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why isn't Russia doing this?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The people who know how to do this don't exist any more

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      False. The problem is that no one has the currency to do this anymore since 1971.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The problem is that no one has the currency to do this anymore since 1971.
        the problem isn't the lack of money, the problem is no matter how much money you put on table factories and personnel don't appear out of thin air

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And even if you have a factory with all the machines and employees, you don’t suddenly have a working production line. The product we are talking about in this case is highly complex and has many non COTS components. Things like this have to be planned years in advance.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is money. It is always money. Russia could build factories, train a workforce, and pump out endless T90's like it was world war 2 but they don't have 15 trillion dollars with which to do so. The same applies to America now too.

          Russia and the west are all bankrupt but they hide it with money printing. If you went crazy with ww2 level mass production the inflation would be so crazy that you wouldn't be able to hide the national debt insolvency anymore. The solution? Maintain the economic status quo and have Russian soldiers make do with T55's because soldiers are disposable anyways. Problem solved.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia can’t, and it’s not because they are bankrupt. The country has one of the lowest debt/GDP ratios in the world.
            It’s because their currency is not freely convertible, they are sanctioned to oblivion and are also subject to serious brain drain.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It’s because their currency is not freely convertible, they are sanctioned to oblivion and are also subject to serious brain drain.
              So its a money problem like I said? Ok.

              >Russia and the west are all bankrupt but they hide it with money printing.

              Literally not how monetary policy works, dumbass.

              >Literally not how monetary policy works, dumbass.
              That's exactly how (Keynesian) monetary policy works. But for the sake of argument, explain to me how YOU think monetary policy works.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What do you think money is, retard? It's a proxy for barter, whether that's food and clothes or a multi-billion dollar factory. Russia does not have:
                >The means to proxy this barter (ruble is basically a soviet-tier monopoly currency not usable or exchangeable outside of russia)
                >The trust of anyone making deals with them
                >Any access to the entities which have the resources, technology, personnel, etc that russia wants to barter for
                Russia could have ten trillion dollars cash right now and it wouldn't do them any good, because they've been locked out of the marketplace. The only guys they have left are the mobsters and hobos (China, India, etc) willing to smuggle things out of the market - but of course, the best things are never within their reach.

                Russia is completely unable to develop new and modern industry. All they can utilize is what they already had, and they have a disturbingly primitive industrial sector. They can't make a modern tank hull, let alone any of the electronics to go inside of it. They can't make aircraft parts, they can't make computer systems (or advanced software), they can't make anything except for crude materials which can easily be sourced elsewhere. It's unironically just over for Russia as any kind of economic or political power.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think people have a lot of trouble understanding that mechanical engineering is not a universally solved problem.

                They think everything can just be copied or 3D printed. The idea that an aeroengine manufacturer has an innovation in say, processes around metallurgy seems like something from a 1950s novel. Just copy it bro. The idea that if Germany, the US and say the Netherlands won't sell you a specific type of precision tooling, there isn't anywhere else in the world to get it from just seems ridiculous.

                I think its something to do with the whole growing up with the internet thing where everything seems like it can be made digital and physical stuff can't be that hard anymore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon you can ride the money train as long as you want, it wont become more true.
                fact: russia currently can just force you to work for free they are already doing this
                fact: if russia suddenly got 1000000bln of dollars they still couldnt find: workers, managers, engineers, production planners, quality engineers
                fact: russia cant import because of sanctions, they couldnt import thermals, electronics etc... even if they had said 100000 bln dollars.
                fact: youre a massive fagot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You said they were bankrupt, which is not the case. They indeed have a money problem, with their currency not being accepted anywhere.

                https://i.imgur.com/dWwRi4r.jpg

                What do you think money is, retard? It's a proxy for barter, whether that's food and clothes or a multi-billion dollar factory. Russia does not have:
                >The means to proxy this barter (ruble is basically a soviet-tier monopoly currency not usable or exchangeable outside of russia)
                >The trust of anyone making deals with them
                >Any access to the entities which have the resources, technology, personnel, etc that russia wants to barter for
                Russia could have ten trillion dollars cash right now and it wouldn't do them any good, because they've been locked out of the marketplace. The only guys they have left are the mobsters and hobos (China, India, etc) willing to smuggle things out of the market - but of course, the best things are never within their reach.

                Russia is completely unable to develop new and modern industry. All they can utilize is what they already had, and they have a disturbingly primitive industrial sector. They can't make a modern tank hull, let alone any of the electronics to go inside of it. They can't make aircraft parts, they can't make computer systems (or advanced software), they can't make anything except for crude materials which can easily be sourced elsewhere. It's unironically just over for Russia as any kind of economic or political power.

