Yes, NYC subway shooter. Goetz was his name (he later got sued into like, 3rd world poverty in no small part because CC'ing wasn't exactly legal in NYC)
No that's not true, they had screw drivers, were on the way to "only" rob an arcade by their own admission, and approached him from all sides asking for money, which is classic robbery behavior. Cry more. And btw they all went on to have lengthy criminal records and or die by violence.
>carrying a screwdriver in your pocket means you're a deadly threat
moron, they didn't thresten him, they didn't demand anything from him, they weren't holding weapons.
You're not suddenly justified for shooting someone if they happen to have a weapon concealed you learn about after the fact.
>shooting 4 unarmed kids, including a coupe de grace, in a train car where it took 50 minutes for any medical help to arrive, proves the 5 shot revolver is clearly superior for self defence
He was a israelite with revenge fantasies that shot 4 black kids while they were sitting down. It was only barely considered a defensive shooting because doing otherwise was antisemitic
And use a pistol with a good single action trigger. Like a revolver or a 1911 or P7. Or the s&w shield ez oddly enough, it looks like a striker gun but has an internal hammer and a surprisingly good trigger.
>b-but the gun still matters
No, get good you fricking homosexual. There are people who hunt with revolvers who prefer using double action rather than single action.
It's a good gun from an ergonomics and readiness and safety standpoint but I'm not potentially donating that to a PD. My philosophy is use the most reliable, cheap and plain beater. So anything from the $500 to $850 range. That is if you use 9mm. I think I'd be fine with .32acp or .380 pistols really which can be had for sub $400.
Look at the pictures of the shooter and tell me where you think the other 4 shots hit. If they hit him in the back, then there would be significantly more blood on the ground.
>So just get good?
if someones arm is infront of their torso, and you shoot at their torso, guess where your bullet just went? their arm.
you do not have as much control over where you shoot someone during a gunfight as you think you do fudd.
>he thinks this is an argument for how the shooter did better
An arm isn't going to stop a bullet, so that bullet will continue into the chest. That's 5 irrelevant grazes then rather than 4.
>he thinks bullets just go through objects in a straight line
Bullets, especially hollowpoints, have a tendency to bounce around the body when it hits something like bone. Funny enough there's a couple big bones in your arm that the bullet can be deflected off course of if it hits it
My wife is an ER nurse and had to work on a gangbanger that got shot by a .45 in the left side of his collarbone and it came out by his left hip. Ballistics are weird and sometimes unpredictable.
>shots all over and hitting areas that are unlikely to stop an attacker quickly >hurr this is a gear problem concerning capacity rather than a training problem
>yet another shooting where everyone obsesses over minutia that doesn't matter
the dude had the advantage, the shooter was busy targeting anyone he could see and most likely didn't even SEE dickens. this was exclusively a marksmanship thing not a stopping power or capacity thing.
Shots fired =/= shots necessary to stop the attacker.
It will probably take a while, but the medical examiner's report will indicate which of the shots fired were fatal. It's possible that all of them were, or it's possible that only the last one was. We don't know at this point.
paul harrel shot at a mansized target with his 38 with a 1 and a 1/2 barrel at 40 yards
hit with all 5 cylinders
it was in his latest mass shooter video
Frick off back to rebbit, homo
This board appreciates Harrell
https://i.imgur.com/mqlYgIE.jpg
gtfo homosexual tourist
>80% of his content is exactly the same thing over and over >the rest of it is him giving very mild and unoriginal advice >incredibly stubborn about doing things his way regardless of what others say despite trying to play the humble man. >hes already given out all of his specialist knowledge years ago and is now just coasting off of doing 'response to comments' videos
also >is just being played like a puppet by his friend who produces the videos
>digits confirm
Brainlets permanently BTFO with zero chance of recovery. Absolutely rekt
>listening to someone shoot and say numbers for 15 minutes is MENSA memeber shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Gen Zs first father figure, let them have it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Demoranch is probably more your speed brother. >I remember when I was 13yo
2 years ago
Anonymous
anon just because theres a lot of talking doesn't automatically mean its intelligent. paul says almost the exact same words in every video. all he does is ammo testing, stupid question answering and giving his thoughts on hot topics related to guns. his shooting isn't even interesting, he is a good shot but all he does is slow-fire (inb4 you pretend to act like this is better than le zoomy zoom cqb magdumping).
