>Aral Sea still present
Wonder what it feels like knowing that your agricultural policy in the 1960s has welded the Central Asian states to Uzbekistan. That's where Europe's Uranium is going to be coming from.
Why do you think PrepHole is allowed to stay up? You don't think that's weird? That in this woke age, THIS place is somehow allowed to exist? It's because PrepHole has been totally repurposed for shilling narratives and inflicting psychological damage on the people who visit the site. PrepHole is almost all >People who obviously hate Russia because of 2016 election narratives >literal CIA talking points on how invincible Ukraine is >moronic covid vaccine conspiracy shit >BBC porn >X group of white people isn't actually white >"third worldist," "duginist," bullshit >seed oils
Some boards are still good, but most are totally fricked now. That's what happens after 6 plus years of nonstop shilling and psyops.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Take your meds
2 years ago
Anonymous
>X group of white people isn't actually white
Only continental Germanic people are white though. >slavs aren't white >balts aren't white >anglo mutts aren't white >celts aren't white >baltics aren't white >meds aren't white
2 years ago
Anonymous
>only the people who never invented anything and destroyed europe more than once are white
ftfy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit its true then! White people actually have no culture!
>t. seething vatBlack person
https://i.imgur.com/A69yRsV.png
Is there any real reason for Belarussian and Russian citizens not to depose their rulers at this point? They'd get everything they could ever need by siding with the west. Jobs, wealth, investments, tech, culture and so forth. It'd completely revitalize their countries and all they really need to do is adopt non-moronic economic policies, be friendly to their neighbors and that'd be that.
Meanwhile their leaders constantly stumble like morons at the complete mercy of internet OSINT, NATO intelligence and just a few crumbs of western military tech. It's embarrassing.
What makes a reason real for you?
The russians have a reputation for political apathy and numbing themselves with alcohol and drugs from their existence.
Add the tendency of the security apparatus to violent repression and I'd argue most aren't motivated to risk change. Especially with s history of constant oppression with revolutions only enacting a new oppressive regime.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit its true then! White people actually have no culture!
2 years ago
Anonymous
logged in just to tell you to take your meds
2 years ago
Anonymous
>wall of text
yeah dude youve been here a long time
Personally I have a lifted truck for cruising and a van for transporting and towing stuff, also means I can work on one and use the other at the same time
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Magatard outs himself as a complete twat who drives a homosexual lifted truck for "cruising"
Why am I not surprised?
2 years ago
Anonymous
How much of an urbanized homosexual would you have to be to have a problem with someone driving their own vehicle for fun?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"cruising"
youre either too poor to afford a car or some feminine homosexual who's dad was too disappointed to teach them to drive
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lmao I have a hitch like that for the landie (though not quite as excessive)
I hooked a flat trailer up it using a normal hitch once for shots and gigs and it turned into a bike ramp
Johnathon Freedomburger from iowa oblast of US america here and I am much obliged for this thoughtful posting pulling back curtains from big media troony oppression of Russia's antyNazi effort!
Unironic answer? Tied up in a city for a third of it, the Pontoon bridge incident(s) preventing a true pincer, a third was/is open fields where any movement would instantly be seen and stalled, and now logistically strained due to western PGMs.
>and now logistically strained due to western PGMs.
Just wait until autumn when the road turns to mud, then we'll see a real logistical challenge. Long lines and poor roads will make current tactics for Russia difficult to say the least.
>what went wrong
Everything. They went in with false expectations about ukrainian combat capability and local support for russia. No consideration for such widespread NATO support, troops on the ground weren't prepared for action, corruption in logistics selling equipment, bad training and unit cohesion etc. etc.
>source is unbiased and totally 100% the most reliable source of info on their enemy and would never mislead
Anon, please call your handler and ask for help
The whole Sievierodonestk battle was basically to secure less than 1% of Ukrainian territory, quite literally World War 1 shit, likely with similar casualties.
That's sort of the funny thing you see with the vatniks, there's dozens of assaults that went in there for fricking months on end and for every assault that is repulsed- you're talking about casualties. Normal humans will be combat ineffective or reduced drastically by about 20% being in bags or out of action, orcs are also ineffective at 20% but they make them stick around until they take 40-50% (or higher) casualties because its basically funny and they have shit command-control over their troops.
Guess the nice thing about advancing after arty barrages into the failed assault zones is that they'd chum up the remains of the last 8 attacks that went in and didn't come out, so you know, don't have to look at your dead buds from another company or at least if its just meat bits then convince yourself its not your mates getting fricking smashed into food for the crows.
If I'm honest, I wasn't a fan of the Ukrainian idea of attrition warfare in a defence situation when I noticed it happening. Mostly because its something as a (former) military guy you don't ever really want to find yourself in or have to deal with the constant pressure of defence in depth having to be on its toes to deal with probing attacks and assaults. But in this instance its working really nasty. >Ukraine loses territory, gains time and save casualties >Russia uses artillery, armour and casualties to gain territory
That constant grist-mill of turnover of units, being rendered ineffective and finding more meat, metal and shells to keep shoving in there, knowing at some point you might get low of one of those three and find yourself being pushed back, losing all that territory in moments that took weeks to carve out of enemy hands.
Time is the biggest killer, the longer your in the firing line, there's just an inevitability you get hit and that's just the units your running, not factoring in some fricking idiot managing to bungle something else that leaves you wide open
loses territory, gains time and save casualties
uses artillery, armour and casualties to gain territory
That what I've been thinking for sometime now.
But /k/ is also sometimes just like /misc/ >huuuurr, look at that. >huuuurr, look at this
With HIMAR now and later if it's proven to be successful, the A10.
This will be the end of Russia in this war, they will lose Crimea and all their gains.
And other Russian cities around Ukraine is going to get flatten, demilitarize by the Ukraine or use as leverage for POW transfers
If Russia has two obvious failings in this war its >C2 (command and control) >Logistics
The nasty thing about attrition warfare is that it catches up with you when you're on the offensive, you need to take breaks to replenish ammo, gear and reconstitute units with their replacements, then factor in a lot of their top-order officers tend to meet messy ends in some kind of death from above incident which really throws out an invasion forces tempo. But the critical thing is you want the defensive force running counter to your operational tempo so they're always on the back foot having to throw some kind of counter in here, there and not enough chance to take a break and optimise a counter attack.
So when you do have to take a break from offensive actions its a huge risk, you can't maintain that tempo of conflict then they'll just creep up all the time and with HIMARS and other strikes deep into the held territory which is killing off radar, comms systems, C2 ops areas and munitions- that's a bad place to be. If your guys and armour are only able to take ground by dying, using big tonnage of artillery throw weights and breaking their tanks on defence in depth. Well, we know how that turns out, Rommel found that out the hard way trying to make the ANZAC forces in north Africa 'go away' and failed dismally once his supply lines are decimated by the forces out of Malta and his forces were ground into attrition.
I think they're going to be in big trouble sooner or later, the cracks have been there from the start and while they can fill them with raw meat, armour and ammo it will only go so far as the original problem for its cause for it being broken hasn't been addressed yet.
>shitter screencap coping about Amerimutt terrorists losing 30km of occupied territory just last month >Amerimutts genetically unable to read maps will unironically believe this
>year 13, day 165 >/k/opers seething about 5th russian recapture of donetsk >russian victory close at hand, western media trying to berry this >defence minister Strelkov says Putin remains in very good health, amazes his doctors daily
Heh. According to this map, Ukraine is about to take Mariupol, cutting off the Crimean land bridge; and Ukraine is taking Bilovods'k, potentially threatening Luhansk and Donetsk soon.
seriously, i can go thorough the archives and find the exact opposite reality you are trying to gaslight with
but why? and how? how did your type of poster even get this far into the internet?
