.
>a military-industrial site already in use at full capacity
So it was impossible to service the PzH200 there anyway, OK.
So instead of saying 'Sorry basie is full, gotta go somewhere else' the Poles went and started this passive-agressive shitflinging campaign while asking for German money.
Yep, sounds like PiS alright.
>So instead of saying 'Sorry basie is full, gotta go somewhere else'
No, that is precisely what they said. Germans are the ones who then broke off talks and ran to the media.
so those bad germans just went away after geting told to go somewhere else? how dare they?
The point is they were the ones who made a media scandal out of it. Prior to that it was all through diplomatic channels, i.e. not public. Your bleating about the horrible PiS shitflinging Germany is just them daring to reply to unprovoked German accusations.
so after weeks and weeks of pis media screeching the germans went to the media. inexcusable, how could they stoop so low
You have it the other way around. PiS started screeching as a response to Germans going to the media, and rightfully so. From what we've seen the Poles were content to keep talks in confidence until the Germans made them public.
lmao
just like before the Leo 2 deliveries when Poland screeched for weeks about how Germany was blocking, but then it turned out they hadn't even asked
>lmao
It's a simple fact. The story broke in the Spiegel, citing German government leaks, and the Poles responded.
>The story broke in the Spiegel, citing German government leaks
That is also a lie, see here
Yes, that is the story? Okay, there wasn't a leak, a German minister just completely accidentally let something sleep in an interview.
Anon, you managed to be wrong about everything you said, don't pretend I should just ignore you being weing there as well. Instead ask yourself if maybe your view on the whole situation is tainted if you get literally nothing right.
>QUICK BRING UP SOMETHING UNRELATED TO DISTRACT PEOPLE FROM POLAND GETTING EXPOSED
Lel
Anon, I don't think Germany is willing to keep trying to play the diplomatic game with Poland after PiS broke its rules all the fucking time.
And poles were wrong in this.
>Germany offers Poland Patriots to defend their airspace
>poles cry and shit themselves saying they don't want it or need it and it should be sent to ukraine instead of just accepting it and sending some of their own to ukraine now that they have some left over they don't need
The reason Poland didn't do that is because like pretty much always Poland just looked for a way to cry about Germany.
Poland wanted some Polish company to do teh maintenance, i.e. steal all teh tech whjile getting paid by teh Gemran government. Obviously Germany said no, and paid Slovakia to set up a repair facility there.
See? That is the difference, Slovakia gets moeny from Germany for simply providing a plot for the Germans to set up, Poland wanted money to steal German tech.
PiS is literally murdering any trust and goodwill Poland might otherwise experience by being fucktards.
>https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covert-polish-repair-shop-patching-up-ukrainian-arms-11674920742
>stealing tech
I don't think you know what stealing means.
>w-we didn't want to look at PzH200!
>just pls let us look before we maek our own type of K9PL
>pls Germany also gib reparations
just shut up PiS, your constant lies and whining just made you look weak after it became obvious the Germany maneuvered for a delivery of all types of western MBT.
The Germans were slow, had epic fails in comunicationg their intent, and their defense minister was apparently utterly incompetent, but that still does not excuse PiS actign in bad faith time and again.
Literally nobody here cares about your tech anymore. The german narcissism knows no bounds.
Tell that to the Ukrainians, who ordered literally hundreds of German artillery and specifically asked for Leopard 2.
They must know that this will take longer than just ordering K2s and K9s like everyone else.
You mean the same Ukrainians that will take literally anything as long as they can defend themselves? The same ones that also ordered Krabs?
Helo esl sirs
operating
Germany, under pressure from stories about maintenance issues with the PzH2000, demanded (via diplomatic channels) exclusive use of a particular Polish base, which was already in use supporting Ukrainian logistics. The Poles replied (again, via diplomatic channels) that the base is already in use and offered alternative sites and accommodations. Then Germany ran to the media screaming that the terrible Poles were blocking setting up a vital maintenance hub.
The whole story was never anything more than a media spectacle of Germans trying to pass the buck for maintenance issues.
And yet, that base was set up in Slovakia without any trouble. Really makes you think.
That's not true though.