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s better than literally any other gun channel (other than forgotten weapons) when it comes to gaining knowledge of firearms and ammunition. But please, be my guest and go watch granddumb mag dump a ballistic gel dummy from 8 ft away and miss 3 out of 10 shots. Very informative
2 years ago
Anonymous
>please, be my guest and go watch granddumb mag dump a ballistic gel dummy from 8 ft away and miss 3 out of 10 shots
Holy shit this, I thought I was the only one to notice but that dude is a terrible shot
2 years ago
Anonymous
That’s why they never let him deploy, they considered him a liability to friendly troops in his vicinity. Then they forced him to fake an injury and make a YouTube channel
2 years ago
Anonymous
Honestly, that sounds about right…
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gaining knowledge of firearms and ammunition
everything paul teaches is first-year gun owner shit, and he teaches the exact same thing every video.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well it’s good for first year gun owners then. The ammunition info he provides is good for even 20 year gun owners who don’t get the opportunities to use those ammos often. Maybe you would be more interested in finding out which striker fired plastic garbage is best is -40 degree weather becuase that’s just so useful
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it’s good for first year gun owners then.
no its not lol its way too dry and paul is super off-putting for non-weirdos. most people are just gonna watch some NRA-TV video if anything. this is the problem, paul caters to gun newbies but his audience are all intermediate gun people who just like hearing someone tell them what they know.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Like I said, demoranch is more your speed bud
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i have run out of things to say so i will just repeat what i said earlier to get the last word in
2 years ago
Anonymous
>wahhh >people don’t like the same thing as meeeee >wahhhhhh
Gunna cry gay? Piss your pants? Shit and cum maybe? >Muh Paul sucks cause he talks a lot and I don’t understand bigword >Bigword make me mad, make brain hurt >oogah boogah you say same thing twice I have now won arugement >me go magdump glock at target 3 ft away now cause me bigman >me put big boy pants on today
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>bigword
paul uses common language in almost every video, i have no idea where you're getting this idea that his channel is for MENSA memebers only. this is like someone on 2006 saying the daily show is smart comedy for intelligent people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dude just stop, anon made a fool of you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>p-pls just be btfo already i don't have any more arguments!
ive yet to hear you say anything that wasn't entirely emotionally driven.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s alright anon, I’m on your side. These guys just don’t get it. We’re the cool ones!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fricking lmao this is really how newbie gunowners be
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it’s ogre glockbros
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
On no, guess I'll stop doing bill drills because anonymous doesn't understand basic training drills.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>me magdump target 2 ft away >me doin a heckin training >me super larperator now >basically Wyatt Earp cause accurazy >me fastest gun in the west
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, yes. 3 feet is the same as 7 yards. Obviously I meant 2 feet.
Try doing some actual drills at the range. Touch grass and all that.
Very few people will ever be as smooth and methodical as that animation. "Push" style speed loaders also have a large flaw in that they can lose rounds if bumped. I like them despite the flaw and still use them, but when you go to reload and come up empty or with like 3 rounds attached it's a bit of a buzz kill.
I carried a Safariland comp 1 speed loader when I carried a 442, and now a comp 2 with my 856. I never had it drop any rounds while sitting in my pocket.
tbh it's a do-able shot, but at that range I'd have no problem running the other direction and then sleeping like a baby aftwards. I carry a gun to protect myself. If those people were concerned about their protection they'd have had their own gun and shot the guy themselves.
That guy did a fantastic job. I don’t know if I could do the same. I’m not as good as I could be with pistols. Need more practice.
That said, a snub is for deleting Blacks and Yoko Ono enthusiasts at super-close range, not so much for 40 yard shots. Though I bet there are plenty of people here who could do it.
lol that wasn't a defensive shooting. It was an offensive shooting. The only reason for a CCW to exist is to allow you to break contact and live. That homosexual could have run away he was in no danger but chose to engage. I ain't no sheepdawg. My gun is for the protection of me and mine. Everyone else is on their own.