>seriously, i can go thorough the archives
Way ahead of you, revisionist nerverserved little pussy. Observe you and your buddies getting rekt:
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/53949609
like most of this website /k/ is populated with emotionally immature autists, they cant cope with the fact that russia will simply throw men at the war until the east is under their control and it wont hurt moscow one bit because the west cucked out on green energy and china a long time ago.
so they cling to anything they see as a victory even if its moronic
>russia will simply throw men at the war until the east is under their control and it wont hurt moscow one bit because the west cucked out on green energy and china a long time ago
you'll see, and once the east is russian the west of ukraine will just become more cucked and more americanized and more communist till its no different than California.
your insane fantasy of these nazi heroes fighting for a dancing israelite and Joe Biden is fricking laughable
>russia will simply throw men at the war
You mean the made-up ones? The kind of men that didn't exist until they literally appeared as +20 year-olds in their censuses? The ones that have a 25% of either suffering from crippling Krokodil addiction, alcoholism, Tuberculosis, or HIV (each a separate roll, by the way)?
I wonder why russia has shifted to just demolishing the ukraine lol. >Me be shacking in me boots!
you should be, idk what country your in but chances are its gonna become a communist shithole full of Black folk within 5 years
>I wonder why russia has shifted to just demolishing the ukraine
Because their borders are terrible, with no natural barriers, and not enough population centres to generate any kind of protection. That makes them paranoid. >also go leave, you're clearly way too focused on Black folk
>focuses on random slavic shitholes rather than his own country
okay moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>too dumb to understand geopolitics >calls others morons
2 years ago
Anonymous
you have leaders who hate you and want you dead and you think they will fight for your best interests half a world away? really moron?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Who am I in your head?
2 years ago
Anonymous
anyone west of Poland
2 years ago
Anonymous
>half the fricking world
that really narrows it down moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah its almost like the israelites and commies have already thoroughly infiltrated nearly every western government
2 years ago
Anonymous
>anyone not sucking the monke's wiener is a globohomosexual commie israelite
We weren't the ones reminiscing about the good ol' soviet days and bring mudslime chechen Black folk to murder and rape white people.
Gulaghomosexual is just like globohomosexual but with more aids.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I never once defended russia I just said they are most likely going to retake the west. overly emotional morons like you who wanna cry and scream because all of a sudden you have been told to care are whats ruined the west
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I never once defended russia I just said they are most likely going to retake the west
Nah. Ever since the Convoy to Kyiv NATO knows that they would absolutely obliterate Russia in a conventional war. At first they were all really excited until they realised that Russia had nothing to lose once they were done with Ukraine and were facing down NATO.
And once NATO wins there's two routes the Russians can go:
1: Accept a humiliating surrender and restoration of the borders from 2014.
2: Escalate to nukes.
Your guess is as good as mine which route the Russians would take, but it's NATO's position that they would absolutely escalate to nukes unless they couldn't even start a conventional war against Poland. Which is why Ukraine is being kept alive: every player knows that the Russian army must die in Ukraine for this to not escalate into a nuclear war.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>1: Accept a humiliating surrender and restoration of the borders from 2014. >2: Escalate to nukes.
I would expect an escalation to chemical weapons first. Spread VX on UKR frontlines. Then move 50km forward once the cleanup is done. Repeat. It would not be as politically loaded as using nukes and is easier to use at a tactical level to boot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It would not be as politically loaded as using nukes
And would still trigger an adequate response from HATO. >captcha: RPG x 2
2 years ago
Anonymous
They already tried thermite and phosphorous rounds in Azovstal, the line gets blurry after that. Considering the absolute state, they probably can't even produce nerve agents and other assorted shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Russia’s only problem with Globohomosexual is that it doesn’t give them the pimp hand over the world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Looks like Brandon Gutierrez here knows what’s really going on in America!
Naturally because Russians see any weak neighbor and think rape, they believe every other nation is the same. Hence why instead of developing into a cooperative first world nation, they decide to act like apes. Projection and Paranoia is the national wienertail of Russia.
Doesn't matter. It's what the Russians believe, courtesy of being invaded some fifty-odd times in their history.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>russians believe >because muh history
more like schizo agitprop by a conman. only a nation that eagerly ate up as much doublethink as marxism could willingly do so again with duginism
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
not an argument, nice try vatnig
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
L
2 years ago
Anonymous
All of this applies to the majority of European countries. Nobody gives a shit, Russians are just savages that will cling to any excuse to further their fruitless imperialist dreams.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>All of this applies to the majority of European countries.
Have you already forgotten what you've never learnt in your history classes? European history is fricking bloody. Of *course* it applies to European countries as well; that's why they were constantly fighting to begin with, and it took an external security guarantor (the US) for the fighting to stop.
Natural borders is such a meme, if you exclude the Baltic countries and Poland, they could achieve this without going to war with NATIO.. but NO, apparently some river in Poland dictates that Russia has to enter a war with NATO to manifest slavic-destiny.
Also lol at Kazakhstan, why would natural borders not apply to them? they are drifting away from Russian influence like Ukraine did 10 years ago, if they annexed Kazakhstan their southern border would be a lot smaller and would include natural barriers i.e. mountains.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Also lol at Kazakhstan, why would natural borders not apply to them?
Who says it doesn't? But right now Kazakhstan isn't drifting away so much that the Russians would intervene - there's the war in Ukraine going on that's binding their troops; there's NATO expansion in Finland going on that's binding their troops; and Kazakhstan wasn't actually supposed to become independent even by Kazakh standards. Nursultan Nazarbayev (the guy who basically owns Kazakhstan) was already around during USSR times and was *against* Kazakh independence because he - probably rightfully - thought that Kazakhstan wouldn't survive without Russian resources (Central Asia is really fricking dry).
How things will stand in 10 years we'll know in 10 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Its just central asia, whats the worst that could happen?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Drought due to the Aral Sea being gone, and a subsequent upheaval in Uzbekistan (because that's essentially the only population centre of note in that region). The Uzbeks are different from the Turkmens or the Kazakhs in that they want to wean off the -Stans from Russian influence (and instead establish their own power base inbetween Iran and Russia). How that's going to play out I don't know, but they certainly got the population down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, my hunch is closer ties to China and potentially some kind of 'stan republic joint trade type of thing. There's plenty of manpower, resources and skilled labour there, plus they did get a decent lump of Russia's 'nope frick this' population that left instead of riding the Putin Express to the bitter end and being drafted.
The sticking point is that China is a right c**t to deal with, but its sort of the lesser or two evils there in some ways
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yeah, my hunch is closer ties to China and potentially some kind of 'stan republic joint trade type of thing.
Unlikely. Sri Lanka isn't even the earliest sign that Belt & Road doesn't work; the Chinese have flung tons of money at the Pakistanis in order to bring up their infrastructure, and not only was the money burnt away by corruption - the money was also more like a credit that the Pakistanis are now refusing to pay back, and there's little the Chinese can do because they have absolutely no ability to project any sort of power.
>There's plenty of manpower, resources and skilled labour there
Where? China? Nah. Their demographics are even worse than apocalysts had predicted, and labour costs have gone through the roof. China also has to import 85% of its energy, to say nothing of the iron, copper, and silicon that they require for their low-end semiconductor production.
And if you mean Central Asia: not really either, no. Because it's so dry the land doesn't lend itself to huge population centres other than the ones in Uzbekistan, which is also the only part of the region that receives any rain at all due to mountains. If there's skilled labour (of which I've never heard of) it's more likely to move to the west than to China.
The only thing they actually produce in any measurable quantity is Uranium.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kazakhstan is a big country
2 years ago
Anonymous
but there's only two big guys in the whole country
2 years ago
Anonymous
Russia had sent troops to Kazakstan to prop up the regime last year. Unfortunately for Russia, they left a very poor impression, but Russia has been doing what they can to keep Kazakhstan in their sphere of influence. I suspect that if Russia’s army wasn’t busy, we’d be seeing military intervention there, but nothing happens in a vacuum.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Natural borders is such a meme, if you exclude the Baltic countries and Poland, they could achieve this without going to war with NATIO.. but NO, apparently some river in Poland dictates that Russia has to enter a war with NATO to manifest slavic-destiny.
Also lol at Kazakhstan, why would natural borders not apply to them? they are drifting away from Russian influence like Ukraine did 10 years ago, if they annexed Kazakhstan their southern border would be a lot smaller and would include natural barriers i.e. mountains.
All of this applies to the majority of European countries. Nobody gives a shit, Russians are just savages that will cling to any excuse to further their fruitless imperialist dreams.
>All of this applies to the majority of European countries.