The issue was Poland trying to force Germans to let their companies with no experience with the machines handle them for a lot of money and gain trade secrets in the process. The polish government didn't even deny it either and just tried to say that their demands were standard procedure and then tried to pretend Germany refused because the location wasn't good enough.
Meanwhile the location was moved all the fucking way to Slovakia in response.
Why do poles always lie?
Also poles have absolutely 0 justification to cry about German politicians running to the media after they've leaked diplomatic talks again and again before, lied to press with the Rimgtausch to make Germany look bad and acted like bad faith cunts throughout.
Most importantly, German politicians didn't just run to the media, the way it came one was because Trittin had an interview about something else and something related to it was mentioning in a single comment on the side, the reporter picked up on it and asked about that instead and whether you like it or not, contrary to polish PiSsheads he actually tried to stay relatively nice about it, he just didn't lie about your disgusting behavior.
>The issue was Poland trying to force Germans to let their companies with no experience with the machines handle them for a lot of money and gain trade secrets in the process. The polish government didn't even deny it either and just tried to say that their demands were standard procedure and then tried to pretend Germany refused because the location wasn't good enough.
Germany made a completely unreasonable demand, Poland refused and gave their own proposals in response, and then Germany broke off negotiations and "completely accidentally" as you claim it shared it with the media as Poland being bad. How is Poland the bad faith actor in this?
>Germany made a completely unreasonable demand,
Poland just pretends that's the case, the German government has already said that's bullshit and that the location wasnt critical but Polish other demands were, they've proven it as well by literally moving countries.
The issue was Poland trying to force Germany to let polish engineers with no experience with the machines handle maintenance so they could get a ton of money and trade secrets out of the maintenance contract.
That's not just greedy but downright evil because it would ensure that the maintenance is fucked because no polish engineer knows how to service the vehicles properly.
>Germany broke off negotiations
Poland had already delayed it for weeks with it's insane demands, it was set up in like a week in Slovakia instead. Germany gained nothing out of delaying it, PiS did and has proven repeatedly they're willing to fuck over ukraine to fuck with Germany.
Face it, the politicians you suck offered cunts.
>and "completely accidentally" as you claim it shared it
Yes, because it's the first time that happened compared to all the gucking time in poland because Germany, contrary to Poland, tried to stay professional on the diplomatic stage even when poland kept leaking shit and lying about it. Also if you read the actual interview it basically came up on the side, the interviewer tried to ask more, Trittin made a short comment and then got back on topic and that comment didn't even reveal too much, it just didn't lie.
Then poles sperged out about, we got a proper statement, then also one from Poland where the polish government admitted it was true but tried to pretend that actually the location (lol) was the real issue and that their other demands are completely normal and Germany should've just agreed.
>How is Poland the bad faith actor
See above.
You can't spin this, anon. Even if you repeat the PiS lies about the location being the issue, it just doesn't work.
>German government has already said that's bullshit and that the location wasnt critical
how the fuck are germans supposed to know what is critical and whats not in a polish facility on polish land in polish production efforts
>inb4 it came to them in a dream
>how the fuck are germans supposed to know what is critical
Critical to them in the negotiations you low IQ moron, learn English.
Germany broke off the negotiations not because of the location as the Polish government tried to claim but due to the Polish government trying to force Germany to hire Polish civilian contractors to handle their vehicles for a lot of money and the relevant trade secrets instead of just letting Bundeswehr personell with decades of experience with them do it despite those civilian polish engineers having exactly 0 experience with German howitzers.
THAT was the critical point in the negotiation and the polish government admitted to demanding that insane shit. The location clearly wasn't critical not just because the German government said so but because it proved it by moving all the way to fucking slovakia which is objectively worse.
>That's not just greedy but downright evil because it would ensure that the maintenance is fucked because no polish engineer knows how to service the vehicles properly.
It would also make it all take way longer, not just because poles would have to learn how to do it all first but contrary to Bundeswehr engineers those civilian contractors have other shit going on so German howitzers wouldn't always take priority and they wouldn't just hang around in the facility ready whenever something new arrives.