                I think people have a lot of trouble understanding that mechanical engineering is not a universally solved problem.

                They think everything can just be copied or 3D printed. The idea that an aeroengine manufacturer has an innovation in say, processes around metallurgy seems like something from a 1950s novel. Just copy it bro. The idea that if Germany, the US and say the Netherlands won't sell you a specific type of precision tooling, there isn't anywhere else in the world to get it from just seems ridiculous.

                I think its something to do with the whole growing up with the internet thing where everything seems like it can be made digital and physical stuff can't be that hard anymore.

                Most people have little to no understanding how international trade and finance work. Or production.
                As if even if you had a factory with all equipment and the workers you magically have a working production process.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The country has one of the lowest debt/GDP ratios in the world.
              Notice the glavset cock trying to sneak his propaganda in unrelated conversations like the weasely little cockbite he is. What a retarded whore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you read the post? This is not a good thing. Russia has very little debt for a reason, nobody wants to loan them money.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They do not. Why bark RT nonsense with the best intentions at all?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They indeed have very little debt, refer to

                https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.DOD.TOTL.GD.ZS?locations=RU

                And it’s very bad. Even at this low debt ratio, 10 year bond yields are at 10%.
                Meanwhile 10 year japanese bond yield is below 1%, even though Japan has way more than 200% of debt relative to GDP.

                Nobody is willing to buy russian government debt unless with a big risk premium. Their currency is not freely convertible, meaning that they hand out bonds in other currency, usually USD or EUR. Because nobody wants their shitty currency. There is nothing you can buy with it. You also never have excess Ruble, because nothing they are selling internationally is traded in Ruble.
                Russia has huge USD reserves from energy trades, but it can’t use them. Because, again, they are locked out from the majority of global trade. They are also in part forced to hold those to reduce bond yields.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not always money, glorious Juche sidesteps this problem.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia and the west are all bankrupt but they hide it with money printing.

            Literally not how monetary policy works, dumbass.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Money doesn't matter if you can't marshal it effectively. Russia had shitloads of revenue over the last 20 years. It all got stolen.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they can't for a whole variety of shortcomings in their industrial and tech centers.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is to the USSR as the Frankish empire was to the Roman Empire. It is a skin-walker country.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >skin-walker country
      Dude, you've just put into words a thought I had for the longest time
      Thanks!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Carolingian architecture is based
      Russia also apes Rome openly, and more poorly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah sure. Meanwhile non vatniks who were stuck in it are saying it was just as shit back then. Even laughing as ziggers are riding into combat with the exact same equipment they used to steal fuel/parts from. There was more shit to throw around and the litmus test for the "stronk red army" was gulf war 1991 where its top grade clone went head on against top grade western military.

      It is pretty much only turdies and westerners who are in denial about it. Just like the latter were in strong denial about steppe ziggers being steppe ziggers no matter what flag they are waving pre 2014

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Red Army had five million guys even in the late 80s.

        Modern Russia doesn't even have quantity to offset the lack of quality. It's just actually crap and not enough of it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Should be re-emphasized that the USSR pre-collapse was 280 million dudes. The Russian Federation in 2022 is still only half the number. They don't have the resources and manpower of the Red Army.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It would be bad for the Russian economy and it also means Russian is Ukraine’s peer, not NATO

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wood villas are more important

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What makes you think that they aren't doing that?? For all we know there could be a massive tank factory in siberia pumping out 100s of tanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What makes you think that they aren't doing that?? For all we know there could be a massive tank factory in siberia pumping out 100s of tanks
      Apparently you haven't heard of satellite imagery

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously they have completely self-sustained underground factories under the permafrost in Siberia.
        Nothing comes in, nothing leaves, until one day they suddenly reveal millions on tanks at once.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I am sure the satellites havent noticed such a super secret factory yet.