Have you already forgotten what you've never learnt in your history classes? European history is fricking bloody. Of *course* it applies to European countries as well; that's why they were constantly fighting to begin with, and it took an external security guarantor (the US) for the fighting to stop.
Honestly this whole debacle is causing me to slowly grasp that "alliances" are nonexistent in the old Soviet bloc, in a way that's not immediately apparent to Westerners. For all the bickering and historical bloodshed, there's still something more concrete that exists between the US, UK, France, Germany, Japan, etc. than there is between Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, etc. "US puppet" isn't even really true because while the US is bigger than any of its allies, it's actually NOT bigger than all of its allies combined - America consists of barely a third of the manpower or money in the "American sphere"
I was confused by Luka's constant loud sycophancy towards Russia backed up by absolutely zero actual material support for Russia, I was confused by Kazakhstan being propped up by Russia and responding by essentially fricking them over on their Ukraine invasion anyway, I was even confused the other day by Putin and Erdogan embracing as Turkish weapons continue their unbroken decade of butchering Russian troops and clients.
The crazy thing is, in my own naivete, I had ascribed something higher or more noble to these people, even as adversaries. When in fact the homosexual Reddit "they're literally monsters from (insert shitty scifi/fantasy franchise here)" take might be closer to the literal truth than my interpretation. I choose to blame Genghis Khan. It's all that motherfricker's fault, isn't it? A solid millennium of subhuman bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why is the flag to the left of Kazakhstan the Xbox logo?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Has population under 7 million, will probably be swallowed whole by China in couple decades.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Sülüktü >more umlauts than a German sentence has
What's with Central Asians and their umlauts?
2 years ago
Anonymous
thats called vowel harmony
2 years ago
Anonymous
EITMLI5.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Zhambyl >Kazakhstan has a city called Shamble
Prophetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thing with western alliances is that they've sort of had their moment of being held to account. They basically went through that horror of horrors of >yeah, we fricked up >we really fricked that up >it didn't end well for us
So in light of all the warts n all being hung out for everyone to see, there's a sense of some humility to temper their otherwise old timey, historical predilections, mistakes and put it behind them to start anew. Not completely of course and none of them are saints, but they've seen that progress isn't going to happen if you're just constantly living in the past, not learning anything from it and repeating a circular mistake. Russia and a lot of the former members, client states and little rump nations never really had that.
They just turned off the lights in the early 90's and went home
No one ever said sorry, you know we fricked up, how about we sort of try not to do that again. So there's been no mending, no learning, just ancient hatreds unsettled
https://i.imgur.com/t6gfTeQ.jpg
>Yeah, my hunch is closer ties to China and potentially some kind of 'stan republic joint trade type of thing.
Unlikely. Sri Lanka isn't even the earliest sign that Belt & Road doesn't work; the Chinese have flung tons of money at the Pakistanis in order to bring up their infrastructure, and not only was the money burnt away by corruption - the money was also more like a credit that the Pakistanis are now refusing to pay back, and there's little the Chinese can do because they have absolutely no ability to project any sort of power.
>There's plenty of manpower, resources and skilled labour there
Where? China? Nah. Their demographics are even worse than apocalysts had predicted, and labour costs have gone through the roof. China also has to import 85% of its energy, to say nothing of the iron, copper, and silicon that they require for their low-end semiconductor production.
And if you mean Central Asia: not really either, no. Because it's so dry the land doesn't lend itself to huge population centres other than the ones in Uzbekistan, which is also the only part of the region that receives any rain at all due to mountains. If there's skilled labour (of which I've never heard of) it's more likely to move to the west than to China.
The only thing they actually produce in any measurable quantity is Uranium.
Oh belt and road to poverty has been a wonderful success, at proving a lot of things right about China.
The next best alternative is to jump into their most culturally close nations is Iran and Turkey, Iran is sort of a fricked up shithole full of madness, which also doesn't like them much. Turkey has some potential but is plagued by the tyranny of distance. There's quite a bit in the ground up that way though, its largely been unexploited or explored recently with modern (western) assaying and processes so there's a lot of oil, gas and other stuff out there probably good to go.
I don't see anything good for china in the near future, but if they can make some money off them before it implodes it'd be worth doing. Sort of the old practice of making money during chaos
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's tiny, I thought it was just a meme.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He’s wearing lift heels in the photo too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
while also standing one step in front of the second shortest person in the photo so as to appear taller than him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Vietnam and the USA probably have better bilateral relationships, and the USA did a lot of awful shit to Vietnam
2 years ago
Anonymous
Vietnam did a bunch of awful shit to the americans too
The relationship is built on a foundation of grudgingly given mutual respect, like with the poms and the Ghurkas
2 years ago
Anonymous
Temujin did nothing wrong, don't try to pin russias bullshit on him
When looking at Russian census data, you have to remember that data collected and published outside the 60s and 90s is either inaccurate or blatantly false.
And there is only one answer: the so-called "Russians" are the homosexual people, the scum people, the rotten people, the pus people, the wienersucker people.
ITT: Actual ZOGBOTS pushing their "SLOBBER UKRAINEY" bullshit. It is a fact that these people hate Russia because Russia outlaws gay marriage and they think Putin stole the 2016 election.
>because Russia outlaws gay marriage
Given how common homosexualry is in the Russian military, you would think that they would legalize it just so that they could make their whole army into one massive sacred band of Thebes.
Don't worry, once Ukraine joins up with NATO, gays will become their political commissars and men will suck dicks and piss on each other in the streets for a whole month straight just like in Western Europe and the U.S.
>gays will become their political commissars and men will suck dicks
Why would Ukraine adopt more Russia's military practices when they are westernizing though?
>be the first country to mechanize your military completely >have the largest mechanized force on the planet >tons of equipment left over from USSR so replacing material should be easy, right? >except you never maintained any of it >and your equipment wasn't great to start with >but your doctrine was always about bypassing strongpoints with your maneuver groups and flanking to destroy your enemies through superior numbers >but you didn't bother training your force to use the equipment you had >and you don't have the numbers to do that anymore >and putting someone in direct charge of such a large force runs the risk of them deciding that they should be the ruler of the country >so you just let your units run around ukraine for over a month with no coordination or logistics support during the time frame you have operational surprise >so you instead just revert back to WWI style artillery duels along a stagnant front
brilliant, russian military genius knows no bounds
Is there any real reason for Belarussian and Russian citizens not to depose their rulers at this point? They'd get everything they could ever need by siding with the west. Jobs, wealth, investments, tech, culture and so forth. It'd completely revitalize their countries and all they really need to do is adopt non-moronic economic policies, be friendly to their neighbors and that'd be that.
Meanwhile their leaders constantly stumble like morons at the complete mercy of internet OSINT, NATO intelligence and just a few crumbs of western military tech. It's embarrassing.
With long term dictatorships like that its really very hard to get close enough to off one of them. There's just layers upon layers of nepotism, dependency, corruption and security mechanisms built into the whole architecture of the state and its leadership. So to some extent they are faced with the problem that >sticking your head up gets it cut off >no one to rule if they leave >chaos ensues, everyone starves
Now they may or may not be 100% certainty but like anything, you're staking your life on some odds of it working or doing nothing and continuing to live what is arguably a very 2nd rate existence but you're still living
Their old tool in a new coat of paint is the complete control of the media, social, traditional or otherwise has been done up and honed to just provide exactly what the state wants people to hear, see and ultimately do. Which to some extent that bubble is very hard to break out of, facing the unknown and not knowing just on a comparative level how fricked it is. Then there's still the old trick of making the proles know, that if the leader goes, the state goes and it will be absolutely fricking terrible, so its in your best interests to keep things as-is
I mean, you can complain... but at best no one listens, at worst, your entire existence gets deleted
The ability of a multi-generational police state to terrorize and psychologically manipulate its population into obeisance is a helluva thing. It's the same reason why we don't seriously ponder why the Best Koreans don't put out Krispy Kreme Jong Un. We know why. They've been brainwashed into preferring death before change that's counter to the state.
Russians just have a fetish for paranoid lunatics who treat them like shit. Just look at how much they adore Stalin; the man killed vatniks at a rate only surpassed by a certain Australian painter, and they love him for it.
>a certain Australian painter
Pro Hart was a good boy who did nothing wrong!