>that gay
Are you salty about it or something? He likely saved dozens of lives, for all we know it may have been the new high score otherwise. This "breaking contact" shit has always been a meme. What if you yourself were 40 yards away? Then what, suppressive firing until you can sprint away?
No I just don't feel the desire to risk my life for strangers which seems to get a lot of salty replies. I'm glad he did it. It was good for 2A optics. It just ain't me bro.
Engaging someone who isn't actively engaging you is not self defense. That gay had no obligation to go save anyone. He probably saved the lives of vacks-maxxed mask cucks who voted to remove his right to own a gun more than once in their lives.
There's no going back after the last two years bro. Walking around in a sea of compliant sheeple changed my outlook on civic duty forever. The country I was raised to believe in never existed. It was just a psyop to keep everyone feeding the beast with the productivity of the ours of their life.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This you?
it's time to go back bud. For real you have spent too long here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sheep dogs are the ones running around looking for active shooters on their blotters dipass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dipass? cool word gramps. Maybe find a coffin to get some rest in comfortably away from society since the only thing you seem interested in is complaining about others doing things with their lives. Better yet go socialize with real people and take your meds and act like a real person.
Peace the frick out.
Engaging someone who isn't actively engaging you is not self defense. That gay had no obligation to go save anyone. He probably saved the lives of vacks-maxxed mask cucks who voted to remove his right to own a gun more than once in their lives.
There's no going back after the last two years bro. Walking around in a sea of compliant sheeple changed my outlook on civic duty forever. The country I was raised to believe in never existed. It was just a psyop to keep everyone feeding the beast with the productivity of the ours of their life.
Can't decide if demoralized Black person cattle or a glowie salty that his work of 3 years went to waste after 15 seconds because some chubby weirdo crack shot was packing.
Guess I have another reason to never go to the mall
The dude with the highest bodycount in self defense used a snubbie, wasn't it 4 people with 5 shots from a .38?
Yes, NYC subway shooter. Goetz was his name (he later got sued into like, 3rd world poverty in no small part because CC'ing wasn't exactly legal in NYC)
And the fact that it wasn't self defence, he just freaked out that a black guy talked to him so he executed all the black in his car.
>And the fact that it wasn't self defence, he just freaked out that a black guy talked to him so he executed all the black in his car.
based
No that's not true, they had screw drivers, were on the way to "only" rob an arcade by their own admission, and approached him from all sides asking for money, which is classic robbery behavior. Cry more. And btw they all went on to have lengthy criminal records and or die by violence.
>carrying a screwdriver in your pocket means you're a deadly threat
moron, they didn't thresten him, they didn't demand anything from him, they weren't holding weapons.
You're not suddenly justified for shooting someone if they happen to have a weapon concealed you learn about after the fact.
you are if they're Black folk
>they all went on
So the snub nose was a poor choice
>shooting 4 unarmed kids, including a coupe de grace, in a train car where it took 50 minutes for any medical help to arrive, proves the 5 shot revolver is clearly superior for self defence
>kids
You spelled Black folk wrong
>kids
You mean 20 year old ghetto muggers? Why is it when the criminals are poor and black they turn to kids, youths etc
>wheel gun only needed 5 shots to cleanse 4 Black folk
Revolverchads, I kneel
Enter the sub, get the snub
Goetz got zero kills and paid for it in civil damages court. Never leave the victim alive to tell his side of the story.
He was a israelite with revenge fantasies that shot 4 black kids while they were sitting down. It was only barely considered a defensive shooting because doing otherwise was antisemitic
>8 "hits"
>1 to the arm, 1 to the neck, 2 to the torso, and the rest irrelevant grazes
So just get good?
And use a pistol with a good single action trigger. Like a revolver or a 1911 or P7. Or the s&w shield ez oddly enough, it looks like a striker gun but has an internal hammer and a surprisingly good trigger.