        And what makes you think that russia didn't have the tech to hide their factory from satellites prying eye?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because russia is a shithole that sells even their nuclear secrets on the dark web

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you think the USA hasnt developed AT-ATs that can be dropped from their secret space stations?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >russia
          >have the tech

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You underestimate how much of a backwards shit hole Russia is. There are reasons why Russians are so amazed that the average Ukrainian house has washing machines and toilets inside. Fuckers barely understand central heating.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And what makes you think that russia didn't have the tech to hide their factory from satellites prying eye?
          What makes you think that USA doesn't have tech that sees factories hiding from satellites?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ahh yes, Russia has klingon cloaking field tech able to hide massive infrastructure and movements of men and materiel from sat surveillance. Fascinating story.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's the CIA's team B logic, if you cant see it, they have it but its so advanced it's invisible to sensors, this was genuine cold war thinking and it seems many bought into the idea that Russia is advanced and strong.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ironically Putin has meanwhile committed himself into a fight he can't win by not thinking there could be more than he could see

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It seems he is winning

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Putin already lost

                >In the late first millennium of the Diaspora of Man, the Slav Supremacists of Ukraine decided to create a superior human. Their genetic laboratories produced a line of "super soldiers" with enhanced strength, better reflexes, faster healing, and (allegedly) enhanced intelligence. These soldiers were then used to attack other nations in an attempt to gain dominion over the planet.

                >[..]

                >At this point, the Confederacy was in the process of defeating the Ukrainians, but the chaos and political infighting after the coup turned the war in Europe around. The Western European nations had been busy genetically modifying diseases such as anthrax, botulism, bubonic plague, meningitis, typhus, cholera, and the Ebola virus. Having integrated "kill switches" and stockpiled disease-specific vaccines, they believed themselves to be safe and employed the weaponized diseases against the Asians. Initially, they had almost exactly the desired effect, but after three T-years the pathogens started spreading and mutating among the civilian population, and eventually found their way back to Europe, largely immune to the vaccines their creators expected to protect them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not by any sensible metric. Hiring you seems like a loss, frankly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just because they had the tech in Rise of the Reds doesn't mean they have it in reality, dumbass.
          Besides if they have that, then we have particle cannon equipped satellites

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Besides if they have that, then we have particle cannon equipped satellites
            They weren't supposed to know about the satellites, dumbass.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gap generator is allied tech

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, I am sure the satellites havent noticed such a super secret factory yet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      And what makes you think that russia didn't have the tech to hide their factory from satellites prying eye?

      Because if they did it would be shilled relentlessly on PrepHole

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because if they had one they would be telling the world they have ten.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They only need shells.
    How do you make shells? The outer casing is made of sheet metal and spun? Or are these made with a press and a mold?
    Then the explosive is poured in molten i believe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most factories press hot billets into a mold I think. Then they do whatever machining is necessary to attach fuses and so forth.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western sanctions

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ural-vagon-factory is the only one that does tanks now
    it works at max capacity
    they supply ~40 tanks/month (refurbished, repaired and new)
    russia does not picrel because it's a slow bureaucracy. also they dont think they need to.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can still do that and get a lot of T-34s. Which are useless in moder warfare.

    What they need is modern tanks which have a lot of specialized components.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t-34s aren't useless in modern warfare, their flaming wreckage could be used to keep conscripts warm, and particularly interesting wrecked t-34s could be used as landmarks for the conscripts whose officer got blown up with all their maps. I'm sure the Russian military could come up with a million useful ways to employ the T-34 on the modern battlefield.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't even have that many working T-34s left. They had to buy back some from Vietnam and Laos that were being used for training/static defense for use in parades.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they 1 to 1 traded upgraded t72s for those t34s

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cargo cult country is waiting for the First World Gods to give them a Lend-Lease deal. So they can take everything and default on payments.

    Looters gonna loot, morons gonna nigg.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Modern or even semi-modern military hardware is complicated and expensive, Russia has the biggest tank plant on the planet yet it still can't produce more than a couple hundred tanks per year. In 2008 they've produced 175 although only 1/3rd of the plant's production was tanks so if they switch fully to military production and increase shifts this number might be several times bigger althouh considering sanctions and shortages their quality might be dubious
    In any case whatever Russia's doing is not sustainable in the slightest as proven by the fact they have to take T-62s out of deep storage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. The issue is a little more nuanced than shills for both sides suggest, but it boils down to production capacity that can be calculated with decent accuracy.
      Modern tanks need lots of specialized equipment to build that needs a lot of specialized workers to operate. Even if we don’t include servicing machines, replacing tools etc, it should be clear to anybody that there is a hard limit on current production and expanding it significantly takes years, if not decades.
      Obviously production does not keep up with losses to combat and general wear, hence the aforementioned pulling of T62s.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because everything you need for those tanks could be made in (soviet)Russia.
    Modern tanks need stuff Russia can't make themselves.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oligarchs can't have their yachts if they invest the money to industry. Yachts are more important than industry.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the Sherman, while very respectable in the 1940s, is a very obsolete vehicle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It could still tear new ones into BMPs and T-72s and T-64s, even Bradleys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its optical suite and fire stabilization, although very impressive by WW2 standards, is certainly quite outdated today.