So a thermonuclear nuke that gets rid of the entire country. Got it.
Nah its more a case that the chance comes along, but you've got to get the knife into the whole social structure and apparatus to change things. It can be done, but its rarely done because most of the time it needs external support to do it- plus just looking at Ukraine as an example, they made the change they wanted and needed to a pro-Ukraine gov instead of pro-Rus, but at that particular time Russia just basically jumped in at a chance to make some money, do a bit of fricking around and sadly they didn't have much in the way of Western backers to prop things up and Russia got away with it.
I mean I was in Russia and Ukraine in 2014 and it was a real fur ball of emotions, bullshit and plain crazy
>Is there any real reason for Belarussian and Russian citizens not to depose their rulers at this point?
Yeah. A lot of them either fled the country, got put in gulag or just "disappeared".
Anything they want do could be done easier in a month when Russia is in a worse position. They should wait for Russia to lose as much as possible before revolting.
Speaking of, is there a good map with timelapse functionality? I've been using liveuamap, but it does not have a timelapse, and is also very annoying to use in general.
gee i don't know. maybe the purpose of special military operation is not about gaining territory or storming the cities, but about destroying ukrainian army? but then again i don't suppose people like miley have ever heard of clausewitz, seems like the handbook at pentagon these days is "dear white people"
>gee i don't know. maybe the purpose of special military operation is not about gaining territory or storming the cities, but about destroying ukrainian army? >destroying the ukranian army >by having more casualties than them
This isn't world war 2 you stupid vatBlack person. You're on the other side of lend lease and you don't have the population to swamp the yooks like you did the nazis. Let's face it, you Black folk would've lost if it wasn't for the US carrying your asses.
Listen all you vatnik shills... imagine having one of the most "powerful" militaries in the world and you can't even invade a country that is literally bordering you. The US invaded Iraq twice in less time it has taken you Black folk to even make your own McDonalds knockoff. A country across the world can project power and destroy any country in a few weeks meanwhile you gays can't even take over a small region, you own the Black Sea kek.
Here's the funny part; a huge part of Ukraine is already pro-Russian. Russia can't even defeat a nation in which a sizeable minority sympathize(d) with the invader. America had absolutely nothing in Iraq. The Kurds lent their support naturally but that was more symbolical. Imagine if Iraq had a sizeable minority that spoke English and even identified themselves as American. America would destroy Iraq without even attacking its borders.
Even this is false.
No part of the country was majorly pro-Russian, it's why they needed to import FSB goon squads, because not enough people were interested in their pro-Russian memes.
You'll probably find more pro-Mexico Texans than there were pro-Russia people in Donbass.
Crimea was majority actual Russians from Russia (due to centuries of ethnic cleansing) as well as having a military base in place. It was a forgone conclusion.
Its a bit more complicated than being 'pro-russian' as there was about 7 decades of Bolshie-shenanigans going on which saw a lot of populations of various countries moved around inside the USSR, so you tend to find people with relatives in all sorts of places in the former USSR that have some kind of ancestral history across the whole continent. They often have something in common with their neighbours and they may also have some existing family in another country nearby and that's fairly important to remember that while they might have some neutral or even slightly favourable feelings towards another country- it doesn't mean they are 'pro-russian' in so much they approve of the current government or its practices.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2022/07/20/russia-sends-pacific-island-machine-gun-artillery-division-to-ukraine/?sh=2fbd064d36b2 >The 18th MGAD’s unique organization reflects its (usually) specialized role: the defense of the Kuril islands, which Russia seized from Japan using amphibious landing ships secretly supplied by the United States in the closing days of World War II.
Interesting, its something I was wondering would happen- digging into critical defence infrastructure units. So that's the first time I've heard of some real specifics
You still haven't signed a peace treaty after ww2, right? And you have a fancy new military while theirs is shit and away, right? I think the writing is on the wall.
Rumour is the Russian infantry is so dilapidated that they're now only effective when artillery is used to pummel Ukrainian positions beforehand. With the current HIMARS situation that's not quite possible anymore.
That WAS the offensive. >Once we use and exhaust everything we have to take sewhatever city we win! >Oh nevermind the boss wants us to take the whole of donbas and will expand operations.
Even the allies it did have were forced into it like the entire Warsaw Pact. Russia have always been scum who have to arm-twist other countries into being "friends".
2 years ago
Anonymous
And China and Kazakhstan are remarkably restrained in their support for monke. Guess their current allies are chipped from the same block of wood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Kazakhstan
their president straight up told putin publically that he doesnt recognize luganda and donbabwe meme republics
2 years ago
Anonymous
Uzbek hegemony it is, then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>straight up told putin publically
Whilst visting Moscow to boot kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
>straight up
Brah, he literally told him right in front of his face while doing a fricking pimp lean in his chair.
SU and Germany were allies. The German tank training grounds were in Russia, the luftwaffe fighter pilot training grounds were in lipetsk, and both sides participated in military training with each other right up until Hitler hit the crack pipe yet again and invaded for some of 'dat lebensraum. The idea that Russia and Germany were only "allies of convenience" is a post cold-war myth invented by assmad Europeans.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>*Literally* only Vatniks would *ever* think that Germany and the Soviet Union were allies.
>What went wrong?
Lenin was allowed to live
But Lenin was hardcore fast. 10 miles in 3 month is pure imperial Russia sovl.
>Aral Sea still present
Wonder what it feels like knowing that your agricultural policy in the 1960s has welded the Central Asian states to Uzbekistan. That's where Europe's Uranium is going to be coming from.
Thread over. Everyone go home.
The Bolshevik’s were actually successful though
But John Lennon got shot
He was never gonna make it
First post best post.
Correct.
why does this homosexual still have a job?
look at all those medals man, he must be doing something good
Yeah sucking chinas wiener while being a traitor
Delusional
>5 positive points were just added to your social credit score
dude i have more medals than my lt colonel brigade commander in my 3 years of serving. thats how i know it was time to leave
t. welcome for my serval.
Because he's better than you and your orange daddy
>We did it reddit
nice try with your beer putsch its going fine trust the plan
how did these type of posters make it to PrepHole anyway
you are so clearly not from here i want to solve this mystery
Why do you think PrepHole is allowed to stay up? You don't think that's weird? That in this woke age, THIS place is somehow allowed to exist? It's because PrepHole has been totally repurposed for shilling narratives and inflicting psychological damage on the people who visit the site. PrepHole is almost all
>People who obviously hate Russia because of 2016 election narratives
>literal CIA talking points on how invincible Ukraine is
>moronic covid vaccine conspiracy shit
>BBC porn
>X group of white people isn't actually white
>"third worldist," "duginist," bullshit
>seed oils
Some boards are still good, but most are totally fricked now. That's what happens after 6 plus years of nonstop shilling and psyops.
Take your meds
>X group of white people isn't actually white
Only continental Germanic people are white though.
>slavs aren't white
>balts aren't white
>anglo mutts aren't white
>celts aren't white
>baltics aren't white
>meds aren't white
>only the people who never invented anything and destroyed europe more than once are white
ftfy
>t. seething vatBlack person
What makes a reason real for you?
The russians have a reputation for political apathy and numbing themselves with alcohol and drugs from their existence.
Add the tendency of the security apparatus to violent repression and I'd argue most aren't motivated to risk change. Especially with s history of constant oppression with revolutions only enacting a new oppressive regime.
Holy shit its true then! White people actually have no culture!
logged in just to tell you to take your meds
>wall of text
yeah dude youve been here a long time
>t.
Unless you have a bigger lifted truck I fail to see what's wrong here
don't forget your hitch bro
Personally I have a lifted truck for cruising and a van for transporting and towing stuff, also means I can work on one and use the other at the same time
>Magatard outs himself as a complete twat who drives a homosexual lifted truck for "cruising"
Why am I not surprised?
How much of an urbanized homosexual would you have to be to have a problem with someone driving their own vehicle for fun?
>"cruising"
youre either too poor to afford a car or some feminine homosexual who's dad was too disappointed to teach them to drive
Lmao I have a hitch like that for the landie (though not quite as excessive)
I hooked a flat trailer up it using a normal hitch once for shots and gigs and it turned into a bike ramp
>I fail to see what's wrong here
Much like a dung beetle would fail to see anything wrong with a gigantic mount of shit. To each their own.