>b-but the gun still matters
No, get good you fricking homosexual. There are people who hunt with revolvers who prefer using double action rather than single action.
>or P7
this man actually recommending a fricking P7.
It's a good gun from an ergonomics and readiness and safety standpoint but I'm not potentially donating that to a PD. My philosophy is use the most reliable, cheap and plain beater. So anything from the $500 to $850 range. That is if you use 9mm. I think I'd be fine with .32acp or .380 pistols really which can be had for sub $400.
>noguns Black person unironically suggests the worst handgun ever made
Not that anon, but what’s wrong with the P7? I don’t own one but I also haven’t heard much bad about them
>Unironically seriously suggesting a p7
I want the nogun morons, underage summergays, and turd worlders to leave.
>irrelevant grazes
Source?
Look at the pictures of the shooter and tell me where you think the other 4 shots hit. If they hit him in the back, then there would be significantly more blood on the ground.
Looks like one in the armpit and shoulder too.
a rotten homosexuals butthole
ignore said homosexual
>So just get good?
if someones arm is infront of their torso, and you shoot at their torso, guess where your bullet just went? their arm.
you do not have as much control over where you shoot someone during a gunfight as you think you do fudd.
>he thinks this is an argument for how the shooter did better
An arm isn't going to stop a bullet, so that bullet will continue into the chest. That's 5 irrelevant grazes then rather than 4.
>he thinks bullets just go through objects in a straight line
Bullets, especially hollowpoints, have a tendency to bounce around the body when it hits something like bone. Funny enough there's a couple big bones in your arm that the bullet can be deflected off course of if it hits it
>le bullets bouncing in the body meme
Get off the internet grandpa
My wife is an ER nurse and had to work on a gangbanger that got shot by a .45 in the left side of his collarbone and it came out by his left hip. Ballistics are weird and sometimes unpredictable.
I bet you would nail 6 out of 6 headshot out of your snubnose revolver at 40 yards in an IRL situation
>1 neck shot
>2 torso shots
How is that bad?
>shots all over and hitting areas that are unlikely to stop an attacker quickly
>hurr this is a gear problem concerning capacity rather than a training problem
It was 40 yards on a moving target with likely a subcompact pistol. I think given the circumstances he performed really well.
>It was 40 yards
still not confirmed
>on a moving target
also not confirmed
It was confirmed 40 yards, standing supported.
What is not confirmed is if all shots were at 40, or if he advanced on the position while shooting.
>Why can't the perp stand still like my paper targets.
Too busy actually owning guns to care OP.
Based, G-d bless, and thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
nobody actually gives a shit what you carry OP, please touch grass
Paul Harrell can easily do that, he did it on video a few days ago with his j frame in double action only.
The only thing Paul harrel does easily is get tracked.
I find my 60-14 extremely accurate, I'll take those shots.
>Hillary hole
hello robo
Cry about it
Sexy
>Hillary hole
>yet another shooting where everyone obsesses over minutia that doesn't matter
the dude had the advantage, the shooter was busy targeting anyone he could see and most likely didn't even SEE dickens. this was exclusively a marksmanship thing not a stopping power or capacity thing.
Shots fired =/= shots necessary to stop the attacker.
It will probably take a while, but the medical examiner's report will indicate which of the shots fired were fatal. It's possible that all of them were, or it's possible that only the last one was. We don't know at this point.
Pics of the body get posted here all the time, most of the shots probably were not fatal.
> I bet snubby boys are seething
paul harrel shot at a mansized target with his 38 with a 1 and a 1/2 barrel at 40 yards
hit with all 5 cylinders
it was in his latest mass shooter video
>paul harrel
no one cares
We do. We care very much what the repeat serial defender does.
>80% of his content is exactly the same thing over and over
>the rest of it is him giving very mild and unoriginal advice
>incredibly stubborn about doing things his way regardless of what others say despite trying to play the humble man.
>hes already given out all of his specialist knowledge years ago and is now just coasting off of doing 'response to comments' videos
also
>is just being played like a puppet by his friend who produces the videos
aren't you late for your shift at the Black person store?