Seriously the whole Polish proposal was insanely stupid and accepting it would've ensured that no Germab equipment sent to ukraine would come back from maintenance without a significant and completely unnecessary delay which particularly the gepards probably can't fucking effort because they're pretty unique in their capabilities in Ukraine and necessary to shield any mobile offensive from missile and drone attacks since I don't think their Tunguska's ever got something like the Quatar upgrade.
>Lambrecht Fraulein decides to make PR stunt out of Patriot delivery
>Spills the detail to press, despite asked by Polish counterpart not do so
>Initially tries to pull Patriot batteries out of NATO quick response force
https://www.businessinsider.de/politik/deutschland/lambrecht-bot-polen-patriots-an-die-der-nato-versprochen-waren-b/
Fortunately, Bundeswehr and Pistorius came in to sort the mess out.
Meanwhile on PrepHole: anon incapable of critical thinking regurgitate the German sensationalist media goyslop.
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trade secrets for maintenance? they would not produce them just replace parts. how secret can that be?
>It also offered to take upon itself to jump start manufacturing parts for 2A4 variant (stopped being produced 20 years ago).
Yeah, no. No idea about the current state of 2A4 part availability (the tank surplus market is a lot harder to get into than the one for rifles it seems), but after all the shit they pulled I doubt KMW is gonna let them do that when they can just license it out to another German company or literally any country that doesn't constantly try to fuck with them and Germany in general.
That's the kind of request you have to be trusted for.
Chile is already looking at upgrading their Leopard 2A4 fleet. Hoping that some deal will be worked out where they're sent to Ukraine in exchange for Germans building a factory for new build tanks in Chile. They idea was floated in the past but there was no urgent motivation for that to happen at the time.
>Be Chile
>Want new tank
>decide on Leo 2a4
>Purchase tank from Germany
>Germany asks Chile if they want training as well
>Chile asks the US to train then on their new tank.
asks the US to train then on their new tank.
Wat?
Will Taiwan receive the same level of support when a dying Xi inevitably launches the biggest naval invasion the world has ever seen with 650 vessels? I think only my country regularly sends our army to Taiwan to train with them.
There simply won't be a military action over Taiwan. It would be far too costly to China for relatively limited returns. What will happen is continued political pressure from the CCP to turn the Taiwanese government friendly enough for a pro-CCP coup
Yes yes everyone thought the same about Ukraine for a time.
Memes aside, a naval invasion is just not going to happen on the scale that would be required to seize Taiwan. Even Russia, for all of its blunders in Ukraine, knew better than to attempt a landing at Odessa
>Will Taiwan receive the same level of support when a dying Xi inevitably launches the biggest naval invasion the world has ever seen with 650 vessels? I think only my country regularly sends our army to Taiwan to train with them.
No.... there is another.
>Manchuria Project : Reinstated
My body is ready.
>biggest naval invasion the world has ever seen
>with 650 vessels
ISWYDT
China will reunify through peaceful means.
I'm sure kmw and Rheinmetall are drooling over actual combat data. They are developing new tanks right now so it's perfect moment for some combat testing to know what is important and what isn't
Combat data for almost 40 years old tanks?
The chassis design hasn't changed in the slightest, the data is still useful when you're designing a new one from scratch
You think Leopards never saw combat or something?
This war is the first real combat since Iran-Iraq which didn't feature Leopards
Pretty much. The Leopard 2 and Abrams chassis were both finalized in 1977. It's a 50 year old design and does fine.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covert-polish-repair-shop-patching-up-ukrainian-arms-11674920742
Poland is perfectly capable of repairing EVERY SPG out there (and it does). The Krab, the Caesar, the M109, the Zuzanna, M777, PZH 2000 - You name it. Either join the war effort or get the fuck out of our way.
>Mechanics sometimes find soldiers’ belongings inside the Krabs: a toothbrush, unfinished snacks or family photos.
>“The Krabs arrive here with leaves, mud, sand, twigs stuck to the body and caterpillars. It is Ukrainian soil,” he said. “It hit me really hard the first time I went inside of one.”
F
>Leopard 2
a couple weeks ago when Poland's PM said they were finally sending the Leopards and retarded German media were reporting that he didn't confirm the model and that those might have been Leopard 1s
A likely story, we all know Poland has huge reserves of Leopard 1s ready to be delivered.