Trump lost the election.
>Bernbroid homosexual posts chad
>seethes when other don't see anything wrong with the pic
Try not to get shot by a kid you were trying to molest during another corporate sponsored riot, you little revolutionary
Go back homosexual war tourist
t. war tourist from /misc/
>firing
he is untouchable
Russia lured in and crushed Ukraine's best units
Now the door is open and Ukraine will fall
>Organic
doing my part
Milley is a giant homosexual though, thankfully the Russians are even more incompetent
>look in the archive
>jannies deleted the single best post in the thread
what did they mean by this
Russia will raise its eyebrow and cauldrons will come off.
Its amazing how after half a year of humilation and defeats russians can still unironically made shit like this up.
two more weeks till gloves will close and couldrons will come off, am I right ivan?
>Eyebrows=Closed
>Cauldron=Off
>Gloves=Risen
>Weeks=Two
All off are bets now.
I'm doing my part
>source: my Dunjevača-drenched arsehole
The dildo is lubed and the sphincter is closing.
Based.
HIFRENS
I expect you to cope even when the war is over regardless of its outcomes. you are to never stop posting, homosexual
>j-just two more weeks
The anus is gaping
Johnathon Freedomburger from iowa oblast of US america here and I am much obliged for this thoughtful posting pulling back curtains from big media troony oppression of Russia's antyNazi effort!
greetings Jonothan reminded to visit indian slapper C for red hot info the western tried to barry "replace with telegram link"
this
You don't demilitarize by chasing the enemy. You make them come to you.
Are the Serbians in the room with you right now?
They're locked in here with me
do you see the sign in front of my house that says "dead serbian storage"?
misquote, cringe
Oh no, not the russians and serbs!
Based
Milly will let puntin know if we are about to launch nukes
6-10 more miles than you have americanski
Didn't think I'd be saying this but Milley is (sorta, he's a few miles off) right.
If you count other changes in the front, Kherson, Izium, Svitlodarsk, etc, the net Russian gain probably is something like 5-10 miles tbqh.
Unironic answer? Tied up in a city for a third of it, the Pontoon bridge incident(s) preventing a true pincer, a third was/is open fields where any movement would instantly be seen and stalled, and now logistically strained due to western PGMs.
That one incident may have legitimately prevented an actual "cauldron." I hope whatever guy spotted the artillery gets a medal.
>and now logistically strained due to western PGMs.
Just wait until autumn when the road turns to mud, then we'll see a real logistical challenge. Long lines and poor roads will make current tactics for Russia difficult to say the least.
>Moshe Schwartz
>reporter
>@YWN(BAW)Reporter
>what went wrong
Everything. They went in with false expectations about ukrainian combat capability and local support for russia. No consideration for such widespread NATO support, troops on the ground weren't prepared for action, corruption in logistics selling equipment, bad training and unit cohesion etc. etc.
Pls stop, I can't reply enough without spamming
>source is unbiased and totally 100% the most reliable source of info on their enemy and would never mislead
Anon, please call your handler and ask for help
Milley is a communist asset so I'd believe him if he's talking about his comrades in China and Russia.
I wonder who will get 54488888
It was a waste:
“Wasted” gets are based.
Do we really need gay prophet-larping get-hunters ruining the natural flow of digits?
see
and
my response
well, at least I didn't waste my get
oh, hey, ive seen these posted before. i spend too much time on PrepHolek
WW1 boys laugh at these losers.
>What went wrong?
Everything.
>What went wrong?
Their first mistake was to be born as a Russian...
The whole Sievierodonestk battle was basically to secure less than 1% of Ukrainian territory, quite literally World War 1 shit, likely with similar casualties.
That's sort of the funny thing you see with the vatniks, there's dozens of assaults that went in there for fricking months on end and for every assault that is repulsed- you're talking about casualties. Normal humans will be combat ineffective or reduced drastically by about 20% being in bags or out of action, orcs are also ineffective at 20% but they make them stick around until they take 40-50% (or higher) casualties because its basically funny and they have shit command-control over their troops.
Guess the nice thing about advancing after arty barrages into the failed assault zones is that they'd chum up the remains of the last 8 attacks that went in and didn't come out, so you know, don't have to look at your dead buds from another company or at least if its just meat bits then convince yourself its not your mates getting fricking smashed into food for the crows.
If I'm honest, I wasn't a fan of the Ukrainian idea of attrition warfare in a defence situation when I noticed it happening. Mostly because its something as a (former) military guy you don't ever really want to find yourself in or have to deal with the constant pressure of defence in depth having to be on its toes to deal with probing attacks and assaults. But in this instance its working really nasty.
>Ukraine loses territory, gains time and save casualties
>Russia uses artillery, armour and casualties to gain territory
That constant grist-mill of turnover of units, being rendered ineffective and finding more meat, metal and shells to keep shoving in there, knowing at some point you might get low of one of those three and find yourself being pushed back, losing all that territory in moments that took weeks to carve out of enemy hands.
Time is the biggest killer, the longer your in the firing line, there's just an inevitability you get hit and that's just the units your running, not factoring in some fricking idiot managing to bungle something else that leaves you wide open
loses territory, gains time and save casualties
uses artillery, armour and casualties to gain territory
That what I've been thinking for sometime now.
But /k/ is also sometimes just like /misc/
>huuuurr, look at that.
>huuuurr, look at this
With HIMAR now and later if it's proven to be successful, the A10.
This will be the end of Russia in this war, they will lose Crimea and all their gains.
And other Russian cities around Ukraine is going to get flatten, demilitarize by the Ukraine or use as leverage for POW transfers
If Russia has two obvious failings in this war its
>C2 (command and control)
>Logistics
The nasty thing about attrition warfare is that it catches up with you when you're on the offensive, you need to take breaks to replenish ammo, gear and reconstitute units with their replacements, then factor in a lot of their top-order officers tend to meet messy ends in some kind of death from above incident which really throws out an invasion forces tempo. But the critical thing is you want the defensive force running counter to your operational tempo so they're always on the back foot having to throw some kind of counter in here, there and not enough chance to take a break and optimise a counter attack.
So when you do have to take a break from offensive actions its a huge risk, you can't maintain that tempo of conflict then they'll just creep up all the time and with HIMARS and other strikes deep into the held territory which is killing off radar, comms systems, C2 ops areas and munitions- that's a bad place to be. If your guys and armour are only able to take ground by dying, using big tonnage of artillery throw weights and breaking their tanks on defence in depth. Well, we know how that turns out, Rommel found that out the hard way trying to make the ANZAC forces in north Africa 'go away' and failed dismally once his supply lines are decimated by the forces out of Malta and his forces were ground into attrition.
I think they're going to be in big trouble sooner or later, the cracks have been there from the start and while they can fill them with raw meat, armour and ammo it will only go so far as the original problem for its cause for it being broken hasn't been addressed yet.
If two countries are fighting on a grassy plain then you will end up with either super fast warfare or ww1 style slogs. no in-between
Digits for more dead vathomosexuals by way of Saint HIMARS.
Objectively false m8
picrel ain't much, but it's more than 10 miles, all taken in May-June.
It's possible he's referring to "square miles" which is moronic but common among Yanks
Lost territory in other places. Maybe it is net 10 miles.
Guess Ukraine is dead, then.
Oh wait.
Stall tactics, obviously. They're more interested in annexing territory to proclaim self-defense for the excuse of war crimes, but mostly production.
>shitter screencap coping about Amerimutt terrorists losing 30km of occupied territory just last month
>Amerimutts genetically unable to read maps will unironically believe this
>year 13, day 165
>/k/opers seething about 5th russian recapture of donetsk
>russian victory close at hand, western media trying to berry this
>defence minister Strelkov says Putin remains in very good health, amazes his doctors daily
>NATO is gay and like showing homosexualy flags!!
lel your army is so shit you would lose to a gay army
literally nothing wrong with gays and gays
It’s quality not quantity
Dubs count double, trips count triple
Rollin'
Russia is winning
Heh. According to this map, Ukraine is about to take Mariupol, cutting off the Crimean land bridge; and Ukraine is taking Bilovods'k, potentially threatening Luhansk and Donetsk soon.