        But funnily enough, the frontal armor can resist at least some autocannon fire and the M319 HVAP rounds probably still pack enough punch to take out IFVs as well as most Russian tanks from the side. The cannon on the T-62 likely doesn't even do vastly better with the early gen APFSDS they're issuing it lol.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it just needs some upgrades bro

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we should put an ATGM launcher on it, what do you say?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tanks are harder to produce nowadays than they were in the 40s. A lot of key components to build modern/semi modern tanks are unattainable for Russia so the 30 new tanks they get per month is about as fast as you can go. In a couple months maybe they start ordering chink tanks but for now they are fine

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can’t, as western electronics needed for thay is under sanctions

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    According to the swarm of vatmoron trolls infesting the board ... they are.

    There seems to be some doubt on that, though.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Kremlin has been trying to walk a tightrope of keeping the population calm and depoliticized while transitioning society and the economy onto a war footing, it can't be done quickly or people will panic (you saw it during the mobilization fiasco) but the central government has been slowly passing legislation to force private industry to begin making war materials and doubling and tripling shifts. This isn't a defensive war like WW2 and most Russians have really only accepted Putin remaining in power for so long because there has been an unofficial compact between the population and the state where they cede all political agency to the state and the state won't interfere with the population's ability to subsist. This war is already undermining that compact in fits and starts and further mobilization/nationalization of the economy will only strain it further. To make matters worse Russian industry can not domestically produce a lot of the more advanced components for their modern military equipment AND the demographic being targeted for mobilization is the same as the one that would work in these factories.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is true, I read that Uralvagonzavod works 24/7 now

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know how there's a new car shortage because chips? We sanctioned those chips from Russia too. They have to get them from the second hand market to put in their tanks. Among all the other advanced parts. It's fucking comedic.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think they do attempt to work in three shifts but I am not sure they produce all that much regardless... probably for many reasons.

    That said the west or Ukraine also isn't running such factory lines yet for vehicles at least, as far as I can tell. Isn't that an equally big failure?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's quite simple really

    >Not enough money
    >Not enough skilled workers
    >Too much corruption
    >Not enough factories

    They could hypothetically do it if they put all of their money and effort into it but it would destroy the already fragile Russian economy.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ChTZ most likely making tanks is btrs right now

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are making a decent number of tanks, mostly refreshing boneyard T-72s and T-80s, the problem is that this isn't enough in modern war.
    You need the microelectronics side and Russia cannot produce this.

    IMO what Russia would need to stay in the war long term is Chinese industrial support, but this is a big question mark.
    So far the Chinese seem very hesitant to do that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So far the Chinese seem very hesitant to do that.
      We need to keep coming up with ways to make China even more hesitant to consider that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I read Russia has a plan to start making microchips on its own.

        It will probably be less advanced as the chinese one, but that will make them independent

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That takes literal years of construction to even try, and you still end up with a kneecapped product. That's why even the USA let their chip factories wither (though they're building more).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they can certainly try

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't believe it's a big question mark. China does not want to be seen as a country who supports wars of aggression. It would diminish China's good relations with Central Asian countries such as Kazakhstan, who are certainly against Russia's invasion, and would further disrupt their Belt and Road Initiative. China just doesn't really have a dog in the fight. This is a war far away in Europe, not in their own backyard. And it's quite telling that China has begun cosying back up to the EU as shown by Xi's meeting Scholz, much to Russia's annoyance.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure nobody can retool their civilian industry to produce modern combat vehicles, tank isn't just slabs of steel welded together these days. Difference is american peace time military production probably outsizes russia's ten times over, but it's not gonna grow much larger than that in case of war I don't think

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't have the industrial capacity. They did it during WWII because the US sent them entire factories, boatloads of parts, specialty machinery, etc. But they don't have that anymore.

    Here's an example. This machine is called an upsetter, it grabs a big metal bar and smashes the end of it, like making the head on a nail, only much much bigger. This makes tank roadwheels, truck axles, all kinds of other stuff. This particular one was sent by the US to Russia during lend-lease. Then a few years ago, after it finally wore out after decades of service running 3 shifts a day, it was shipped back to Ohio to be refurbished where it was built.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...and here is the several hundred ton main casting being trucked back to the factory for repair.
      Think about how much this machine is actually worth for people to bother dragging that much weight all the way around to the other side of the world. Even though it is decades old there are only a handful of machines of this kind of capability in the world. And they ain't in Russia anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here's another example, though this is not in Russia. You want to make tanks? You need a vertical boring mill like this to make the turret ring. The West provided these to Russia back during WWII. How many you think the Russians have working now? How many people do they have who know how to run them?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          None, they have trouble simply with precision milling of roller bearings/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Boy, if we happened to know exactly where that is located and (someone accidentally) dropped a bunker buster on it ....