SIRS
Man I am surprised Raghead didn't kill himself after the Kharkiv good will gesture, alas, he doubled down.
Fuck you there's no way those were made unironically.
its ironically unironic. Stupid westoids don't get superlative meta humor.
Please Saars!
Saars do not redeem leapoard
SARR DO NOT REDEEM LEPOARD!! DO NOT REDEEM!
India good frend Russia!
>how exactly am I to get you through
What makes a leopard 2A4 better than a T-72B3?
Reverse speed and gun depression? Better FCS and stabiliser?
They should be fairly similar in terms of optics, and the T-72 likely actually has better Armor.
Gun performance will depend on the rounds used, but even with the length limitations they should be comparable to tungsten sabot out of the L/44.
With modern ammo both should pen each other.
Better ammunition, than a fucking 3BM22
>They should be fairly similar in terms of optics
2A4 has cold war thermal imagers and no independent commander sight.
They're using 1PN96MT-02 outside of the propaganda Sosna-U or DVE-BS crosswind sensor equipped 3B's 2022.
>the T-72 likely actually has better Armor.
This has to be bait.
Are you retarded?
Leopard 2 is a joke armorwise compared to a B3.
>Leopard 2 is a joke armorwise compared to a B3.
The arrowhead equipped tanks are well protected, especially if they have the C package hull Armor, but pre-A5 tanks basically have a similar Composite package (at least in terms of protection) to a T-72B.
Kontakt-5 equipped T-72s and T-80s have more RHA equivalent protection than a 2A4.
What the other anons said. Also tank on tank combat is rarer than you might think. And most tanks are better than no tanks, that's why even the Leopard 1s Germany scraped together might be useful
A T-72B3 is still a T-72 anon, its armor is shit
>What makes a leopard 2A4 better than a T-72B3?
It's was designed and built somewhere that wasn't Russia.
German tanks
rolling through Ukrainian plains
breaking through russian lines
crushing russian skulls
again
what a time to be alive
>Soon
I'm sorry, how many pictures of busted T72s, 80s, and 90s are there?
Are you going to post that one Abrams blown up in the desert 20 years ago again? Idk man those pictures seem to repeat a lot.
Meanwhile I'm like 3 or 4 clicks away from potentially flooding the thread with destroyed soviet shitboxes from this year alone.
>That's because NATO is careful about who they go to war with, if they're not at least 100 years behind then it's simply not fair!
I mean, Russia wasn't careful and you can see where that led them.
Except this is your wonderwaffe that will win you the war!
That's not a T-14.
its Wunderwaffe, subhuman
And the crew got away alive. Imagine that
>And the crew got away alive
accompanied by seventy two virgins
lmao you clearly haven't seen the video of this thing getting fucked up by an ATGM, that's where the pic is from, and the tank went up in a fireball like a T72
>years later
>still posting the same picture of the abandoned turkish Leo2s which got air-striked by the turkish airforce with no context
Dont feel like digging for the links, but iirc the tank number of the one in the back was 526 or something, and according to the leaked turkish list it hit an IED/mine and was not hit by an ATGM.
They are not fucking around and throwing them in they are building a complete high standard tank regiment, you can tell by the recovery vehicles. Russia is fucked. Russia has already lost the war why the fuck don't they just surrender/leave before the Ukrainians take Moscow and Belgorod in reparations because now they absolutely can and the only way to stop them would be for Russia to nuke its own cities and people (just like now, fallout goes east if they hit Ukraine)
leopards hding
marders hiding
???
>will
>will
>will
>will
>will
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA i just want to see them in action AAAAAAAAAAA
Soon, brother, soon.
Slovakia’s Defense Minister has stated that Poland has agreed to a joint Polish-Slovak transfer of MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine. Poland has 29 jets while Slovakia has 11. The defense minister says it’s time for the Slovak gov. to make the decision.
BTW first Polish FA-50 already off the factory line, delivery in August.
>Poland was responsible for organizing a 31 tanks strong Leo2A4 battalion.
Are poles really trying to claim credit for other countries sending tanks now?
Lmao, didn't know there was a country version of stolen valor.