Once the Armatas attack this will all turn out around for Russia
Kek. morons don't realize the maps and times are reversed. Good bait
Why push them when they have zeroed all their poitions and are destroying them
Will Russia's military collapse in Ukraine without proper logistics?
What do you think the retreat from Kyiv was?
special crawling operation
So the mountain above your village is moving just 10 miles per 3 months. Nothing to worry about, you can stop it, right?
Depends, is my village 700 miles long?
>tfw your blyatzkrieg is moving slower than the continents
make it 5000 dead vatBlack folk,
100 dead Serbs,
2000 russian women, elderly and children
and 100 poltard during /misc/ gathering
/k/: Miley is a lying homosexual troony lover that is pozzing the military
Also /k/: OMG new Miley propaganda just dropped! We love what he loves! We hate what he hates!
/pol/tards and neverserveds have been getting btfo over Milley for years, this is just the trend continuing with vatniks thrown in
seriously, i can go thorough the archives and find the exact opposite reality you are trying to gaslight with
but why? and how? how did your type of poster even get this far into the internet?
>seriously, i can go thorough the archives
Way ahead of you, revisionist nerverserved little pussy. Observe you and your buddies getting rekt:
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/53949609
literally nothing wrong with homosexuals and troonys
Cope
like most of this website /k/ is populated with emotionally immature autists, they cant cope with the fact that russia will simply throw men at the war until the east is under their control and it wont hurt moscow one bit because the west cucked out on green energy and china a long time ago.
so they cling to anything they see as a victory even if its moronic
>russia will simply throw men at the war until the east is under their control and it wont hurt moscow one bit because the west cucked out on green energy and china a long time ago
you'll see, and once the east is russian the west of ukraine will just become more cucked and more americanized and more communist till its no different than California.
your insane fantasy of these nazi heroes fighting for a dancing israelite and Joe Biden is fricking laughable
>russia will simply throw men at the war
You mean the made-up ones? The kind of men that didn't exist until they literally appeared as +20 year-olds in their censuses? The ones that have a 25% of either suffering from crippling Krokodil addiction, alcoholism, Tuberculosis, or HIV (each a separate roll, by the way)?
Me be shacking in me boots!
I wonder why russia has shifted to just demolishing the ukraine lol.
>Me be shacking in me boots!
you should be, idk what country your in but chances are its gonna become a communist shithole full of Black folk within 5 years
>I wonder why russia has shifted to just demolishing the ukraine
Because their borders are terrible, with no natural barriers, and not enough population centres to generate any kind of protection. That makes them paranoid.
>also go leave, you're clearly way too focused on Black folk
>focuses on random slavic shitholes rather than his own country
okay moron
>too dumb to understand geopolitics
>calls others morons
you have leaders who hate you and want you dead and you think they will fight for your best interests half a world away? really moron?
Who am I in your head?
anyone west of Poland
>half the fricking world
that really narrows it down moron
yeah its almost like the israelites and commies have already thoroughly infiltrated nearly every western government
>anyone not sucking the monke's wiener is a globohomosexual commie israelite
We weren't the ones reminiscing about the good ol' soviet days and bring mudslime chechen Black folk to murder and rape white people.
Gulaghomosexual is just like globohomosexual but with more aids.
I never once defended russia I just said they are most likely going to retake the west. overly emotional morons like you who wanna cry and scream because all of a sudden you have been told to care are whats ruined the west
>I never once defended russia I just said they are most likely going to retake the west
Nah. Ever since the Convoy to Kyiv NATO knows that they would absolutely obliterate Russia in a conventional war. At first they were all really excited until they realised that Russia had nothing to lose once they were done with Ukraine and were facing down NATO.
And once NATO wins there's two routes the Russians can go:
1: Accept a humiliating surrender and restoration of the borders from 2014.
2: Escalate to nukes.
Your guess is as good as mine which route the Russians would take, but it's NATO's position that they would absolutely escalate to nukes unless they couldn't even start a conventional war against Poland. Which is why Ukraine is being kept alive: every player knows that the Russian army must die in Ukraine for this to not escalate into a nuclear war.
>1: Accept a humiliating surrender and restoration of the borders from 2014.
>2: Escalate to nukes.
I would expect an escalation to chemical weapons first. Spread VX on UKR frontlines. Then move 50km forward once the cleanup is done. Repeat. It would not be as politically loaded as using nukes and is easier to use at a tactical level to boot.
>It would not be as politically loaded as using nukes
And would still trigger an adequate response from HATO.
>captcha: RPG x 2
They already tried thermite and phosphorous rounds in Azovstal, the line gets blurry after that. Considering the absolute state, they probably can't even produce nerve agents and other assorted shit.
Russia’s only problem with Globohomosexual is that it doesn’t give them the pimp hand over the world.
Looks like Brandon Gutierrez here knows what’s really going on in America!
Naturally because Russians see any weak neighbor and think rape, they believe every other nation is the same. Hence why instead of developing into a cooperative first world nation, they decide to act like apes. Projection and Paranoia is the national wienertail of Russia.
>muh natural barriers
is schizo dugin nonsense.
Doesn't matter. It's what the Russians believe, courtesy of being invaded some fifty-odd times in their history.
>russians believe
>because muh history
more like schizo agitprop by a conman. only a nation that eagerly ate up as much doublethink as marxism could willingly do so again with duginism
Okay, moron.
not an argument, nice try vatnig
Okay, moron.
L
All of this applies to the majority of European countries. Nobody gives a shit, Russians are just savages that will cling to any excuse to further their fruitless imperialist dreams.
>All of this applies to the majority of European countries.
Have you already forgotten what you've never learnt in your history classes? European history is fricking bloody. Of *course* it applies to European countries as well; that's why they were constantly fighting to begin with, and it took an external security guarantor (the US) for the fighting to stop.
Natural borders is such a meme, if you exclude the Baltic countries and Poland, they could achieve this without going to war with NATIO.. but NO, apparently some river in Poland dictates that Russia has to enter a war with NATO to manifest slavic-destiny.
Also lol at Kazakhstan, why would natural borders not apply to them? they are drifting away from Russian influence like Ukraine did 10 years ago, if they annexed Kazakhstan their southern border would be a lot smaller and would include natural barriers i.e. mountains.
>Also lol at Kazakhstan, why would natural borders not apply to them?
Who says it doesn't? But right now Kazakhstan isn't drifting away so much that the Russians would intervene - there's the war in Ukraine going on that's binding their troops; there's NATO expansion in Finland going on that's binding their troops; and Kazakhstan wasn't actually supposed to become independent even by Kazakh standards. Nursultan Nazarbayev (the guy who basically owns Kazakhstan) was already around during USSR times and was *against* Kazakh independence because he - probably rightfully - thought that Kazakhstan wouldn't survive without Russian resources (Central Asia is really fricking dry).
How things will stand in 10 years we'll know in 10 years.
Its just central asia, whats the worst that could happen?
Drought due to the Aral Sea being gone, and a subsequent upheaval in Uzbekistan (because that's essentially the only population centre of note in that region). The Uzbeks are different from the Turkmens or the Kazakhs in that they want to wean off the -Stans from Russian influence (and instead establish their own power base inbetween Iran and Russia). How that's going to play out I don't know, but they certainly got the population down.
Yeah, my hunch is closer ties to China and potentially some kind of 'stan republic joint trade type of thing. There's plenty of manpower, resources and skilled labour there, plus they did get a decent lump of Russia's 'nope frick this' population that left instead of riding the Putin Express to the bitter end and being drafted.
The sticking point is that China is a right c**t to deal with, but its sort of the lesser or two evils there in some ways
>Yeah, my hunch is closer ties to China and potentially some kind of 'stan republic joint trade type of thing.
Unlikely. Sri Lanka isn't even the earliest sign that Belt & Road doesn't work; the Chinese have flung tons of money at the Pakistanis in order to bring up their infrastructure, and not only was the money burnt away by corruption - the money was also more like a credit that the Pakistanis are now refusing to pay back, and there's little the Chinese can do because they have absolutely no ability to project any sort of power.
>There's plenty of manpower, resources and skilled labour there
Where? China? Nah. Their demographics are even worse than apocalysts had predicted, and labour costs have gone through the roof. China also has to import 85% of its energy, to say nothing of the iron, copper, and silicon that they require for their low-end semiconductor production.