Guess you should watch garandthumb instead then. Lmao.
>will brainlets ever realize the error of their ways?
Frick off back to rebbit, homo
This board appreciates Harrell
gtfo homosexual tourist
What gear is Paul wearing here?
Just ALICE gear. It's comfy and cheap
You are correct that it is cheap.
paul is fricking boring anon get over it
He’s only boring to sub 90 iq Neanderthals actually
>digits confirm
Brainlets permanently BTFO with zero chance of recovery. Absolutely rekt
>listening to someone shoot and say numbers for 15 minutes is MENSA memeber shit
Gen Zs first father figure, let them have it.
Demoranch is probably more your speed brother.
>I remember when I was 13yo
anon just because theres a lot of talking doesn't automatically mean its intelligent. paul says almost the exact same words in every video. all he does is ammo testing, stupid question answering and giving his thoughts on hot topics related to guns. his shooting isn't even interesting, he is a good shot but all he does is slow-fire (inb4 you pretend to act like this is better than le zoomy zoom cqb magdumping).
It’s better than literally any other gun channel (other than forgotten weapons) when it comes to gaining knowledge of firearms and ammunition. But please, be my guest and go watch granddumb mag dump a ballistic gel dummy from 8 ft away and miss 3 out of 10 shots. Very informative
>please, be my guest and go watch granddumb mag dump a ballistic gel dummy from 8 ft away and miss 3 out of 10 shots
Holy shit this, I thought I was the only one to notice but that dude is a terrible shot
That’s why they never let him deploy, they considered him a liability to friendly troops in his vicinity. Then they forced him to fake an injury and make a YouTube channel
Honestly, that sounds about right…
>gaining knowledge of firearms and ammunition
everything paul teaches is first-year gun owner shit, and he teaches the exact same thing every video.
Well it’s good for first year gun owners then. The ammunition info he provides is good for even 20 year gun owners who don’t get the opportunities to use those ammos often. Maybe you would be more interested in finding out which striker fired plastic garbage is best is -40 degree weather becuase that’s just so useful
>it’s good for first year gun owners then.
no its not lol its way too dry and paul is super off-putting for non-weirdos. most people are just gonna watch some NRA-TV video if anything. this is the problem, paul caters to gun newbies but his audience are all intermediate gun people who just like hearing someone tell them what they know.
Like I said, demoranch is more your speed bud
>i have run out of things to say so i will just repeat what i said earlier to get the last word in
>wahhh
>people don’t like the same thing as meeeee
>wahhhhhh
Gunna cry gay? Piss your pants? Shit and cum maybe?
>Muh Paul sucks cause he talks a lot and I don’t understand bigword
>Bigword make me mad, make brain hurt
>oogah boogah you say same thing twice I have now won arugement
>me go magdump glock at target 3 ft away now cause me bigman
>me put big boy pants on today
Holy shit
>bigword
paul uses common language in almost every video, i have no idea where you're getting this idea that his channel is for MENSA memebers only. this is like someone on 2006 saying the daily show is smart comedy for intelligent people.
Dude just stop, anon made a fool of you
>p-pls just be btfo already i don't have any more arguments!
ive yet to hear you say anything that wasn't entirely emotionally driven.
It’s alright anon, I’m on your side. These guys just don’t get it. We’re the cool ones!
Fricking lmao this is really how newbie gunowners be
>it’s ogre glockbros
On no, guess I'll stop doing bill drills because anonymous doesn't understand basic training drills.
>me magdump target 2 ft away
>me doin a heckin training
>me super larperator now
>basically Wyatt Earp cause accurazy
>me fastest gun in the west
yes, yes. 3 feet is the same as 7 yards. Obviously I meant 2 feet.
Try doing some actual drills at the range. Touch grass and all that.
T. doesntownguns
>my sides
This tbh but only because old boomers shoot snub noses incredibly good.