Post hands, moron
>exceeding expectations
Pray tell, subhuman, which expectations did people have of Poland in regards to other countries sending tanks?
And why the fuck are you namefagging? You contribute nothing to the board thet would justify it. Do you have a web shop or run a kommando project I'm not aware of?
>Ukraine has everything!
>Did you know we have Leopards?
>another Poland stronk thread
I guess those countryball memes hit them a little harder than people intended.
Polish space program when?
I guess if other countries tanks arrive in Ukraine there will be a thread about it too. Its bigger news now because this is first.
only thing those leopards will conquer is reddit frontpage
>fast moving tank over a ramp on asphalt
>vs
>slow moving tank over a bump and a ditch on loose earth
What did the vatnik mean by this?
>trade secrets for maintenance?
For in-depth maintenance you need to know pretty much everything about a vehicle, depending on the task it actually requires more knowledge than producing the parts. Any retard can change a wheel, but that's the kind of stuff you can do in the field.
>how secret can that be?
Extremely.
>I guess if other countries tanks arrive in Ukraine there will be a thread about it too. Its bigger news now because this is first
Didn't Canada send theirs like a week or two ago already?
>than producing the parts
*than producing most parts
if anything it looks like the t72 had a more difficult job of staying in one piece in that gif but i guess not fapping to cold war era military hardware makes me a vatnig heh
>Didn't Canada send theirs like a week or two ago already?
sent them yes - but question is where - last info i found is that tanks were sent to Poland where Ukrainians are trained to use them
News from 2 days ago — Canadian soldiers are on in Poland training their Ukrainian counterparts on how to use the Leopard tanks donated by the West.
Not pictured is the concussion suffered by every single member of the crew.
based
those tanks are long destroyed and the crews are dead lmao
i remember the hype over this meme flag
this image didnt age well
Kek. What's funny is the fight between GAYrmany and Muttland about who to send their tanks in first and thus be embarrassed
Huh, you convinced me, I will now stop supporting western tank shipments to Ukraine
I recommand you crawl back where you came from
I recommend you gargle on Zelensky's cum, you haven't done that in a while anon!
>the russoid speaks of male-on-male fellatio
Like clockwork!
I am Hamburger from California deluxe oblast. I am demoralized. commisar bidet must be ending support of nazi gnomish xoxol. I cannot afford fueling oils for heating the meat and rampant Black crime make me collapsed. Have gay aid pizza hut
Бoттoм тeхт
the leopards gyro autoadjusts the gun bore like no prob after it slammed down
noice
apart from that, both tanks smell like puke afterwards
The polish economy has got to be raking in about $100 billion in cash from around the world for all this activity. Plus various other friendly donations of equipment and services. Damned smart Poland, stepping up first and stepping up fast. They're basically going to get rid of almost everything obsolete or headed toward obsolescence, completely up grade to very modern systems, and get several factories to build and refurbish out of it. Plus upgraded training facilities that will now become central & critical to all of the EU and NATO, staffed by some of the top experts the West has to offer. Effectively, military academies for their own soldiers AND various allied countries.
Ukraine will become the new Poland in the coming decades, a military and industrial powerhouse that will anchor the Baltics down through Romania & Bulgaria and Greece.
Consider the alternative possibility:
The maintenance hubs set up specifically for the Ukraine war are temporary and the (very expensive) support will be withdrawn once the war is over, they're mostly just training grunts in the basics and the facilities have little to nothing in common with military academies, specialist training is done in other allied nations for the most part and other nations stationing NATO troops in Poland (hopefully in greater numbers) doesn't really have the implications you hope it has.
Seeing this as a nice temporary boost to their economy (which hopefully makes up for the gas/oil issues Russian fuckery brought about) is probably an a lot more realistic view on this than thinking they can create an economic miracle out of nothing.
I mean, they're pretty much the only place you can reliably ship lots of supplies through to Ukraine. I imagine that has to come with a fat paycheck.