And if you mean Central Asia: not really either, no. Because it's so dry the land doesn't lend itself to huge population centres other than the ones in Uzbekistan, which is also the only part of the region that receives any rain at all due to mountains. If there's skilled labour (of which I've never heard of) it's more likely to move to the west than to China.
The only thing they actually produce in any measurable quantity is Uranium.
Kazakhstan is a big country
but there's only two big guys in the whole country
Russia had sent troops to Kazakstan to prop up the regime last year. Unfortunately for Russia, they left a very poor impression, but Russia has been doing what they can to keep Kazakhstan in their sphere of influence. I suspect that if Russia’s army wasn’t busy, we’d be seeing military intervention there, but nothing happens in a vacuum.
Honestly this whole debacle is causing me to slowly grasp that "alliances" are nonexistent in the old Soviet bloc, in a way that's not immediately apparent to Westerners. For all the bickering and historical bloodshed, there's still something more concrete that exists between the US, UK, France, Germany, Japan, etc. than there is between Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, etc. "US puppet" isn't even really true because while the US is bigger than any of its allies, it's actually NOT bigger than all of its allies combined - America consists of barely a third of the manpower or money in the "American sphere"
I was confused by Luka's constant loud sycophancy towards Russia backed up by absolutely zero actual material support for Russia, I was confused by Kazakhstan being propped up by Russia and responding by essentially fricking them over on their Ukraine invasion anyway, I was even confused the other day by Putin and Erdogan embracing as Turkish weapons continue their unbroken decade of butchering Russian troops and clients.
The crazy thing is, in my own naivete, I had ascribed something higher or more noble to these people, even as adversaries. When in fact the homosexual Reddit "they're literally monsters from (insert shitty scifi/fantasy franchise here)" take might be closer to the literal truth than my interpretation. I choose to blame Genghis Khan. It's all that motherfricker's fault, isn't it? A solid millennium of subhuman bullshit.
Why is the flag to the left of Kazakhstan the Xbox logo?
Has population under 7 million, will probably be swallowed whole by China in couple decades.
>Sülüktü
>more umlauts than a German sentence has
What's with Central Asians and their umlauts?
thats called vowel harmony
EITMLI5.
>Zhambyl
>Kazakhstan has a city called Shamble
Prophetic.
Thing with western alliances is that they've sort of had their moment of being held to account. They basically went through that horror of horrors of
>yeah, we fricked up
>we really fricked that up
>it didn't end well for us
So in light of all the warts n all being hung out for everyone to see, there's a sense of some humility to temper their otherwise old timey, historical predilections, mistakes and put it behind them to start anew. Not completely of course and none of them are saints, but they've seen that progress isn't going to happen if you're just constantly living in the past, not learning anything from it and repeating a circular mistake. Russia and a lot of the former members, client states and little rump nations never really had that.
They just turned off the lights in the early 90's and went home
No one ever said sorry, you know we fricked up, how about we sort of try not to do that again. So there's been no mending, no learning, just ancient hatreds unsettled
Oh belt and road to poverty has been a wonderful success, at proving a lot of things right about China.
The next best alternative is to jump into their most culturally close nations is Iran and Turkey, Iran is sort of a fricked up shithole full of madness, which also doesn't like them much. Turkey has some potential but is plagued by the tyranny of distance. There's quite a bit in the ground up that way though, its largely been unexploited or explored recently with modern (western) assaying and processes so there's a lot of oil, gas and other stuff out there probably good to go.
I don't see anything good for china in the near future, but if they can make some money off them before it implodes it'd be worth doing. Sort of the old practice of making money during chaos
He's tiny, I thought it was just a meme.
He’s wearing lift heels in the photo too.
while also standing one step in front of the second shortest person in the photo so as to appear taller than him.
Vietnam and the USA probably have better bilateral relationships, and the USA did a lot of awful shit to Vietnam
Vietnam did a bunch of awful shit to the americans too
The relationship is built on a foundation of grudgingly given mutual respect, like with the poms and the Ghurkas
Temujin did nothing wrong, don't try to pin russias bullshit on him
When looking at Russian census data, you have to remember that data collected and published outside the 60s and 90s is either inaccurate or blatantly false.
My point exactly. It's likely even worse.
And there is only one answer: the so-called "Russians" are the homosexual people, the scum people, the rotten people, the pus people, the wienersucker people.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
more please
>best picture of the whole fricking war.
He died doing what he loved: killing civilians
Hmm... wonder if she's seeing anyone
The more pertinent question
>when will Aliexpress have Russian War Widow warehouse sales?
>AIDS free
>no refunds!
I'd like to give her 10 miles in 3 months, if you Rorke my Drift
>150 thousand casualties
Wut?
Includes wounded and malingerers injuring themselves to escape duty
Add some for me.
>I hope your widow brings her boyfriend to your funeral
ITT: Actual ZOGBOTS pushing their "SLOBBER UKRAINEY" bullshit. It is a fact that these people hate Russia because Russia outlaws gay marriage and they think Putin stole the 2016 election.
>because Russia outlaws gay marriage
Given how common homosexualry is in the Russian military, you would think that they would legalize it just so that they could make their whole army into one massive sacred band of Thebes.
Don't worry, once Ukraine joins up with NATO, gays will become their political commissars and men will suck dicks and piss on each other in the streets for a whole month straight just like in Western Europe and the U.S.
>gays will become their political commissars and men will suck dicks
Why would Ukraine adopt more Russia's military practices when they are westernizing though?
Stop projecting vatnig.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/02/indoor-plumbing-still-a-pipe-dream-for-20-of-russian-households-reports-say-a65049
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/gqdx44/full-v13n4
based
It was all a feint, those 6 miles were the original goal.
>"six to ten miles"
That's six to ten miles across, but how far along the country?
sheer incompetence at an operational and strategic level.
Remember, Russia didn't even have a theater commander until day 45.
I don't care if this post got deleted I'm replying to it anyway
What's the price of a mile?
>8 years later
>still dont control entire country
what went wrong? let me guess you don't "need" donetsk or luhansk or the crimea, right?
That goes both ways, pidorashka. What's taking you so long? Also how's the moskva doing?
>be the first country to mechanize your military completely
>have the largest mechanized force on the planet
>tons of equipment left over from USSR so replacing material should be easy, right?
>except you never maintained any of it
>and your equipment wasn't great to start with
>but your doctrine was always about bypassing strongpoints with your maneuver groups and flanking to destroy your enemies through superior numbers
>but you didn't bother training your force to use the equipment you had
>and you don't have the numbers to do that anymore
>and putting someone in direct charge of such a large force runs the risk of them deciding that they should be the ruler of the country
>so you just let your units run around ukraine for over a month with no coordination or logistics support during the time frame you have operational surprise
>so you instead just revert back to WWI style artillery duels along a stagnant front
brilliant, russian military genius knows no bounds
Is there any real reason for Belarussian and Russian citizens not to depose their rulers at this point? They'd get everything they could ever need by siding with the west. Jobs, wealth, investments, tech, culture and so forth. It'd completely revitalize their countries and all they really need to do is adopt non-moronic economic policies, be friendly to their neighbors and that'd be that.
Meanwhile their leaders constantly stumble like morons at the complete mercy of internet OSINT, NATO intelligence and just a few crumbs of western military tech. It's embarrassing.
With long term dictatorships like that its really very hard to get close enough to off one of them. There's just layers upon layers of nepotism, dependency, corruption and security mechanisms built into the whole architecture of the state and its leadership. So to some extent they are faced with the problem that
>sticking your head up gets it cut off
>no one to rule if they leave
>chaos ensues, everyone starves
Now they may or may not be 100% certainty but like anything, you're staking your life on some odds of it working or doing nothing and continuing to live what is arguably a very 2nd rate existence but you're still living
Their old tool in a new coat of paint is the complete control of the media, social, traditional or otherwise has been done up and honed to just provide exactly what the state wants people to hear, see and ultimately do. Which to some extent that bubble is very hard to break out of, facing the unknown and not knowing just on a comparative level how fricked it is. Then there's still the old trick of making the proles know, that if the leader goes, the state goes and it will be absolutely fricking terrible, so its in your best interests to keep things as-is
I mean, you can complain... but at best no one listens, at worst, your entire existence gets deleted
So a thermonuclear nuke that gets rid of the entire country. Got it.