He also did better with his revolver than the auto he was using
revolvers can be reloaded
Very few people will ever be as smooth and methodical as that animation. "Push" style speed loaders also have a large flaw in that they can lose rounds if bumped. I like them despite the flaw and still use them, but when you go to reload and come up empty or with like 3 rounds attached it's a bit of a buzz kill.
I carried a Safariland comp 1 speed loader when I carried a 442, and now a comp 2 with my 856. I never had it drop any rounds while sitting in my pocket.
I carried speed beez and never had any issue.
Ask the miami FBI office how well that works
Their mouths are too full of Black person boots and gay wiener to answer
If you think the frickup at Miami-Dade was because of the agents with revolvers, then you have literally no understanding of what happened there.
source?
You're always "that weird gun guy" until they're screaming "SAVE US WEIRD GUN GUY" or "PLEASE DONT KILL US WEIRD GUN GUY"
>>m-muh 5 shot 38 short and weak special bus i-is p-perfectly adequate guise!
tbh it's a do-able shot, but at that range I'd have no problem running the other direction and then sleeping like a baby aftwards. I carry a gun to protect myself. If those people were concerned about their protection they'd have had their own gun and shot the guy themselves.
Paul Harrell tested the 40 yard shots, and with a 638 as well.
O B S O L E T E U P O N C R E A T I O N.
That guy did a fantastic job. I don’t know if I could do the same. I’m not as good as I could be with pistols. Need more practice.
That said, a snub is for deleting Blacks and Yoko Ono enthusiasts at super-close range, not so much for 40 yard shots. Though I bet there are plenty of people here who could do it.
40 yards isn't hard for center of available mass shots. There's no shot placement though, unless the torso counts.
.357 out of a five or six inch barrel.
Stops anything still alive on this continent.
>9 posts by this ID
You don’t believe Hilary hole?
lol that wasn't a defensive shooting. It was an offensive shooting. The only reason for a CCW to exist is to allow you to break contact and live. That homosexual could have run away he was in no danger but chose to engage. I ain't no sheepdawg. My gun is for the protection of me and mine. Everyone else is on their own.
Protecting yourself or others is a legal self defense shooting.
I never said it wasn't legal. I said it wasn't defense because that gay was in no danger he couldn't easily have run from.
>that gay
Are you salty about it or something? He likely saved dozens of lives, for all we know it may have been the new high score otherwise. This "breaking contact" shit has always been a meme. What if you yourself were 40 yards away? Then what, suppressive firing until you can sprint away?
No I just don't feel the desire to risk my life for strangers which seems to get a lot of salty replies. I'm glad he did it. It was good for 2A optics. It just ain't me bro.
>ain't me
I dunno, you sure look like a senator's son.
>that chubby goober could outrun boolits
Is coming to the defense of others not defense moron?
Engaging someone who isn't actively engaging you is not self defense. That gay had no obligation to go save anyone. He probably saved the lives of vacks-maxxed mask cucks who voted to remove his right to own a gun more than once in their lives.
It's time to go back.
There's no going back after the last two years bro. Walking around in a sea of compliant sheeple changed my outlook on civic duty forever. The country I was raised to believe in never existed. It was just a psyop to keep everyone feeding the beast with the productivity of the ours of their life.
This you?
it's time to go back bud. For real you have spent too long here.
Sheep dogs are the ones running around looking for active shooters on their blotters dipass.
Dipass? cool word gramps. Maybe find a coffin to get some rest in comfortably away from society since the only thing you seem interested in is complaining about others doing things with their lives. Better yet go socialize with real people and take your meds and act like a real person.
Peace the frick out.
>is wrong
>cries
lmao, it's a meme you dip.
>This you?
No I'm one of the "just wanted to grill" bros.
>not shooting the drugged up glowBlack person patsy before he can kill others, just to know you've put several months of FBI grooming to waste
You do you bro. I'm not putting my life and the contribution to my family over that life on the line for strangers.
Pussy
homosexual moron
Can't decide if demoralized Black person cattle or a glowie salty that his work of 3 years went to waste after 15 seconds because some chubby weirdo crack shot was packing.
Just a PC unconcerned with NPCs.
Could have done it in 1 if it was a headshot
but it did stop him