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A few years ago it was for sale at an industrial machiery dealer in the US. IIRC asking price was $15 million, which is probably less than it costs to move.
          https://www.forgemag.com/articles/84490-ohio-built-upsetter-from-soviet-union-returns-for-rebuilding

          https://www.trueforge.com/View/9-National-High-Duty-Heavy-Upset-Forging-Machine-Upsetter-has-never-been-cracked-Re24440

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These machines usually are one of a kind. They are all purpose built and last forever. Even though the SU/Russia definitely had/has the capability to make those, it takes a very long time, is ridiculously expensive and you usually don’t do it while there are still machines available.
        Just look at .30 barrels still being made in Russia for machine guns, just because the bongs sent them machinery almost 140 years ago.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >last forever
          Oh, I am laffin
          t. industrial maintenance tech

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shermans are too advanced for Russia to produce.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good luck trying to stick a bunch of softhanded Muscovites into the tractor factories

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why isn't Russia doing this?
    Russia is like from a 1950s sci-fi novel about a galactic empire falling into a dark age and starting to believe in magic

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when a country does this will it be a free market governed enterprise or a centralized public one given the guber is the only one buying tanks and shit

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is why isn't Yurop and America doing this?

    Even if you exclude the G*rmans who obviously wanted Russia to win so they can return to the status quo, no reason for Bongs, Froggies and Burgers to not mass produce NLAWs, CAESAR, HIMARS along with ammunition.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yurop
      Depends on what you count as Yurop. I'm ready to bet my best testicle that factories in Ukraine and Poland look approximately the same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because most of these items need specialized components that come from one off production runs that need specialized machines that are either busy doing other stuff or don’t exist at this time.
      Setting up or expanding production for these items is extremely complicated, time consuming and expensive.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They already have thousands of death trap tanks so they don't need Shermans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Less than 1 tanker died per knocked out Sherman on average and that survey also included tanks without wet stowage. I doubt the T-72 preserves the lives of its crews that well.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the machine tools required to do that came from America in WW2, the Stalingrad Tractor Factory was built in Detroit, "Russian" industry is communist propaganda, the T-34 is an American Christie tank, Russia STILL USES the made in detroit WW2 era forges we sent them
    https://detroit.curbed.com/2019/12/13/21012559/albert-kahn-russia-ussr-detroit-world-war-ii

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >going full war economy to win a offensive war with a small shithole country
    >going full war economy to win a war you've been planning for the last 10 years
    It's hilarious and sad that this is what Russia has to do know for a chance at a decisive victory

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      refurbishing a tank and making a tank are 2 different things

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >here's your tank bro!
      >gets ""refurb"" 60 year old tank
      Grim.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Jan 15, 2023 Modified date: 2 hours ago
    https://defence-blog.com/russian-army-receives-new-batch-of-t-90m-tanks/

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Supply chain and logistics. SImply put Complexity of military equipment since WW2 has increased diametrically, and Russia doesn't have domestic production for all the parts like they used to during soviet times.

    Modern warfare is won by logistics and Russia just sucks at it. Even if they are able to make basic stuff. They still need to import from embargo countries all IR, comm equipment, unless they get it from china (that is if chinks are even willing to sell it).

    Also Equipment was never issue for Russia, they had tons of equipment in storage, and some modern few hardware that they had was decent. They were just very stupid about how to use all that equipment. Russian education system failed even the military.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >muh microelectronics
    But there's so many off-the-shelf chips for pretty much any purpose freely sold on the global market with no embargoes, it's unlikely that Russia relies on chips they designed and exclusively use (note: I'm not saying such chips don't exist) for their military if they don't have semiconductor fabs indigenously.

    Point is generic chips are easy to get a hold of and special chips is an issue you can get around, like using FPGAs, so I think the issue is not that microelectronics are unattainable for Russia.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      except you need to source them in bulk and get a mass production process in place you can't really jury rig ad hoc shit for each tank from the back of some workshop, it needs to be an industrial process

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zelenskyy bros, we can't stop winning! The Krauts are sending 10 broken leopard tanks!!! Putler will commmit suicide in the monkebunker just like his idol!

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they can't

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's an American Factory, anon.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it cannot. Russia is not USSR you moron.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they can't.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because they aren backed by allies this time, so fuck allies because you made CCCP win

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of resources and parts. Why are you so goddamn fuckdumb all the time? Your parents seem normal.

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