The ability of a multi-generational police state to terrorize and psychologically manipulate its population into obeisance is a helluva thing. It's the same reason why we don't seriously ponder why the Best Koreans don't put out Krispy Kreme Jong Un. We know why. They've been brainwashed into preferring death before change that's counter to the state.
Russians just have a fetish for paranoid lunatics who treat them like shit. Just look at how much they adore Stalin; the man killed vatniks at a rate only surpassed by a certain Australian painter, and they love him for it.
>a certain Australian painter
Pro Hart was a good boy who did nothing wrong!
Nah its more a case that the chance comes along, but you've got to get the knife into the whole social structure and apparatus to change things. It can be done, but its rarely done because most of the time it needs external support to do it- plus just looking at Ukraine as an example, they made the change they wanted and needed to a pro-Ukraine gov instead of pro-Rus, but at that particular time Russia just basically jumped in at a chance to make some money, do a bit of fricking around and sadly they didn't have much in the way of Western backers to prop things up and Russia got away with it.
I mean I was in Russia and Ukraine in 2014 and it was a real fur ball of emotions, bullshit and plain crazy
>Pro Hart was a good boy who did nothing wrong!
OH MR HART! What a mess!
>mentally wanders off to comfy tv commercial
Lenin was a German Joke, it was meant to be funny except Russia didn't get the joke and thought it was a viable alternative political process
wanders off to comfy tv commercial
It was a simpler time
>the man killed vatniks at a rate only surpassed by a certain Australian painter,
???
>Australian painter
Impossible, painting is a cultural activity
>NOOOOO WECTERNER DO NOT UNDERSTAND RUSSIA NEEEDS TO TERRORIZE ITS NEIGHBORS
>why? because it just is so! trust the plan Z!
>Is there any real reason for Belarussian and Russian citizens not to depose their rulers at this point?
Yeah. A lot of them either fled the country, got put in gulag or just "disappeared".
Anything they want do could be done easier in a month when Russia is in a worse position. They should wait for Russia to lose as much as possible before revolting.
Speaking of, is there a good map with timelapse functionality? I've been using liveuamap, but it does not have a timelapse, and is also very annoying to use in general.
gee i don't know. maybe the purpose of special military operation is not about gaining territory or storming the cities, but about destroying ukrainian army? but then again i don't suppose people like miley have ever heard of clausewitz, seems like the handbook at pentagon these days is "dear white people"
>maybe the purpose of special military operation is not about gaining territory or storming the cities
That's why they spearheaded for Kyiv, right?
>gee i don't know. maybe the purpose of special military operation is not about gaining territory or storming the cities, but about destroying ukrainian army?
>destroying the ukranian army
>by having more casualties than them
This isn't world war 2 you stupid vatBlack person. You're on the other side of lend lease and you don't have the population to swamp the yooks like you did the nazis. Let's face it, you Black folk would've lost if it wasn't for the US carrying your asses.
thats not something to be proud of
>telling the truth means you're proud of it
>but about destroying ukrainian army
Why would they bother attacking Chernihiv where no army was present in that case?
Kek
>2500 dead vatnicks+ 50 dead Serbs
You can kill the post, but not the idea
Listen all you vatnik shills... imagine having one of the most "powerful" militaries in the world and you can't even invade a country that is literally bordering you. The US invaded Iraq twice in less time it has taken you Black folk to even make your own McDonalds knockoff. A country across the world can project power and destroy any country in a few weeks meanwhile you gays can't even take over a small region, you own the Black Sea kek.
Here's the funny part; a huge part of Ukraine is already pro-Russian. Russia can't even defeat a nation in which a sizeable minority sympathize(d) with the invader. America had absolutely nothing in Iraq. The Kurds lent their support naturally but that was more symbolical. Imagine if Iraq had a sizeable minority that spoke English and even identified themselves as American. America would destroy Iraq without even attacking its borders.
>Here's the funny part; a huge part of Ukraine is already pro-Russian.
This is no longer true.
> a huge part of Ukraine was already pro-Russian
ftfy
Even this is false.
No part of the country was majorly pro-Russian, it's why they needed to import FSB goon squads, because not enough people were interested in their pro-Russian memes.
You'll probably find more pro-Mexico Texans than there were pro-Russia people in Donbass.
What about Crimea?
Crimea was majority actual Russians from Russia (due to centuries of ethnic cleansing) as well as having a military base in place. It was a forgone conclusion.
Its a bit more complicated than being 'pro-russian' as there was about 7 decades of Bolshie-shenanigans going on which saw a lot of populations of various countries moved around inside the USSR, so you tend to find people with relatives in all sorts of places in the former USSR that have some kind of ancestral history across the whole continent. They often have something in common with their neighbours and they may also have some existing family in another country nearby and that's fairly important to remember that while they might have some neutral or even slightly favourable feelings towards another country- it doesn't mean they are 'pro-russian' in so much they approve of the current government or its practices.
He meant 6 to 9 miles but he wasn't allowed to say it.
Idgaf if the post is gone.
-2,500 Russians, -50 Serbs
gib kurils ruschists.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2022/07/20/russia-sends-pacific-island-machine-gun-artillery-division-to-ukraine/?sh=2fbd064d36b2
>The 18th MGAD’s unique organization reflects its (usually) specialized role: the defense of the Kuril islands, which Russia seized from Japan using amphibious landing ships secretly supplied by the United States in the closing days of World War II.
Now's your chance JPbro
Interesting, its something I was wondering would happen- digging into critical defence infrastructure units. So that's the first time I've heard of some real specifics
You still haven't signed a peace treaty after ww2, right? And you have a fancy new military while theirs is shit and away, right? I think the writing is on the wall.
Not only that, but they actually sent Kuril garrison troops into Ukraine
Where is the big Russian offensive gonna be?
They've been shelling the front and preparing for weeks, when it hits it's gonna be massive.
Rumour is the Russian infantry is so dilapidated that they're now only effective when artillery is used to pummel Ukrainian positions beforehand. With the current HIMARS situation that's not quite possible anymore.
That WAS the offensive.
>Once we use and exhaust everything we have to take sewhatever city we win!
>Oh nevermind the boss wants us to take the whole of donbas and will expand operations.
>That WAS the offensive.
Russia has been bedevilled by black magic, space marines and noslav virus
Trying best!
>big monke is telling us to go die
>guess we'll go die, then
Hitler was right about the Russians.
Why did Hitler shittalk his allies so much?
*Literally* only Vatniks would *ever* think that Germany and the Soviet Union were allies.
Even the allies it did have were forced into it like the entire Warsaw Pact. Russia have always been scum who have to arm-twist other countries into being "friends".
And China and Kazakhstan are remarkably restrained in their support for monke. Guess their current allies are chipped from the same block of wood.
>Kazakhstan
their president straight up told putin publically that he doesnt recognize luganda and donbabwe meme republics
Uzbek hegemony it is, then.
>straight up told putin publically
Whilst visting Moscow to boot kek
>straight up
Brah, he literally told him right in front of his face while doing a fricking pimp lean in his chair.
I hate women so much its unreal
>Literally* only Vatniks would *ever* think that Germany and the Soviet Union were allies.
They were allies, cope. They just had a bad case of leftist infighting.
>They were allies
Only in fiction. Which, y'know, is fiction.
In reality. Shared combat (againt Poles), shared informations and POWs, shared victory parade (Brześć).
SU and Germany were allies. The German tank training grounds were in Russia, the luftwaffe fighter pilot training grounds were in lipetsk, and both sides participated in military training with each other right up until Hitler hit the crack pipe yet again and invaded for some of 'dat lebensraum. The idea that Russia and Germany were only "allies of convenience" is a post cold-war myth invented by assmad Europeans.
>*Literally* only Vatniks would *ever* think that Germany and the Soviet Union were allies.
>What went wrong?
If you believe one single word that comes out of that fricking fat traitor's head, do me a favor:
Get vaxxed and boosted.
>>0 miles in 20 years
>2 trillion dollars
>What went wrong?
bump