Poland historically always wanted a unified block of eastern European countries to stand up to Russia and the German states, they got close to this during the heydays of the Polish Commonwealth but as Muscovy kept expanding and got increasingly stronger, they ended up losing Ukraine to it, which basically doomed the commonwealth as Russia became too strong. Poland tried rectifying this again during the 1920s through Prometheism and the intermarium project, but revitalised european nationalism across the continent and a rapidly reconstituted Soviet russia put an end to this project. Now finally Poland has the chance to right these historical mistakes, end Russia as a overpowering player in eastern Europe and bring back stability to the Region, such as during the days of the Golden era of the Commonwealth, where Wallachia was as rich as France on a per capita basis and Poland as rich as most of the German princely states. This is achievable with eastern europe joining the rest of europe if Russia can be put inside its box and a zone of stability can be returned.
NEO INTERMARIUM WHEN?
Blow it out your ass pshek lmao
You're never going to be as rich (or relevant) as a real country
The panzers are rolling again in ukraine, what a time to be alive.
it's pretty funny how much kraut shills and pissoid shills try to outshill each other
t. polack, luv germany (except thuringia, nuke this shithole)
What's wrong with Thüringen?
I went there once on a school trip to check out their big ass cathedral and thats it
almost never hear anything else from it
Personally, I think Berlin should be Nuked and the Capital moved back to Bonn
>t. kraut
Very rural, don’t like non thuringian people. Good Bratwurst and Knoedel, though.
it's a depopulating shithole full of weird as fuck people. Even Erfurt was like a worse, dirtier polish city despite germany being way richer. One of the ~20k towns that had an immigrant centre (sulh? meiningen? either of those) made me feel less safe than when I was in a literal brazilian favela, browns were running completely unchecked, although admittedly that was the height of the immigrant crisis so things probably changed.
Thuringian forest and the view from one of the salt mountains (Kaliberg) were the only good things I remember from there and I've been there for about 3 weeks.
Thuringia and Saarland need to go.
I have bad news for you anon about the number of immigrants roaming the streets. very bad news...
I agree the people are pretty weird, very deliverance vibe in the small towns. A lot of cool medieval buildings tho and the thuringian forest is top tier. I found this creepy hut in the middle of the forest full of old porn back in september
Doubt its actual Germans. Same with the korean shlling. Russian expats?
The 'korean' shilling was for sure not a korean, never spoke korean at all, just trying to stir shit. Could just as easily shilled for Japan or Malaysia instead. Which is kinda funny since I think SK would be the most friendly to Russia given its geography
Can't wait to see ukrainian ERA on them.
Kontakt on Leopard 2 when?
Oh, dear lord let there be videos of Western and Russian tanks fighting each other. Please, let it be both aerial drone footage and gun site vids.
>indian calling anyone pooland
the irony is palpable, Rashit Streeti
>Encyclopedia Dramatica
Is it still the late '00s?
Yeah. That was the funniest shit I've ever seen. We need to start killing poolacks on the streetd
Damn, 14? They will push straight to Moscow with those numbers
>More Leopards already in country than Armata will ever exist.
Eager to see a T-72 missing half of its ERA blow it to hell!
Don't you all love that particular anon who turns up in every thread with Poland in the title and repeats same crap every thread turning it into a shitshow? Why are mods asleep? This is not 4chan? Hello?
Hello newfriend.
I know you might not like it but there are plenty of anons, including poles, who don't like PiSsoids.
I didn't even know you people existed until you started shitting up my board with your tribal warfare but I have learned to hate you nonetheless.
Have a blessed day.
>newfriend
You literally started shitposting around may/june last year and been repeating same shit since then. Which make me belive your'e eighter a shill or completely schozophrenic. Eighter way
>he hasn't been here long enough to know where newfriend came from
None of those posts are by me. You don't get to tell anybody to go back to 4chan when you clearly do not belong on this board or website and just whinge about 4chanshit yourself.
Fucking zoomer.
>everybody who hates me is one person
Sounds like a personality disorder.
Just get PrepHolex so you can at least tell new IDs apart you dumb fuck.
i hate these pissoid threads and this tripmoron gay so much its unreal
til every round for the smoothbore 120 mm is fin-stabilised.
>I just want a video of a leopard or an abrams coupled with half a dozen bradleys wreaking havoc in bakhmut
Is this too much to ask?
first confirmed capture
Good. We shall now see the insides of upgraded leotard.
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